I took this off the other thread as we were off topic ...
Originally Posted by malc07
(sigh)
Must we go through this again?
1. You're using Amazon and the deluxe DVD as your source? They are regurgitating the same myth.
2. Wikipedia ... this webite has little credibility, and can be edited by anyone. Let me guess: you typed in "aloha from hawaii, total viewers" into the site, or into Google, right?
Now, follow me here ...
The original telecast of Aloha was not watched by 1.5 billion people. Not even close to that figure.
It went out live to Hawaii and Asia, and two cities only here in Australia. And a few other countries.
It was beamed to Europe one day later, so viewers there cannot be included in the original total of viewers who saw it live.
The total amount of viewers who watched Aloha only ... and I repeat only ... comes near 1.5 billion when you add the viewers who watched in Europe one day later, and those in the US who saw it the following April.
I cannot say this any clearer.
More people watched the moon landing live in 1969 than Aloha live in 1973.
The moon landing was a one-off live event, with no significant edited versions months later, or a repeat one day later.
More people ... eventually ... watched Aloha than the moon landing - it just took a while. But that was not the case on January 14, 1973. Talk like this only serves to keep the myth going. It would be a lovely thing for Elvis to be remembered by, but it simply is not true.
I can't speak for other countries, but the Australian viewing total for Aloha has been exaggerated over the years as well. Something like 60% of TVs here were tuned into the telecast. Now, as I said, only two cities (Sydney and Melbourne) took the show live, the other cities dipped out. So it wasn't 60% of Aussie viewers tuning in at all ... only 60% of TVs in those two cities. Perhaps other countries' totals have been exaggerated over the years as well; I don't know.
(Oh, and by way of trivia ... it is also a myth that you can see the Great Wall of China from space. I'd be happy to give you the origins of that myth as well if you like ...)
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
Getlo is correct. The only people who originally claimed this were the record company and Elvis' circle. It is from there the myth grew and anytime this is mentioned, the myth is fallen back on.
Total viewers, maybe 1.5 billion, but this was not the number who actually saw the show live, not even close. I think the live numbers are probably closer to 100 million. The next day the rest of the world tuned in (not live) and then 3 months later the U.S. finally got in the game.
Yes.
Another myth is that Aloha was the first musical performance beamed live around the world via satellite.
It was not.
It was the first concert (by a single artist) to be taken via satellite around the world.
The first satellite musical performance was The Beatles' All You Need Is Love in 1967. I'm sure you all know it.
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
I would hope, and think, that most discerning people know the Beatles had the first satelite performance.
The album was, however, the first quadraphonic release to hit number one. Not sure how great that is, but it is something......right?
You'd think, yeah.
I only realised a few years back that Mick Jagger is in that as well (on tambourine as I recall), along with a few other notables ...
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
Maybe.The album was, however, the first quadraphonic release to hit number one. Not sure how great that is, but it is something......right?
When did the quad version come out? Are the quad sales included in the number one sales?
Brain freeze ... we can never find this one out I'm afraid ...
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
yes Im afraid we must.you have quoted facts and figures as you say.but ...and pardon me for asking.where have you got your info from...I am just an ordinary ELVIS fan,who has only got the internet and books to go by.and not personal experiances...I took this off the other thread as we were off topic ...
(sigh)
Must we go through this again?
1. You're using Amazon and the deluxe DVD as your source? They are regurgitating the same myth.
2. Wikipedia ... this webite has little credibility, and can be edited by anyone. Let me guess: you typed in "aloha from hawaii, total viewers" into the site, or into Google, right?
Now, follow me here ...
The original telecast of Aloha was not watched by 1.5 billion people. Not even close to that figure.
It went out live to Hawaii and Asia, and two cities only here in Australia. And a few other countries.
It was beamed to Europe one day later, so viewers there cannot be included in the original total of viewers who saw it live.
The total amount of viewers who watched Aloha only ... and I repeat only ... comes near 1.5 billion when you add the viewers who watched in Europe one day later, and those in the US who saw it the following April.
I cannot say this any clearer.
More people watched the moon landing live in 1969 than Aloha live in 1973.
The moon landing was a one-off live event, with no significant edited versions months later, or a repeat one day later.
More people ... eventually ... watched Aloha than the moon landing - it just took a while. But that was not the case on January 14, 1973. Talk like this only serves to keep the myth going. It would be a lovely thing for Elvis to be remembered by, but it simply is not true.
I can't speak for other countries, but the Australian viewing total for Aloha has been exaggerated over the years as well. Something like 60% of TVs here were tuned into the telecast. Now, as I said, only two cities (Sydney and Melbourne) took the show live, the other cities dipped out. So it wasn't 60% of Aussie viewers tuning in at all ... only 60% of TVs in those two cities. Perhaps other countries' totals have been exaggerated over the years as well; I don't know.
(Oh, and by way of trivia ... it is also a myth that you can see the Great Wall of China from space. I'd be happy to give you the origins of that myth as well if you like ...)
I really dont see why you have to be so brash.and talk down to people...if you know and can prove a fact,be it on this or any other topic,then thats good.but to rile people into arguments is not the right thing to do..I dont claim to know everything and everything..and thought this was supposed to be a friendly place to learn and make friends.
and if I mam wrong about anything that I post,and are corrected,well then I have learnt something.Nobody knows EVERYTHING...
