Inside Graceland-1977

[presley31]

I don't really like the red IMO,l like the colors now much better.

[jak]

I think the color scheme now is 100 times nicer than the red.However going back to the red would spark some curiousity and maybe draw some more visitors.I wouldnt mind taking the tour and seeing what it looked like.
Jak

[EDOEP]

Yes she did, that fee was for her selling some of her Presley stuff and for the use of the name "Presley" though how the latter was accomplished I'd love to know since she divorced him and in divorce decree states that she could not use the name for business ventures?
Lisa herself alluded to the fact that Pris wanted to sell EPE for quite a number of years...

since sillerman is no fool he knew of course that she had no more rights in the name presley anyway since her divorce. insofar it is highly ridiculous that she received the money as 'compensation' for 'giving it up'.

what again did elvis sing? 'how can you lose what you never had' .

it was a lubricant for a smooth deal, not more and not less. in other words: bribery so she won't interfere in an unwanted way and continued playing the host for official events. no fan wants to see sillerman acting as host for the elvis-week or welcoming foreign prime ministers.

"Here then are the terms of the deal between Sillerman and Lisa Presley: CKX paid $114 million for an 85% interest in Elvis Presley Enterprises; Lisa retains the other 15%. Lisa received $50 million in cash, plus $26 million in CKX common and preferred stock. Another $25 million from CKX went to pay off EPE debt. And $6.5 million went to Priscilla Presley for use of the family name--even though Sillerman wasn't legally obligated to pay her anything, since Priscilla and Elvis were divorced, and Elvis's estate went to Lisa Marie. The payment will no doubt make it easier for Sillerman to call Priscilla up and ask her to come to a ribbon cutting of a new Elvis property, for instance.

source: 'the man who bought elvis' - CNN money dt. 12-10-2005

reg. the 'red decor' ..... i DO doubt that miss prissy will change her mind about the white-blue vs red-white, and she's involved in the redecoration, see below the excerpt from NYT report dt. 03-05-06 called 'all shook up'.

"While mapping out the renovations, Mr. Sillerman has been courting Graceland's guardians, including its second-most-famous former resident, Priscilla. When her daughter, Lisa Marie, struck the deal with CKX, Mrs. Presley gave up any commercial rights to Graceland and the Presley name and received $6.5 million in return. She is involved with plans for the renovations, though she has no financial stake in the project."

This was reported (the monetary compensation) by quite a few outlets...also she has a deal w/Sillerman's company to remain on the board and EPE for 6 yrs. I wonder what happens at the end of those 6 yrs? We have what 3 yrs. to go to find out? lol
OH she def made sure that her handiwork would not be touched and that history would be somewhat distorted.

100% agree. in order to keep her shut out from redecoration he probably would have needed to another couple of million $$ .

hugs, ellie

[Lonniebealestreet]

There likely is some truth to the fact that people would generally be less attracted to the red color scheme. However we are not talking about what looks best -- let's try this, maybe that -- but about preservation of history.

I am not outright opposed to the idea that Priscilla changed it, nor do I think the house has to look like it did when Elvis died. Consider that we have the parents' bedroom as part of the tour. That room has not looked like that for a long, long time. It represents the 50s. So in a way it is kind of neat to have all three decades of Elvis' life at Graceland represented and preserved individually -- separate time capsules, if you will.

However, and this isn't a huge deal but I think worth noting, and I alluded to this in my earlier post: the living room never looked the way it now does. We've got the white color scheme and the peacock stained glass. No, I don't think they should have removed the stained glass when they redecorated. I'm just making a point. It's like a mixed metaphor.

Same thing with seeing the Nativity scene and the Santa and reindeer out on the lawn. The latter was used first and Elvis used the former later on; they were never out at the same time. However, for the purposes of our enjoyment, displaying them both is fine, especially since I believe they do note somewhere the chronology of their use.

Sorry, I'm really over-explaining this. Bottom line is that if they did go back to red, we would get a historically accurate picture of the rooms [don't recall if there is any of that stained glass in the dining room...regardless it would be red as well, along with the steps] in totality, and they would look as they did at the end of Elvis' life, which seems to make sense.

