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    Quote Originally Posted by EP75 View Post
    Anything the Mafia says should be taken with a huge grain of salt. They have changed their stories more times than Bush has gone to war with Iraq.

    Actually, they've all stayed pretty consistent with the "self-harming himself to get more drugs" statement.

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    Tony don't take this the wrong way The only problem i have is this. Elvis' Autopsy report is supposed to be locked away and not to be published for 50 years so there is still another 20 to go.I've seen reports of how Elvis is supposed to have died.I'm not saying they're not true but if the officicial report hasn't been published where is this information coming from? to me this is all hearsay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary1 View Post
    Tony don't take this the wrong way The only problem i have is this. Elvis' Autopsy report is supposed to be locked away and not to be published for 50 years so there is still another 20 to go.I've seen reports of how Elvis is supposed to have died.I'm not saying they're not true but if the officicial report hasn't been published where is this information coming from? to me this is all hearsay.


    No offense taken. It's all so confusing to me, too. I guess we'll just have to wait until 2027 to see what the report says.....although something tells me that we may never know the exact cause of Elvis's death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Trout View Post
    No, Kathy began working for Elvis on August 16, 1970....exactly seven years to the day before he died.
    If that's the case then she would have been working with him during the August Summer Festival that was filmed for That's The Way It Is. But she wasn't in it or with the show at that time. Maybe she joined after the engagement when he went on tour in September. But this is away from the topic to begin with. I just know that she claims that he told her that and wanted to add that. That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Trout View Post
    Actually, they've all stayed pretty consistent with the "self-harming himself to get more drugs" statement.
    Them talking about it publicly as they have over and over (truth or not) just goes to show how they werent loyal to him and stabbed him in the back. This is why I agree with what Lisa says about them.

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    Back to the question..... If you get a program called WinMX on the net, it's free. You can download it for free. When you get the program up and running just type in "Elvis Rapid City" or "Elvis Omaha " and you'll get them, outtakes and all. But the sound, sucks. Cool anyway though. Then you can see how peacemeal the televised one is and the great stuff they left out and should've included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Trout View Post
    Actually, they've all stayed pretty consistent with the "self-harming himself to get more drugs" statement.

    Very true Tony, good post !!!

    Reality bites hard for some people who can't handle the "truth" ...

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    Reason of Death

    The autopsy repport will be open to the public domain in 2027. That's what the Court of Tennessee have said.

    For wich reason 50 years after ??

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    The Memphis mafia weren't the only ones to claim that Elvis used to hurt himself in order to get more drugs ...

    Some people should actually educate themselves and learn the facts before making false erroneous assumptions!
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    Of all the things to be revealed about Elvis' personal life I find that facet of his life most disturbing.It's a shame that somebody as special as he was sank to that level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EP75 View Post
    EP should have never even been on tour in June 1977. In my opinion it was his killer tour schedule that did him in. Not the drugs. They added but the colonel not letting him stop did it.
    I agree with that.... but didn't Elvis want to perform more to pay for his ever growing personal expenses?

    The dvd is great by the way. The quality of the CBS Special part is really good, and from the outtakes (the more or less complete recordings) are reasonably good. But better than most of the material currently circulating.

    When I first heard the CBS Special I thought that Elvis was still really good in 1977 and that an Elvisshow rocked. Then I saw the special and was unpleasantly suprised: Elvis looke really out of shape, sick and overweighed.

    Then I saw the outtakes and I was shocked: the full concert, unedited wasn't that great. The inbetween talking was weird and looked more like mumbling and his movement (formely known as the karatekicks) during fast songs was like a parody.

    I still admire him, but compared to other 42-year old artists with evenly as many performances a year, the shows Elvis did after 1975 weren't solid anymore. Too short, too much of the same songs and the introductions of his band were becoming way too long.

    Taking time off wouldn't solve the problems: just look at how many time-off Elvis had in 1975 to 1977: sometimes months in a row. And after the break, Elvis returned heavier and without having done a rehearsal with the band for any new songs.

    And unfortunately this dvd proofs me horribly right....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert View Post
    I agree with that.... but didn't Elvis want to perform more to pay for his ever growing personal expenses?
    The reason that Elvis was onstage at all in 1977 when he should have had himself in the hospital was purely financial reasons...he had to tour to keep the money coming in...he was almost broke by the time he died on August 16, 1977.

    I find the CBS outtakes very painful to watch, especially the ones from Omaha...he's struggling so bad for his words and the introductions of the band are heartbreaking to watch.....and ithe way the whole special wound up being edited just ticks me off because of the camera angles used during some songs where it looks like the audience is laughing at him when he does his karate moves (for example, "You Gave Me A Mountain").

