You see, this is where your instincts come into play, Turnpike Taylor.
Because they are justifying themselves, and not telling stories through a person sitting back observing, but putting their own life history into their outlooks, and JUSTIFYING themselves (as I said), that is why, what you say, stands out like a sore thumb, to you, in my opinion.
"I always end up wondering why these guys stayed around E at all if he was as demanding and manipulative as they say"
They shot themselves in the foot, (in my opinion) you picked it up!
Kim