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graceland123
07-21-2006, 06:36 PM
I see that Linda Thompson is to be at the Elvis insiders in Memphis this August
Good to see her finally talking about elvis
she is to appear with her brother sam thompson
i hope this is the start of perhaps a book by linda as it is about time
she hasn t milked her relationship with elvis( unlike some) and deserves to gain recognition as elvis s serious girlfriend after all they lived together for years
i just wish i was going
i wonder how priscilla has allowed it after all we all know how she likes to be queen bee and likes to make it known that she was the only one that elvis loved at the exclusion of any other woman even removing every trace of linda from graceland when she opened it to the public
i know they met up at larry kings bash but i dont believe there is any love lost between them and priscilla has done some nasty things to linda over the years such as slagging her off when she was dating elvis saying that elvis still wanted her and was begging her to come back and not allowing her on the lisa marie plane after elvis died
she got lindas family thrown out of a house that elvis bought them and hasnt included linda in any programme about elvis.
i can understand her being angry at linda if elvis had been having an affair with her while they were married or he had ended the marriage for her but the fact is she supported and loved elvis after priscilla left him for another man and didnt deserve to be treated this way be priscilla .

songs4u
07-21-2006, 07:03 PM
I was surprised to hear about Linda participating in the event. I wonder how this all came about. She never speaks a bad word about Priscilla but, I wonder what the true relationship is between them. It almost makes me think the Presleys are gaining in some way by having Linda there or they wouldn't have invited her.

Diane
07-21-2006, 07:25 PM
Yup, there has to be a catch!

songs4u
07-21-2006, 07:48 PM
There's gotta be Diane.

I read your whole post which told me some things I didn't know before about Priscilla and Linda. They go on television and talk civil about one another but, what do you expect.

When Linda says she's close to Lisa, do you believe that? Priscilla is Lisa's mother and it's only natural for Lisa to take her mother's side on things. I have to think Priscilla tells Lisa things about Linda. Maybe, I'm just letting my imagination and mouth run away with me here.

Donut
07-21-2006, 08:45 PM
i hope this is the start of perhaps a book by linda as it is about time
Graceland123 I read an interview of Linda somewhere ( can?t remember the place ) where she told the interviewer that she is going to write a book about Elvis because she feels she didn?t do enough to defend him after his death and he deserves it.
For Linda in Elvis insiders i was surprised too reading she was going to attend (y)

Diane
07-21-2006, 08:54 PM
No, I don't think you're off base here Song4U. I think Lisa Marie was close to Linda while Linda was living at Graceland. Linda was the first person she called when Elvis died and she realized something bad had happened to her dad. If not, why didn't she call her mom first?

Again I'm rather prejudiced against Priscilla and that just really took a hold after she left him. Then the more I read about her and saw her on television in interviews etc. the more I began to dislike her because of her veiled digs at Elvis and trying to appear absolutely innocent and blameless. I began to take another look at the pictures of her young and scrutinazing her expressions, posture etc. and my opinion of her started to worsen. The book Child Bride was the kicker but even though it fit my impression of her you know a lot of things that were said in that book like all others had to be embellished. In the end I guess all you could say is that she and Elvis were definitely not soul mates. She wanted something from him he couldn't give and vice-versa.

No one can say for sure if she's talked against Linda to Lisa unless they were there but my guess would be she surely did as I believe she is a very jealous person - needs to be queen bee as somelse had said. I also think she exaggerated a lot of things Elvis did to have more control over her. And, Lisa could be damaging to her mother if she wanted to. I'm sure she remembers things Priscilla would not want talked about as well.

Most of us are speaking from the heart here and I believe none of us are experts at "knowing the whole truth". Read it all and as many books as you can get your hands on and draw your own conclusions. That's the closest any of us will ever get to what really happened.

I wish you had seen him perform though. Seeing him in person would have helped you a lot. He was a great performer and knew how to manipulate his audience like no one ever has before BUT he also couldn't hide the real Elvis.

I really believe he was one of the most complicated people there ever was. He was full of emotional scars from his upbringing, not because his parents abused him but being looked down on from others at school etc. for being from a very poor family and the problems that caused all three of them.

