Exciting Elvis Dvd News - Including The Debut (finally!) Of "this Is Elvis"!!!

[elvis himselvis]

thanks for your anwser JungleRoom76

[Jungleroom76]

My pleasure elvis himselvis, although I am sorry I couldn't report better news to you!!!

TCB!
Mike

[thehillbillycat]

EPE / MGM / RSPCA / whoever ...

It doesn't matter. An FTD-style limited release would definitely make money for everyone involved and give the fans what they want.

And TTWII and On Tour certainly can't be considered like the regular movies, most of which are - let's be honest - below par.

FTD will have to ask permission to used the footage. It will cost them money to used the footage of any of Elvis' movies. Why would they bother with footage of that they have to ask permission to used. They would release alternate footage of 68 and Aloha before they release EOT and TTWII outtakes. So let me make it clear again: FTD will have to ask permission to used the footage and it will cost them money for them to used the footage.

KPM - You are partly right on what you said here:
"The problem with releasing all the hours of outtakes for TTWII and EOT is that Warner feels they would have to restore then digitally remaster the footage and its very expensive. If you have seen on the internet the clips from either you see they are washed out and very dim looking. Some have no sound which has to be added during the restoration. Even in the TTWII Special Edition you can see in a few of the scenes very different in color tone and contrast. I guess they were added without any restoration."

But let me give you heads up on the footage. As you said some of the footage does have a different color. That is not how they are filmed or transfer or because they wasn't restored, they are getting that way because they are getting faded. Films will do that. They restored the films that was used in the special edition the best they can. So if the footage is faded on the film they can't do anything for that. Films can have many problems with them.

Films can actually get a disease or it is referred as a disease. Yes, you heard right. They can and the film in time would be ruin forever. The disease is call Vinegar Syndrome. This disease is a problem with filmmade with cellulose triacetate base, in which it degrades and releases a smell resembling that of vinegar; indeed, deteriorating triacetate film produces acetic acid. The process can be slowed with a molecular sieve, or by storing cool and dry in vented cans but is impossible to stop. For archival, films suffering from vinegar syndrome must be quarantinedand copied onto a medium not susceptible to the problem.

Another diesase will actually caused the film to turn red but it is not referred as a disease. So everything that is on the film will become a pinkish color and over time become red. This to is impossible to stop but the film doesn't have to be quarantined.

From what I heard, some of the footage of Elvis TTWII and EOT has vinegar syndrome. Some has also become faded just like Santa Claus Is Back In Town on the special edition. As I have said all films that has vinegar syndrome are copied for archival proposes only so a copy of the film is available. So the copy is a first generation copy. The DVDs of EOT and TTWII outtakes are either second or more generation for the most part.

The biggest problem is with 8mm films they can get vinegar syndrome real quick. So for those fans or members who has or knows someone who has concert footage. Take care of them. Keep them in your house where no heat can get to them what so ever. Films has to kept at room temperature.

[sam]

And,"Jailhouse Rock" & "Viva Las Vegas" will be the oldest movies to make it onto HD DVD and Blu ray come September. Thanks Warner for that...look forward to my Blu ray copies!!!

[thehillbillycat]

And,"Jailhouse Rock" & "Viva Las Vegas" will be the oldest movies to make it onto HD DVD and Blu ray come September. Thanks Warner for that...look forward to my Blu ray copies!!!

Rio Bravo will hold the oldest movie to be release on HD DVD until Jailhouse Rock is release. Jailhouse Rock is 1957, Rio Bravo is 1959 and Viva Las Vegas 1963. As for Bu Ray, it is the same as HD DVD. Rio Bravo will be the oldest until Jailhouse Rock is release.


EDITED: Jailhouse Rock still won't be the oldest movie. Out right now is The Adventures of Robin Hood from 1938. Casablanca from 1942 is out.

[sam]

ok got it a little wrong!!!

The King Swings onto Blu-ray


Posted May 16, 2007 by Josh


Warner Brothers Home Entertainment has announced that they will be releasing two classic Elvis Presley films on September 18th. 'Jailhouse Rock' and 'Viva Las Vegas' will both come on BD-25s, sporting VC-1 video encodes and Dolby Digital soundtracks. These represent some of the oldest films ever to be delivered in high definition, so it will be interesting to see how Warner does with their remastering techniques. SRP has been set at $28.99 for both.

Jailhouse Rock: In one of his best-loved films, Elvis Presley stars as a small-time convict who uses his time in prison to practice music, then goes on to become a big-time performer. Co-stars Judy Tyler and Dean Jones.

Viva Las Vegas: Elvis Presley and vivacious Ann-Margret sizzle in this dazzling funfest that's brimming with high-voltage musical numbers, roaring race cars and glittery Vegas action.