I respect your views and opinions just as I do anybodys,but to be sarcastic.IMO is down right rude.We are not in a bar,discussing topics,we are in a FORUM,a Friendly FORUM..
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I am brash because I don't like comments like this, without provocation.
There were more polite ways to say this.
As for my "figures" re Aloha ... I did not mention any, apart from the mythical total of 1.5 billion (and the percentage of Australian TV viewership).
The information about Aloha and which countries watched it and when is readily available. The internet is a wonderful thing, but there is more there than Wikipedia and the like. Keep looking.
And further info: the show was beamed to South-East Asia (not "Asia" as I'd written). I should have been more specific.
And it was seen in 28 European countries ... one day later.
No, they do not. And I do not for one minute believe that I do, either, and have never suggested that.
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
I took this off the other thread as we were off topic ...
(sigh)
Must we go through this again?
1. You're using Amazon and the deluxe DVD as your source? They are regurgitating the same myth.
2. Wikipedia ... this webite has little credibility, and can be edited by anyone. Let me guess: you typed in "aloha from hawaii, total viewers" into the site, or into Google, right?
Now, follow me here ...
The original telecast of Aloha was not watched by 1.5 billion people. Not even close to that figure.
It went out live to Hawaii and Asia, and two cities only here in Australia. And a few other countries.
It was beamed to Europe one day later, so viewers there cannot be included in the original total of viewers who saw it live.
The total amount of viewers who watched Aloha only ... and I repeat only ... comes near 1.5 billion when you add the viewers who watched in Europe one day later, and those in the US who saw it the following April.
I cannot say this any clearer.
More people watched the moon landing live in 1969 than Aloha live in 1973.
The moon landing was a one-off live event, with no significant edited versions months later, or a repeat one day later.
More people ... eventually ... watched Aloha than the moon landing - it just took a while. But that was not the case on January 14, 1973. Talk like this only serves to keep the myth going. It would be a lovely thing for Elvis to be remembered by, but it simply is not true.
I can't speak for other countries, but the Australian viewing total for Aloha has been exaggerated over the years as well. Something like 60% of TVs here were tuned into the telecast. Now, as I said, only two cities (Sydney and Melbourne) took the show live, the other cities dipped out. So it wasn't 60% of Aussie viewers tuning in at all ... only 60% of TVs in those two cities. Perhaps other countries' totals have been exaggerated over the years as well; I don't know.
(Oh, and by way of trivia ... it is also a myth that you can see the Great Wall of China from space. I'd be happy to give you the origins of that myth as well if you like ...)
Thanks for info Getlo, alot new information here!!
I have allways thought that Elvis performed live telecast first, but Beatles in 67`.
Taking Care of BusinessTil we meet you again, may God bless you, Adios.
[QUOTE=Getlo;156122]I am brash because I don't like comments like this, without provocation.
If you were more friendly ..there wouldnt be comments like this...
I was aware that the show was shown a day later in places,and in my orrigional post I never said anything like "ON THE DAY".i mearly stated.more people watched aLOHA than the moon walk....
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My Radio shows every Thursday and Sunday at 7pm UK time
But that's misleading.
By that rationale, more people watched Clambake than the moon landing.
They just didn't do it on the one day.
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
[quote=malc07;156134]Don't hold your breath waiting for Getlo to show any respect for his fellow posters, or to Elvis' memory for that matter, nor are his facts and figures always correct.
Really, Joe? You really want to go this route with unwarranted personal attacks?
Please past a link to a thread where I have given incorrect facts and figures.
Any time you're ready.
I show respect to those that deserve it.
And do not ever ... ever ... criticise my respect for Elvis' memory.
Last edited by Getlo; 11-07-2007 at 11:26 AM.
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
[QUOTE=Joe Car;156139]IMO Getlo know his facts and hasn't been proved wrong
Uhhm ... thank you.
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
I criticise your respect for "Elvis'" memory. You are a sore spot on that memory because you show no respect for the fans. In your haste to be above everyone else, you show no human decency. And your idle threats? "Elvis" doesn't like your kind of attitude, the know-it all. Ask Joe E., he'll tell you. And I guess you forgot how "Elvis" felt about anyone attacking his fans and not just physically. Ask Red, Sonny and Marty. Or just the fact that "Elvis" didn't like uppity people. If you couldn't be a down to earth person you were on the bad side. Sometimes tolerated, sometimes not. And you never said anything about the family. You aren't a fan, you are a user, someone who tries to gain fame from someone else's success. And certainly no friend of "Elvis'".Really, Joe? You really want to go this route with unwarranted personal attacks?
Please past a link to a thread where I have given incorrect facts and figures.
Any time you're ready.
I show respect to those that deserve it.
And do not ever ... ever ... criticise my respect for Elvis' memory.
You still here?
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
For the record. Elvis still holds the record for the largest TV audience for a concert performance by a single performer with 'Aloha From Hawaii'. The Guinness Book Of World records have stated to me that they are willing to accept that providing I can produce evidence of ratings and viewer figures. Unfortunately, this is now virtually impossible and even EPE have stated they cannot help in this regard. Sadly, only anecdotal evidence now exists. Should anyone on this message board wish to research the matter further then if you are successful Elvis could have another World Record.
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