I think he became very needy especially after his mom died and he filled his house with familiar people in order to feel secure. Trouble was, very few if any understood how he thought or what he needed - his women included. I believe I even read somewhere that Joe laughed at him once when he was strongly into his quest to finds truths in all the religious books he read. And that bothered me about Joe. Did he secretly look down on this immature but brilliant person in his music or was that for effect in front of the other guys? In any case can you just imagine what living in that house was like with all the pushing and bickering about who was top guy in Elvis' eyes?


I'm getting too far afield here but I hope I helped answer some questions in your mind.

Diane
07-22-2006, 03:32 AM
Oh by the way Songs4U, I think you were the one who mentioned you didn't know what Junior Smith Elvis' cousin looked like. He was apparently kind of strange and I think he was the one that was found dead in his room before Elvis died. He was an chronic alcoholic. You can see him in a couple of pictures of the train series with Elvis.

There are also some pictures of Elvis and his cousin Billy Smith. The one that comes to mind is a cute one (in colour) where Elvis has gotten Billy by the crook of his arm. There's another guy in the photo with them but I can't remember if it's Joe or not.

I wish I knew how to post pictures etc. I would have uploaded or downloaded all the others with the girlfriends. See, I don't even know the jargon.....:blush:

All these pictures can be found in the fifties section of the gallery under Candids. Sorry I couldn't help you more.

songs4u
07-22-2006, 04:40 AM
Diane, I saw Elvis do a show in '72, '74, and '76.

You talk about Elvis' cousin being an alcoholic. Am I wrong in saying that was a problem a lot of his family had. I'm not judging them because I'm the last one to judge anyone. I was just wondering.

riley
07-22-2006, 07:24 AM
songs4u, you saw him perform in different years?

did you see him change healthwise.

And if yes did the shows suffer from that given.

songs4u
07-22-2006, 08:08 AM
riley

When I saw him in '72 they were filming the movie "Elvis, On Tour". He was wearing that Red suit in the beginning of the movie. He was in Richmond, Virginia then. That's where I saw him. They had huge movie cameras following him all over stage. He looked great. I can't hardly find fault with Elvis because he's so beautiful but, his face looked pale against that red suit. He was happy and energetic. He even laid down on stage. He was having fun I think.

in '74 I don't remember a lot about that show. I was young when I saw him. He was wearing one of those eagle suits I think. You know the ones like he wore in Aloha in Hawaii. He didn't look heavy but, there was a difference in his weight from '72. But, nothing that would make you really call him heavy.

in '76 it was obvious he was heavier if you had seen him in '72. It looked like he had some puffiness. He was wearing one of the suits with the puffy sleeves. I had never seen him wear one of those before. He was pale this time, also but it seemed like you noticed it more. He wasn't wearing as much eye make up that night so that might be why I noticed the paleness so much. He wasn't at all as heavy as he was in '77. I have a thread here talking about him singing the song "America" in '76. I thought his voice was in great form that night. His movements slowed down from '72 to '76. He was getting older, of course, but, I think his health or weight gain probably had something to do with it.

I don't think his voice ever failed him.

And, I might add, the fans treated him the same all 3 times I saw him do shows. They went crazy screaming and trying to get to the stage. After all he was still Elvis.

Diane
07-22-2006, 01:59 PM
Gayle,

I'm sorry I misread a thread thinking it was you who hadn't seen Elvis in person. I'm glad you had that experience. Thank you for your impressions of the years you saw him.

Yes, the alcoholism was in his family on his mother's side, actually both sides of the family as his aunt Delta also had the problem. They say that's why Elvis didn't drink.

geordie
07-22-2006, 04:38 PM
i read an interview that linda gave in one of the elvis mags i get
it was taken from ESSENTIAL ELVIS (THE ELVIS MAG )issue 45 march/april 2006
www.essentialelvis.com (http://www.essentialelvis.com)

ForeverTheKing
07-24-2006, 06:17 AM
I was surprised to hear about Linda participating in the event. I wonder how this all came about. She never speaks a bad word about Priscilla but, I wonder what the true relationship is between them. It almost makes me think the Presleys are gaining in some way by having Linda there or they wouldn't have invited her.



