Unreleased Footages

[Maikcool]

I found THIS LISTING :!: of Elvis`s Unreleased Footages >>>>>: http://dessaintes.webbuilder02.hostbasket.com/page131454.htm
This UNRELEASED MATERIALS was filmed on professional camera!?. Your opinion? Can it be real?:blink:
I cannot believe, that somewhere lies 40 minute professional film of Madison Square Garden concert(for example), and no one makes money on that by this time. :hmm:

[elvis himselvis]

that will be wonderul if they realease this stuff(y)

[thehillbillycat]

Most of it is true fro the sources that I got. There is a few that is not listed though.


April 15, 1972 AS - Macon, Ga (Complete show)
April 15, 1972 ES - Macon, Ga
December 30, 1976 - Atlanta, GA (Complete show)
June 1, 1977 - Macon, Ga (Complete show)


two of my friends owns these footage and I been trying to get copies of them for months now.

[Maikcool]

Elvislennon2004, And this is all professional TV tape? Not 8mm? It`s unbelievable!

[jak]

The MSG shows were pro filmed with closed circut camera's for viewing in the luxury boxes.
Jak

[elvis himselvis]

If EPE wants to make money they really should release this!!!!
now i want to have it:D

[jak]

If EPE wants to make money they really should release this!!!!
now i want to have it:D

EPE doesnt own much or any unseen footage of Elvis.Im guessing they have some stuff possibly but basically private collector's are the ones who end up with it.
Jak

[srj1967]

Bollocks to all this, I say.

The only stuff I'd believe to be true is the MSG closed-circuit TV footage. Presumably, being CCTV, it was never permanently recorded.

I have a very brief couple of minutes of Japanese TV footage from one of the Hawaii 1972 shows (in appalling quality though). This was filmed as a practice run for the TV crews for the following January for the Aloha special.

Haven't watched it in years, but it's the Tiffany Suit (I think?) from several angles (similar to Aloha - it was the same arena) and there are Japanese subtitles at the beginning of each song. I know that a few mins of this was shown on TV in Hawaii for '72 news telecasts.

The only other "possible" filmed show is Phoenix, September 9, 1970. The TTWII cameras were there to capture the crowds (a lot of which was clumsily inserted into the Vegas footage in the movie, and slightly less clumsily in TTWII:SE in 2001).

So, would they have turned the cameras around to Elvis while they were there? Seems reasonable. And is it just me, or is there about 1.5sec of non-Vegas Elvis footage in TTWII during the kissing sequences? From Phoenix perhaps?

[jak]

Footage from the MSG concerts was recorded and exists.
Jak

[thehillbillycat]

Elvislennon2004, And this is all professional TV tape? Not 8mm? It`s unbelievable!


PROFESSIONAL 100%.


The shows that I have said that is complete is indeed complete. The bluish color that is around Elvis on the 8mm film fotage of Atlanta is not even there. One said that is the generation after generation that will do that. But I have a friend who also filmed that show in 8mm and the bluish color is there too and this is directly from the 8mm itself. The tape that I viewed that my friend has of the complete show the bluish color is completely gone. Elvis is made out perfectly and the audio even though it has the original audio, you can make out every word of the song and every word between each song that comes from him. There is a few different angles but it is complete. The audio is about the same as FTD New Years Eve maybe even better. You get to see him do part of The Wonder of You and when it comes to the line "You touch my hand I am a king". That is where he stop the song and says that "There's only one king". He points upwards at that point. When I get that video I will be transferring the audio from there and have the whole concert on cd.

It was filmed by a local TV station. All of the shows that I mention was filmed by there local TV stations.

[Indian Feather]

Then why is none of these shows released?

I mean, we got all those 8mm fantapes released, why havent the fans who own the professional footage released it?

[thehillbillycat]

You need to see it this way. If you have something that no one else has and you have it then the value is worth alot more.

[elvisdownunder]

This is something that majorly needs addressing. Macon and Atlanta 76 filmed?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats frigin hard to believe. How did these people obtain these tapes. Were they actually people from the news crew or what? You do realise that Atlanta is one fo the greatest shows Elvis EVER performed. It definitely, somehow needs releasing

[thehillbillycat]

They got these tapes by a sale that the TV stations had. They had to much stuff and some of these tapes got in there so my friends bought the tapes. Now for the Atlanta show being the best. That might be true but they do have it because I have personally seen these footage. I was the one who determed what the shows were because of a few reasons.


1. Macon Coliseum looks about the same as it did when Elvis performed there 5 times. Now since that I have seen those footage of Macon 72 AS & ES, and Macon 77 that Elvis looked great in the 72 footages and didn't look so well in the Macon 77.
2. As for Atlanta show, I knew it was that show as soon Elvis walked onto the stage. The songs are all there in full. The jumpusuit is the King of Spades. The band members are wearing red. It begins when 2001 theme starts and ends with the lines "Elvis has left the building".

