A question for the experts-Album covers

[Leroy]

The picture on the album sleeve of "Aloha from Hawaii" was taken on April 6th, Detroit, Michigan.

[Leroy]

RCA did a lot of enhancing for the album covers. On the album "Frankie & Johnny" they took away Elvis present face and replaced it with an earlier picture. You can see that on the pictures I have posted below. First you see a picture taken in 1964 as a promo for "Girl Happy". It is this picture that was also used to fabricate the "F & J" picture. So it was already done in the sixties.

The picture on "Today" is showing a July 1973 picture (taken in Nassau) and this one was also enhanced. Again the chain area was reworked and they took away a little bit off the waist.

Another "make over" job was done on the picture of "From Elvis Presley Boulevard". The cutted out Elvis much sharper than he was. Apparently the record company decided it was better to show the public an Elvis they thought we ought to see instead of the real one. This policy has now been taken over by EPE.

[jak]

It is indeed June 1st 1975, I'm certain that the photo's were taken by George Hill?

I could be wrong but I believe only the photo's taken by Bonja were used on the lp's.He was Tom Diskin's nephew and had the inside track.
Jak

[srj1967]

The picture on the album sleeve of "Aloha from Hawaii" was taken on April 6th, Detroit, Michigan.

From where did this info come?

[Leroy]

From where did this info come?

By comparing pictures from various April 1972 pictures. It can't be San Antonio because his hair was different there. During the San Antonio show he had a separation in his hair and it stayed pretty well during the show. In Detroit his hair was longer and more messy. It was already that way when he entered the stage.
Below you'll find a few other pictures from the same Detroit show. The last picture is from San Antonio.

[srj1967]

By comparing pictures from various April 1972 pictures. It can't be San Antonio because his hair was different there.

Sorry, but that's not exactly conclusive proof, is it? Besides, he's moving rapidly in the Aloha cover pic. If there are pictures from the concert taken at roughly the same time or at the same angle, then maybe we could compare ...

[Leroy]

Yeah, right!

[ajr]

By comparing pictures from various April 1972 pictures. It can't be San Antonio because his hair was different there. During the San Antonio show he had a separation in his hair and it stayed pretty well during the show. In Detroit his hair was longer and more messy. It was already that way when he entered the stage.
Below you'll find a few other pictures from the same Detroit show. The last picture is from San Antonio.

I can see the difference ......Thanks, Leroy
You've got a good eye.

If only more of us had your talent,
you wouldn't have to work so hard.

[toffe]

Thank you for info about the Aloha cover everyone

[Leroy]

I can see the difference ......Thanks, Leroy
You've got a good eye.

If only more of us had your talent,
you wouldn't have to work so hard.

Thank you AJR. The hard working is not so bad. In fact, it can be very rewarding sometimes. But it is the way some people are responding to it. All the time I have to be the one to prove I'm right. Maybe it's about time for others to prove me wrong. It doesn't seem to matter if I use pictures or statements; it's always unsubstantial. Funny thing is that the people who are claiming this are always the ones who do not come up with something substantial themselves.

[ajr]

Thank you AJR. The hard working is not so bad. In fact, it can be very rewarding sometimes. But it is the way some people are responding to it. All the time I have to be the one to prove I'm right. Maybe it's about time for others to prove me wrong. It doesn't seem to matter if I use pictures or statements; it's always unsubstantial. Funny thing is that the people who are claiming this are always the ones who do not come up with something substantial themselves.

Boy, I can agree with that one !!
Some cry proof; but never do that themselves......Kinda like authors & coluimnists..... Whatever sells.....no matter the truth or the sleeziness ....

[srj1967]

Thank you AJR. The hard working is not so bad. In fact, it can be very rewarding sometimes. But it is the way some people are responding to it. All the time I have to be the one to prove I'm right. Maybe it's about time for others to prove me wrong. It doesn't seem to matter if I use pictures or statements; it's always unsubstantial. Funny thing is that the people who are claiming this are always the ones who do not come up with something substantial themselves.

******** and snide comments aside, is this enough proof for you?

I emailed Ed Bonja, the man who took the photo on the original Aloha album. Here is his reply, which I only just received:

Hi Scott,

I took that shot in San Antonio, Texas, on April 18, 1972.

