Reply With QuoteNahh, banned for what?
You are as polite as can be, in the context.
Kim
Excuse me if I don't call you father Conor because you ain't my daddy and in my Bible, God is the father and you ain't God either. That post wasn't necessarily directed to you but for others as well. Oh and tell Miss Clawdy or whatever her name is, I didn't say anything about doing these things to get praise. I never said that. Remarkable how someone can enfer their own thoughts as someone elses. Imagine how Jesus feels that people are more interested in this news group than in what he has to say. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he that talked about feeding the poor, clothing the naked? Oh yes, and you can't serve two masters. That's a good one. Think about it. The one that I like, "where two or more are gathered in my name". I didn't see anything about being gathered in "Elvis'" name. Oh, this post will be deleted and I will be banned but that's no dust off my shoes. I know who I am. Oh Conor, did you know that "Elvis" didn't like to wear underwear because he sweated so much in his crotch that he would get blisters on the insides of his legs.Originally Posted by Elvis_Priestly
Erm just checking did you both read beyond the first paragraph?
So saying we should be open minded enough to question the received wisdom and give Elvis the dignity he deserves is uncaring?
To support this with facts from people who base their conclusions on more than anecdotes and whose professional conclusions contradict the "Elvis killed himself with drugs" line is wrong?
This is only conjecture though as its hard to figure out what you are both objecting to in the midst of your sermons on caring for people. If I may be so bold as to add "you're preaching to the convertor" on that one.
Nahh, banned for what?
You are as polite as can be, in the context.
Kim
That was a real mean post EFriend, totally disrespectful and uncalled for!
Diane
I have to disagree with you Kim on this one. I think the good caring people on this site vastly outweigh the few who are just here to brag about themselves or to cause trouble.
I don't post behind closed doors and I'm not afraid of backlash. I have begun to believe that there are people here that are deliberately trying to break this site in order to draw members to their own or to a favorite of theirs but it's not going to happen. I'm not falling for that and I'm not budging!
Diane
Dearest Diane,
I agree with you with regard to the good caring people, they are definately in the majority; moreover, it was lovely that this place had a nice tone for some weeks, while some people were quiet, (whom you mention) the place buzzed, and has now sadly, changed again. Hopefully briefly.
I'm not afraid of backlash either, obviously; however, everyone is different, grows, or changes, that doesn't matter to me, I love " 'em" anyway.
I don't know what you are talking about re another site; (there is one I just thought of, they don't have ANY arguments, which sounds wonderful to me) however, there are a lot of new younger members here, who are very special people, along with a lot of others who are "older" lol. I am blessed to have them as friends, and I'm not shy in letting them know!
Regards,
Kim
Thank you Conor and KPM for sharing your posts, sad but interesting to read. My father died at the age of 44 of sudden cardiac death in his sleep, he never had a heart problem before and his "drugs" were cigarettes, coffee and stress. So I am inclined to accept Elvis could have died of a heart desease. And if not, I don't judge or accuse him of anything.
To EFriend - whose posts have disappeared - I think this here is TCB World, where Elvis fans meet, it might be possible that somebody talks about Elvisand if you want to care about your fellow men or to donate to flood victims you can do it. For my part I think that there's no need to always show off with our good deeds.
Hiya Miss Clawdy,
I'm so sorry to hear about your father, I truely am.
However, what you refer to, wasn't what was said in the context of your reply, you misunderstood.
With all due respect, there ISN'T enough care in the world, because our priorities, generally and broadly speaking, as human beings, s*ck. How many people walk past others and do nothing?
We are fighting too much, that was the context, of the comment, which was wise, said with empathy and compassion.
The comment, was saying "hey folks, wake up, look at the bigger picture".
People should speak up when there are injustices, people should also speak up and share the bigger picture, to put things back into prospective, and to stop the arguing and negativity and think about what is important - our fellow man, making him feel loved and welcomed.
There is a lot to learn from people who share this message, remember Elvis? What would he say?
Yes, this is an Elvis board, why don't we take on his message?
Remember "walk in another man's shoes......"?
Take care,
Kim
P.S. I am very guilty of fighting, which is wrong, but I too, just get sooo frustrated, so I am taking heed of this well meaning advice
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Is that the same book written by Rose Clyton and Dick Heard "Elvis by those who knew him best"?
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Hiya Miss Clawdy,
I'm so sorry to hear about your father, I truely am.
However, what you refer to, wasn't what was said in the context of your reply, you misunderstood.
With all due respect, there ISN'T enough care in the world, because our priorities, generally and broadly speaking, as human beings, s*ck. How many people walk past others and do nothing?
We are fighting too much, that was the context, of the comment, which was wise, said with empathy and compassion.
The comment, was saying "hey folks, wake up, look at the bigger picture".
