what will Elvis's legacy be like in 10 years?

exactly dounut. otherwise there wouldn't be the need for expensive laswsuits they have files all these years to make it as big a monopoly as possible. the more they sell , junk or not, the more they make. imo, the tasteless had gotten out of control. when Lisa sold out, there was a huge loss of control and it will only get worse. well maybe it can't. but that's to be expected. at least with Lisa and Priscilla as the face of his representation, there is a more personal touch to the history of him. when they are not there, none of it will be.

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Originally Posted by Sweet_One_E.

exactly dounut. otherwise there wouldn't be the need for expensive laswsuits they have files all these years to make it as big a monopoly as possible. the more they sell , junk or not, the more they make. imo, the tasteless had gotten out of control. when Lisa sold out, there was a huge loss of control and it will only get worse. well maybe it can't. but that's to be expected. at least with Lisa and Priscilla as the face of his representation, there is a more personal touch to the history of him. when they are not there, none of it will be.

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That's true and I understand that for the people in charge now Elvis means only business and money because they don't have any sentimental attachement to him. But they have had so many other sources of income related to Elvis that they could have been more selective in what they sold and what they did, maybe not at first but as time passed they surely could have afforded to do it. The thing is greed have not allowed them to care about it, either this or they were as tacky as many of the things they have been making money off.

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Originally Posted by Brian

I don't think Elvis' estate would have any say in what Sony puts out regardless of whether Elvis sold the royalty rights.

I do think even if Elvis did not sell the artist royalty rights on his recordings and his estate got the income for them they'd still sell the ducks and other items.

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Agreed.

IMO, EPE, they do not look at Elvis as a serious creative recording superstar that he was, they look at him as a brand, and all they see is what they can make off of his name. I mean seriously Elvis ducks, if Elvis were alive i gurantee you he would be outraged.:doh:

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Originally Posted by Donut

This is not new but it gives you an idea of where the money comes from.

http://sec.edgar-online.com/ckx-inc/...Section21.aspx


I can't make this bigger but their major income comes from licensing fees and royalties.

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Actually from what I saw of this accounting-for the years 2002 and 2003 the Graceland retail operation was the biggest revenue for the operation-in 2004 the retail end dropped from 34-35% to 27% and the licensing and royalties increased from 29% to 32%-did that trend continue I wonder?
Or did the retail end rebound?

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Originally Posted by Bradley

Agreed.

IMO, EPE, they do not look at Elvis as a serious creative recording superstar that he was, they look at him as a brand, and all they see is what they can make off of his name. I mean seriously Elvis ducks, if Elvis were alive i gurantee you he would be outraged.:doh:

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I found this in an article which chronicles the marketing of Elvis....
The Colonel, who had a large measure of control in the licensing, was not very discerning about what type of products were approved. In addition, bootleggers manufactured Elvis products illegally to make a quick dollar off the fans. As a result, many items were produced that were ill-suited to Elvis' image or were just plain tasteless -- Elvis Presley Sweat, for instance.
The sale of Elvis has never been pretty, never been in good taste-while alive or now in death.

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Originally Posted by KPM

Actually from what I saw of this accounting-for the years 2002 and 2003 the Graceland retail operation was the biggest revenue for the operation-in 2004 the retail end dropped from 34-35% to 27% and the licensing and royalties increased from 29% to 32%-did that trend continue I wonder?
Or did the retail end rebound?

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I don't know, KPM :hmm: I couldn't find more information, but I wonder why the retail end dropped ;):lol:

Found this concerning 2009 revenue of Sillermans Interests and Elvis Presley business contributions to it:
http://ir.ckx.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=382410
The way I read the graphs on this page is that the Elvis end of Sillermans empire seems to be very productive.

Commenting on the financial results, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Robert F.X. Sillerman said, "I am pleased to report that our businesses continue to perform well in this challenging economic environment. Our core business units maintain their dominant positions, with a vibrant pipeline for the future. 19 Entertainment's American Idol remains the #1 rated show on television by a wide margin. The Elvis business remains strong, with the addition of the Las Vegas based Cirque du Soleil show late this year poised to add dynamic growth. The strength of our overall business, and our balance sheet, have permitted us to accelerate our development pipeline. Exciting new initiatives, that have yet to contribute to our results, provide real potential for impact in the years to come."

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Originally Posted by KPM

The Elvis business remains strong, with the addition of the Las Vegas based Cirque du Soleil show late this year poised to add dynamic growth.

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Yeah, I was going to comment on that (y) but since it has just began I guess we'll have to wait to see if it's a success.

i can only say that for ne in ten yeras JEHOVAH GOD willing i will still be going to graceland listening and watching the latest and i'm sure many if not all of you will be doing the same nobody can resist E.P. but will the next gens appreciate him and keep the fire burning i sure think so as i meet some every year at graceland and they are just as serious as us ol fans believe you me so i think in ten years it will still be strong enough to where we will still seeking to know more about him .