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    Elvis had that talent, so if he was born outside, he would be famous :-)
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    Til we meet you again, may God bless you, Adios.

  2. #22
    With out a doubt he would have been famous out side America, but it was not mean to be for him may be there was a reason for that. ( not the col)
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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpsuit Junkie View Post
    We will have to disagree on this, I don't doubt that Elvis is popular in Germany, but the second world war left a different culture to that of free America in the 50's, this would have had a big impact on the society of Germany!

    Please name a star of Elvis' calibre to rise to world superstardom from Germany?
    I have to agree, with you. Even though we all agree Elvis had a natural musical talent-could that talent have been grown anywhere but where he started? If he grew up in Germany would he have become a star in light opera? In France in musical theater etc...?
    The blues, country, and gospel were Southern United States born, he could not have blended them into his style if he was not in the center of that universe. He may have been a musical star if born somewhere else, but he would not have ended up as the greatest rock star in the world -IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by KPM View Post
    I have to agree, with you. Even though we all agree Elvis had a natural musical talent-could that talent have been grown anywhere but where he started? If he grew up in Germany would he have become a star in light opera? In France in musical theater etc...?
    The blues, country, and gospel were Southern United States born, he could not have blended them into his style if he was not in the center of that universe. He may have been a musical star if born somewhere else, but he would not have ended up as the greatest rock star in the world -IMO
    100% agreed, the universal language if we like it or not is English, for better or worse most countries understand English... Just because we understand English does not make us the same! our cultures are completely different, the dialect different etc.

    The USA is a huge country and the cultures within this part of the world differ from state to state let alone from country to country. Some things can unite us all for instance a "star".... but what influences them makes them who they ARE and how they relate to use

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    Smile Of course

    Of course he still would have made it! He?s something very special and no matter what would have happened - He?s still the greatest. (Or at least for me)

    But it?s still an interresting question!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jak View Post
    This is a good topic.One I've never thought of before.The way it happened for Elvis it just seems like the stage was set for him to emerge here in the states.Sun records.the Col,TV,RCA records and so on.It all seems to fit so perfectly.I think the greatest boost to Elvis was his timing.This country was waiting for someone like him with open arms.I kinda think Elvis at that time would have acvhieved noteriety no matter where he was.
    Jak
    agreed jak elvis was just to big to go unnoticed...and he came along at the right time.
    "How do I get placed in situations like this? Ah hell, I guess it's all part of showbusiness "~ Elvis in his limo on his way to perform in Omaha, NE on June 19th 1977

  7. #27
    Elvis was a uniquely American phenomenon.
    We're talking about the 1950's here. The only reason it's possible anywhere else now is because it happened in America then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teddy View Post
    Elvis was a uniquely American phenomenon.
    We're talking about the 1950's here. The only reason it's possible anywhere else now is because it happened in America then.
    Awww Teddy. You're gonna bring a tear to my eyes. I realize that you have a special place in your heart for my country, but you sentimental devil........*sob* *sob* *sob*

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by KPM View Post
    Thats a good question for sure. He was so influenced by things uniquely
    American- blues, gospel, and country western music-which started his musical search. But I think he had that inner chrisma which would have always attracted attention in any walk of life-wherever it may have been. If he would have become the world wide superstar he became with his American roots, I don't know.
    You are so right he WAS and still IS American pop music, as a UK Musician I have nothing but respect for the talent that has come out of the USA over the years, whatever musical talent that has ever come out of the rest of the world, be it Jazz, Country/Folk, Blues, RnR everyone else owes a big thankyou to the USA. (Check out most UK Lead Guitarists they all have American Heroes James Burton, Chet Atkins, Chuck Berry etc)....and Elvis's style, drawl,raw musical ability plus his looks were pure Americana,I am so grateful for his Movies in the 50's that helped brighten up my life in a very dreary post War UK,and I will be forever grateful to him for showing me that dreams can come true if you try.. he would have made it anywhere but thank God he was American..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teddy View Post
    The only reason it's possible anywhere else now is because it happened in America then.
    It was his ability, looks, talent etc that saw him make it.