Again, if I had to guess I would think Lisa would be all about that, as I am sure that is the way she best remembers it being when her father was in it. But who knows.

The other thing is that the Jungle Room and the basement rooms are awesome in all their tacky 70s glory. They feel very Elvis to me. If the main area of the first floor was red, if less tasteful it would definitely be more reflective of Elvis' personality. When people go through the house and see that dated, flashy look, they don't have to approve of it on a level of "I'm gonna redecorate my house this way" but just appreciate that this was consistent with the times, if an an overblown fashion...very Elvis, like I said.

But you know...whatever they think is best for business.

The red color scheme is sort of treated like Elvis In Concert, you know?

[Suzan]

Bottom Line is the Pricilla acts like it is her house. I think Lisa humors her to a certain extent. Really, does Cilla act like the divorced, ex-wife, of the King? Or does she act like the Madame of Graceland. I think the later? I sure do not remember any wife of anyone act like this. I sure wish Elvis would have re-married and there would have been someone strong to knock that women off her pedastal. Lisa won't ever do that. (and I'm not bashing her, Pricilla has to be a lot to contend with) But her changing it has more to do with her ego and thinking that she is better than Linda. I don't care what it looked like when he died. If he hated it so bad he would have had it changed himself. And BTW red was a very popular color for a house of it's era. (ok maybe not that way exactly) But it was HIS house, to me tells a story about him.

Very well said and AMEN!

Shoot she had red carpeting in her home in Beverly Hills in the '70's so she's last to talk about anything being gaudy...good grief I posted pics of her house in 75, so that says it all for me.
And yes she does act like she is the owner of Graceland, even having the nerve to sit in Elvis' chair.

[presley31]

There likely is some truth to the fact that people would generally be less attracted to the red color scheme. However we are not talking about what looks best -- let's try this, maybe that -- but about preservation of history.

I am not outright opposed to the idea that Priscilla changed it, nor do I think the house has to look like it did when Elvis died. Consider that we have the parents' bedroom as part of the tour. That room has not looked like that for a long, long time. It represents the 50s. So in a way it is kind of neat to have all three decades of Elvis' life at Graceland represented and preserved individually -- separate time capsules, if you will.

However, and this isn't a huge deal but I think worth noting, and I alluded to this in my earlier post: the living room never looked the way it now does. We've got the white color scheme and the peacock stained glass. No, I don't think they should have removed the stained glass when they redecorated. I'm just making a point. It's like a mixed metaphor.

Same thing with seeing the Nativity scene and the Santa and reindeer out on the lawn. The latter was used first and Elvis used the former later on; they were never out at the same time. However, for the purposes of our enjoyment, displaying them both is fine, especially since I believe they do note somewhere the chronology of their use.

Sorry, I'm really over-explaining this. Bottom line is that if they did go back to red, we would get a historically accurate picture of the rooms [don't recall if there is any of that stained glass in the dining room...regardless it would be red as well, along with the steps] in totality, and they would look as they did at the end of Elvis' life, which seems to make sense.

Again, if I had to guess I would think Lisa would be all about that, as I am sure that is the way she best remembers it being when her father was in it. But who knows.

The other thing is that the Jungle Room and the basement rooms are awesome in all their tacky 70s glory. They feel very Elvis to me. If the main area of the first floor was red, if less tasteful it would definitely be more reflective of Elvis' personality. When people go through the house and see that dated, flashy look, they don't have to approve of it on a level of "I'm gonna redecorate my house this way" but just appreciate that this was consistent with the times, if an an overblown fashion...very Elvis, like I said.

But you know...whatever they think is best for business.

The red color scheme is sort of treated like Elvis In Concert, you know?

Yep l agree

[Suzan]

since sillerman is no fool he knew of course that she had no more rights in the name presley anyway since her divorce. insofar it is highly ridiculous that she received the money as 'compensation' for 'giving it up'.

what again did elvis sing? 'how can you lose what you never had' .

it was a lubricant for a smooth deal, not more and not less. in other words: bribery so she won't interfere in an unwanted way and continued playing the host for official events. no fan wants to see sillerman acting as host for the elvis-week or welcoming foreign prime ministers.

