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Jumpsuit Junkie
05-25-2009, 11:34 AM
I have seen photo's of Elvis being helped on and off stage, more of a 1977 thing I had assumed with his failing health.. I have seen this picture before (see below) and I was struck about how funny it was, that there were so many people offering support! Six people! Was that really necessary?. I had heard that in 1974 there were occasions where Elvis 'fell out the limo' and of course the now infamous 'Drug Speech' but surely six people is excessive.

If there are more pictures of similar instances (stairs) please post.

http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/files/1/8/7/0/bsgkgq_cgkkgrhgoh-dcekjw1zhmkbkdgmn_bew_1.jpg

Merry
05-25-2009, 11:41 AM
I believe Elvis was simply blinded by the light.

Jumpsuit Junkie
05-25-2009, 11:53 AM
I believe Elvis was simply blinded by the light.

Wouldn't that mean the guys helping would also be blinded by the light :rolleyes:

Elvis didn't need help here in 1977 (below).. I just think that people wanted to be close to Elvis and the guys were just protecting him rather than something particularly wrong with Elvis on most occasions. The picture below looks like a grand entrance.

http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/files/1/7/4/8/img0002new1cc2_662364.jpg

Dino78
05-25-2009, 11:56 AM
You might be right about the amount of people but I've read and heard several times that Elvis was blinded by the lights when he left the stage.

Merry
05-25-2009, 11:57 AM
Hi Matt,

The stage lights were blinding for Elvis coming off stage into the change of light.

Why they were all there? :) (dunno, lol).

Jumpsuit Junkie
05-25-2009, 12:02 PM
Only one helping had from Joe!

http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/files/3/0/6/7/normal_Elvis_77_01.jpg

Jumpsuit Junkie
05-25-2009, 12:14 PM
No helping hand!

http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/files/8/2/1/772enteringthestage.jpg

beckelvis
05-25-2009, 12:17 PM
No helping hand!

http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/files/8/2/1/772enteringthestage.jpg
I AGREE WITH YOU FRIND(y)(y):notworthy:notworthy

debtdbruno
05-25-2009, 12:28 PM
I have read also, because he had the flashes going off in his face (why he sang with his eyes shut a lot of the time, to protect them) all through the concert, that when he left the stage he couldn't see where he was going. So he needed assistance. Maybe in later years it could be that he was more unsteady.
There's an Ed Bonja shot where he's leaving the stage, and looking at his eyes there, he looks blinded.

Getlo
05-25-2009, 12:41 PM
The help was because he was close to being blinded by the stage lights after an hour or so on stage.

There is, of course, no help in the photos showing him going on stage. ;)

MissyM
05-25-2009, 12:43 PM
It probably had more to do with exhaustion. Elvis put a lot into his shows. With a bit more weight on him, they would have been more difficult physically.

debtdbruno
05-25-2009, 12:56 PM
Found it........Nov 15th 1970

epmoodyblue
05-25-2009, 02:45 PM
:hmm:no it has nothing to do with failing health issues in any year..elvis could walk on his own just fine even in 77..that piccy u posted is a normal piccy of elvis who simply slipped in the darkness missed a step mabye..lights flashing all over the place probably affected him...thats all..and his guards helpers caught him..prevented him from falling..thats what they were there for to protect him..http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/smiley-gen101.gif

MissyM
05-25-2009, 02:58 PM
You say that as if you know for sure. Can you explain?

Diane
05-25-2009, 03:04 PM
I wonder if the glaucoma was a factor with the lights bothering his eyes?

Diane

debtdbruno
05-25-2009, 03:49 PM
I wonder if the glaucoma was a factor with the lights bothering his eyes?

Diane

Can't have helped can it???
Deb

Getlo
05-25-2009, 04:09 PM
:hmm:no it has nothing to do with failing health issues in any year..elvis could walk on his own just fine even in 77..

Incorrect.

It is common knowledge that - mainly due to his increasing glaucoma - he needed help getting down off the stage after a show.

epmoodyblue
05-25-2009, 04:22 PM
Incorrect.

