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  1. #21
    First off I don't wear glasses
    I look for the truth in everything, and for understanding.
    Any term, even Rose Colored Glasses, conjures up a stereotypical image-in this instance I guess some imply they are people who just see life as the Lesley Gore song "Sunshine, Lollypops and Rainbows..."
    Thats not me, go back and read some of my posts. But I don't buy every single negative thing I try to look at every possible answer for some of the things written and said. There are other plausable answers for many things in life and I don't close my mind to them. That may very well be rose colored glasses to some-IMO its not.
    The parable of the 6 blind men and the elephant is something I think shows how wrong someone can be just from lack of full understanding and not exploring all areas and avenues. Thinking "its so obvious" in anything is a bad habit. IMO
    Some things are easily understood so you are able to give total- concrete- 100% absolute definition to them.
    I don't think Elvis is one of those on any level.
    Last edited by KPM; 09-07-2007 at 03:22 PM.

  2. #22
    You're right KPM. Elvis was a very complex person with a lot of bottled-up energy and emotions that spilled out in a hundred different ways. I don't think he even understood himself.

    I bet that if he had been a child of today, doctors would have wanted to put him on Retalin. Even as an adult he seemed to border on hyper-activity...never could stay still for long and I think his mind was the same way, what they call a "busy mind". I've been told by a doctor I have one and I can tell you, it's not a restful way to be.

    I think it's good to want to be able to understand what Elvis was really all about but I think it's also a losing battle because of all the crisscrossed information out there.

    Diane

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    You're right KPM. Elvis was a very complex person with a lot of bottled-up energy and emotions that spilled out in a hundred different ways. I don't think he even understood himself.

    I bet that if he had been a child of today, doctors would have wanted to put him on Retalin. Even as an adult he seemed to border on hyper-activity...never could stay still for long and I think his mind was the same way, what they call a "busy mind". I've been told by a doctor I have one and I can tell you, it's not a restful way to be.

    I think it's good to want to be able to understand what Elvis was really all about but I think it's also a losing battle because of all the crisscrossed information out there.

    Diane
    I agree about crisscrossed information and also misinformation.

    I have always been a worrier and if if there is a problem or potential problem my mind never leaves it-my wife on the other hand has never missed a good nights sleep because of any problem we were faced with. She just lays down and 15 minutes later shes asleep. So I know what "busy mind" means.

  4. #24
    Yes you do KPM , my husband is like your wife.....lucky them!

    Diane

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    In his entireness,I wouldn't wish to change any piece of Elvis', since all the elements is in balance to build this person as it is in all of us, only needs to improve and it does in time if we give that time to each other and ourselves,and I don't limit that process in this lifetime ..after all,isn't that person Elvis's very self who made us come here from around the globe, made millions love him no matter what their cultures,religions,upbringings are,and became a hope and a source of happiness for all those people and only put smiles on their faces while this world is full of hate,killing,pain,intrigues..isn't the picture he painted in this place ROSE enough..while the real darkness is untouchable,unquestionable, what falses we are trying not to miss or detect in his personality,this is ridiculous and an empty work..well, I don't need those glasses to see the tons of rose in Elvis..
    Last edited by 4THEHEART; 09-06-2007 at 05:32 PM.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by 4THEHEART View Post
    In his entireness,I wouldn't wish to change any peace of Elvis', since all the elements is in balance to build this person as it is in all of us, only needs to improve and it does in time if we give that time to each other and ourselves,and I don't limit that process in this lifetime ..after all,isn't that person Elvis's very self who made us come here from around the globe, made millions love him no matter what their cultures,religions,upbringings are,and became a hope and a source of happiness for all those people and only put smiles on their faces while this world is full of hate,killing,pain,intrigues..isn't the picture he painted in this place ROSE enough..while the real darkness is untouchable,unquestionable, what falses we are trying not to miss or detect in his personality,this is ridiculous and an empty work..well, I don't need those glasses to see the tons of rose in Elvis..
    Oh my...I am speechless...you said it sooo well!

    Daddy, I miss you more every day. You will always be my hero..

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by 4THEHEART View Post
    In his entireness,I wouldn't wish to change any peace of Elvis', since all the elements is in balance to build this person as it is in all of us, only needs to improve and it does in time if we give that time to each other and ourselves,and I don't limit that process in this lifetime ..after all,isn't that person Elvis's very self who made us come here from around the globe, made millions love him no matter what their cultures,religions,upbringings are,and became a hope and a source of happiness for all those people and only put smiles on their faces while this world is full of hate,killing,pain,intrigues..isn't the picture he painted in this place ROSE enough..while the real darkness is untouchable,unquestionable, what falses we are trying not to miss or detect in his personality,this is ridiculous and an empty work..well, I don't need those glasses to see the tons of rose in Elvis..
    Thank You

  8. #28
    Yes Zey, you sure said it!

