You fans of 1977 concerts

[epmoodyblue]

Who died and made you a moderator?

These people have every right to post what they think of 1977 concerts.

actually i would make agreat moderator for this forum,,..the topic clearly reads fans of 77 elvis concerts its obvious your not one of those along with some others who have stated here they dont like those years- we dont need you or others to bash any good post in this thread- your comments are not needed or wanted in this thread -dont enter a thread that dosent interest you. simple as that

[MojoElvis]

actually i would make agreat moderator for this forum,,..the topic clearly reads fans of 77 elvis concerts its obvious your not one of those along with some others who have stated here they dont like those years- we dont need you or others to bash any good post in this thread- your comments are not needed or wanted in this thread -dont enter a thread that dosent interest you. simple as that

I think you make an great MODERATOR. My thoughts were exactly the same. Just don't click on the button that says, 77 fans.

[utmom2008]

Okay, let's fall for all the hype that EPE keeps shoving in our faces and the shows that EPE keeps repackaging over and over again, as if to say, these where the only two shows that Elvis ever did a good job at. I'm sorry but I love the Aloha concert but I don't understand why he just didn't do as much movement. I've seen parts of MSG and clips from after that show and he rocked a lot harder. If you compare the way he sang, My Way in Aloha to the CBS show in 77, there is no comparison on witch one his voice sounded better in.

Mojo....MSG was done in June of 1972, and Aloha was done in January of 1973. That being said, I will say this....I saw Elvis in Vegas in August of 72 and he was still pretty physical. "Suspicious Minds" was still a karate demonstration. Fast forward 5 months to Aloha, he was much less physical. MUCH less...considering that it had only been 5 months. Vegas in August of 73 was less physical....a very good show, but much less movement than 12 months prior. The big thing was twisting around during "Fever". For me personally, there wasn't THAT much change in my physical abilities over a 3 year span in my early 40's. The changes were coming......slowly, but surely.

[Getlo]

I suppose everyone does have the right to post in any thread .
But, it clearly states ;You fans of 1977 concerts is for people that enjoyed these concerts. As I've been told many times: just stay out of the threads that you don't like. I can't see that's any more of "trying to act like a moderator" than the same thing that's been said to me.

And who said I didn't like this thread, nor some of the '77 shows?

[Getlo]

Okay, let's fall for all the hype that EPE keeps shoving in our faces and the shows that EPE keeps repackaging over and over again, as if to say, these where the only two shows that Elvis ever did a good job at. I'm sorry but I love the Aloha concert but I don't understand why he just didn't do as much movement. I've seen parts of MSG and clips from after that show and he rocked a lot harder. If you compare the way he sang, My Way in Aloha to the CBS show in 77, there is no comparison on witch one his voice sounded better in.

What's your point here? You compared Elvis' performance in In Concert to that of the '68 Special and Aloha ... He was "joking around" during Are You Lonesome Tonight in '77, you said, just like in '68 and '73 ....

[Getlo]

actually i would make agreat moderator for this forum,,..the topic clearly reads fans of 77 elvis concerts its obvious your not one of those along with some others

And where did I say I wasn't a fan of 1977 shows? Point me to an exact quote please. There are some good shows from '77 indeed.

And you'd make a lousy mod, because you're biased.

[Getlo]

If we're talking about Elvis' performances post '73 or so, then we really should divide them into two categories:

1. Vocal: Elvis' voice turned into something operatic towards the end. To say his voice never faltered is patently untrue. There were more than a few bum notes; every singer has delivered them from time to time. But, in terms of pure voice, Elvis' shows maintained a generally high standard.

2. Physical appearance: here's where most of the debate starts and ends. There is no arguing that, after Aloha, Elvis never ... and I mean never ... looked quite as good again. Find any photo from after January 1973 and he simply did not look as good as he did during the satellite special. It wasn't until mid '75 that he started to look genuinely haggard, and he never recovered from that.