    Where it happened is immaterial.

    The rock'n'roll revolution could have started just as easily in the UK, Australia, Britain etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getlo View Post
    It was his ability, looks, talent etc that saw him make it.

    Where it happened is immaterial.

    The rock'n'roll revolution could have started just as easily in the UK, Australia, Britain etc.
    Getlo, the first part of your post is correct, the second part with respect is not, at the time he started(mid 50's)it could have only happened in America, as I put in my post The Blues, Jazz, Pop Music, could only have happened there, the African American influence gave us Jazz & Rn'B combined with songs of the slaves and the European immigrants (Irish,Scottish,Welsh & English) giving us Country Music & Folk...So my friend it did matter where it happened, UK and other Countries are just watered down American music it could only have happened in America, it comes from their roots & Musical Heritage, from hard times, and their Patriotism and love for their country which is expressed in so many of the wonderful songs that have come out of their country check out how many States, Towns & Cities have classic songs written about them.

  12. #32
    Rock'n'roll is an American art form.
    The fact that Elvis emerged in the mid-50's as its greatest exponent was as dependent upon his geographical location as his talent.
    'Taking Care of Beaulieu'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpsuit Junkie View Post
    We are all a product of our environments, our cultures definitely leave a big stamp on our personality. For instance people often talk of the Southern Hospitality & American Culture, these are things that make people the way they are. To remove someone from their influences surely would make you a different individual as your life experience dictates certain aspects of your behaviour.

    Elvis was born in the USA in 1935, lets say Elvis was born in Germany in 1935 or Europe! In spite of his huge talent, would it have had the same impact?

    Good question,.. I don't think Elvis talent would be recognized if he was born in German, or Europe 1935 , the World War 2 was about to start, who knows what would happened to the Presley's .


    I remember in the 60s and early 70s Elvis music ( Rock n Roll in general ) was banned by Indonesian Government, that was what i knew from my parents story it was really hard just to get his albums,or books .

    I think that Elvis was blessed to be an American ... the land of freedom, and opportunities,I said this : it was meant to be.

    We are all happened to be lucky to enjoy his music and talent even long after he is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricky View Post
    it could have only happened in America, as I put in my post The Blues, Jazz, Pop Music, could only have happened there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teddy View Post
    Rock'n'roll is an American art form.
    The fact that Elvis emerged in the mid-50's as its greatest exponent was as dependent upon his geographical location as his talent.
    You both need to re-read the question on this poll very carefully:

    Would Elvis have made it big if he was born outside of America?

    It has nothing to do with rock'n'roll, or even music. The question does not say "made it big in music" or some such, now does it?

    And remember, the "American Dream" is simply what Americans call The Dream; it is not exclusive to the USA.
    Getlo - cute'n'cuddly

  15. #35
    It depends upon what constitutes 'making it big'.
    If we take it to mean 'would he have made it as big' then the answer is almost certainly not.
    If Elvis had been born in the USSR in 1935 with the same looks and natural propensity for music I'm willing to bet that we never would have heard of him.

    America is the essential catalyst in the Elvis success story.
    'Taking Care of Beaulieu'.

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    I think Elvis (which we all know and love) could be born and grow up only in America.
    So If he would be from other country, he also became famous possibly…
    But he would be another person. Аnd this would be another story..

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    If Elvis had been born into another country I think he would have made it big locally but not so sure that he would have been known world-wide as he was because there wouldn't have been the same diversity in music that he was exposed to here to develop his unique talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teddy View Post
    It depends upon what constitutes 'making it big'.
    If we take it to mean 'would he have made it as big' then the answer is almost certainly not.
    If Elvis had been born in the USSR in 1935 with the same looks and natural propensity for music I'm willing to bet that we never would have heard of him.

    America is the essential catalyst in the Elvis success story.
    Teddy, you right!!

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    Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teddy View Post
    America is the essential catalyst in the Elvis success story.
    ELVIS is the essential catalyst in the Elvis success story.
    Getlo - cute'n'cuddly

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