"Here then are the terms of the deal between Sillerman and Lisa Presley: CKX paid $114 million for an 85% interest in Elvis Presley Enterprises; Lisa retains the other 15%. Lisa received $50 million in cash, plus $26 million in CKX common and preferred stock. Another $25 million from CKX went to pay off EPE debt. And $6.5 million went to Priscilla Presley for use of the family name--even though Sillerman wasn't legally obligated to pay her anything, since Priscilla and Elvis were divorced, and Elvis's estate went to Lisa Marie. The payment will no doubt make it easier for Sillerman to call Priscilla up and ask her to come to a ribbon cutting of a new Elvis property, for instance.

source: 'the man who bought elvis' - CNN money dt. 12-10-2005

reg. the 'red decor' ..... i DO doubt that miss prissy will change her mind about the white-blue vs red-white, and she's involved in the redecoration, see below the excerpt from NYT report dt. 03-05-06 called 'all shook up'.

"While mapping out the renovations, Mr. Sillerman has been courting Graceland's guardians, including its second-most-famous former resident, Priscilla. When her daughter, Lisa Marie, struck the deal with CKX, Mrs. Presley gave up any commercial rights to Graceland and the Presley name and received $6.5 million in return. She is involved with plans for the renovations, though she has no financial stake in the project."



100% agree. in order to keep her shut out from redecoration he probably would have needed to another couple of million $$ .

hugs, ellie

Yup I'd read all that and then some pertaining to the sale. lol
How could she have given up commercial rights to a property she does not own? That Elvis made sure she didn't own????? I don't understand that at all.
I also don't understand why she's at Elvis or Graceland events at all? I wish Lisa would take more part in it...otherwise I have serious doubts of financially supporting any other ventures to do w/Graceland, not the surrounding area, but Graceland itself, maybe if the money stops flowing as easily LIsa will take a bigger interest or @ least remove Pris from much of it? I'd rather see Sillerman's mug then Prissy's.

[EDOEP]

Yup I'd read all that and then some pertaining to the sale. lol
How could she have given up commercial rights to a property she does not own? That Elvis made sure she didn't own????? I don't understand that at all.

you are not the only one

I also don't understand why she's at Elvis or Graceland events at all? I wish Lisa would take more part in it...otherwise I have serious doubts of financially supporting any other ventures to do w/Graceland, not the surrounding area, but Graceland itself, maybe if the money stops flowing as easily LIsa will take a bigger interest or @ least remove Pris from much of it? I'd rather see Sillerman's mug then Prissy's.

i think LMP has certainly not an easy life being elvis' daughter, that much to her excuse. unless she excels in her profession she will always remain in the shadow of her father. her worst decision was trying to succeed in the same job. she's average as a singer, but far from being brilliant as artist and as human being lacking any chrisma that made her father so outstanding.

on the other hand one also should be allowed to say that she still gives the impression of being a spoiled brat who has never in her life worked hard one single day (and probably won't unless the cash stops flowing). this may be due to her rather modest education or maybe simply a heritage of her grandpa vernon who was not too fond of hard work as well.

i get the impression that LMP's main interest in her father is making an easy living from his heritage. plus maybe she does not want to deal too much with him as she is aware of constantly being compared to him and she knows that she's far from meeting any of his levels. who could blame her to dislike and avoid being constantly reminded of her mediocracy?

since priscilla despite several attemps in several areas never had a real carreer of her own that deserved the term 'carreer' acting as fulltime-job-widow became her actual and most profitable profession.

hugs, ellie

[rocknroll]

is that a rare case of self-concept?

you tend to continuously quote sources the reliability of which is questionable, then present their 'facts' as given and continue to disregard additional factors.

As I stated previously, this is how they roll - stating their opinions, obsessions, wishes - as fact with nothing to back it up. All for the sole purpose of stiring the pot. When they are called out, they cry. Look at this thread as an example, almost instantly goes to three pages and growing.

