Interesting tidbit about Joe E. & Elvis' death

[ksimms2]

http://elvisdecoded.blogspot.com/200...1_archive.html

Read this blog. There is a part in it about Joe E. reporting to Jerry Weintraub minutes after finding Elvis dead....and it completely goes against what Joe E. tells the public about trying to resucitate (sp?) Elvis, etc.

This blog is by Patrick who wrote Elvis Decoded - breaking the myth's that have surrounded Elvis' life - basically all the stuff we discuss here. I do want to get this book - do any of you have it? Make sure and read about Joe E. and Weintraub.

Hope this doesn't offend anyone.

[jak]

I wouldnt place to much importance on it.Most of these things are just due to bad memory.That was a long time ago and a very stresfull situation.They tried to revive him for so long because he was Elvis Presley.Dr Nick has stated it was obvious Elvis was dead when he got there.He thought he might have heard some air move in Elvis' lungs that offered just a little hope.Even Marion Cocke said it was obvious he was dead.She was in the room.I wouldnt say that Weintraub's recollections of these couldnt be off also.There is no great mystery lurking in those comments.
Jak

[Getlo]

They tried to revive him for so long because he was Elvis Presley. He thought he might have heard some air move in Elvis' lungs that offered just a little hope.

Yeah. The whole stress of the situation has muddled many memories.

As for air moving in the lungs, it would've been simply a case of the trapped air being expunged as Elvis' body was turned over. No biggie.

Also, some time would have been taken to clean up the bathroom and the house of any evidence of drugs: syringes, vials etc ... not to mention replacing the book Elvis was reading with The Scientific Search For The Face of Jesus.

Elvis collapsed and died ... metres from the crapper ... in the bathroom.

[ksimms2]

I just find it odd that Joe called Jerry almost immediately after finding Elvis' body - after telling everyone that he tried performing CPR, etc. for a while until paramedics got there. This time line does not support that theory. Oh well, I thought it was interesting....

[jak]

Yeah. The whole stress of the situation has muddled many memories.

As for air moving in the lungs, it would've been simply a case of the trapped air being expunged as Elvis' body was turned over. No biggie.

Also, some time would have been taken to clean up the bathroom and the house of any evidence of drugs: syringes, vials etc ... not to mention replacing the book Elvis was reading with The Scientific Search For The Face of Jesus.

Elvis collapsed and died ... metres from the crapper ... in the bathroom.

The housekeepers have stated they were instructed to toss out the evidence of his drug usage.That's the only cover up.
Jak

[cameron]

I have his book. He just tried to cover too much IMO.
IF you haven't studied Elvis and all the assorted people and stories. you can get lost . He makes some good points , but IMO. he should have written about 3 books instead of trying to put it all in one.

He covers many of the stories including the illigitament children, fake Lisa etc.etc.
He also gives everyones answers to things. {they contradict each other }
At the end of each he gives you his opinion of what's true and what isn't.

[jak]

I just find it odd that Joe called Jerry almost immediately after finding Elvis' body - after telling everyone that he tried performing CPR, etc. for a while until paramedics got there. This time line does not support that theory. Oh well, I thought it was interesting....

I cant recall the details of the cpr thing.Maybe Joe was just shaken when he said it?That's understandable.The pressure and stress must have been immense.When he was found Elvis wouldnt have been able to have cpr.I believe he was already to stiff for that.Nick has said Elvis had been gone for some time when he was discovered.
Jak

[ksimms2]

I cant recall the details of the cpr thing.Maybe Joe was just shaken when he said it?That's understandable.The pressure and stress must have been immense.When he was found Elvis wouldnt have been able to have cpr.I believe he was already to stiff for that.Nick has said Elvis had been gone for some time when he was discovered.
Jak

I don't see how you can forget whether you gave someone cpr or not....that part doesn't make sense....I'm just saying the whole scenario doesn't make sense surrounding the discovery of his body on......too many inconsistencies. I'm sure they did do a sweep of the room, like they always did his hotel rooms, getting rid of any evidence he left behind of his drug usage. I guess you could say even in death, they were looking out for him.

[jak]

I don't see how you can forget whether you gave someone cpr or not....that part doesn't make sense....I'm just saying the whole scenario doesn't make sense surrounding the discovery of his body on......too many inconsistencies. I'm sure they did do a sweep of the room, like they always did his hotel rooms, getting rid of any evidence he left behind of his drug usage. I guess you could say even in death, they were looking out for him.