This can be considered a very surprise...strange picture!:blink:
Are they friends now or they just pose for the camera?:lmfao:

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Awickedreigndrop
07-24-2006, 06:48 AM
This can be considered a very surprise...strange picture!:blink:
Are they friends now or they just pose for the camera?:lmfao:

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This is a weird picture. Maybe it was just for show, I don't know. But I don't think "Exes and Nextes" get along that well. :hmm: Well most of the time they don't. Too bad none of us was a fly on the wall when this picture was taken. Then we would know it's true meaning.

songs4u
07-24-2006, 07:03 AM
Diane,

The reason I was curious about the alcoholism in Elvis' family is because an addictive personality is supposed to be hereditary. I wonder if Elvis had one. I do, I got it from my father. I don't know the word moderation in anything.

About that picture of Linda and Miss Priss, you know for sure it was for publicity purposes. I bet they can't stand each other.

Someone was saying that maybe Linda was invited to particiate in this year's event was because Sillerman has 85 percent control and he's calling the shots with EPE. He wants to make money and he probably thinks it's a good idea to get some people in there that the fans like.

Miss Priss won't have the spotlight all to herself, anymore. Boo Hoo! Boo Hoo! Poor Miss Priss.

Donut
07-24-2006, 11:33 AM
Miss Priss won't have the spotlight all to herself, anymore. Boo Hoo! Boo Hoo! Poor Miss Priss.
LOLOL YOU ARE RIGHT GAYLE (y) IT WAS TIME

MISSCLAWDY
07-24-2006, 03:08 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
too true!!!!!

Diane
07-24-2006, 08:54 PM
Gayle,

My dad was an alcoholic too but he was a binger - it wasn't constant and the only abuse we had from him was worrying about what it would do to his health. I'm sure it was similar with you as you said you loved your dad. So did I, my dad was a great dad (in my eyes anyway).

My sister and I luckily didn't inherit the tendency for alcoholism. It doesn't always happen but from what I understand, it passes down more to a son from the father than to a daughter but of course can go to either. Maybe Elvis was one of the lucky ones too but then he didn't chance it enough to find out.

Diane
07-24-2006, 08:58 PM
Oops, I forgot about Priscilla having Linda at Graceland. I don't want to miss that. I hope they televise it. She may not have all the spotlight to herself but she sure is going to try. Watch out to see if Linda suddenly grabs her foot from a heel wound.:)

songs4u
07-24-2006, 11:51 PM
Diane

Do you think they might televise it? I saw it one year on HBO way back when Lisa had Michael Jackson there.

I'm sort of on our personal subject here, sorry. My father wasn't an alcoholic nor do I drink. Thank goodness because if I drank I'd be the worse drunk out there. I can't do anything in moderation. That means, eating, shopping, sleeping, not sleeping, taking medications (do you get my drift a little here?). My father was very successful and left me a business he built. It just might be psyco-babble bullcrap but, I've been told I inherited it. I'm by far worse than my father. Nothing he did interferred with his life. My life is affected by my extremes. That's why I was wondering if Elvis could have had this type personality. Alcohol might not have been his substance of choice. It's not mine, either.

If anyone hears about any of the events this year in Memphis being televised please post it here. Thanks.

Diane
07-25-2006, 12:42 AM
Gayle,

I'm sorry I misread your thread - again. I was too much in a hurry I guess. Elvis inherited an addictive personality and why he had so much trouble with the drugs. It's a "tendency" to certain things that is inherited and usually takes a "trigger" to set them off. By that I mean that something happens in life that starts you on the road to something. In Elvis' case, I guess it was the drugs he was given in the army to stay awake and alert.

I guess from what I've read he also inherited his mother's kidney and heart problems. The alcohol was Elvis' mother's trigger to set off weak kidneys that she probably inherited as well and his was the drugs. Had they both not gotten into these substances they probably would have lived much longer. With all the stresses in his life, I'm surprised he didn't collapse sooner.