Nothing wrong with restoring Graceland, if it doesn't need it now, eventually it will. Just keep it tasteful and I believe Lisa will do that. Sillerman has no say.

Moderators - how many threads do we need on this subject? we can all see why they are posted. Perhaps this one should be closed before it gets too out of hand.

[cameron]

There likely is some truth to the fact that people would generally be less attracted to the red color scheme. However we are not talking about what looks best -- let's try this, maybe that -- but about preservation of history.

I am not outright opposed to the idea that Priscilla changed it, nor do I think the house has to look like it did when Elvis died. Consider that we have the parents' bedroom as part of the tour. That room has not looked like that for a long, long time. It represents the 50s. So in a way it is kind of neat to have all three decades of Elvis' life at Graceland represented and preserved individually -- separate time capsules, if you will.

However, and this isn't a huge deal but I think worth noting, and I alluded to this in my earlier post: the living room never looked the way it now does. We've got the white color scheme and the peacock stained glass. No, I don't think they should have removed the stained glass when they redecorated. I'm just making a point. It's like a mixed metaphor.

Same thing with seeing the Nativity scene and the Santa and reindeer out on the lawn. The latter was used first and Elvis used the former later on; they were never out at the same time. However, for the purposes of our enjoyment, displaying them both is fine, especially since I believe they do note somewhere the chronology of their use.

Sorry, I'm really over-explaining this. Bottom line is that if they did go back to red, we would get a historically accurate picture of the rooms [don't recall if there is any of that stained glass in the dining room...regardless it would be red as well, along with the steps] in totality, and they would look as they did at the end of Elvis' life, which seems to make sense.

Again, if I had to guess I would think Lisa would be all about that, as I am sure that is the way she best remembers it being when her father was in it. But who knows.

The other thing is that the Jungle Room and the basement rooms are awesome in all their tacky 70s glory. They feel very Elvis to me. If the main area of the first floor was red, if less tasteful it would definitely be more reflective of Elvis' personality. When people go through the house and see that dated, flashy look, they don't have to approve of it on a level of "I'm gonna redecorate my house this way" but just appreciate that this was consistent with the times, if an an overblown fashion...very Elvis, like I said.

But you know...whatever they think is best for business.

The red color scheme is sort of treated like Elvis In Concert, you know?

I agree with you here.

[Lonniebealestreet]

Good to know, cameron.

rocknroll, if there are other topics on this same subject, I agree, we don't need that. And if you are referring to this thread getting off-topic to discuss Lisa and Priscilla merely in the context of what all they do wrong and how they should conduct themselves, I agree with that as well. As such things relate to Graceland and the estate, fine. Otherwise such things should be in the Off Topic forum but still with some degree of respect, eh, folks?

[Miss Clawdy]

There likely is some truth to the fact that people would generally be less attracted to the red color scheme. However we are not talking about what looks best -- let's try this, maybe that -- but about preservation of history......

I agree with all you say.
It would be nice to see how it looked like when Elvis bought Graceland and how he redecorated it during his lifetime.

i herewith tell you that i just managed to complete my studies and i am able to beam humans across the universe - just like scottie did.

Ellie, that's great!!! Could you please beam me to Graceland???

[keke23]

As I stated previously, this is how they roll - stating their opinions, obsessions, wishes - as fact with nothing to back it up. All for the sole purpose of stiring the pot. When they are called out, they cry. Look at this thread as an example, almost instantly goes to three pages and growing.

Nothing wrong with restoring Graceland, if it doesn't need it now, eventually it will. Just keep it tasteful and I believe Lisa will do that. Sillerman has no say.

Moderators - how many threads do we need on this subject? we can all see why they are posted. Perhaps this one should be closed before it gets too out of hand.

Everything you just posted was nothin but provokin and attackin others views. Not to mention, completely wrong.

I provided a link with the facts. What did you provide other than a personal attack at me and Jay? But I'm not gonna go there.

Maybe next time you should practice what you preach.