The last show in which he looked reasonable was NYE in Pittsburgh '76. Now, I say he looked reasonable in that show, ie compared to earlier in '76 and especially compared with any time during 1977. But to say he looked healthy or "good" is just unimaginable. Good when compared to what, exactly? And yes, NYE '76 was a good show, one of the better ones of the latter years, no doubt about it.

But physically, there is simply no time in 1977 where Elvis could have been considered to look "good". None at all, sorry.

[cameron]

And who said I didn't like this thread, nor some of the '77 shows?

[Suzan]

I thought this thread specifically said ;You fans of 1977 concerts .
Some like them, some don't. All a matter of opinion.

I thought he looked very ill ; but he struggled and got it done.
I'm not much into " looks" but in the spirit and strength of the man.
He did ok for himself and his fans ,IMO.

Believe it or not I agree w/you.

[Suzan]

If we're talking about Elvis' performances post '73 or so, then we really should divide them into two categories:

1. Vocal: Elvis' voice turned into something operatic towards the end. To say his voice never faltered is patently untrue. There were more than a few bum notes; every singer has delivered them from time to time. But, in terms of pure voice, Elvis' shows maintained a generally high standard.

2. Physical appearance: here's where most of the debate starts and ends. There is no arguing that, after Aloha, Elvis never ... and I mean never ... looked quite as good again. Find any photo from after January 1973 and he simply did not look as good as he did during the satellite special. It wasn't until mid '75 that he started to look genuinely haggard, and he never recovered from that.

The last show in which he looked reasonable was NYE in Pittsburgh '76. Now, I say he looked reasonable in that show, ie compared to earlier in '76 and especially compared with any time during 1977. But to say he looked healthy or "good" is just unimaginable. Good when compared to what, exactly? And yes, NYE '76 was a good show, one of the better ones of the latter years, no doubt about it.

But physically, there is simply no time in 1977 where Elvis could have been considered to look "good". None at all, sorry.

I think his voice was great, espescially when doing "Hurt" or "How Great Thou Art", but yes I do agree his voice did falter, and yes it does happen to all artists. Funny you mention the operatic voice, I read someplace on the net about 2 yrs. ago or so where someone did a study of his voice and said that he had quite a range and I do believe they stated he had operatic range.

I think he looked alright in the white suite w/the black embroidery, however, I do have to agree that mostly he did not look healthy at all, and the televised CBS special, I cried, he was swollen and did not look well, in well I mean healthy...to me he didn't look fat as he did bloated, as it was his stomach and face that looked swollen, his legs and arms weren't large.

[Suzan]

Thank you for the thread Brad, I hope we can post snippets of the 77 concerts on here.

[cameron]

I think his voice was great, espescially when doing "Hurt" or "How Great Thou Art", but yes I do agree his voice did falter, and yes it does happen to all artists. Funny you mention the operatic voice, I read someplace on the net about 2 yrs. ago or so where someone did a study of his voice and said that he had quite a range and I do believe they stated he had operatic range.
I think he looked alright in the white suite w/the black embroidery, however, I do have to agree that mostly [B]he did not look healthy at all, and the televised CBS special, I cried, he was swollen and did not look well, in well I mean healthy...to me he didn't look fat as he did bloated, as it was his stomach and face that looked swollen, his legs and arms weren't large

His voice was fine ; it was the appearance of him looking so ill that bothered me. It's something I could never understand ; why he was not in a hospital? It was his stomach and face that were bloated. He wasn't fat IMO, but very ill.

[Getlo]

When you're consuming 65,000 to 100,000 calories a day like Elvis was at the very end, there is no way his appearance could be blamed mostly on "bloat".

Elvis got fat.

Not that there's anything necessarily wrong with that.

[Getlo]

I'm not sure what Elvis' looks has to do with his concerts.

A concert isn't just about the music performed.