I dont know how you would react in that situation.Personally I dont know of any great mysteries surrounding the scene of death.The house being in pandemonium upon the discovery accounts for most I think.
Jak

[presley31]

I read that it was aunt delta and nancy rooks that cleaned that room.

[ksimms2]

I read that it was aunt delta and nancy rooks that cleaned that room.

Is that from Nancy's book, "Inside Graceland"? I really want to read that book. I'm reading Albert Goldman's book now and so far not too good....he really over exaggerates alot of stuff. But I figured I'd get his view just like all the others that I've read.

[cameron]

I read that it was aunt delta and nancy rooks that cleaned that room.

Yes, it's what Nancy Rooks said. I have her book too.

[jak]

Is that from Nancy's book, "Inside Graceland"? I really want to read that book. I'm reading Albert Goldman's book now and so far not too good....he really over exaggerates alot of stuff. But I figured I'd get his view just like all the others that I've read.

The Goldman book is essentially accurate.The problem is that Goldman wrote it from a malicious point of view.He seems to delight in Elvis' misery.It's obvious he hated Presley.As often stated "Careless Love" is the one I would pick as the best ever on the later years.Written by a true Elvis admirer who is able to look at the whole picture with an objective mind and honest appraisal of what really happened.
Jak

[ksimms2]

The Goldman book is essentially accurate.The problem is that Goldman wrote it from a malicious point of view.He seems to delight in Elvis' misery.It's obvious he hated Presley.As often stated "Careless Love" is the one I would pick as the best ever on the later years.Written by a true Elvis admirer who is able to look at the whole picture with an objective mind and honest appraisal of what really happened.
Jak

yes it's obvious he doesn't like Elvis....the adjectives you uses to describe him are just horrible.

[KPM]

I dont know how you would react in that situation.Personally I dont know of any great mysteries surrounding the scene of death.The house being in pandemonium upon the discovery accounts for most I think.
Jak

People screaming and crying, Lisa running around trying to get into the room. Vernon sobbing "Dont leave me son" Absolute panic is not something you can describe well in a few words but thats what it seems to have been. People were probably in shock and it all seemed like a daze it happened so quick.
(at least in their concept of time while it unfolded)

[ksimms2]

yes it's obvious he doesn't like Elvis....the adjectives you uses to describe him are just horrible.

well heck, I meant "the adjectives HE uses are just horrible"...sorry.

[ksimms2]

People screaming and crying, Lisa running around trying to get into the room. Vernon sobbing "Dont leave me son" Absolute panic is not something you can describe well in a few words but thats what it seems to have been. People were probably in shock and it all seemed like a daze it happened so quick.
(at least in their concept of time while it unfolded)

KPM, I understand all this, I still think he would have known the difference of if he performed cpr or not. Not sure why he would say he did - if in fact he did not. Maybe he said it to make the world feel better knowing someone tried - maybe to sugar coat the horrible fact of his death. Not sure myself.

[Stryx]

They probabaly did CPR on Elvis. Why woulden't they? They all knew he was dead, but they still brought into the Accident and Emergency room at Baptist.....no one wanted Elvis to die, not many want him to be dead now.

It's only natural to try and get him to breathe - even if it was obvious Elvis had been dead for some time.

[ksimms2]

They probabaly did CPR on Elvis. Why woulden't they? They all knew he was dead, but they still brought into the Accident and Emergency room at Baptist.....no one wanted Elvis to die, not many want him to be dead now.

It's only natural to try and get him to breathe - even if it was obvious Elvis had been dead for some time.

Stryx, did you click on the link and read the story? I'm just commenting on the time line mentioned there vs. what Joe E. has told the world since it happened. I'm not questioning the fact on "why wouldn't they perform cpr" only that Joe says he did - and the timeline speaks otherwise and if he really did not perform cpr (hey, maybe someone else did - but from what I understand rigormortis had set in and they couldn't) why say he did? Get what I mean? (I can see this thread will turn ugly. I'm not trying to debate Elvis' death, etc. only this statement about Joe E.)

[Stryx]

Stryx, did you click on the link and read the story? I'm just commenting on the time line mentioned there vs. what Joe E. has told the world since it happened. I'm not questioning the fact on "why wouldn't they perform cpr" only that Joe says he did - and the timeline speaks otherwise and if he really did not perform cpr (hey, maybe someone else did - but from what I understand rigormortis had set in and they couldn't) why say he did? Get what I mean? (I can see this thread will turn ugly. I'm not trying to debate Elvis' death, etc. only this statement about Joe E.)

Esposito's story has changed a bit over time about that day.