understanding lisa

[MIElvis]

I never had much use for Lisa other than the fact that she was the child of a man I admired very much. That being said I really don't give a hoot about her.

[joanne]

Once again this was a nice peaceful thread until Jak started attacking Elvis again.
According to him Elvis should have been reported to social services as an unfit parent.
Priscilla was the unfit parent as she was that busy shagging her karate instructor to know what was going on with her daughter.
This is the woman who left Lisa Marie outside a shop on her own while she stayed inside for about half an hour and that happened in the seventies with photos to prove it.
It caused uproar at the time as she could have been kidnapped.
Priscilla is apparently at odds with lisa at the moment because of lisas comments about her early sex life as a teen.
the reason shes bothered is because it makes her look bad as a mother and proves that she wasnt looking out for her.
at least when she was a graceland she was always supervised and wasnt in any danger.
most importantly she knew she was loved and was shown warmth and affection which is something I`ve never seen priscilla show her.
go on jak defend plastic pris.

[Diane]

Ah Joanne, my sentiments exactly.

[Merry]

Once again this was a nice peaceful thread until Jak started attacking Elvis again.
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My sentiments, too.

[ajr]

He just can't seem to help himself......

I know there's a psychological explanation for that. To put down something or someone you profess to love .....
Psych.101 was too long ago ....

[ajr]

We hurt the one we love for several reasons:
1) Unconscious re-creation of emotional trauma - We all experience various degrees of emotional hurt and trauma growing up. Unfortunately, we form part of our identities around whatever we experience, be it love, distance, drama, or verbal or physical abuse. As adults, we may feel most alive or most like ourselves when we are feeling the same way we did as children, and so we may do things unconsciously to get others to trigger those feelings. For example, a person who grew up with a lot of distance may feel uncomfortable with closeness, and may sabotage it by picking fights or avoiding intimacy. Or a person who grew up in a chaotic, dramatic home may be uncomfortable with harmony and quiet and always seem to trigger chaos or drama in his/her relationships.

2) We lack the knowledge and skills of how to communicate our feelings constructively -

[Diane]

Yup, this thread has gone from understanding Lisa to understanding Jak.

Let's all give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Even though we don't like what someone else has to say, none of us really know what is going on inside each of us. I for one don't want to add to pain that someone else may be carrying.

Diane

[KPM]

Its funny once again a thread somehow slides into how bad or good Elvis was? We don't have to have Elvis's faults regurgatated at every stop to know he had them. We also don't need to be told the, opinion, that certain people were somehow blameless, faultless or better motivated in life- to know they very possible were not.
How many of you have seen the movie "12 Angry Men"?
SPOILER-11 men had it wrong-1 ended up being right. Each thought they had figured out the truth(or were swayed by some inner grudge or bigotry which twisted their opinion and thinking) one guy saw it for what it was. Point is they all saw the same evidence-thought they understood it and still missed the truth all but the one guy.
I will say this Elvis's voice and chrisma are what made me a fan. If the MM had not been in his circle IMO we would not know their names. The sole reason we are discussing them in any form is Elvis. IMO They are not to blame for the fall of Elvis but nor are they blameless. Elvis was the master of his ship but every ship needs a good crew. Could Elvis have been a better captain yes. Could he have had a more loyal crew yes.
Another good film is
"The Caine Mutiny." SPOILER -at the end a lawyer (who has just helped bring down a Captain of a ship) tells the officers under the captains command if you had helped when he needed it- it may have been a different story. Possible.

[Diane]

[elvislina]

I know cilla and lisa had few problems in their life too. but i think its like that when you are a teenager. but i sure think she had a hard time when elvis died too. i think elvis was a better parent somehow too because he seems to be more like lisa and understand her. but as a boy have learn me. dont believe in everything you hear or read. and even those paparazzi is lying out about all kind of stuff. i think lisa had troubles with cilla. but i dont still hate her. but lisa and cilla has exactly the same problems as me and my big sis has. me and my bbig sis has always had troubles too. so i think i know what lisa been through too. but i will never follow lisa haters too

[Diane]

Hate is a strong word. I never hated Priscilla, I just can't respect her for the way she got where she is.

[elvislina]

Hate is a strong word. I never hated Priscilla, I just can't respect her for the way she got where she is.

I agree. hate really is a big word. but we have to remember i think it was hard for her to not be famous and become one later. its not easy too elvis was a good looking man and each women would fall for him. its hard to not say no to him. we have to remember every human being do horrible mistakes in life and knowone is perfect. not either of us here either. we do things some isnt good. but we regret it inside.

[KPM]

Lisa is a product of environment, upbringing, and family genes, just like we all are and her behavoir (good or bad) has its roots in all three.
We are not all perfect people-we are not all clones who have exactly the same testtube beginning-and share exactly the same paths to adulthood with exactly the same tools to work with........but she has lived her life from 2-1-68 in a bubble-with flashcubes popping and detailed public accounts of her every move-IMO cut her some slack.......try to be understanding of territory none of us can imagine-let alone judge.

[Diane]

Lisa is a product of environment, upbringing, and family genes, just like we all are and her behavoir (good or bad) has its roots in all three.
We are not all perfect people-we are not all clones who have exactly the same testtube beginning-and share exactly the same paths to adulthood with exactly the same tools to work with........but she has lived her life from 2-1-68 in a bubble-with flashcubes popping and detailed public accounts of her every move-IMO cut her some slack.......try to be understanding of territory none of us can imagine-let alone judge.

I totally agree with you but I wish people would give her more credit. Her life wasn't easy and she has calmed down quite a lot in the last few years.She seems very happy with Michael and the twin...could that be the reason?

[KPM]

I totally agree with you but I wish people would give her more credit. Her life wasn't easy and she has calmed down quite a lot in the last few years.She seems very happy with Michael and the twin...could that be the reason?

Yes I think you have a good point-happiness and maturity sometimes go hand and hand.

[King Of The Whole World]

I totally agree with you but I wish people would give her more credit. Her life wasn't easy and she has calmed down quite a lot in the last few years.She seems very happy with Michael and the twin...could that be the reason?

I agree, she has a lot of good things in her life but it hasn't been all roses.

[debtdbruno]

I'm sure there's a lot of 'celebrity' kids who go off the deep end temporarily......too much time, money, and notoriety

[elvia7]

I totally agree with you but I wish people would give her more credit. Her life wasn't easy and she has calmed down quite a lot in the last few years.She seems very happy with Michael and the twin...could that be the reason?

I recently watch her ​​life. I like to think you're right Dee . Maybe Lisa finally found the dream life?

All the best LISA! You are our daughter ELVIS!

[alabama_sun]

It's true Lisa has had a tough and wild past, but I'm sure she isn't the only one and I was very happy to hear she's doing so well now and she's moved on from all the bad she had in her past, even though it has taken lots from her and must have been very difficult, but she's made it and I admire her for that. All who loves her are so proud of her. She's a lovely person once she opens the curtain as she has done now and I also love her new album. It shows how matured she is in every way now. I wish all the best for Lisa and her family

[J.P]

It's true Lisa has had a tough and wild past, but I'm sure she isn't the only one and I was very happy to hear she's doing so well now and she's moved on from all the bad she had in her past, even though it has taken lots from her and must have been very difficult, but she's made it and I admire her for that. All who loves her are so proud of her. She's a lovely person once she opens the curtain as she has done now and I also love her new album. It shows how matured she is in every way now. I wish all the best for Lisa and her family

you'r right Steffie. it can't be easy to be born under the public eye and having evrybody watching and criticizing her evry move esp when she didn't have much support in her teens. fortunately now things are much better for her