People should speak up when there are injustices, people should also speak up and share the bigger picture, to put things back into prospective, and to stop the arguing and negativity and think about what is important - our fellow man, making him feel loved and welcomed.
There is a lot to learn from people who share this message, remember Elvis? What would he say?
Remember "walk in another man's shoes......"?
Take care,
Kim
P.S. I am very guilty of fighting, which is wrong, but I too, just get sooo frustrated, so I am taking heed of this well meaning adviceKim,
thank you for your kind words.
It's quite possible that I misunderstand something that has been written, as you know that english is not my first language. And it's even more probable that I express something in a mistakable way, I apologize for that.
Believe me I know about the lack of care in the world and I agree with you therein. But I don't know what EFriend's post has to do with Elvis or with what Conor has said in his post.
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Originally Posted by EFriend View Post
This should settle it, it's over. Now if people would put their energy in the important things in life.
By this I mean, who is dead, who is alive and how you spend so much energy in finding this out.
People are dying every day because of starvation, disease, etc. Peopel are put out of their homes by
disasters. We should help one another. No one is better than any other. The greatest gift is to help
yuor fellow brother/sister in need. The things you argue about are meaningless. It's life you need to
be concerned with. When you are dead it is too late. It's a wonderful feeling to help someone. Put
yourself in their shoes. Help someone feel good and feel good yourself. Stop the arguing. Millions
without homes because of flooding. Whether you you believe it or not these are your brothers and sisters. We are all in this together. Care for your fellow man and stop worrying about senselesss things like who took what drugs and are they alive. Ok, I said what I wanted to say. I'll leave you alone. Please just think about it.
Adios,
Take care and God Bless
He tells us that we all are occupied with irrelevant meaningless nonsense instead of taking care of our brothers and sisters in need....
We could start to philosophize on what is important and meaningful in life...that's why I said this is an Elvis site.
I love Elvis the man, his music, how he was, I don't have a problem with anything he did even if there were many sad things too, I can't see anything negative if we are talking about his prescprition drugs addiction, he had his reasons why he took them although I don't think he needed them.
The comment, was saying "hey folks, wake up, look at the bigger picture".
Why do I have to say this after reading a post which tells me that Elvis might have died a natural death???
Finally I don't think we are fighting, we are all expressing our opinions
Huh? Really I have no idea what you Efriend and Jess are talking about and how it possibly has any relevance to the topic.
Jess really:
Polite? Respectful?
What in the name of all that's decent and respectful has that got to do with anything?
And whats all that nonsense about "father"? I've never ever asked, let alone expected, anyone here to call me "father." Some do and some don't and it's entirely their choice. I'm here to discuss Elvis, and when I need or want lessons in "caring" etc. etc. I'll go to a priest's forum.
Well cheers, read my first post for this topic and maybe see that's exactly what I was doing and suggesting we all do. As far as arguing and negativity are concerned there are only two who have engaged in that in this thread and that's yourself Jess and Efriend, for absolutely no reason whatsoever, and if you've both had reason I wish you'd tell us what it is.
As for Efriend, it takes more than a date of birth in a profile and "knowing" mysterious comments to make (most) people think you're Elvis. Why not try something he was renowned for and still remembered for by his fans who mourn his passing - wit, intelligence and good manners.
If he was still alive probably, "Sheesh, not another one!"
Yes its by Rose Clayton and Dick Heard published in 94.
I have indeed read you first initial post and agree people have already made their mind up regarding how Elvis died! There is a general mind set that Elvis died of an overdouse..... I do not believe this is the case. Elvis did indeed have ailments that required the necessity to take prescribed medication, however I also believe that some of the ailments to which Elvis suffered were brought on or were contributed to by taking medication that was used for therapeutic purposes.
I would like to apologise for the behaver of those who:-
a) Did not read your post or
b) Simply did not understand the content
I agree there are those who participate on this message board who are quick to judge!
Precisely.
Elvis died of a heart attack, the major contributing factor of which was polypharmacy.
End ... of ... STORY!
OK, thank you. That?s a good read indeed, read it twice time ago.
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I think you and I are going to have to agree to disagree. As I have posted before there is not a universal agreement among the original people involved that polypharmcy is what caused the attack. The independent labs who have reviewed the toxicology reports could not agree from what I have read. Also this review of these reports done in 94 which (Conor mentions in his original post) says it was not polypharmacy. This review was done by a top man in this field as Conor points out. The Doctors quoted in the book "Elvis Up Close" who also reviewed the reports said it was not polypharmacy. They gave compelling medical reasons as to why it could not be. So for me its not the end of story. If it is for you thats fine, you see it as you see it. But respectifully we'll have agree to disagree.
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Jess, why are you saying Dearest Franny?? I'm not on this thread!
franny
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