    Diane

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by 4THEHEART View Post
    In his entireness,I wouldn't wish to change any piece of Elvis', since all the elements is in balance to build this person as it is in all of us, only needs to improve and it does in time if we give that time to each other and ourselves,and I don't limit that process in this lifetime ..after all,isn't that person Elvis's very self who made us come here from around the globe, made millions love him no matter what their cultures,religions,upbringings are,and became a hope and a source of happiness for all those people and only put smiles on their faces while this world is full of hate,killing,pain,intrigues..isn't the picture he painted in this place ROSE enough..while the real darkness is untouchable,unquestionable, what falses we are trying not to miss or detect in his personality,this is ridiculous and an empty work..well, I don't need those glasses to see the tons of rose in Elvis..


    Just beautiful Zey, thank you for your words.

    Hugs,
    Kimmi

  10. #30
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    As others have essentially said, to me the wearing of rose-colored glasses implies a refusal to see the truth or some inability to acknowledge it. In my opinion those who wear them cannot admit that they do.

    There is something else that many of us fans do which is probably more along the lines of what is being asked about here. We do see the positive side of things--like the CBS special Elvis In Concert, for example, and we see those things even if they are masked in negative elements (which we don't deny, by the way).

    We also like some lame songs and lame movies which we would certainly ignore if they featured anyone else, and it might not even be the case that Elvis made them good. He just made them, therefore we think they have merit.

    But to me all of this is just what being a fan is all about. It's kind of like unconditional love; it's not a matter of not seeing a person's faults but a matter of those things not making you dislike that person. And in the case of being an Elvis fan I think many feel that the faults, those humanizing traits really add to the appeal.

    Those who do not see the complete truth wherever it makes itself available don't understand what they are missing. If they can't take the glasses off maybe some green contacts would do the trick.
    ...you won't forget me when I go.

  11. #31
    Beautifully said Lonnie......thank you

    Diane

  12. #32
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    Well thank you, Diane.
    ...you won't forget me when I go.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Lonniebealestreet View Post
    As others have essentially said, to me the wearing of rose-colored glasses implies a refusal to see the truth or some inability to acknowledge it. In my opinion those who wear them cannot admit that they do.

    There is something else that many of us fans do which is probably more along the lines of what is being asked about here. We do see the positive side of things--like the CBS special Elvis In Concert, for example, and we see those things even if they are masked in negative elements (which we don't deny, by the way).

    We also like some lame songs and lame movies which we would certainly ignore if they featured anyone else, and it might not even be the case that Elvis made them good. He just made them, therefore we think they have merit.

    But to me all of this is just what being a fan is all about. It's kind of like unconditional love; it's not a matter of not seeing a person's faults but a matter of those things not making you dislike that person. And in the case of being an Elvis fan I think many feel that the faults, those humanizing traits really add to the appeal.

    Those who do not see the complete truth wherever it makes itself available don't understand what they are missing. If they can't take the glasses off maybe some green contacts would do the trick.
    Good...no, GREAT post Lonnie...you said it all!

    Daddy, I miss you more every day. You will always be my hero..

  14. #34
    I used to own a paired, few years, that's was in early 1980's. My mother had them long time
    from 1968 to early 90's, I used my liked as Sunglasses more
    TOM

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Lonniebealestreet View Post
    As others have essentially said, to me the wearing of rose-colored glasses implies a refusal to see the truth or some inability to acknowledge it. In my opinion those who wear them cannot admit that they do.

    There is something else that many of us fans do which is probably more along the lines of what is being asked about here. We do see the positive side of things--like the CBS special Elvis In Concert, for example, and we see those things even if they are masked in negative elements (which we don't deny, by the way).

    We also like some lame songs and lame movies which we would certainly ignore if they featured anyone else, and it might not even be the case that Elvis made them good. He just made them, therefore we think they have merit.

    But to me all of this is just what being a fan is all about. It's kind of like unconditional love; it's not a matter of not seeing a person's faults but a matter of those things not making you dislike that person. And in the case of being an Elvis fan I think many feel that the faults, those humanizing traits really add to the appeal.

    Those who do not see the complete truth wherever it makes itself available don't understand what they are missing. If they can't take the glasses off maybe some green contacts would do the trick.

    2 simple words - that really explains it all: UNCONDITIONAL LOVE

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Lonniebealestreet View Post
    As others have essentially said, to me the wearing of rose-colored glasses implies a refusal to see the truth or some inability to acknowledge it. In my opinion those who wear them cannot admit that they do.