[Dudcowboy_1]

There was always a saying "There was never any camrea on him." So, meaning he was Elvis, I'm sure news channels would come in an film all of it and then use the best for they had to show on the news.

Love to all,
Tim Dudley

[Maikcool]

They got these tapes by a sale that the TV stations had. They had to much stuff and some of these tapes got in there so my friends bought the tapes. Now for the Atlanta show being the best. That might be true but they do have it because I have personally seen these footage. I was the one who determed what the shows were because of a few reasons.


1. Macon Coliseum looks about the same as it did when Elvis performed there 5 times. Now since that I have seen those footage of Macon 72 AS & ES, and Macon 77 that Elvis looked great in the 72 footages and didn't look so well in the Macon 77.
2. As for Atlanta show, I knew it was that show as soon Elvis walked onto the stage. The songs are all there in full. The jumpusuit is the King of Spades. The band members are wearing red. It begins when 2001 theme starts and ends with the lines "Elvis has left the building".

It sounds pretty strange, but so good! Much coolest then ?Х-Files? or something, for me! :) If you have see this ultra RARE footage ? you very very lucky fan! I?m (and many thousands of people) can only dream about it!
May I ask you talk more, about Atlanta tape? Where from shooting camera? (on Scene or from audience?, balcony?) How many perspective? Can we see Elvis close? Have a zoom? How clear image?

I thank in advance for the answer.

[Maikcool]

I want to explain why I`m interested about Atlanta 30.12.1976.
I Have it in (8mm), and this is amazing
Concert!(y) Very touched moment, then all auditory and ?Sweet Inspirations? sing ?Happy birthday Elvis?? Although this is the poor sign to congratulate earlier than the period with the birthday.

[thehillbillycat]

It sounds pretty strange, but so good! Much coolest then ?Х-Files? or something, for me! :) If you have see this ultra RARE footage ? you very very lucky fan! I?m (and many thousands of people) can only dream about it!
May I ask you talk more, about Atlanta tape? Where from shooting camera? (on Scene or from audience?, balcony?) How many perspective? Can we see Elvis close? Have a zoom? How clear image?

I thank in advance for the answer.


There is several different angles. All angles you can make out Elvis' face. Some you can see his face but not in detail like some of the other angles.

These are in any kind of order on the angles but it will give you an idea. Most has none of the footage zoom in on him that I remember.


Angle one: Directly in front of the stage but a few rows back. Somewhere between 10 to 20 rows from the stage. Elvis face is in very good detail and no zoom was needed to see his face at all. Detail on the King of Spades will take your breath away. Such detail on that jumpsuit. Badn members are seen with detail to a point. You don't get to see them well since the spotlight is on Elvis all the time or when Charlie Hodge give Elvis scarves and hold the microphone during songs. This is one of three of the best angles.

Angle two: This is to the right of the stage (Elvis' left). ABout the same amount of rows as angle one. Same as before, Elvis' face is in very good detail and no zoom is needed what so ever that I remember. Detail of the King of Spades will also leave you breathless. Piano player can be seen but since the spotlight isn't on him you can't make him out real good.

Angle three: Complete opposite of Angle two. JD and Stamp, Sweet Inspirations, Kathy Westmoreland (you can sometimes spot her), and John Wilkinson can be seen from I remember.

The other angles which is three more are futher back from these three. Has been a while since I have this so I can give you a very good read on this. But I do remember that one is in the balcony. But the remaining angles you can see Elvis' face but not in detail as the first three.


Not only do you hear or see Happy Birhtday to Elvis being sung. Elvis does sing a few lines of The Wonder of You. He stop after the line "You touched my hand and I am King". Then he says that he isn't King and points up and says that he is king. I have talked to several people that went to this show and they all clearly remembers this but when they tell that to other Elvis fans who thinks they know all they laugh in their faces. This footage who make those know it all fans who thinks that to take that and read more info on Elvis.

But the audio must have been spliced into the footage later on. Because with the different angles it would been different quality of audio each time but it doesn't change. Audio remains the same. Quality I would put as high as FTD New Years Eve or King Goes Bananas.

[jak]

It sounds like youve seen 8mm film.The difference between 8mm and pro shot is incredible.Most fans have only seen 8mm film that's been copied several times over.You may have seen 1st or 2nd generation film.The dvd Blue Hawaii 72 is a good example of nice 8mm film quality.If it were pro shot you would probably have original audio with it.If the tv station filmed it I doubt they would have taken the time to dubb bootleg audio on top of it.Somebody at the station could have filmed it but they could have used 8mm camera's.
Jak

[EP75]

This is all possible. I have seen footage of EP's 1975 shows in Huntsville filmed by WHNT 19 news station. But now when they talk about the Huntsville shows, they only use stills of the show but outside footage of him arriving.