I hope that helps!

Regards,

Ed

So, it's very possible (and now probable) that the pics listed in other sources as April 6th are from April 18th, hence the similarity of Elvis in the various shots ...

Oh, and if anyone doubts the above email reply is authentic, feel free to get on the internet and find Ed Bonja yourselves and email him. Took me all of five minutes.

[thehillbillycat]

Photo on the cover of Aloha From Hawaii is indeed from April 6, 1972 in Detroit, MI.
Info of photos that was used on album covers is found in one of my books. It says that it is commonly known that photo was taken on another date April 18, 1972 in San Antonio, TX but it was found out that it was really taken on April 6.

[ajr]

Photo on the cover of Aloha From Hawaii is indeed from April 6, 1972 in Detroit, MI.
Info of photos that was used on album covers is found in one of my books. It says that it is commonly known that photo was taken on another date April 18, 1972 in San Antonio, TX but it was found out that it was really taken on April 6.

Thank you very much.....some do research anyway.

[srj1967]

Photo on the cover of Aloha From Hawaii is indeed from April 6, 1972 in Detroit, MI.
Info of photos that was used on album covers is found in one of my books. It says that it is commonly known that photo was taken on another date April 18, 1972 in San Antonio, TX but it was found out that it was really taken on April 6.

Which book? Source? See my thread re email reply from photographer Ed Bonja ...

[toffe]

I think Ed Knows best where the photo was taken

[ajr]

Well, I guess we could email Ed Bonja & see.....however, I doubt he'll be sitting around waiting to answer anyones questions....

This might explain some errors:
http://home.online.no/~ov-egela/shotbonja.html

[jak]

Well, I guess we could email Ed Bonja & see.....however, I doubt he'll be sitting around waiting to answer anyones questions....

This might explain some errors:
http://home.online.no/~ov-egela/shotbonja.html

I believe SRJ emailed Bonja and has already got his response.He copied the reply above.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

Well, I guess we could email Ed Bonja & see.....however, I doubt he'll be sitting around waiting to answer anyones questions....

This might explain some errors:
http://home.online.no/~ov-egela/shotbonja.html

Thank you for posting this link ajr, this would certainly explain a lot!

I believe SRJ emailed Bonja and has already got his response.He copied the reply above.

From reading the link ajr posted it would seem that Ed Bonja could of taken a picture yesterday and still got the date wrong, surely he would have had some input into the information provided for this publication?

I don't doubt that he has given us many great pictures but his memory is probably not as sharp as it could be??

[Leroy]

Although I have the greatest respect for people like Ed Bonja, who provided us with perfect examples of his work the picture was taken more that 30 years ago. He probably doesn't go over his files everyday like some of us do. He will also never see the need to study them day after day, looking for details. He sees a picture someone is showing him, he will see the jumpsuit and draws a conclusion. I remember my conversation with wardrobe designer Bill Belew and suprisingly I was the one to correct him on certain things.

This doesn't not show my quality but the fact that the memory of the ones that were around Elvis could be fading after so many years and even more events.

In the picture Elvis is wearing the "White Pinwheel Suit". He wore that suit in Detroit, Roanoke, Macon but also in San Antonio. People will automaticly connect this suit with San Antonio because that performance will be forever linked with "Elvis on Tour". But on the picture his hair is bushy. It never, at any time during his San Antonio concert his hair was bushy, not even when he moved. This picture was taken during a wild number. There were only three real wild numbers during these shows; "Proud Mary", "Polk Salad Annie" and "Suspicious Minds" We do have "Proud Mary" as it can be seen in "OnTour". It couldn't be the other two songs because he would not wear a cape. Gentlemen. A picture doesn't lie. If you take the time to study it, it will tell you more than any statement. that comes 35 years after the date.

This discussion very much reminds me of the one about the "Gold Attendance Belt". All official instances were stating that Elvis received the belt on September 7th, 1970, right after the closing of his third Las Vegas season and just before going on his first national tour.
I even sended an email to Graceland Archives with photographic proof that Elvis received the belt on August 28th, 1969. But they repeated their point; Elvis received the belt in Sept. 1970. The fact that Elvis grew a few inches of sideburns within 48 hours was not proof.