Reply With QuoteBased on what, exactly?Originally Posted by EDOEP
And before you answer "spilling the beans about their love life", I have one word for you: Priscilla.
"but far from beauty and somewhat trashy" - Jealousy, thy name is woman.
It's Miss Ryan, actually.
I shall remember these baseless, undiginified attacks and laughter about her perceived intellect next time someone jumps on posters here for offering opinions about Elvis which may not be too popular.
The hypocrisy is genuinely astounding to me ...
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Based on what, exactly?
And before you answer "spilling the beans about their love life", I have one word for you: Priscilla.
"but far from beauty and somewhat trashy" - Jealousy, thy name is woman.
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
what does priscilla have to do with this thread??Based on what, exactly?
And before you answer "spilling the beans about their love life", I have one word for you: Priscilla.
"but far from beauty and somewhat trashy" - Jealousy, thy name is woman.
Getlo, I'm suprised that this woman has made such an impact on you that you would defend her so. I can only go by what I saw on that interview.....trashy....sorry. She did not look respectable at all - like I said - wear a bra for cripes sake. Has nothing to do with jealousy as far as I'm concerned atleast. I was actually embarrassed for her while watching.
While Priscilla is not my favorite person (nor my least favorite) she certainly presented herself in a much more respectful manner. Even Linda Thompson who dressed so scantily looked nicer. I guess it's hard to describe what I mean.....but being a man - probably the more hanging out the better for you guys.....
Well, I don?t dislike her and I don?t think Elvis was looking for an intelligent woman either then or early in his life, but I think she was since she knew what Elvis was expecting of her and didn?t see the relationship as a big romance. He was with Linda and others during that time too so we can?t blame her for talking cold about him. Not for everyone had to be necessarily a pleasant experience meeting him...
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she announced to write a book about her relationship with elvis. if she only was an occasional bed-fellow .... how can she fill a complete book with it?
she seems 'bright'? are we talking about the same person?
in order to make cilla look dumb it does not need a lot - i remember to have seen an interview clip where cilla gave a camerateam a tour through GL (historic landmark ceremony) and told in the music room that on this piano lisa-marie as a child was practising 'beethoven's 5th symphony'(or was it the 9th? can't remember). that much as to mrs. beaulieu's level of education
. watch out, glenn gould and artur rubinstein. lisa's hot on your heels ...
i'll post it seperately - was on EWJ. i remember it that well because i translated the entire interview for a german forum - was pretty complicated, no structure in the sentences and low vocabulary.
i am wondering that you are wondering .... i dare to say so because it is my opinion. i personally have no experiences with drugs (unless icecream and cake do count into that category) but i've seen interviews with the likes of keith richards etc. - hence people who confess their drug abuse. there was a striking similarity in the way they acted and articulated.
plus - unless i am completely mistaken - the discussion in the german forum following the posted translation some user mentioned that she took drugs - at least at times and had told so in an interview as well. she also must have looked rather weird in that TV show.
should i find the reference, i'll post it for you.
no, but see above.
ellie
Last edited by EDOEP; 10-08-2007 at 10:45 AM.
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And in any case...who would offer opinions about ELVIS that would not be too popular..
those opinions would actually be read on another site,,,and not one that is loved by ELVIS FANS...miss or mrs makes no difference to me...
Lets not compare MISS RYAN to cilla...a
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I think elvis could of done better when he choose this one.
interview with sheila ryan on EWJ (03-07-2006)
source:
http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~presley/elnews256.htm
Q : When was the first time you met Elvis?
A : The first time I met Elvis I was in Las Vegas and Joe Esposito brought me backstage after I think it was the second show of the night and he came out of the dressing room and there was a waiting room outside of the dressing room. And he came out and he had this towel wrapped around his neck and there were, I don't know, maybe thirty people in the room and he walks out and the first thing that he does, I mean, the first thing that happens is our eyes meet, you know. And everyone noticed that, particularly the girl that he was seeing at the time. I mean, it was just sort of but that once in a lifetime magical thing, you know. He just walks out of the room and boom, you know what it's like. A magic. And I knew right at that moment, you know, just like this - knowing that I think most women have, but I certainly did have at that time in my life and I knew that I was gonna spend a lot of time with him.
Q : So you clicked instantly?
A : Instantly. I did, doesn't happen any more instant than that happened. It was fate.
Q : Did Elvis throw a grape at you?
A : Oh, yeah, He did throw a grape at me, yes, and I'm still not sure actually why he threw that grape at me. Joe Esposito has said that he threw it at me on purpose so that he could have a reason to come over and talk with me. I thought that he threw it at Joe for bringing, you know, an attractive woman and it was a jealousy kind of a thing. I thought, but I'm still not sure to this day and I don't know that I ever will be, really.
Q : What were Elvis's first words to you?