I tend to go overboard in collecting things. You inherited parts of your dad's personality traits - we all do. Some things are genetically passed on as in health problems, personality traits can either be genetically inherited or learned or taught.

I second Gayle's request that anyone who knows whether they will televise Linda at Graceland to let everyone on this site know. Thank you.

songs4u
07-25-2006, 01:06 AM
Diane wrote

Elvis inherited an addictive personality and why he had so much trouble with the drugs. It's a "tendency" to certain things that is inherited and usually takes a "trigger" to set them off. By that I mean that something happens in life that starts you on the road to something.

You are exactly right here. I know from experience.

Miss Priss has talked about Elvis having an addictive personality, She says she doesn't have that addictive nature. I think Linda was asked the same thing about how could she not take pills with Elvis (I might be wrong here). She didn't have that type personality, either.

I'd say starting in '72 about the time he met Linda, Elvis really needed someone "straight" to keep him out of trouble. From what I've read most Elvis fans feel Linda was that person. It's well known that she did save him from almost accidently dying at times.

I know how hard it is to watch someone you love self-destruct but, could I have left him knowing he was almost at the end of his self-destruction. It's just me but, I don't think I could have walked away. Because of experiences I've personally had I feel this way. Linda did what she felt she had to do. She followed her heart and that's fine. I'm just saying it's not what I would have done. But, everyone's different, right? Me, personally, I'm a little wacko:wiggle: :huh: :wacko: :harhar:

Diane
07-25-2006, 02:57 AM
Gayle,

I personally like wackos.:) Elvis was one for sure. Do you remember seeing a photo of him pressing his nose against a mirror? Now why did he do that? There was still so much kid in him even in his early 20's.

As for Linda leaving, I think the MM had a lot to do with that. I think they interfered too much. If she'd had him to herself she may have been able to get his attention more. They got the drugs for him too. She had a lot to battle with there. I don't know if I could have left either but it would have taken a very strong woman to fight all the obstacles.

songs4u
07-25-2006, 03:35 AM
If you like wackos, Diane, you'll just adore me. I straighten myself up when I have to deal with business but, in my free time I'm a nut. :wacko:

No, I don't recall seeing the picture you're describing.
You say there was so much kid in him even in his 20s. I'm in my 30s and my son still has to say "Mom, don't do that" when I start to do something crazy. I don't do anything dangerous or stupid, well, I take that back maybe some of the things I do are stupid. He's more of a grown up than I am when it comes to my personal life. I'm grown when it comes to business, that's about it.


Diane wrote

As for Linda leaving, I think the MM had a lot to do with that. I think they interfered too much. If she'd had him to herself she may have been able to get his attention more. They got the drugs for him too. She had a lot to battle with there. I don't know if I could have left either but it would have taken a very strong woman to fight all the obstacles.

I didn't know that Linda had any conflicts with the MM. I thought they all liked her so much and they were the ones that thought if she had stayed, Elvis might have been with us longer.

When she was on the Larry King the last time she was telling how the official break up happened. She said Elvis told her the plane was coming in from Memphis, I think, and did she want to go home for a while. She's telling Larry that Elvis probably had flown another woman into Vegas to be with him.

Do you think Elvis was tiring of her and sort of wanted to dissolve their relationship? I read in "Elvis, What Happened" that Elvis was leaving one of his concerts, I believe, with another girl and he made sure photographers got pictures of them together because he told the MM that Linda acts like we're #$=*&@! married. :argue: But, how much of that book is true down to every detail.
All I guess any of us can do is guess. :hmm:

Some might think we're looney to talk about Elvis so much but, I like it. I'm so glad I found and Elvis forum so I can talk all Elvis.
:cool:

Diane
07-25-2006, 04:33 AM
Gayle, I adore you already!:) I have two life-long best friends and both are completely nuts. In both cases the friendships were formed by one drawing the introverted one out and the other shutting the extroverted one up.:) One is in Idaho, the other in Nova Scotia and I'm here in the middle missing them both.:'( My big dream is having them meet for the first time at my place then standing back and watching them go through their antics. My daughter says she would love to see that too. We'd have our own personal comic stage show.:lol:

Yes, I think that the MM did like and respect Linda but they also got upset if anyone was taking up too much of his time. They were a jealous bunch as you know. She also had to battle Dr. Nick and although he got off the charges against him for over prescribing to Elvis, he did get nailed for doing the same to another celebrity. His little attempt with the sugar pills to wean him off was such a crock!

