Reply With QuoteAnd athiesm is close to Scientology how exactly?Originally Posted by cameron
And feel free to put me back on ignore, life will no doubt be easier for us both.
I am going to "try this" for one day. If you cannot be civil, I'll just go back to the way I had it.That is possibly one of the most ill-informed "opinions" I have ever read ... and it is greatly offensive.
Not that you will have the courage to respond to me, but just how is athiesm close to a "religion" that believes humans evolved from aliens who came to the earth 75,000 years ago?
Do some research before posting such bollocks.
I've done much research on many things. Sorry, if you find it offensive.
Did I say atheists believe that humans evolved from aliens? I don't think so.
Nor do I think Scientology is a religion.
And athiesm is close to Scientology how exactly?
And feel free to put me back on ignore, life will no doubt be easier for us both.
Last edited by Getlo; 10-17-2007 at 09:10 AM.
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
Scientologists believe that you need nothing or no one .
You make your own destiny. {Of course, they have all the mumbo-jumbo about aliens, etc. }
Atheists follow the same theory .There IS no God, deity or anything.
As you've so elegantly said, atheists believe only in themselves. Once you're dead you're dead.
Atheists follow science, reason .being able to touch ,see or feel that something exists. {I do that too, as a christian}
Scientologits believe that Ron Hubbard invented the perfect theory/life.
IF Hubbard didn't teach it ,it doesn't exist. They point out to you their success in life by living his teachings.
I don't have time for all their stuff. Needless to say, I'd choose atheism over Scientology any day. I think I'd stand a better chance to convert.
Anyway; the main thing is Scientologists don't believe in a God or anything else....except living to become " very well off" so you can share your money with them. All their info is on the Net as well as athestic thinking.
In the long run; we all have to answer for the things we do.
Even a christian.
I'll pay $1000 right now to you or the charity of your choice if you can point to the exact thread or post where I said athiests believe only in themselves.
Go for it. Sorry, but you won't find that ... because I did not state that! Another case of reading something and understanding only the parts you want to.
Athiests believe in logic, science, things that can be proven or measured. We choose not to burden ourselves with the fairytale that is religion. We do not only believe in ourselves ...but that, ultimately, one can only rely on oneself and one's logic to deal with life.
You have - yet again - made wild assumptions about a belief system of which you know nothing.
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
" Atheists follow science, reason .being able to touch ,see or feel that something exists. {I do that too, as a christian }" quote Cameron
I believe I said that in my post.
Now, I am done. Argue with yourself.
Oh, would that it were true ... !
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
I don't know of any of other 'religion' that believes in aliens like the Scientologists!
Albeit a little more crdible than burning bushes, people walking on water and seas parting!!!
( or are we not to take that literally? or whats the latst stance to try and bend the bible around science and fact these days! lol.......funny thing is the bible was written by men and the new testament was an amalgamation of books...some made it some didnt...man decided! )
I am a Christian and I could debate some of this further but won't. You either believe on faith or you don't. I learned long ago to not try and push my religious beliefs on someone who was not the least bit interested-its best for all involved. Every person has free will to choose and when someone shows a willing interest I am happy to help them if I can in my faith.I don't know of any of other 'religion' that believes in aliens like the Scientologists!
Albeit a little more crdible than burning bushes, people walking on water and seas parting!!!
( or are we not to take that literally? or whats the latst stance to try and bend the bible around science and fact these days! lol.......funny thing is the bible was written by men and the new testament was an amalgamation of books...some made it some didnt...man decided! )
But religion and politics are sure fire argument starters even among the best of friends.
Ok it's a bit off topic...but I wanted to know something, I vaguely recall reading something about very religious people being shocked the first time they saw Elvis in the 50s, is that true?
Yeah, some religious nutters thought he was the Devil incarnate.
There were burnings of his records, and other records ... rallies against the "scourge" or rock'n'roll. The whole box and dice.
They thought the "beat" of the music was Satan's rhythm.
Today, these types of people can be found wasting their valuable time protesting shows like Californication or the music of Marilyn Manson, and generally making the world a slightly sadder place than it needs to be ...
Getlo - cute'n'cuddly
Don't forget they also vote for Bush and try and stop stem cell research!
Big time he was called Satans Spawn by one Preacher.
Not all are nutters and not all thought that of Elvis-just to clarify that.
A lot of people thought Elvis was the devil's spawn and that rock and roll contributed to teenage delinquency.
I lucked out, both my parents couldn't see that in him or that the music was harmful. Some of my family did, but I had the good sensible ones.
Diane
my parents liked elvis and so did my grandparents so l got lucky.
My mom was not a big fan. My aunt was a huge fan. My grandma told my aunt when Elvis was on Ed Sullivan, "You can watch but if you scream I'll turn it off!"
My mom was not a big fan. My aunt was a huge fan. My grandma told my aunt when Elvis was on Ed Sullivan, "You can watch but if you scream I'll turn it off!"good one KPM
My mom was not a big fan. My aunt was a huge fan. My grandma told my aunt when Elvis was on Ed Sullivan, "You can watch but if you scream I'll turn it off!"
LOL, I find that comment, from your grandma, really heartwarming and cute!
Kim
Well KPM, your mom and aunt had different tastes but your grandmother was a jewel! And...a very sensible woman.
Diane
In my humble opinion,god is nothing to do with religions,and each person,has his/her own concept of god even if they don't belong to any of the known religions or similar organizations just like me..my concept of god is, as "the source of all"..kind of a key that will unlock the chest of the total awareness,something that doesn't have a physical shape or egotistic needs,and we are connected to this source and also we each are, creators by our own powers,fed by that big one.as for punishment,guess it's up to us and nothing like we could imagine in our present way of thinking, it must be more like a learning and understanding process to get ready for a higher level. I believe Elvis's aim in enlightement was never limited with rules of any single religion though he respect and studied many of them if not all..saying this,hope I do not offend any soul here..but we go on learning from every single element and idea of others.. with our free minds and hearts,and our ever expanding awareness,we can go through the highest barriers one by one ..funny,we're still curious about Elvis' type of belief..yes I say "type of" because we are tought some certain methods only and still afraid of searching the truth within ourselves..I believe Elvis managed to do this,don't think he ever spent any single moment without learning a thing..again a good example in another area,yet no one has to follow.. sure a different Elvis I see in him,comparing his image..
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