[CHRISTIAN M]

This is all possible. I have seen footage of EP's 1975 shows in Huntsville filmed by WHNT 19 news station. But now when they talk about the Huntsville shows, they only use stills of the show but outside footage of him arriving.

comming from the arriving footage
http://whnt.images.worldnow.com/images/3333041_BG2.jpg

christian M

[jak]

There was footage taken of his New Year's show in Pontiac 75 also by the local news.
Jak

[CHRISTIAN M]

There was footage taken of his New Year's show in Pontiac 75 also by the local news.
Jak

HI JAK
can you tell us more
have you seen this footage ?
(if yes can you give a detail of the footage?)
from wich station tv the footage come ?


concerning the Macon june 1977 ,this day a CBS team meet Elvis for the special CBS 1977 contract signature
maybe a team withe mobile camera shoot some fooage backstage and during the concert

christian M

[thehillbillycat]

About the New Years Eve 75 show. Yes, it was filmed but not much of it. As a matter of fact from sources that I have a few songs was filmed but only a few seconds worth of each song was filmed. All songs was not filmed and no song is complete. I did see some stills that was posted on a site but can't remember what site. I don't know but the quality is ok but it is better than 8mm so I have to say that it might been filmed by 16mm. But I don't know who filmed it. I don't know what station it was.


jak it does have the original audio to it. For that no one has the complete show in audio format that is in the same quality as the FTD New Years Eve. The audio cd that is out there comes from the 8mm footage because I have that cd of that show. I am saying that who ever spliced this footage together must of used the same audio source for all of it. I believe that one of the angles had to been fillmed completely but all of that angle is not on the video but the audio was used for the splicing of this show. As for being 8mm, I know that it isn't 8mm because it doesn't have the lines, little spots and so on that 8mm film would have. 8mm film gets Scratch up easy and causes these problems.

As Christian M said, on June 1, 1977 in Macon, GA Elvis would sign a contract for a special that would aired in the fall. That special would be filmed during his next tour. He signed that contract in his hotel room in Macon. On the footage of Macon 77 that my friend has that can be seen at the beginning of the footage.

As I have said I am still trying to get these footage of Macon 77, 72 and Atlanta 76. But I haven't seen these guys in a while. I have seen the footage for myself so I know that they have it. I got the stuff they wanted for it but I just haven't seen them.

[jak]

HI JAK
can you tell us more
have you seen this footage ?
(if yes can you give a detail of the footage?)
from wich station tv the footage come ?


concerning the Macon june 1977 ,this day a CBS team meet Elvis for the special CBS 1977 contract signature
maybe a team withe mobile camera shoot some fooage backstage and during the concert

christian M

Christian
A friend of mine viewed the film from the Pontiac show from the station's archives.He stated the entire show was completely filmed.He was at the show originally also.He never mentioned the station's name if my memory is correct.The quality of the footage was very high.It's not easy getting a station to release footage it owns.Years ago we tried to get some footage that a local station took of Elvis So Bend show but it was impossible.We were told it usually took a court order for them to release their footage.
Jak

[0349054]

I'm sure that EPE would be interested in it and with Sillermans money they could easily acquire the footage, as everything has a price.

I'm always very sceptical about these types of stories, it just makes very little sense for TV stations to hang onto footage that they don't air when they could cash in for a large amount from EPE.

[wild]

Christian
A friend of mine viewed the film from the Pontiac show from the station's archives.He stated the entire show was completely filmed.He was at the show originally also.He never mentioned the station's name if my memory is correct.The quality of the footage was very high.It's not easy getting a station to release footage it owns.Years ago we tried to get some footage that a local station took of Elvis So Bend show but it was impossible.We were told it usually took a court order for them to release their footage.
Jak


I have footage of a concert that was televised but in a different region to me. I phoned the tv company it cost me ?25 for a dvd but was worth it. Has anyone thought to just phone and ask

[0349054]

I have footage of a concert that was televised but in a different region to me. I phoned the tv company it cost me ?25 for a dvd but was worth it. Has anyone thought to just phone and ask

What was the TV station?

How is the footage quality wise?

[sergio_luiz]

We recently did a interview with Joseph Tunzi, and he comments about professional footage shot by TV stations. Take a look:

http://www.elvisbrasil.com/epbrasil/jtinterview.htm

[wild]

What was the TV station?

How is the footage quality wise?


i should of said it had nothing to do with Elvis, but it was a present for my sister.
We live in England and the programme was on in wales.
She couldnt see it so i phoned the station who showed it ITV it sent me a dvd of the programme that had been on weeks before, i dont know why people havent tried it in america
(y)

[mubarak]

hi,
good thread this one.does jak or elvis lennon (or anybodyelse ) have or know of more detailed information of unreleased pro-shot footage 69-77.
nice to hear pontiac new years eve 75 beining filmed ,what about pittsburg
new years eve 76(that would be awsome). what about huntsville 75 great
concerts these. does EP75 have any further info on huntsville 75 ,he says he has seen footage,more details please.

[thehillbillycat]

There is talk going around that NYE 76 was filmed but not completely filmed.