I think you may be right that Elvis was getting tired of her. She didn't meet his needs either but by then I'm not sure he even knew what he wanted anymore.

Just a tough situation for her all around.

Awickedreigndrop
07-25-2006, 05:18 AM
Gayle, You are a very cool person!

Diane, I like wackos too. Hey we can form a club!:clap: :lmfao: I love it when Elvis acted silly, I guess I'm just attracted to people who has a sense of humor.

Personally to me, the MM seemed to cause a lot of problems in Elvis' personal relationships because they were always around him and the girls hardly had any R&R time alone with him. I heard Prissy and Linda both talk about this(Wow, they have something in common!).

Diane
07-25-2006, 03:23 PM
Awickedreigndrop, you are right Gayle is cool and maybe we should form a club.:)

Both Joe Esposito and Priscilla aren't known for their sense of humor. I think that's why I keep sticking up for Lisa Marie. Her face often lights up with her dad's smile.

The world would be a lot happier place if people didn't feel they had to put on airs and be so competitive with each other. Now then I've solved the world's problems. What do you think?:)

Awickedreigndrop
07-26-2006, 02:46 AM
I agree! (y) Jealousy and the need to compete destroys a lot of relationships.

songs4u
07-26-2006, 05:10 AM
Hey Diane and Awickedreigndrop

If we form a club what are we going to call ourselves? I'm going to be thinking of a name.

Awickedreigndrop
07-26-2006, 06:05 AM
Hey Diane and Awickedreigndrop

If we form a club what are we going to call ourselves? I'm going to be thinking of a name.

I don't know but I'll start thinking too! It'll be fun! :clap: (y) Should it have Elvis in it or should it be 100% original?

Diane
07-26-2006, 03:37 PM
How about Hard Headed Women? Devils in Disguise? :)

We already belong to a great club - this site with its great members.

Awickedreigndrop
07-27-2006, 06:09 AM
Those are good names! Since I am kinda hard headed... so I've been told. :D And I've been told that I was evil because I have a wicked sense of humor.:blush: Which one? *Think think think* What do you think Gayle?

ForeverTheKing
07-27-2006, 03:34 PM
He got bored very easily. Despite his feelings for someone, when boredom set in he looked for ways to move them out of his life.


I think in that moment of his life he got bored very often!:'(

I don't think he didn't care about Linda but there was a general feeling of dissatisfaction in him that it was hard to face everything...music, career and relationships.
I think he was always in search of new incentives to feel better and to be happy...but he couldn't find the right way...he tried again with Ginger, but we know she wasn't the right one for him in that period ...:'(
This is only my opinion...but maybe I'm wrong ;)

Diane
07-27-2006, 04:12 PM
I think you are both exactly right. Elvis was frustrated and disatisfied in his personal life and I think somewhat with his professional life too in that it had become "same old, same old.

songs4u
07-28-2006, 01:29 AM
We've had some discussions about personality types and the type Elvis might have had. We've talked of how he tired of people and things easily. As I've grown and I watched my Dad grow older we certainly have a distinct personality type. It seems Elvis had the same. This isn't to brag because it's nothing to brag about. I've lived my life that way and so did my Dad. I know I've said I wouldn't have left Elvis if it were me when he needed me so much but, I know from personal experience how hard someone like that can be to live and deal with. My mother loved my father and lived with it for a long time and finally had to leave him. Then she was stuck with me.



Anyway, I'll get off of that. I had something else I wanted to say.....now, I've forgotten what it was.....hold on a minute....oh, yeah,,,,whatever name ya'll come up with is fine with me. I'm totally insane and probably won't be able to remember it anyway. :blink: :wacko: You'll probably have to keep reminding me.:bangin: :secret:


Diane wrote

The world would be a lot happier place if people didn't feel they had to put on airs and be so competitive with each other. Now then I've solved the world's problems. What do you think?