    The only reason the special was even filmed was because CBS waved $750,000.00 worth of that green stuff we call money in under Colonel Parker's nose and he went for it like a dog after a bone.

    The CBS special should have never happened...he should have taken time off after that June tour and gotten himself in shape but....alas.....it wasn't to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Trout View Post
    The reason that Elvis was onstage at all in 1977 when he should have had himself in the hospital was purely financial reasons...he had to tour to keep the money coming in...he was almost broke by the time he died on August 16, 1977.

    I find the CBS outtakes very painful to watch, especially the ones from Omaha...he's struggling so bad for his words and the introductions of the band are heartbreaking to watch.....and ithe way the whole special wound up being edited just ticks me off because of the camera angles used during some songs where it looks like the audience is laughing at him when he does his karate moves (for example, "You Gave Me A Mountain").
    You noticed that to? I also that that there were shots where it looks for sure that people laughed at him.

    Accepting the CBS Special as a good show would be wrong. Sure there are some great highlights and Elvis still had that undefinable magic, but watching the unedited version makes it even more clear that Elvis would pass away two months later.
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    You have to take late-period Elvis for what he was and what he still could do. Never mind the mumbling and his physical shape, he could still sing and had a loveable personality.

    I don't think the tour in June was the only problem - the entire schedule for 1976 was exhausting too.

    What I like about Elvis is that he had this magic (as a musician) some race drivers had; watching and hearing him do his favorite songs in the 70's had this mortality to it, the same way Gilles Villeneuve and Ayrton Senna were mortal, but magic drivers. Dancing with death is what makes Elvis extra interesting. I don't blame him for living the way he did, I'm sure he had his reasons and that he was a very lonely person.

    I suppose some popes have this mortality. John Paul II was almost drained physically, but this conviction until death made the people respect him some more in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert View Post
    You noticed that to? I also that that there were shots where it looks for sure that people laughed at him.

    Yes, that was actually one of the very first things that caught my eye when watching the special....it's so "in your face" and it's not easy to miss...the editors could have done a heck of a lot better job of editing the show than they did....they basically made Elvis look like a laughingstock to the world...of course, Elvis wasn't much help with all the stuff he was taking during that time...he's so "out of it" for the Omaha show that it becomes embarrassing to watch it at certain points...thank God he did a little better in Rapid City, SD two days later and he seemed to be more "at" himself....but you could still see the wheels were starting to come apart and they would finally fall off less than two months later......


    Quote Originally Posted by Albert View Post
    Accepting the CBS Special as a good show would be wrong. Sure there are some great highlights and Elvis still had that undefinable magic, but watching the unedited version makes it even more clear that Elvis would pass away two months later.

    I honestly don't think that anybody (much less Elvis himself) could have forseen the tragic events that were to take place less than six weeks later....and leave a void in the music world that no one has been able to fill....
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    Promoters were betting on how long it would be before Elvis was gone, so evidently there was some feelings within the music business world that something was seriously wrong.

    I have to agree with Albert's statements almost whole-heartedly. I might also pose a question, before we throw all the blame on Colonel Parker for putting Elvis in a bad position. Is it possible Parker saw the special as something to motivate and challenge Elvis? This had worked in the past, and it had been awhile since Elvis had appeared on television. Obviously, Elvis was in much different shape than he was in 1973, but maybe this was partially a misguided attempt at motivating Elvis to get clean and in better shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menwithbrokenhearts View Post
    Back to the question..... If you get a program called WinMX on the net, it's free. You can download it for free. When you get the program up and running just type in "Elvis Rapid City" or "Elvis Omaha " and you'll get them, outtakes and all. But the sound, sucks. Cool anyway though. Then you can see how peacemeal the televised one is and the great stuff they left out and should've included.

    <<Just quickly off toopic>> I Had this programme and my computer got taken over with so much viruses from it, it cost about ?200 to get fixed ! Just warning you..be careful


    I would love to see these outtakes, Elvis had such a way with people at his concerts..amazing

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    magic

    Is there anyone who agrees with me on the mortality aspect? I'm aware most probably don't know great race drivers (comparing mortality and magic to music), but some songs from the 70's are magic because I can hear death in them. I hear it in 'The Last Farewell', 'Danny Boy' and of course with some of his songs on stage.

    Elvis is the more charming because he didn't look perfect in everything - he didn't have a way of telling the world he was the most moral person ever, like a Pharisee - it's like being married to Elvis' music - not only the good times, but also sickness, worry, sadness and death come shining through and it takes a good musician to do that, doesn't it?
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