[Maikcool]

...another question. :king: Your opinion? These photo can be pro. screenshot? : http://elvisconcerts.com/pictures/c740511.htm
May 11, 1974. (8:30pm). Los Angeles, CA.

[thehillbillycat]

Those are regular pictures that fans took. It might look like pro screenshots but they was taken by a fan with a camera.
I can rule out 8mm because their is no imperfections in the picture. What I mean imperfection is no scratches, lines and spots that a film would have. I can also rule out professional footage because of the quality of the shot. It looks to good to be that. It might look like a professional screenshot but it is not.

[memphis 77]

i know that the benefit show from may 75 was definetly taped by camera crews[2] i was at this show, a canadian collector has this , and its nice, only 5 songs were recorded from cc- if you love me, the footage that christian has is only a smidget, as it is at least 10 minutes , where the crew follow E.P. and ask him about his fans in alabama, and he says he loves em[thats it] and the quality is fantastic, this was filmed with 16 mm up close and red sticks his hand over the camera after the comment.and wkb nbc definetly recorded the msg, shows, again not in its entirety, this has bin shown a few times on dateline show with the memphis mafia interviews etc, and will be in th enew tunzi dvd.

[thehillbillycat]

i know that the benefit show from may 75 was definetly taped by camera crews[2] i was at this show, a canadian collector has this , and its nice, only 5 songs were recorded from cc- if you love me, the footage that christian has is only a smidget, as it is at least 10 minutes , where the crew follow E.P. and ask him about his fans in alabama, and he says he loves em[thats it] and the quality is fantastic, this was filmed with 16 mm up close and red sticks his hand over the camera after the comment.and wkb nbc definetly recorded the msg, shows, again not in its entirety, this has bin shown a few times on dateline show with the memphis mafia interviews etc, and will be in th enew tunzi dvd.

Yes, that was filmed but not completely. I would say only 10 minutes was filmed. But maybe more of it exists because that it was a benefit show. NBC didn't record all of the MSG shows. They only recorded only one. That show was the 9th.

[mubarak]

elvis lennon says-There is talk going around that NYE 76 was filmed but not completely filmed.
has anybody seen this footage or any more info

EP75 says- This is all possible. I have seen footage of EP's 1975 shows in Huntsville filmed by WHNT 19 news station. But now when they talk about the Huntsville shows, they only use stills of the show but outside footage of him arriving.

how much and how long is this footage and what was the quality like ?
was it close-up footage ? do you know who now has this footage ?

[memphis 77]

elvis lennon the aft show from the 10th was also filmed first 2 songs , this was one of the video items in THE COLONELS collection, along with footage from L.A. 74, both eve and aft performances, tunzi has seen this in it's entirety, again from hand held 16mm reels.

[thehillbillycat]

elvis lennon says-There is talk going around that NYE 76 was filmed but not completely filmed.
has anybody seen this footage or any more info

EP75 says- This is all possible. I have seen footage of EP's 1975 shows in Huntsville filmed by WHNT 19 news station. But now when they talk about the Huntsville shows, they only use stills of the show but outside footage of him arriving.

how much and how long is this footage and what was the quality like ?
was it close-up footage ? do you know who now has this footage ?


NYE 76 was filmed but the footage is only about 20 minutes long. The quality is ok from what I have heard. Not the best in the world for professional footage but it is ok. Elvis' face can be made out in the the footage but the other singers faces can't be made out really good. The sound is terrible. It is like the worst audio recording that is available from what I was told. The sound that was in the Civic Center wasn't real good unless you was near the stage. I know a person who went to the NYE 76 show and said that he could hardly make out Elvis singing. He said it was like walking into a place with way to many echoes. Now the footage that we all have is near the stage and the sound is good on some of it. But when you got back further from the stage the worst the sound got. That is how I know about the footage. If this is true that show was professional filmed it isn't worth to have at all. The 8mm footage is much better. What ever station filmed that did do a good job.

memphis 77 - I did hear for a while that the afternoon show of Huntsville was filmed but it was not clear how much of it was filmed. I can believe that LA 74 was fillmed but I have never even seen a little bit of it. I have seen alot of professional footage of Elvis on stage here on the internet.

[mubarak]

memphis 77 -how much and what quality is the LA 74 footage (afternoon and evening shows)
do you know if there is any pro-shot footage from 75
especially huntsville 75 ?

[elvisdownunder]

Maybe we have already seen this footage of New Years Eve 76. The close ups of Elvis in very good quality. Maybe it was'nt filmed by a fan, but a news camera. The sound is as you describe, i thik its the one thats been available for a long time.

[thehillbillycat]

Maybe we have already seen this footage of New Years Eve 76. The close ups of Elvis in very good quality. Maybe it was'nt filmed by a fan, but a news camera. The sound is as you describe, i thik its the one thats been available for a long time.


No, that is 8mm footage. The quality is good but not good enough to be professional footage. When you see other members faces you can make out their faces real good on that angle.

[mubarak]

what about memphis march 74 there have been rumours that this was filmed
by 2 pro-cameras.