I don't know about the world's problems, Diane, but, you just described my cousin. She thinks she is so that.

Awickedreigndrop
07-28-2006, 05:22 AM
Hard Headed Women or Devils in Disguise.... Hmm hard choice... Since we're so crazy, how about Devils in Disguise?

songs4u
07-28-2006, 06:50 AM
Awickedreigndrop, any name's fine with me. See how easy I am to get along with. And those crazy guys at the radio station say I'm mean. I think they're the ones with a problem. (n)


Since this is a Linda thread I thought I'd post a picture I have of her. You'll have to take my word that it's her unless you know what the back of her head looks like. I was standing behind her beside the stage. This is my aunt's attempt at taking a picture of Elvis (she missed) with a cheap camera that she, evidently, didn't know how to use and my attempt to post it here. This might explain why the picture looks large and turned out as good as it did.




http://www.tcb-world.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14242&stc=1&d=1154066111

Diane
07-28-2006, 06:59 AM
Gayle,

I think Elvis inherited personality traits from both parents as we all do but was definitely closer to his mother and most influenced by her. I think he was a mamma's boy to a point but I've also read how he felt a bit suffocated by her over-concern for him and that he did things and went places that she didn't know about as all kids do.

The two cases in point being when he didn't want her to be seen walking him to school and made her walk a distance away from him and when he'd sneak away and go to the black neighbourhood to hear them sing the blues etc.

I also read that because of all the problems that little family had that he felt he had the feeling he had to take care of both of them at a very young age so you know even with the constant close mothering Gladys gave him, something was missing in that he didn't have the carefree life a kid should have. Inadvertently she passed her worries on to him.

His father was rumored to be unfaithful to Gladys too so that probably had a bearing on his handling of his relationships when he grew up.

Everyone has quirks of personality that are uniquely their own or passed on and all we can do is to do the best with what we've got. Right?

Ed Parker made a statement to Elvis in his book that I think is important in every relationship. He said to Elvis that he knew that he and Priscilla had loved each other but had they taken the time to "like" each other. Smart guy!!

songs4u
07-28-2006, 07:06 AM
Diane

I have read or heard some things about Vernon not being the best of husbands. Then I've heard that Elvis' and his Mom could get into some good arguments. I think they all got into it sometimes, didn't they? It sounded like they were quick-tempered. I don't have any room to talk. No judging here just posting some things I've read.

I posted somewhere else and now I can't remember where it was. It might have been on the "Who Really Loved Elvis for Himself" thread. - It seems most all agree that his mother loved him. Their relationship was infamous. He was a Momma's boy. There's nothing wrong with that. I was a Daddy's little girl.
I've told my son, you're going to find out that your Momma is your best friend, and I am.

I've read also that she went a little over board with the protection thing. I was protective of my son but not to that degree. You, also, brought up something about Elvis sort of needing to be the head of household, sometimes, so to speak. He did have an unusual childhood. I wonder if Gladys treated him like she did because she had this fear of losing her only child?

Awickedreigndrop
07-29-2006, 08:06 AM
My mom is overprotective and I believe that can cause some problems. She's also a hyperchandriac. Even though I'm 24 and my brother's 31 she clings onto us always thinking the worse when we're out of her sight... like we're still 14 and 6 years old. Maybe that's how Elvis mother was.

ForeverTheKing
09-23-2006, 07:52 PM
I've found this recent picture of Linda with June Juanico during an "Insiders" conference..I hope you like it (y)

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EnigmaticSun
09-23-2006, 08:14 PM
To answer Gayle; yeah, maybe Elvis and his mom were very close. But I suppose that Elvis' sadness after she died meant that these were some deep feelings for sure.

Some might say that this protective nature isn't healthy, but there's an opposite too. I'd say to my parents 'you're ****ing lucky to be alive'! That's just because they left me as meat for the vultures when I was a baby.

I don't think any parent should consider doing that. So I might spit on their graves instead of being sad like Elvis was.

EP75
09-27-2006, 01:37 AM
Lind Thompson will soon be the sexiest 60 year old woman on the planet. I think she's 56 now.