A : Elvis's first words to me were, "I'm sorry." I mean, really, it was an amazing shot, actually, you know. He's probably fifteen feet away and I was playing cool because, after that first look, you know, I didn't really need to know anything else that night. His girlfriend was there. I wasn't gonna make a scene, you know, but how he flung that grape and hit me right between the eyes, in the forehead, it is amazing to me.
Q : You're probably the only woman in the world who's been in that situation.
A : It hit by a grape, yes.
Q : Did you start talking that night?
A : No, I didn't get to talk with Elvis that night. Other than when he came over and he kneeled down and was apologizing and apologizing and apologizing and I was feeling uncomfortable because I knew that his girlfriend was watching and there was no mistake in what was going on between the two of us. It was, you know, one of those things. So he then got up and had to leave and, you know, be with the rest of the people in the room and so I took my cue and left. You know, almost immediately. Asked Joe Esposito to walk me out and so I didn't get to talk to him that night.
Q : When was the next time that you saw Elvis?
A : I had been in an apartment and I was changing apartments and, as I said before, at that time in my life, I just had a knowing, I knew things. You know, so my phone was disconnected for two days because I was transferring from one apartment to another and I knew that Joe was desperately trying to reach me. I just knew it and as soon as the phone was connected, I mean, the phone man was there and he put the thing in the thing and the phone rang and it was Joe. And, you know, I just said, "Hi, Joe." And he said, "God how did you know it was me? Where in the heck have you been and boss is just like," you know, he was just like not angry but frustrated that he hadn't been able to reach me for two days and I just kinda laughed. And he said, "My boss likes you and he wants to see you."
Q : Did you go on a big date with Elvis?
A : Yes, I went on a big date with Elvis. Big, big date. It lasted about two years. That's a big date.
Q : What were the type of things that you would do?
A : Elvis and I used to hide, you know. We would sneak out in the middle of the night and go get ice cream and it was like helicopters and the armed guard would come out and, you know, seek us out and hold us at gunpoint and be like, get back to the hotel. Of course, I'm exaggerating, but, yeah, we did, you know, just tried to be little kids, bad little kids. And he entertained me. The second night that I was there, our second evening together, he took me out on the balcony of the International Suite, you know, the big suite in Las Vegas that was sort of his home when he was in Las Vegas. And he sang to me. And he would sing a lot and we would read and have fun. We did have fun.
Q : Was there a special song?
A : Yes, well, you know what, there was a song that I loved and it wasn't a song that he sang. The song that he sang to me the first night, oddly enough, was a song, it was a single that I bought when I was maybe thirteen and I bought it and I was so proud of it. It was all the money I had, ninety-nine cents, you know. And I put it up on the counter and I was just looking at it and the name of it, oh, don't you just hate that. Anyway, it slipped behind the counter and I was devastated.
Q : What were the qualities you saw in Elvis that touched you?
A : Elvis had qualities that no other human being has, had, will have. Some of them are so hard to describe because the charisma, the qualities that he had were almost not of this world, you know. They were, a lot of times, angelic. He knew things before I knew things. He knew things that I was feeling before I was feeling them. He was very much a little boy, had that little boy quality and I've often said, you know, before I met him, he had that smile and everyone interpreted that smile to be his sexy look. And it wasn't that at all. It wasn't a sexy look. It was his innocence, his vulnerability. It wasn't at all something that he turned on and off. It was just, you know, just vulnerable.
Q : Elvis had a tender heart?
A : I don't think that there's another person, although, again, I mean, you know, let's face it. The man was just not normal, you know. The biggest joy that he had was in giving and I didn't really understand it that much at the time. But it was what brought most joy to him was to give.
Q : What meant most to you in your relationship with Elvis?
A : The thing that meant the most to me in my relationship with Elvis was that it was different than relationships that he had had with other women in that I wasn't the nagging, jealous. And I'm not saying that all the women that he was with were nagging and jealous but I didn't try to change him. I mean, I didn't expect him to be monogamous. When he would go away, I knew that he was gonna be with another woman and when he would come back he would tell me about what happened. And we would laugh because, you know, I was secure in knowing that, I mean, I wasn't a jealous. I'm still not a jealous person. And so what was most different about my relationship with him is that he didn't have to explain. He didn't have to be afraid. He didn't have to hide, although he did hide some things. I mean, it wasn't completely an open book but.
Q : Was it a really passionate relationship?
A : Our relationship was passionate and I'm surprised to hear that women that I know, because at the time there were basically two. And then, you know, there was myself and then Linda Thompson and we were sort of you know, running the race and we were, at first, you know, he was seeing her and then I came along and then it was sort of like a horserace, you know. We were neck and neck and then I fell behind and then she, you know. But I'd heard that he didn't have a lot of intimacy with women. That mostly he did, you know, a lot of talking and staying up and reading and we had a very active passionate romantic life. Sometimes more than I was ready for, prepared for. I, you know, sometimes I was tired and it was no, no, no. So, you know, yeah, I'm really, really surprised to hear that other women had, you know, a problem with the amount of intimacy and sex and.