[thehillbillycat]

It was not the complete show as the rumor have said. Only about a third of the show was filmed.

[memphis 77]

mubarak , the la films were filmed in 16mm and as i stated very nice, years ago sheriff hanna said he had the footage of the entrance that was captured by local tv station, yes there is some of the huntsville performances, i saw cc, love me and polk, they were filmed with vtr cmaras excellent and owned by canadian super fan. Alot of stations filmed bits and pieces and filed them away or erased them, especially if they were were taped by vtr cameras, as tape was reused, there was even film of elvis performing in toronto maple leaf gardens 16 mm footage shown now and again on local tv staion, owners chum city tv, had sold the film to local fan.

[Unchained Melody]

Maybe we have already seen this footage of New Years Eve 76. The close ups of Elvis in very good quality. Maybe it was'nt filmed by a fan, but a news camera. The sound is as you describe, i thik its the one thats been available for a long time.

I agree Scott, one of the best 8mm films i've seen...the only one that come close in picture quality is the "Omaha '74" show.

[thehillbillycat]

Omaha 74 is also 8mm footage. When you are around films like me you will notice what is professional footage and what is not. New Years Eve footage that was filmed close up is the best possible film that you could but at that time. That is what makes that footage good. The higher the film the best quality picture it will turn out.

[mubarak]

memphis 77 and elvis lennon thanks for your input any other concerts that were filmed especially in 74 and 75.

[mubarak]

why don`t we start a petition for EPE and Silverman to BUY ALL THIS
UNRELEASED PRO-SHOT FOOTAGE. they can then mix it with soundboard
sound to get best picture with sound.they can digitally remaster the picture.
this can then be released mainstream on dvd in a series of live in concert dvds.this is what us fans really want and not those stupid plastic ducks etc.

[thehillbillycat]

That either will do two things.

1. It will take years to get them all and alot of the footage itsn't complete and that it might only take 2 or three discs.

2. Some of the people who has these footage owns these footage and they will not give them up. They bought it or got it a different way. They won't simply give it up because EPE wants them to.


The friends I got said this and this is a quote "It is not that we want the fans to see the footage. It just that we own something of Elvis that no one else has in their collection."

So if you look at it like that it is more money the less copies you got. I would like to see it too and love for other fans to see it too but it is simply that the people who owns the professional footage has something that no one else has. That is like you owning a actual Elvis jumpsuit. Would you want to give it up?

Also as I have said they won't give it up simply EPE tells them too. EPE doesn't own the rights to those professional footage. It is really the ones who record it who owns it. There isn't a complete list of all the professional footage of Elvis out there. Yes, we have the one that was provided here but that might not be all of it. EPE also can't buy the outtakes of Elvis On Tour and TTWII. MGM owns those movies and they won't sell those to EPE.

[jak]

The sad truth is that there is no large market for this material.Hardcore fans that collect would desire it and that's about it.The general public doesnt care and to be honest most people that call themselves fans wouldnt rush out and buy it either.The fan base that I would call hardore is relatively small.Not enough people to make it worthwhile to spend money on a release of an obscure concert performance from a tour no matter what the quality.People that have some of this stuff are not sitting on a goldmine like they might think.The days of truly big bucks for Elvis material ended many years ago.
Jak

[elvis himselvis]

doesn''t have EPE any footage of elvis that nobody else owns?

[Unchained Melody]

doesn''t have EPE any footage of elvis that nobody else owns?

Yes, the Elvis In Concert CBS Special....i do not see EPE or anyone else for that matter releasing 8mm footage filmed by fans if they want even release the EOT or TTWII Outtakes now !

[mubarak]

what i suggested that epe and sillverman BUY OR TRADE with these collectors
for the rare pro-shot footage,or alternatively they could lease the footage
for money.then they could release to us on dvd.ther is a market out there for good quality elvis dvds.look at sales of aloha and 68 special both sold very well.any other pro-shot footage out there 69-77 not already mentioned above
in this thread anyone ?

[jak]

what i suggested that epe and sillverman BUY OR TRADE with these collectors
for the rare pro-shot footage,or alternatively they could lease the footage
for money.then they could release to us on dvd.ther is a market out there for good quality elvis dvds.look at sales of aloha and 68 special both sold very well.any other pro-shot footage out there 69-77 not already mentioned above
in this thread anyone ?

There is a world of difference between two historic events and just some show on the road.Just an ordinary Elvis concert even that is pro shot does not have mass appeal.You look at the possibility through the eyes of a fan not as businessman.A dvd release of an entire Elvis concert just doesnt have the intrest to justify it.If it did I think somebody would have done it long ago.
Jak

[thehillbillycat]

That is 100% right. There isn't a big market for a regular show of Elvis. The ones of 68, TTWI, EOT, and Aloha are totally different subject. Those shows are historic due to the reasons that every Elvis fan (Hardcore fans and non-Hardcore fans) knows of those shows. Many doesn't realize of Elvis In Concert shows because it was only shown twice and that was it. The only historic concert that is on audio that everyone know is MSG concerts, Aloha and 68. That is it. The average fan doesn't care for the rest at all.