[thehillbillycat]

These represent some of the oldest films ever to be delivered in high definition,

The key word here is some. As I have said: The Adventures of Robin Hood from 1938 is out right now.

Casablanca from 1942 is also out. These are the oldest movies out right now.

Rio Bravo is coming out in June. This movie will be in third place until Jailhouse Rock comes out in September. When The Bridge on the River Kwai comes out which I just found out. It will knocked Jailhouse Rock in fourth place. The Bridge on the River Kwai was release a few weeks before Jailhouse Rock. The Bridge on the River Kwai was release Octiber 2, 1957 in the UK while Jailhouse Rock was release November 8, 1957 in the USA. It was release on the same day in the UK. The Bridge on the River Kwai was release in the USA in December. But movies original release date is the very first date even though it may be in another country or not.

[sam]

Already said I got it a little wrong!!!

[thehillbillycat]

Already said I got it a little wrong!!!

ok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KPM]

[QUOTE=Elvislennon2004;111914]

KPM - You are partly right on what you said here:
"
"But let me give you heads up on the footage. As you said some of the footage does have a different color. That is not how they are filmed or transfer or because they wasn't restored, they are getting that way because they are getting faded. Films will do that. They restored the films that was used in the special edition the best they can. So if the footage is faded on the film they can't do anything for that. Films can have many problems with them."

I fully understand it has nothing to do with how the film was filmed or transfered. It has to do with the aging of the negatives
(and not being preserved properly)
You are right about films having many problems which affect how they look over time, but many can be fixed. The original negatives of a number of acknowledged classics are no longer in existence, requiring preservationists to make completely new prints of such films as How Green Was My Valley (1941), The Ox-Bow Incident (1943), and all of the features of Shirley Temple, Will Rogers and Betty Grable.
"Gone With the Wind" was completely cleaned and restored a few years back. On the TNT movie channel they did a side by side comparison of the restored version and the unrestored version and it was amazing the color and detail which ahd been restored.
This was done by a film preservation society-The American Film Institute- which restores about 100 films each year. There are ways to bring back the zing in faded color films. But is very time consuming and expensive. Thats why only about 100 a year are done. In the old days film was hand restored-they would restore color and detail frame by frame. Now I understand they only have to hand restore a few frames then a computer can do the rest. Similar to how they colorize black and white films.
I think Warner knows we fans would buy the outtakes and extra scenes
"as is" but they want a much higher sales figure. Without some restoration,
they must feel they would not get those higher figures. So we will probably not see most of the stuff until demand goes way up or the restoration costs go down.

[thehillbillycat]

[quote=KPM;112703]

KPM - You are partly right on what you said here:
"
"But let me give you heads up on the footage. As you said some of the footage does have a different color. That is not how they are filmed or transfer or because they wasn't restored, they are getting that way because they are getting faded. Films will do that. They restored the films that was used in the special edition the best they can. So if the footage is faded on the film they can't do anything for that. Films can have many problems with them."

I fully understand it has nothing to do with how the film was filmed or transfered. It has to do with the aging of the negatives
(and not being preserved properly)
You are right about films having many problems which affect how they look over time, but many can be fixed. The original negatives of a number of acknowledged classics are no longer in existence, requiring preservationists to make completely new prints of such films as How Green Was My Valley (1941), The Ox-Bow Incident (1943), and all of the features of Shirley Temple, Will Rogers and Betty Grable.
"Gone With the Wind" was completely cleaned and restored a few years back. On the TNT movie channel they did a side by side comparison of the restored version and the unrestored version and it was amazing the color and detail which ahd been restored.
This was done by a film preservation society-The American Film Institute- which restores about 100 films each year. There are ways to bring back the zing in faded color films. But is very time consuming and expensive. Thats why only about 100 a year are done. In the old days film was hand restored-they would restore color and detail frame by frame. Now I understand they only have to hand restore a few frames then a computer can do the rest. Similar to how they colorize black and white films.
I think Warner knows we fans would buy the outtakes and extra scenes
"as is" but they want a much higher sales figure. Without some restoration,
they must feel they would not get those higher figures. So we will probably not see most of the stuff until demand goes way up or the restoration costs go down.

Yes, it is very true that the films How Green Was My Valley (1941), The Ox-Bow Incident (1943), and all of the features of Shirley Temple, Will Rogers and Betty Grable negatives are not existence anymore. They were destory along with other classics. As for bring color back to the films. Yes, some films have been restored perfectly but others hasn't. So you are looking at a 50 - 50 chance of being restored to it original form. Now they can perserve the films and its negatives. But for the movies that you mention it is too late. Only a few seconds of those films you name and thousands that you didn't exist now. Gone With The Wind is the classic beyond a classic because it was the first color film. Some will say that it has been colorized but it was film in color. The negative of Gone With The Wind and Wizard of Oz is kept in a place by themselves because of the fact they were the first color films.