It is common knowledge that - mainly due to his increasing glaucoma - he needed help getting down off the stage after a show.yeah he had glaucoma probs we know this ...i was reffering to drugs etc it wasint because of anything he may have taken....he just needed help getting off stage sometimes.. thats all....besides the glaucome thingy.. mabye sometimes he may have just slipped..we dont know for sure we werent there when these things happened while leaving the stage...we cant pinpoint any elvis piiccy posted here and say yes that was because of his glaucome prob:blink: .and 6 people helping him is not excessive :lol:..this was the king were talking about(y)

Jumpsuit Junkie
05-25-2009, 04:44 PM
:hmm:no it has nothing to do with failing health issues in any year..elvis could walk on his own just fine even in 77..that piccy u posted is a normal piccy of elvis who simply slipped in the darkness missed a step mabye..lights flashing all over the place probably affected him...thats all..and his guards helpers caught him..prevented him from falling..thats what they were there for to protect him..http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/smiley-gen101.gif


yeah he had glaucoma probs we know this ...i was reffering to drugs etc it wasint because of anything he may have taken....he just needed help getting off stage sometimes.. thats all....besides the glaucome thingy.. mabye sometimes he may have just slipped..we dont know for sure we werent there when these things happened while leaving the stage...we cant pinpoint any elvis piiccy posted here and say yes that was because of his glaucome prob:blink: .and 6 people helping him is not excessive :lol:..this was the king were talking about(y)

http://www.preferredmedical.co.uk/images/pic-logo-confused.gif

SleepyJack
05-25-2009, 04:49 PM
It must have been unbelievably difficult on Elvis to deal with all those lights and flashbulbs considering the problems he had with his eyes.... I think it would have had the same effect on anybody. I`ve known quite a few people who suffered badly with glaucoma and have had bad falls under much less stressful situations.... so no... I don`t think it was over-the-top for them to be so concerned about Elvis coming off stage.

epmoodyblue
05-25-2009, 04:50 PM
http://www.preferredmedical.co.uk/images/pic-logo-confused.gif
:blink:thats not very nice JJ..to make fun of members here.im entitled to my opinion..mabye you should go there..respect peoples opinions . dont make fun of anyone
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/angry-mob1_ani.gif

Tommy
05-25-2009, 05:46 PM
Lots of entertainers have help getting on and off the stage. I have seen this many times with entertainers other than Elvis.

CRITTERGITTER
05-25-2009, 05:51 PM
It might have depended on the crowd. Some crowds were more rowdy than others. And if there was a clear passage way without people reaching for him or a piece of him. I don't think in some situations 6 would have been enough when the crowd realized he was leaving.

EnigmaticSun
05-25-2009, 07:25 PM
Always there, to lend a hand, in everything he did. The wonder of Elvis.

I just had to think of the wonder of you. Might come in handy!

javierTCB
05-25-2009, 10:45 PM
The help was because he was close to being blinded by the stage lights after an hour or so on stage

I agree (y)

This is October 5, 1974, 8:30 pm show at Expo Convention Center, Indianapolis.

Here´s Elvis leaving the stage. The last image Elvis left the building.

Jumpsuit Junkie
05-26-2009, 12:26 AM
If his eyes were that bad surely he would have needed help far more than it appears he had :hmm: I mean on some pictures which I have already posted he is clearly not struggling with stairs going on stage, would that not indicate that he could see well enough?

Jumpsuit Junkie
05-26-2009, 12:30 AM
:blink:thats not very nice JJ..to make fun of members here.im entitled to my opinion..mabye you should go there..respect peoples opinions . dont make fun of anyone
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/angry-mob1_ani.gif

I wasn't making fun, I'm confused by your statements :blink:

Merry
05-26-2009, 12:35 AM
If his eyes were that bad surely he would have needed help far more than it appears he had :hmm: I mean on some pictures which I have already posted he is clearly not struggling with stairs going on stage, would that not indicate that he could see well enough?



I think you feel like chatting, lol :lol:

Going on stage, Elvis' eyes will adjust to the light (as our own eyes would). Going off a brightly lit stage, under hot lights, too, walking into the sudden darkness, plus walking down the stairs, would be blinding for anyone, like a car's headlights, I would think :hmm: Also, you can see how exhausted Elvis was. He was spent.

Not that I've been on stage, :lmfao:

I have been in headlights, though, lol :P

utmom2008
05-26-2009, 12:44 AM
I think you feel like chatting, lol :lol:



:lol::lol::lol::lol:(y)(y)

Merry
05-26-2009, 12:47 AM
:lol::lol::lol::lol:(y)(y)



We caught him? lol :lol::lol::lol::D

Matt, with all these women here, you don't have a chance! :lol: ;)

I'll talk to you, lol! (y):D


P.S. I feel like chatting to one person in particular, lol, hehehe...... where are ya? :D :hug:

Jumpsuit Junkie
05-26-2009, 01:04 AM
Hi Jess, Insomnia is a cruel mistress.