Q : And then sometimes you kept him up by reading to him?
A : Yeah, he would have me read to him until he would fall asleep and then I would sort of like really slowly close the book and lean over and put it on the bedside table and then I was so excited because then I got to go to sleep and I'd just be coming back and put my head on the pillow, it was too late. But, oh, what, Keep reading. I was like. Oh, okay. I was, really I was.
Q : Forgive me if this isn't you.
A : Oh, I know what's coming.
Q : Elvis wanted everybody to get their hair dyed in the middle of the night?
A : In the middle of the night, Elvis wanted his hair dyed. And so he wanted me to do it. He didn't want Charlie to do it. And I don't think Charlies really ever lived that down.
Q : Talk about Elvis's playfulness.
A : Yeah, he had this laugh. He and Joe Esposito would sometimes get together before all the people came over. And they'd be in the den and I'd be there and Elvis would start telling jokes. And then Joe would start telling jokes and sometimes it was interesting because they would finish each others sentences and so Joe would tell a joke and then Elvis would finish the joke and then they would start laughing. And he would get carried away and he'd start hitting me on the leg cause you know how someone will hit themselves on the leg when they're hysterical laughing. And, you know, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha, like that. And he was like. He would, my leg is like, you know, just kind of welting up a little bit. And then he used to have a good time with Ricky, his stepbrother. And he had this sword thing that he would do with Ricky. I don't know if you've heard about that.
Q : Tell us about that.
A : Okay, there was a trick, I mean, and I don't even, you know, he could do things that were really not normal, that were not, I mean, you could always feel safe no matter what he was doing. You would always feel like there were angels around or something. But he had these two, I don't know what kind of knives or samurai or huge, huge like each knife was about that long. And he'd take the two of 'em and he'd say, "Ricky, go get me my knives." Well, Ricky would just break into a sweat and he'd turn all red, "No, please, not the-- I'll do anything. Please don't make me do that. Don't make me do that." So he'd take these two knives and he'd go into his kind of karate mode, you know, and he would go [NINJA SOUNDS]. Up and down his body, missing him by, you know, just little and never touched him but and, you know, of course, that we all thought that was funny but Ricky didn't think it was funny.
Q : He was probably sweating.
A : Yeah, yeah. That was funny. And just, you know, there was this one thing. He had that all the guys had all these jokes between them and one of them was that and that meant something. And I probably shouldn't say what it meant. But it was funny.
Q : You can say.
A : It would mean "**************** you."
Q : Did you get that?
A : And, I mean, you know, the whole group, everybody, Elvis and Joe and Jerry and Ricky and just whoever was around, it was just always laughter. Just did it all the time and there were jokes. I remember one time we were going to the Memphian theatre. We were going there and on the way, you know, they would say, so we're going to the Memphian, no, the Memphuan, no the Memphieuian, the Memphalpheu. You know, and so then that would just like, you know, spin off into something ridiculous. And then I would always need to wear somebodys coat because I forgot to pack mine and Jerry Schilling always ended up having to give up his coat. So, you know, it was like, "****************, Elvis, why can't you just buy your girl some **************** clothes," you know. And just lighthearted and, you know, on the spot, it's hard to think of some of the things but call me tomorrow and I'll tell you the rest. But there's just a lot.
Q : Would Elvis run several pictures a night?
A : When we would go to the Memphian, it would the Memphalpheu. We wouldn't go until late. And usually, I don't know. I think his personal best was eight movies. I mean, one time I think I sat through three but that was the most that I had ever had to endure. It was Bruce Lee's "Kung Fu Fighting" or "Enter the Dragon" or one of those.
Q : What other type of movies did Elvis like?
A : Yes, "Dr. Strangelove." And all the Clouseau.
Q : Peter Sellers films?
A : Yes, so Elvis really loved Peter Sellers in the Pink Panther films.
Q : Did you do things like "Do you have a rhoom?"
A : "A rhoom." Yeah, he would say, "Guys, we are going to our..." No, no, no, no that's a different accent. "We are going to our rhooms. Our rhoom. Sheila Marie and I are going to the rhoom." Yeah.
Q : Did you ever just go out the two of you?
A : One time we were gonna go for a ride in the yellow Pantera and I was petrified because, you know, he just didn't go slow, you know. I was worried because he didn't drive that often cause we were always in a limousine and it was late and it was dark and we were on the Mississippi interstate. It was what and he's in this car and I'm there and it's just the two of us and I'm like, okay, I don't know how to be just the two of us, you know. And he was like lit up, you know, like a Christmas tree. His eyes were like they could be, you know. And we were going seventy-five and I'm thinking, okay, you know, I can deal with seventy-five. And then eighty-five and ninety-five and a hundred and thirty.
