Interesting tidbit about Joe E. & Elvis' death

[Suzan]

I have read that livor mortis had set in, causing his face to be such a deep shade of blue/purple, and the body was cool and in the beginning stages of rigor mortis as well. He had bitten down on his tongue and his jaw was stiff, therefore they couldn't get a tube down his throat and had to settle for a mask over his face. This is how it's told in "The Death of Elvis."

Yes I read all that to and often wondered why it was necessary to go into such morbid detail of his last moment. I know it's part of the big picture but still. Yet I read it anyway.

Billy gave additional info as well...

[Erhan]

Joe stated he called 911 after Ginger called downstairs. At that time(1977)there was no 911. Joe said Elvis was in bed, in fact he was in the bathroom. He recanted his statement saying he could not perform C.P.R. on Elvis,because Elvis' mouth was closed shut(due to rigor)The ambulance drivers supposedly had to break his legs to get him to lay straight on the streacher. Joe said he pulled up his pajamas to give Elvis some dignity.According to the Medical report he was found unclothed.So many different versions. No wonder people have a hard time believing the true facts of that terrible day.

First you can perform C.P.R. by nose if mouth was close

"break legs" story is funny I don't belive that shits I don't belive Joe's stories...

[Getlo]

elvis died of an accidental mix of whatever he took..the mix took effect in the bathroom..his heart couldint take it anymore... not suicide but accidental death massive heart attack brought on by drug intake ............very tragic

If you're referring to the long term effects of drug use, then yes. But if you're referring to the specific, final lot of drugs, then ... wrong.

[MissyM]

Have you even done CPR on someone you loved? Leave now if you don't like graphic. Let me tell you the details never ever leave you head and it is torture. You go back through every single detail and ask yourself if you did everything right. Did you fully clear the airway of vomit? Did you use strong enough breaths? You remember the color of their face, blue, white, whatever. You try to remember if you heard even the tiniest breath of life. You remember exactly what the body felt like. You question if you did the right thing by even trying. You don't forget. Period! It is played out like a nightmare in slow motion,in your head forever. Right after you do it, no, for me the details are not clear because you are in post-traumatic stress situation. After the fog wears off then it all comes back unfortunately.

[Suzan]

Have you even done CPR on someone you loved? Leave now if you don't like graphic. Let me tell you the details never ever leave you head and it is torture. You go back through every single detail and ask yourself if you did everything right. Did you fully clear the airway of vomit? Did you use strong enough breaths? You remember the color of their face, blue, white, whatever. You try to remember if you heard even the tiniest breath of life. You remember exactly what the body felt like. You question if you did the right thing by even trying. You don't forget. Period! It is played out like a nightmare in slow motion,in your head forever. Right after you do it, no, for me the details are not clear because you are in post-traumatic stress situation. After the fog wears off then it all comes back unfortunately.

Truth.

[Getlo]

Joe stated he called 911 after Ginger called downstairs. At that time(1977)there was no 911.

That's an unfair statement.

For Americans, "911" has become part of the lexicon and jargon. Joe presumably said "911" when recounting the story rather than "the ambulance" or "emergency services".

Additionally, the 911 service began in the States in 1968.

[MissyM]

Yeh, that's a detail I wouldn't get hung up on. But if he did call Weintraub, it may have been to tell him that it looked like the shows booked weren't going to happen. (even if they could revive him) Why that would be important right at that moment??????

[epmoodyblue]

If you're referring to the long term effects of drug use, then yes. But if you're referring to the specific, final lot of drugs, then ... wrong.

i posted drug intake ..but what i really meant was after years of drug abuse pills or whatever he was taking the final outcome on aug 16 th was a massive heart attack due to many years of substance abuse his heart gave up--sadly those are the facts

[Suzan]

That's an unfair statement.

For Americans, "911" has become part of the lexicon and jargon. Joe presumably said "911" when recounting the story rather than "the ambulance" or "emergency services".

Additionally, the 911 service began in the States in 1968.

No 911 in TN in 1977. It may have been in place in 1968 but very very few States had it avail. then.

But yes it was prob. just terminology on Joe's part and nothing significant.

[Getlo]

No 911 in TN in 1977.

It began properly in Memphis itself in 1988.

[cameron]

If you read that article , it wasn't Joe that did that interview anyway. It was Weintraub. I've read Patricks book.
He makes some good points , but in the long run it is "his conclusions" and I'm not sure why he or anyone thinks "his conclusions" are better than anyone else in the long run.

[MissyM]

Because Weintraube remains friends with Lisa and Pricilla, even being Lisa's agent, I would take it with a grain of salt.

[Suzan]

Because Weintraube remains friends with Lisa and Pricilla, even being Lisa's agent, I would take it with a grain of salt.

Exactly. Indeed he is Lisa's agent. I met him, nice enough guy, but I take w/grain of salt as well.

[Suzan]

It began properly in Memphis itself in 1988.

Yes.

[cameron]

Exactly. Indeed he is Lisa's agent. I met him, nice enough guy, but I take w/grain of salt as well.

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I take what any of them say "as a grain of salt."

[MissyM]

It sounds like he is a good agent too. So I think Lisa's decision is probably a wise one. I have no problem with that at all. But it does serve him well to stay in Cilla's good graces. No? BTW I'm curious as to how much time he actually spent with Elvis?

[KPM]

It sounds like he is a good agent too. So I think Lisa's decision is probably a wise one. I have no problem with that at all. But it does serve him well to stay in Cilla's good graces. No? BTW I'm curious as to how much time he actually spent with Elvis?

Jerry Weintraub is a very rich, rich man. He was rich in the 70s- truthfully I can't see how staying in the good graces of anyone is really important to him or his livelihood. He could not promote another event for the rest of his life and still live like a king.

[john carpenter]

I stand corrected Joe didn't say the paramedics broke his legs it was the guy on the dvd "Elvis the final chapter" that said this..i forget his name..oh Don Wilson was the dude. My appologies.