I'm not a Doctor as many of us here are not, when I look at Elvis' movements on stage I can make out that Elvis is not struggling with his sight, he walks close to the edge of the stage, kneels down and kisses fans, hands out scarf's right through 1977, this would indicate that if he did struggle with glaucoma (http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/publicwebsite/public_rnib003655.hcsp?gclid=CMLgnY7G2JoCFQcTzAodl 2czrg) he wasn't in the acute stages. I also think that if Elvis had glaucoma in 1975 it would seem odd that a surgeon would let Elvis have an eye lift. Other factors to back up that Elvis' sight was not severely effected are the fact that Elvis rode his bike throughout 1977 and of course his car up until the day before he died, so if Elvis did indeed have glaucoma he only had minor visual impairment (http://www.glaucoma-association.com/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=1482&lang=en&tt=article).

I will subscribe to the bright light theory to some degree, however the picture in the first post shows six people when clearly two people would be sufficient. I believe that it may have more to do with protection rather than blindness.

Merry
05-26-2009, 01:30 AM
Hi Jess, Insomnia is a cruel mistress.

I'm not a Doctor as many of us here are not, when I look at Elvis' movements on stage I can make out that Elvis is not struggling with his sight, he walks close to the edge of the stage, kneels down and kisses fans, hands out scarf's right through 1977, this would indicate that if he did struggle with glaucoma (http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/publicwebsite/public_rnib003655.hcsp?gclid=CMLgnY7G2JoCFQcTzAodl 2czrg) he wasn't in the acute stages. I also think that if Elvis had glaucoma in 1975 it would seem odd that a surgeon would let Elvis have an eye lift. Other factors to back up that Elvis' sight was not severely effected are the fact that Elvis rode his bike throughout 1977 and of course his car up until the day before he died, so if Elvis did indeed have glaucoma he only had minor visual impairment (http://www.glaucoma-association.com/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=1482&lang=en&tt=article).

I will subscribe to the bright light theory to some degree, however the picture in the first post shows six people when clearly two people would be sufficient. I believe that it may have more to do with protection rather than blindness.




I am, :lmfao: (nahhh).

Elvis only had the bags removed from under his eyes, not a full eye lift..:)

Perhaps the people just cared, and without looking at any-one else around them, instinctively, reached out?

epmoodyblue
05-26-2009, 01:57 AM
I wasn't making fun, I'm confused by your statements :blink::doh::doh:.. ballons 4 uhttp://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/balloons-black-string.gif:lol:

TotallyInsane
05-26-2009, 02:02 AM
Hi Jess, Insomnia is a cruel mistress.

I'm not a Doctor as many of us here are not, when I look at Elvis' movements on stage I can make out that Elvis is not struggling with his sight, he walks close to the edge of the stage, kneels down and kisses fans, hands out scarf's right through 1977, this would indicate that if he did struggle with glaucoma (http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/publicwebsite/public_rnib003655.hcsp?gclid=CMLgnY7G2JoCFQcTzAodl 2czrg) he wasn't in the acute stages. I also think that if Elvis had glaucoma in 1975 it would seem odd that a surgeon would let Elvis have an eye lift. Other factors to back up that Elvis' sight was not severely effected are the fact that Elvis rode his bike throughout 1977 and of course his car up until the day before he died, so if Elvis did indeed have glaucoma he only had minor visual impairment (http://www.glaucoma-association.com/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=1482&lang=en&tt=article).

I will subscribe to the bright light theory to some degree, however the picture in the first post shows six people when clearly two people would be sufficient. I believe that it may have more to do with protection rather than blindness.

OK - it was getting close to Christmas time and they all wanted him to know they were his "best" friend!!! Now, problem solved - that's why all 6 were there grabbing at him! :D:D

Diane
05-26-2009, 02:07 AM
You're probably closer to the real reason than you think.:lol::lol::lol:

Diane

hounddog
05-26-2009, 06:29 AM
i don't want anyone to take offence at what I'm going to say but would it be unusaul for the MM, to want to kind of compete for the one who help Elvis down? Maybe that's why so many hands

RS277
05-26-2009, 06:49 AM
Upon leaving the stage. One must remember, Elvis is being led swiftly through back stage areas to his limo. Areas he is not familar with. These areas are sometimes a maze with lots of other arena events storage. Add in Elvis being led into a much less illuminated area than the bright stage lights he just stared into for an hour. And the fact he's pretty exhausted. Thus multible people assisting.

Jumpsuit Junkie
05-26-2009, 11:15 AM
I am, :lmfao: (nahhh).

Elvis only had the bags removed from under his eyes, not a full eye lift..:)

Perhaps the people just cared, and without looking at any-one else around them, instinctively, reached out?