[rocknroll]

Good to know, cameron.

rocknroll, if there are other topics on this same subject, I agree, we don't need that. And if you are referring to this thread getting off-topic to discuss Lisa and Priscilla merely in the context of what all they do wrong and how they should conduct themselves, I agree with that as well. As such things relate to Graceland and the estate, fine. Otherwise such things should be in the Off Topic forum but still with some degree of respect, eh, folks?

I'm just trying to warn you how this thread is going to spin out of control. it has already started (see the post above this one).

[keke23]

All I'm gonna say on this so it don't get turned into another argument is that this so called "rumor" is about to happen from what my sources have told me, who happens to live and work in Whitehaven.

Plus, he's been 100% accurate on everything he's told me so far.

Go to the E1 forum and search my posts from back in 06, I posted back then what was about to happen, how much it was gonna cost and that it aint gonna be an amusement park.

I told Jay by phone even what was about to happen and that an announcement was comin soon....and it did.

He just related it to yall. But I aint got no issues with that. The truth is the truth.

So yall who wanna continue to discredit me and my info.....it's yalls loss, not mine.

[Lonniebealestreet]

Everyone needs to tone it down, all passive-aggressive tactics included.

Everything you just posted was nothin but provokin and attackin others views. Not to mention, completely wrong.

Contradicting yourself, no?

I provided a link with the facts. What did you provide other than a personal attack at me and Jay? But I'm not gonna go there.

It sounds like you did.

Maybe next time you should practice what you preach.

I don't mean to pick on just you, Lakeisha. There are other examples of this but this post of yours was recent and therefore easy for me to quote. So I'm lazy.

It is natural for people to question things they don't have firsthand knowledge of...however they also need to question those things respectfully. Where that is not happening, let's try and do better, peeps.

Back to EP...

[utmom2008]

Very well said and AMEN!

Shoot she had red carpeting in her home in Beverly Hills in the '70's so she's last to talk about anything being gaudy...good grief I posted pics of her house in 75, so that says it all for me.
And yes she does act like she is the owner of Graceland, even having the nerve to sit in Elvis' chair.

You are 100% correct. The way that Cilla acted on the 16th on Larry King was unbelievable. If the casual observer had just flipped on the TV they would have said to themselves ". I thought they were divorced when he died..". The very way that she greets people when they enter and when they leave speaks volumes....this is HER house, lest we forget!!

[utmom2008]

Yup I'd read all that and then some pertaining to the sale. lol
How could she have given up commercial rights to a property she does not own? That Elvis made sure she didn't own????? I don't understand that at all.
I also don't understand why she's at Elvis or Graceland events at all? I wish Lisa would take more part in it...otherwise I have serious doubts of financially supporting any other ventures to do w/Graceland, not the surrounding area, but Graceland itself, maybe if the money stops flowing as easily LIsa will take a bigger interest or @ least remove Pris from much of it? I'd rather see Sillerman's mug then Prissy's.

Suzan...why is it that Lisa chooses not to take a bigger part in things? I always assumed that when she got older she would, but instead we are "treated" to Priscilla

[keke23]

Everyone needs to tone it down, all passive-aggressive tactics included.


Contradicting yourself, no?


It sounds like you did.




I don't mean to pick on just you, Lakeisha. There are other examples of this but this post of yours was recent and therefore easy for me to quote. So I'm lazy.

It is natural for people to question things they don't have firsthand knowledge of...however they also need to question those things respectfully. Where that is not happening, let's try and do better, peeps.

Back to EP...

Oh, so it's ok for certain members to take cheap shots at me, same as harass me which is one of your rules, and call me a liar, but it's not ok for me to respond and defend myself? Whatever......

[Lonniebealestreet]

No, it's not OK for them to do those things, Lakeisha.

That's why I said however they also need to question those things respectfully. Where that is not happening, let's try and do better, peeps.

You didn't get an infraction.

I suggest we all be a little less inclined to offend and less prone to feeling offended. Stop looking for battles and drudging up prior ones.

No one here is a certified expert. On the same token no one knows how much others know. So decide for yourself what you choose to believe and leave the condemning to...well, no one.