    There is something else that many of us fans do which is probably more along the lines of what is being asked about here. We do see the positive side of things--like the CBS special Elvis In Concert, for example, and we see those things even if they are masked in negative elements (which we don't deny, by the way).

    We also like some lame songs and lame movies which we would certainly ignore if they featured anyone else, and it might not even be the case that Elvis made them good. He just made them, therefore we think they have merit.

    But to me all of this is just what being a fan is all about. It's kind of like unconditional love; it's not a matter of not seeing a person's faults but a matter of those things not making you dislike that person. And in the case of being an Elvis fan I think many feel that the faults, those humanizing traits really add to the appeal.

    Those who do not see the complete truth wherever it makes itself available don't understand what they are missing. If they can't take the glasses off maybe some green contacts would do the trick.
    Very Well Said Lonnie.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by ksimms2 View Post
    2 simple words - that really explains it all: UNCONDITIONAL LOVE
    BRAVO...my friend!

    Daddy, I miss you more every day. You will always be my hero..

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by marijaep View Post
    Well,
    Yes, I own one pair of the 'Rose Colored Glasses', but I wear them occasionally lol.
    It's not that I refuse to see the bad stuff and see only the good....
    Elvis had a bad side of his life, but I don't really want to discuss it, i mean what's the point? He did, what he did and if it's bad, it's OK! He was a human being after all.
    It's always good to look on the good side of the people(not only Elvis, everyone) and not concentrate always on the bad. Because if you search for perfection, you will never find it.
    Yes, i like discussing about his medication addiction, he being depressed and so, but there are always HAPPIER stuff to discuss

    hugs ,

    Marija

    couldn't agree more with you!! i don't really own a pair, and i accept Elvis' bad points, because that made him human.
    However, i prefer to dwell on the good points! its not that i don't think he has bad points, but i think that you should always look to the good side of people. i hope i'm making sense

    xxxxxx
    I've got those hup, two, three, four, occupation G.I. Blues, From my G.I. hair to the heels of my G.I. shoes

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Jailhouse-Rocker View Post
    couldn't agree more with you!! i don't really own a pair, and i accept Elvis' bad points, because that made him human.
    However, i prefer to dwell on the good points! its not that i don't think he has bad points, but i think that you should always look to the good side of people. i hope i'm making sense

    xxxxxx

    Yep lol, you are making sense
    Thanks!



    Marija

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    Wearing rose coloured glasses to me is someone who refuses to see the bad side of anything.....just won't look at it at all.

    I see the bad side but don't want to dwell on it, I'd rather concentrate on the good side so maybe mine are slightly tinted?

    Diane
    Not just not being able to see anything bad in their object of
    obsession/affection, but to also be in denial about not seeing
    anything bad and to make up excuses for anything bad that
    others may mention. Like the old timers here may remember,
    I became a fan through my older sister. She's a rose colored
    glass wearer, whereas I'm not. I remember being a teenager
    and us watching the CBS concert together. Neither of us
    had seen any recent material of him (we live in The Netherlands)
    so the last physical impression we had of him was "Aloha from
    Hawaii". I immediately said something like "Whoa, what the
    heck is wrong with him? His face is so bloated and what's up
    with his eyes?" Yet, my sister only said "He MAY HAVE gained
    a few pounds.".......
    When she saw pictures of him in his last year in the
    newspaper, after he died, she - at first - told me emphatically:
    "No, you're wrong, that's not him. That's an impersonator!"
    She was quite literally stunned when she began to realize
    how much he had changed since Aloha, and that often old
    stock photos were used for album covers etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lonniebealestreet View Post
    As others have essentially said, to me the wearing of rose-colored glasses implies a refusal to see the truth or some inability to acknowledge it. In my opinion those who wear them cannot admit that they do.



    There is something else that many of us fans do which is probably more along the lines of what is being asked about here. We do see the positive side of things--like the CBS special Elvis In Concert, for example, and we see those things even if they are masked in negative elements (which we don't deny, by the way).



    We also like some lame songs and lame movies which we would certainly ignore if they featured anyone else, and it might not even be the case that Elvis made them good. He just made them, therefore we think they have merit.



    But to me all of this is just what being a fan is all about. It's kind of like unconditional love; it's not a matter of not seeing a person's faults but a matter of those things not making you dislike that person. And in the case of being an Elvis fan I think many feel that the faults, those humanizing traits really add to the appeal.



    Those who do not see the complete truth wherever it makes itself available don't understand what they are missing. If they can't take the glasses off maybe some green contacts would do the trick.
    Exactly. And besides: all round perfection usually is very boring.
    Last edited by Cherokee; 09-08-2007 at 09:38 AM.

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