By process of elimination, you have only picked on one area to further the argument of Elvis having severe glaucoma. So I would reason the other ideas I put forward are pretty sound :hmm:


OK - it was getting close to Christmas time and they all wanted him to know they were his "best" friend!!! Now, problem solved - that's why all 6 were there grabbing at him! :D:D

I believe this is the more likely scenario amongst other reasons (y)


Upon leaving the stage. One must remember, Elvis is being led swiftly through back stage areas to his limo. Areas he is not familar with. These areas are sometimes a maze with lots of other arena events storage. Add in Elvis being led into a much less illuminated area than the bright stage lights he just stared into for an hour. And the fact he's pretty exhausted. Thus multible people assisting.

All good reasons and I wouldn't discount a simple thing like sweat running into his eyes?

Elton
05-26-2009, 11:40 AM
Man if YOU were at the bottom of the stairs,in that pic
YOU wouldn't be reaching out?
i wouldn't care if 6 hands or 20 was stuck out there,i know if i was there
it would have been ONE more.

Donut
05-26-2009, 12:49 PM
I don't find it that odd. I think it's a combination of some of the things mentioned here plus the hurry of getting to the limo before the crowd gets him at the exit.

KPM
05-26-2009, 09:08 PM
I've seen a lot of good reasons here-lights, exhaustion, ill familiar with exits, glaucoma and bright lights, probably a combination of all the things mentioned.
Perhaps somewhere along the way Elvis had a fall, or near fall, and someone decided from here on out-better safe than sorry. I would have to voice my own comment which echos a few others-if I had been there one more hand would have attempted to help him.

utmom2008
05-26-2009, 09:15 PM
OK - it was getting close to Christmas time and they all wanted him to know they were his "best" friend!!! Now, problem solved - that's why all 6 were there grabbing at him! :D:D


You're probably closer to the real reason than you think.:lol::lol::lol:

Diane

:lol::lol::lol:(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

debtdbruno
05-26-2009, 09:16 PM
Where were they all when he went flat on his face getting out of the car??????

utmom2008
05-26-2009, 09:20 PM
Where were they all when he went flat on his face getting out of the car??????

:lol: That's a VERY good question!(y)

Nicole Presley
05-26-2009, 09:38 PM
No helping hand!

http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/files/8/2/1/772enteringthestage.jpg

Yes, no helping hand. But there´s something else that´s helping. He has his hands on that thing there... How´s it called? I looked into a dictionary that says that thing is called "handrail". Is that right?

Merry
05-26-2009, 10:06 PM
Yes, no helping hand. But there´s something else that´s helping. He has his hands on that thing there... How´s it called? I looked into a dictionary that says that thing is called "handrail". Is that right?


Yes, a handrail, Nicole. :D Elvis is going up into the light, so his eyes can adjust.

debtdbruno
05-26-2009, 10:07 PM
Yes, handrail.
He is going on stage there though, not coming off.
Hasn't had the lights, stobes, flashes in his eyes for one hour or more

Jumpsuit Junkie
05-26-2009, 10:17 PM
Yes, a handrail, Nicole. :D Elvis is going up into the light, so his eyes can adjust.


Yes, handrail.
He is going on stage there though, not coming off.
Hasn't had the lights, stobes, flashes in his eyes for one hour or more

I agree, I just wanted to illustrate that that the glaucoma issue wasn't as advanced or the big problem that people indicate!

debtdbruno
05-26-2009, 10:22 PM
He obviously did have problems with sensitivity though, the glasses went on as soon as he left the stage.
To some extent he could have worn them for fashion in the earlier days

mozzarella
05-26-2009, 10:27 PM
Whenever there's a handrail by the stairs Elvis holds them when climbing onstage. Even in EOT you can see it multiple times. It was maybe just a habit or reflex at first. Anyway it looks very Elvis-ish... But in EIC he's holding up his hands while going up with Joe on his right side.

Jumpsuit Junkie
05-27-2009, 12:31 PM
He obviously did have problems with sensitivity though, the glasses went on as soon as he left the stage.
To some extent he could have worn them for fashion in the earlier days

I agree the flashbulbs could have been a factor in wearing the aviator style glasses. You can clearly see when you watch TTWII that the glasses have some sort of prescription.

The old style flashbulbs were nothing short of explosive devices that would cause problems for those constantly in there glare, see HERE (http://graflex.org/flash/technical.html)

elvispresleytheking
05-27-2009, 03:24 PM
Here is one from November 10, 1971, just one helping handhttp://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/files/5/4/8/4/Boston19711110.jpg