[jak]

I remember when I first got the outtakes of Elvis On Tour.I thought I had the holy grail.I took them to a local Elvis meetup to show them to everybody thinking they would be blown away.Nobody could have cared less.Non fans and sadly the overwhelming majority of fans just dont care about this stuff.
Jak

[jak]

I would also say that even a deluxe edition of EOT will be a risky venture no matter what it includes.I dont see it selling that well and that is depresssing.
Jak

[thehillbillycat]

I have given alot of Elvis material and only a few, key words Only a few were blown away. The reason why. Well, for one I had Southbound and since I lived near Macon and they do to. Well, that is the only reason why they was blown away. Having a show near the place where they live. The other stuff was great but these are only a few people.

[mubarak]

a dvd of june 72 madison square gardens would make a terrific release
of all the pro-shot footage available(all 4 shows)

[Unchained Melody]

I agree. I think that would be a big seller if they had taped (Professionally) all 4 of the MSG shows...

As for fan footage of concerts getting released officially, sadly it will never happen...just as these guys have said, the general public and even alot of Elvis fans don't care for that type of things ...its indeed very sad to..:'( ...as i treasure all of the 8mm etc footage I own ! So if it never gets released officially, don't bother me much as i have quiet abit in my collection :D !

[thehillbillycat]

All four shows was not professional filmed at all. Only one show was. Any other footage that is available and is call professional footage is a big lie and you got suckered. Only the June 9 show was professional film and all of the show wasn't film. I know this for the reason that one of my friends who I just met work at MSG at that time and never saw a professional camera there. Only part of the June 9th show was filmed. Plus, there is no soundboard of the June 9th show. So it wouldn't make any sense to release that show being only part of it and no soundboard or RCA recording. So don't expect the release on FTD or RCA of any professional footage of Elvis from 1969 to 1977. The only one that you can expect is TTWII footage, EOT footage and Elvis In Concert footage (If release at all). That is the only things that I can see release. Nothing more.

[Unchained Melody]

Thanks for that info ElvisLennin ;) .

Interesting, i never knew any of the MSG shows were filmed professionally. Half the show or not, I would still love to see that footage even if there isn't a soundboard with it !

As for seeing no shows from 69-77, your probably right...but if EOT outtakes is releaed (EVENTUALLY), we might see the complete shows that they filmed for the Elvis On Tour movie :hmm: ...that would be awesome !

[mubarak]

i think at least 2 shows were partly shot with 16mm(?) local tv news cameras
some of the footage has been circulating on the web for a while now.one chap called rob in the u.s claims to have 3 shows (40 mins each) footage
shot by local news tv(unverified by anyone else).

[Unchained Melody]

I've seen some of the fan shots from the MSG shows...like what is on the Star dvd "Elvis On Tour Through My Eyes". That footage is awesome, and it was synched perfect with sound.

[thehillbillycat]

i think at least 2 shows were partly shot with 16mm(?) local tv news cameras
some of the footage has been circulating on the web for a while now.one chap called rob in the u.s claims to have 3 shows (40 mins each) footage
shot by local news tv(unverified by anyone else).

TV Cameras were not allowed in MSG after the first show. Only 8mm footage is available and they was filmed by ABC and that is it. As for Rob having three shows of MSG, I wouldn't believe if I was you. Only 8mm footage is available for all of the MSG concerts. Only one show was filmed by 16mm which that was the first show. I have confirmed on all the MSG stuff that is out there.

As for professional film footage you need to know that there is two different kind of professional footage.

1. 16mm film cameras were mostly professionally done but some fans have 16mm cameras too. I have one and at that time it would cost about 70 to 80 dollars for a camera like I got and the film would be about 5 to 15 dollars a roll. Depending on the quality you want it to be in. The best was the highest. So all 16mm footage that is out there of Elvis might say that it is professionally done. It may look like it but it is really not.

2. Some TV stations like ABC, NBC, and CBS use mobile 8mm cameras. Sometimes that footage will be confuse as being professionally done but they are not. Watch the footage that is on Rare Moments of the King. Some MSG footage is on their. Now that footage was filmed by ABC. That footage is classify as being professionally done.

elvispresleyfan1935 - get Rockin' in the Garden. It has for both the June 10th shows over 20 minutes of each show with added RCA recordings. That footage is 8mm. It is great to have. It is not the complete show but some songs are complete. I believe you will enjoy seeing it.

[Unchained Melody]

ElvisLennin-

I will be getting that DVD in a couple of weeks...thanks for the recommendation(y) .

I can not wait to see the footage on it..

[mubarak]

is there any footage of say dallas75, this is rumoered to be pro-shot.
what about cincinatti march76 ?

[Unchained Melody]

is there any footage of say dallas75, this is rumoered to be pro-shot.
what about cincinatti march76 ?