People went to see Elvis as much as they went to hear him perform on stage.

When an artist is performing sub par, the concert will inevitably be lacklustre.

Elvis' appearance contributed to his lack of movement. That, coupled with his occasionally haphazard approach to his shows, meant some latter-day concerts weren't great, not by any means. (Some, of course, but not all).

[cameron]

A concert isn't just about the music performed.

People went to see Elvis as much as they went to hear him perform on stage.

When an artist is performing sub par, the concert will inevitably be lacklustre.

Elvis' appearance contributed to his lack of movement. That, coupled with his occasionally haphazard approach to his shows, meant some latter-day concerts weren't great, not by any means. (Some, of course, but not all).

Everyone has their own opinion.
But, when I care about someone it has nothing to do with their looks;; but what's inside .
Looks fade; the person remains the same you loved in the first place.
Of course, I'm just too realistic I've been told.

[MojoElvis]

Mojo....MSG was done in June of 1972, and Aloha was done in January of 1973. That being said, I will say this....I saw Elvis in Vegas in August of 72 and he was still pretty physical. "Suspicious Minds" was still a karate demonstration. Fast forward 5 months to Aloha, he was much less physical. MUCH less...considering that it had only been 5 months. Vegas in August of 73 was less physical....a very good show, but much less movement than 12 months prior. The big thing was twisting around during "Fever". For me personally, there wasn't THAT much change in my physical abilities over a 3 year span in my early 40's. The changes were coming......slowly, but surely.

I think you miss understood me, you just made the point I was trying to make, except for if you ever saw clips of wearing the peacock suit and the 76/77 New Years Eve show, Polk Salad Annie and a number of other songs.

[MojoElvis]

Everyone has their own opinion.
But, when I care about someone it has nothing to do with their looks;; but what's inside .
Looks fade; the person remains the same you loved in the first place.
Of course, I'm just too realistic I've been told.

I agree with this quote. If Elvis was standing right in front of you singing, you wouldn't care if he was "Rockin n Rolling" You'd just be happy to see him and hear him sing for you

[jak]

To say Elvis' voice was "fine" the last couple of years is wrong.He had some great moments that's true.Many times though his voice was extremely weak during shows and he wouldnt even attempt notes.He would let somebody else hit them.If the only audio you have from this period is Elvis In Concert or a few audio snippets off the internet I can understand somebody thinking his voice was just fine.With all the audio recordings we have it's clear the truth was much different.You cant listen to all these recordings and say his voice was fine.He was truly struggiling.Somebody mentioned the version of My Way from EIC as being superior to Aloha.I completely agree.For me it's the definitive version.Even over the master recording.He could still reach down at times and deliver greatness during 76 or 77.
Jak

[Getlo]

You'd just be happy to see him and hear him sing for you

I'd be sad if I witnessed, for example, Hollywood Florida, February 1977.

That's not how I would have wanted to remember my live Elvis concert experience ...

[Suzan]

[QUOTE=cameron;160373]

I think his voice was great, espescially when doing "Hurt" or "How Great Thou Art", but yes I do agree his voice did falter, and yes it does happen to all artists. Funny you mention the operatic voice, I read someplace on the net about 2 yrs. ago or so where someone did a study of his voice and said that he had quite a range and I do believe they stated he had operatic range.
I think he looked alright in the white suite w/the black embroidery, however, I do have to agree that mostly he did not look healthy at all, and the televised CBS special, I cried, he was swollen and did not look well, in well I mean healthy...to me he didn't look fat as he did bloated, as it was his stomach and face that looked swollen, his legs and arms weren't large.[/QUOTE]

His voice was fine ; it was the appearance of him looking so ill that bothered me. It's something I could never understand ; why he was not in a hospital? It was his stomach and face that were bloated. He wasn't fat IMO, but very ill.

I'm not understanding why you quoted me? LOL And are you agreeing his stomach and face were bloated or quoting me again?????