Let the stars fade and fall, and I won't care at all, as long as I have you.
"You've got it all together like a lovin' machine
You're lookin' like glory and walkin' like a dream...
Mother nature's sure been good to Y-O-U"
I'll Remember You!!!
from my Memphis Trip in October 2008
Very good jumpsuit
Hold on just one goldurned minute...
I just noticed something: in the photos that show Elvis wearing the suit it obviously has yellow satin kickpleat godets and a yellow satin lining to the cape. The porthole inserts may also be yellow satin; hard to tell.
BUT...on the suit displayed at Graceland it appears that the kickpleats have gold lamé inserts and, if I'm not mistaken, the cape also looks to be lined with lamé. The portholes, for sure, have lamé inserts.
What's going on? Were there two very similar suits made? Doesn't seem likely, at that stage in Elvis' career. Was the original damaged or deteriorated such that some of the satin had to be replaced? If so, why not just use fresh yellow satin? Could the one at Graceland be a replica, just not a very careful one? Maybe, but it looks to have the IC Costumes label inside and that seems unlikely on a replica unless they thought nobody would notice or kick up a fuss.
Anybody have a clue as to what the story is here?
I'm a roving roustabout...
Call the Jumpsuit Cops!!
'Taking Care of Beaulieu'.
I've been wondering the same thing.
The yellow satin kickpleat is stronger then lame gold. Therefore I don't think the lining was damaged and had to be replaced.
I have done some tests to see if it is a lighting effect (flash or no flash or colour adjustment).
The lame gold does turn a little more solid yellow if you turn up the saturation. But you have to turn it up that much that the normal colours would also be too saturated. Obviously that is not the case on the photos.
Therefore this is an excellent question for the jumpsuit specialist or designers.
I certainly would like to hear the reason for this difference.
I've asked B&K. And they say that there were indeed two suits. One with gold lining and one with yellow lining.
There is too much color difference for it to be one suit. I've tested that. No matter how much you change saturation or flash or no flash or exposure time gold lame never turns into yellow.
I reject the premise that B & K is the end all authority on jumpsuits. They NEVER had any part in Elvis' costume design process and didn't start making jumpsuit copies until long after Elvis died. Yes, Gene Doucette was there and part of it... But we are talking about nearly 40 years ago! Is his memory that good? My Dad sure doesn't remember many specifics from 1971! And was Gene part of the process of making every single suit and nobody else? Was he Bill Belew's only employee? I personally won't believe there are two suits untiil someone can come forward with the second suit.
As for the Butterfly, the ONLY discernible pictures of Elvis in this suit are the posed pictures! The originals may have either have been touched up for clear reproduction or faded or washed out by the flash bulbs when they were taken. Anybody remember cube flash bulbs? For those of you who don't, flash bulbs could be a very harsh and uncontrollable lighting source, especilly against bright subjects. And that cape was sure bright against the black suit!... Or if you want another theory, maybe he lost or tossed the original cape and needed a replacement. Who knows?... The point is NOBODY really knows except for the person who might be possessing the fabled second suit.
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The idea of two suits doesn't make much sense, though, in that I don't think Elvis was having duplicate suits made at this point and he had a few new ones for the start of 1972, making it less than obvious why he'd want two of the same design (that he, apparently, never wore outside Vegas). My thought that someone replaced the satin also makes little sense in that satin is far more durable and if it DID happen to be on the original then why not use it on the repaired version? Ditto with creating a duplicate for which someone would have had to go so far as to add an original (transplanted) or replica IC Costumes tag.
Nope, it still seems to me like we're looking at two different suits, though why this should be so still puzzles me.
Quite obviously, this ranks alongside the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa and certain other unsolved cases as one of the great mysteries of our time...
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I'm a roving roustabout...
The simple answer is, it isn't beyond EPE to replicate and display a fake Jumpsuit! it isn't beyond the realms of possibility there were two made, one rejected because it either didn't fit or some other flaw, the second made and worn but with alterations??
The question then is who has the original, Elvis could have given it away? IC Costumes may have had it? Who knows.....
I am somewhat of a jumpsuit maven. I wondered about just such a question, If the pictures of Elvis wearing the BLACK BUTTERFLY, the jumpsuit obviously has Yellow or Gold Satin Kick pleat lining, Yellow or Gold Satin Cape lining, and Yellow or Gold Satin grommet lining. I asked B&K that very question in an email, and if I can just set the record straight. ELVIS only had one BLACK BUTTERFLY jumpsuit and cape. He is pictured in the YELLOW/GOLD Satin Lined jumpsuit, however, the one on display at Graceland has GOLD LAME' as the lining. B&K replied as such: ELVIS only had the one jumpsuit made, he tried it on for formal pictures taken in his suite at the Hilton Hotel in Las Vegas, he then performed one concert in the jumpsuit. He was going to wear it a second time, however while putting it on, he got his foot caught in the pant leg and it tore the YELLOW/GOLD satin. At the time the I.C. Costume Company that made all of the jumpsuits, were all out of the YELLOW/GOLD satin, so they replaced all of the lining with GOLD LAME'.
Hope this clears up any mis-communications.
hmm weird. I asked B&K about half a year ago and they replied that Elvis had two suits, one gold lame and one yellow satin. Also it is very hard to replace all of the satin for lame. It means all the grommets, cape inside lining, even the satin cuffs on the sleeves.
Never heard that story about tearing the pant leg.
This is to merry77 - It was very rare that I.C. Costume Company of Los Angeles, California ever made doubles of Elvis' jumpsuits. The only times, that my research into the Jumpsuit World of Elvis Presley, that they made multiple jumpsuits were: THE ALOHA jumpsuit. Because of the logistics of doing a live television show, they made a back-up for the one that he wore. He wore one for the rehearsal show on January 12, 1973 @8:30pm Hawaii Time, and he wore the back-up for the actual broadcast on January 14, 1973 @12:30am Hawaii Time. They originally made the Calf length Cape for the suit, but when Elvis tried it on on January 9, 1973 it was too long and he kept tripping over it and even fell on stage while trying to use it, they immediately had the hip length cape made, and shipped to Hawaii so that it would arrive in time for January 12, 1973. They actually worked two straight days to get the cape done and shipped (they actually bought an airplane seat for the cape).
The only other know jumpsuit that was a multiple was the "COLOR FLAME," embroidered. The only thing that was different about them was that one had a YELLOW Kick Pleat, and the other one had an ORANGE Kick Pleat. The Yellow Kick Pleat was never worn on stage as it was too tight for Elvis, so again I.C. Costume Co. had to rush out another one to him, The Orange Kick Pleat is the only one worn on stage.
According to jumpsuit designer Gene Doucette, due to misinformation, there was only one (1) MEXICAN SUNDIAL made. It was made in 1974, worn in 1974 and then worn agin in 1976 through the end of Elvis' career.
Through all of my extensive research, I have only been able to find that only one (1) BLACK BUTTERFLY was ever made, shipped, and worn by Elvis in 1972.
If I uncover any other and future information I will pass it along.
Thanks for letting me inform the masses.
You are right that two suits also don't make sense. It is a fact though that the photos with Elvis have yellow satin lining (both showcase photo and live photo) and that the suit now on display has gold lame lining.
I wish I could see the archive information of Graceland. I know they have everything catalogued, but not for display to fans.
Indeed the most likely explanation seems to be that Graceland bought a second suit with gold lame. But who made it? And where is the original?
I wish someone would ask Gene personally.
What about the rumour that there are three chain suits? I think Leroy mentioned that.