I've not seen or heard of footage from Dallas '75 show :hmm: . Maybe someone else knows something i don't though.

[Matt]

I have a question. I have read on different forums what people thought were filmed professionaly and what wasn't. My question is this.......How do we know what was filmed pro shot and what was not??? Where are you all getting this info from??? As for me, I am 100% content with 8mm footage. There is alot and I mean alot that is out there in great quality. Also another question if there was only about 20 minutes of the nye show from '76 filmed, why is it the video runs for over 40 minutes?

[Unchained Melody]

[quote=Matt;89004]

As for me, I am 100% content with 8mm footage. There is alot and I mean alot that is out there in great quality.

--------------------------------

Same here Matt. There is alot of good 8mm footage out there, and that keeps me satisfied (y) . Until i see proof of this so called "pro" footage, I want get my hopes up..

[CHRISTIAN M]

HI
More of one MSG shows are filmed by what i named in my professional listing footage
For MSG shows 16 mm cameras and video camera are used
16 mm camera used by TV Crews and Jonas Mekas movie director
Video black and white camera on tripod to the left stage
You can easy see the difference betwen 8 mm camera fans and pro 16 mm
16 mm don t need special light for see all details
You can see quality of 16 mm footage from J.Mekas here
http://www.skip.at/AT/filme/trailer/trailerstage/HiRez.php?filmnr=1737
Nothing to do withe 8 mm cameras
Christian M

[Unchained Melody]

Christian,

Thanks alot buddy for posting that link :D

Wow, that footage is absolutley great:notworthy , that definitley is professional (y) (y) (y) . It went a little fast, but atleast i got to see it :notworthy !

So do you have the whole show in that quality :supriced: ,

Brad

[thehillbillycat]

Oh I forgot about that footage. That is the June 10th Evening show. Oh, to the answer to your question elvispresleyfan1935 There is only a few minutes more of that footage. It wasn't all filmed. That was filmed using 16mm camera.

[CHRISTIAN M]

HI according to Jonas Mekas he film withe his 16mm camera around 40 minutes of this show
he obtain the permit to film directly by the colonel Parker
and send to him a copy of the 16mm footage,if the footage is now in EPE hands is the question,i aske 2 years ago to EPE but don t have appopriate reply

Christian M

[mubarak]

nice little clip there christian, thanks for posting link.intresting to note the director says he filmed 40mins(thats most of the show).this is the type of footage out there in collectors hands.
they should follow the kings lead and share with others!:xmas: :lol: :D

[Unchained Melody]

HI according to Jonas Mekas he film withe his 16mm camera around 40 minutes of this show
he obtain the permit to film directly by the colonel Parker
and send to him a copy of the 16mm footage,if the footage is now in EPE hands is the question,i aske 2 years ago to EPE but don t have appopriate reply

Christian M

That is very interesting Christian.

That would be awesome if EPE does have 40 mintues of that footage ! :D

Would be so great to see this released(y)

[wild]

HI according to Jonas Mekas he film withe his 16mm camera around 40 minutes of this show
he obtain the permit to film directly by the colonel Parker
and send to him a copy of the 16mm footage,if the footage is now in EPE hands is the question,i aske 2 years ago to EPE but don t have appopriate reply

Christian M


Magnificent clip (y)

Any idea why it was speeded up?

[CHRISTIAN M]

Magnificent clip (y)

Any idea why it was speeded up?

HI
Jonas Mekas is psykadelik (hope it s the good word in english) movie director
he do many short footage in experimental style
the clip posted from MSG is a special trailer do for a viennal festival in Austria fews years ago
CHRISTIAN M

[Unchained Melody]

HI
Jonas Mekas is psykadelik (hope it s the good word in english) movie director
he do many short footage in experimental style
the clip posted from MSG is a special trailer do for a viennal festival in Austria fews years ago
CHRISTIAN M

Well, it was still cool getting to see it Christian (y)

Again, Thanks ;)

Brad

[mubarak]

well it would be cool to see a lot more of this type of pro-shot footage which is currently gathering dust in collectors hands

[Unchained Melody]

Yeah and the bad thing is these collectors who have this pro footage will not ever sale it or release it if they know that they're the only ones in the world that have it :'( . Very sad imo. If I had it, i think i would want to share it with all Elvis fans, but thats just me i guess.

[mubarak]

like i said earlier these fans/collectors should have a rethink and follow elvis
example and learn to share/give to others. if this means doining a deal with
epe/silverman(for money/trade or lease the footage) so it can be released to
us fans.that would be a great gesture to follow the kings lead with kindness
and good gesture.

[Dudcowboy_1]

I can honestly say there is PROFESSIONAL Footage of California in 1974 and in Baton Rouge in 74. Because not going say who but dear friend sent me Christmas Present of DVD with footage on it.

To my friend thank you so much for the package and I will send out your package after christmas. You are true friend and thank you!