[KPM]

[QUOTE=Elvislennon2004;112714]

Yes, it is very true that the films How Green Was My Valley (1941), The Ox-Bow Incident (1943), and all of the features of Shirley Temple, Will Rogers and Betty Grable negatives are not existence anymore. They were destory along with other classics. As for bring color back to the films. Yes, some films have been restored perfectly but others hasn't. So you are looking at a 50 - 50 chance of being restored to it original form. Now they can perserve the films and its negatives. But for the movies that you mention it is too late. Only a few seconds of those films you name and thousands that you didn't exist now. Gone With The Wind is the classic beyond a classic because it was the first color film. Some will say that it has been colorized but it was film in color. The negative of Gone With The Wind and Wizard of Oz is kept in a place by themselves because of the fact they were the first color films.

Luckily the films mentioned (even though the negatives were unusable) could still have new prints made by the work and restoration efforts of expert preservationist. Its amazing the things they can do. Each year the tools become better and hopefully someday it will be much less costly.

[KPM]

According to an update on the Japanese Elvis World site this is the track listing for the bonus tracks on the upcoming "That's The Way it Is" deluxe edition:

(Never-before Seen Outtakes) 47 minutes:

You Don't Have To Say You Love Me;
Eating Burgers;
Cattle Call;
Baby Let's Play House;
Don't;
Farther Along;
Oh Happy Day;
I Just Can't Help Believin';
Walk A Mile In My Shoes;
I've Lost You;
Sweet Caroline;
Little Sister;
Stranger In The Crowd;
Party Sequence.
Hasn't most of this been seen? Wasn't some of it in the original TTWII? Then again- maybe these are other filmed versions.

[Jungleroom76]

According to an update on the Japanese Elvis World site this is the track listing for the bonus tracks on the upcoming "That's The Way it Is" deluxe edition:

(Never-before Seen Outtakes) 47 minutes:

You Don't Have To Say You Love Me;
Eating Burgers;
Cattle Call;
Baby Let's Play House;
Don't;
Farther Along;
Oh Happy Day;
I Just Can't Help Believin';
Walk A Mile In My Shoes;
I've Lost You;
Sweet Caroline;
Little Sister;
Stranger In The Crowd;
Party Sequence.
Hasn't most of this been seen? Wasn't some of it in the original TTWII? Then again- maybe these are other filmed versions.

I was thinking the same thing when I first saw this list KPM...

But somewhere (I can't remember where right now) I saw a list of what bonus footage was supposedly going to be included on the original DVD release of TTWII - SE back in 2001 and there was a live version of STRANGER IN THE CROWD listed. Perhaps that is what is being listed here?

But looking over this list, I am wondering if the "never before seen outtakes" is simply an advertising gimmick to show potential buyers that there is a difference between the original 1970 version of TTWII and the 2000 special edition of TTWII? To the casual Elvis fan, they might be wondering why they should buy a 2 DVD set when both DVD's contain the same movie, but when it is advertised that the set contains "never before seen outtakes", technically the advertisers are right in that TTWII - SE does contain outtakes that were not seen in the original 1970 version. (They just wouldn't be outtakes that WE haven't seen before!)

Does that sound confusing??

TCB!
Mike

[Donut]

Weren?t all those outtakes in "The lost performances" ? Those outtakes sound very familiar to me... maybe I?m wrong but I think most of that was there.

[KPM]

I know "OH Happy Day" and "Farther Along" have not been on any official releases, but the rest of them(except the Live "Stranger in the Crowd")I'm pretty sure have been released before.

[thehillbillycat]

I know "OH Happy Day" and "Farther Along" have not been on any official releases, but the rest of them(except the Live "Stranger in the Crowd")I'm pretty sure have been released before.

Yea, they have been release officially on some of them but not in widescreen. If they are in widescreen they have been release like that before. But then again, I've Lost You and Walk A Mile In My Shoes could be from different shows.

Eating Burgers,
Farther Along,
Oh Happy Day,
Stranger In The Crowd

These hasn't been release before.

[Donut]

Some information about this on Elvis.com
http://www.elvis.com/elvisology/faq/faq.asp?qid=21

[KPM]

In the Special Edition TTWII 2000 there is a quick peek at Elvis and the band eating burgers -if I recall correctly-but it was a MTV type series of cuts to music.

[mn-designs]

I know "OH Happy Day" and "Farther Along" have not been on any official releases, but the rest of them(except the Live "Stranger in the Crowd")I'm pretty sure have been released before.

I think this material will be rehearsal footage, and finally in his complete form...but you'll never know what they may come up with..we just have to wait till the day the dvd's are released....
But i'm more looking forward to the this is elvis dvd...in great quality