We were going a hundred and thirty and I'm thinking and then he goes, "Here, you take the wheel." And takes his hands off and I was like, "Please, that's not funny. Please." And I was like begging him and I was really scared. I was really scared and but yet I was just a side of him that I didn't see often. Carefree, you know, he wasn't on the job, he wasn't working. He wasn't at Las Vegas and he wasn't doing shows. So he was just having a good time and when we saw those gates with the musical notes on them, I was like, huh and I was really happy to be back.
(End of the tape)
addendum: the ******** was generated by the forum-software. the word that was bleeped-out started with an 'f' and has a total of 4 letters.
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ELLIE..
Some people think that I am (how shall I put it) "MAD."
just because I believe that women should be treated with respect,and that I stick up for them on a lot of things,and run us men down...well I dont give a ****************,what they think..
to me women are the most beautiful creatures on this planet,and deserve to be treated with love and respect...and if that makes me "MAD "and not"one of the boys then thats just tooo bad...
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based on my opinion, getlo, based on my opinion ...Based on what, exactly?
And before you answer "spilling the beans about their love life", I have one word for you: Priscilla.
"but far from beauty and somewhat trashy" - Jealousy, thy name is woman.and my own definition of 'class'.
i am far from being 'jealous' at mrs ryan. she has nothing worth to be jealous at .... plus i am far from being ugly myself. it's rather unlikely that i will ever lower myself to sheila's level - in any respect imaginable.
ellie
ps what has priscilla to do in that context?
Last edited by EDOEP; 10-08-2007 at 10:44 AM. Reason: term correction
i don't suffer from insanity - i enjoy every minute of it
Don?t be so sure. Check this link and pay attention at minute 8:55.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh95mfUVcWA
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good one, donut
now, HERE we got the explanation .....
i don't suffer from insanity - i enjoy every minute of it
thanks donut but l thought this thread was all about Sheila Ryan
I do think elvis could of done better when it came to Sheila Ryan.
Oh, do please try to keep up, presley31. There'll be a test at the end, and you'll fail!
I was anticipating the possibility that Ellie would say that Sheila was trashy because she spilled the beans about her and Elvis' love life. And ... are you following me here? ... in anticipation of that possible answer, I put forward the word Priscilla because ... now here's the hard bit ... Priscilla did that too. Get it? Got it? Good.
I haven't yet read Ellie's latest response, so the point is probably moot.
(big sigh ...)
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
She hasn't. I don't know Sheila Ryan from Eve.
What made the impact was the blatant hypocrisy of some posters willing to tear shreds of a woman based on one interview, implying that she took drugs ... when all these same posters do is jump on critics of Elvis for doing the same thing.
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
Ellie was showing you not me.Oh, do please try to keep up, presley31. There'll be a test at the end, and you'll fail!
I was anticipating the possibility that Ellie would say that Sheila was trashy because she spilled the beans about her and Elvis' love life. And ... are you following me here? ... in anticipation of that possible answer, I put forward the word Priscilla because ... now here's the hard bit ... Priscilla did that too. Get it? Got it? Good.
I haven't yet read Ellie's latest response, so the point is probably moot.
(big sigh ...)
well well well, i found 3 comments of members of the 'yahoo-legends-group' who had seen the interview with sheila ryan on TV in december 2006.
posted on 12-10-06 / 8.07 am local time:
I saw that interview. She was so stoned she couldn't even talk clear. And I think this book is just a figment of her imagination. JMHO
Hugs,
Ch****
posted on 12-11-06 / 2.14 am local time:
She said she was his last girlfriend and that they did cocaine together, very disgusting woman I thought.
A******
posted on 12-11-06 / 2.10 am local time:
That's BAdddd!! I wonder what she's on???
Lol, N****
and here is the announcement for her book of 1,000 pages (!!!, one-thousand
Sonicpastmusic.com has signed Sheila Ryan Caan, former fianc?e of Elvis and ex wife of James Caan, to a book and movie deal. Sheila has written 1000 pages about her life with Elvis and her. According to the press release, the book - titled ?Fame on Me? - contains material that has never been shared with anyone about many of Elvis?s heartaches and disappointments and betrayals, the pillow talk this young 20-year-old beauty kept secret for all these years.Source: Elvis Matters / Updated: Nov 7, 2006
i don't suffer from insanity - i enjoy every minute of it
if this was a 'sheila ryan' forum, i would understand your inputs .... since it is an 'elvis presley' forum - they are lacking logic, IMHO.
ellie
PS the 'based on one single interview' ..... see above. you are WRONG in that respect.
PPS since you seem so good in 'anticipating' ... maybe you could anticipate the outstanding contents of the book - a content that's worth 1000 pages.
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