Love to all,
Tim Dudley "A Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/

[CHRISTIAN M]

I can honestly say there is PROFESSIONAL Footage of California in 1974 and in Baton Rouge in 74. Because not going say who but dear friend sent me Christmas Present of DVD with footage on it.

To my friend thank you so much for the package and I will send out your package after christmas. You are true friend and thank you!

Love to all,
Tim Dudley "A Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/

HI I know for the Los Angeles May 11,1974 footage hotel arrival leaving the hotel to the shows etc..
BUT for Baton Rouge june 18 ,1974 it s new for me are able to post
captures or clip from this thanks
Christian M

[alstrada]

http://dessaintes.webbuilder02.hostbasket.com/images/Scan10094(2)(5).jpghttp://dessaintes.webbuilder02.hostbasket.com/images/Scan10096(7).jpghttp://dessaintes.webbuilder02.hostbasket.com/images/Scan10097(1)(5).jpg

[CHRISTIAN M]

HI Alstrada
that s just a copy of the listing posted in many websites and forums
christian M

[alstrada]

Hello,

Yes, I have made this listing myself after long research. I place it on web since few months ago.

I have replace right today with other layout I think its little bit more clear.

Thank U for your appreciation,

Alstrada

My own site :

www.rareelvispresley.com

TCB

[CHRISTIAN M]

Hello,

Yes, I have made this listing myself after long research. I place it on web since few months ago.

I have replace right today with other layout I think its little bit more clear.

Thank U for your appreciation,

Alstrada

My own site :

www.rareelvispresley.com (http://www.rareelvispresley.com)

TCB

Escuse me wich long research ?:hmm:
it s a copy words by words
of a listing i post more of two years ago (Sat 23 Oct 2004 - 17:11)
on my Elvis page
http://elvis-rare-footage.forumactif.com/viewtopic.forum?t=94

http://elvis-rare-footage.forumactif.com/viewtopic.forum?t=203

i think if you want the peoples looking a listing or news and take this seriously , you need to be clear and honnest,
WHEN YOU COPY A LISTING IT S WELL TO GIVE THE SOURCE

Same to peoples telling i have see this,or a friend of me at this,
but i can t give his name
withe all this we lost our credit
escuse me but sometime we need to speak right and clear
we are on a topic on the Elvis pro footage existing
and not on dream or phantasm discusion
Christian M

[thehillbillycat]

I can remember seeing that list back about two years ago and Christian was the one who provided that list. I wasn't a member of the forum at that time but a friend provided me that list about two years ago. So it was he who researched it and not you alstrada.

[alstrada]

Huh !.............

[Unchained Melody]

Huh !.............

Give credit where its due ;)

Brad

[thehillbillycat]

Huh !.............
Christian M was the one and only one who research all that info. I clearly remember that. It was two years when all that knowledge of the professional footage came about. It was him who created the http://elvis-rare-footage.forumactif.com page. On that page he gave the fans a small piece of unseen footage. So you need to give him the credit of that list. You say that you did that list a few months ago. One question, How did I know about that list two years before you created it? I even told Christian M of footage that my two friends has in their hands as I type this out. One friend has both Macon 72 shows which one is complete and one incomplete and Macon 77 which is the complete show with Elvis in his hotel room signing the contract to do the upcoming TV Special which would become Elvis In Concert. He is wanting that part of the footage and as soon as I get that footage he will be getting a copy of that tape. My other friend has Atlanta December 30, 1976 show which is complete. Now, I might be giving copies of that to some of the people who went to that show and also Christian M will be getting that as well as soon as I can get it. So did you know of those footage that I have mention? Do you know of the four songs that was filmed professionally of Decmeber 15, 1975 MS? I think I told that to Christian M. I have that in my collection. But I can't find the tape it was recorded on yet which I am still looking. I don't tell alot of people about that footage that I have but it needs to be let out since you supposely did the research of that list that you provided. Which I know Christian was the true one who made that list first.

[Dudcowboy_1]

Yea Christian I will try my best get picture with my webcam torromow. I believe its Baton Rouge because it was the Embordered Eagle and I believe he only wore it once and that was in Baton Rouge right?

Its in opening credits of this DVD I got from a friend. Its awesome DVD!

Love to all,
Tim Dudley "A Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/

[thehillbillycat]

He wore the American Eagle on more shows than just the Baton Rouge show. He wore it the night before at the 8:30 pm show, June 23, 1974 8:30pm show, June 25, 1974 show, June 29, 1974 8:30pm show, July 1, 1974 show. Plus he wore it at more shows.

[CHRISTIAN M]

HI
Thanks Dudcowboy_1 withe this i can maybe help you to confirm the exact date !(y)

Thanks Elvislennon2004 i m very exited to know you send me those footage when you have :notworthy

concerning my words in my last message , i don t post for tell i m the best ,the one or the first to have post this listing
i have share my researchs ,for the peoples know ,what is in the archives,i have work many years for know that !
i have meet important peoples from U.S TV ,i work for French tv congrest, http://elvis-rare-footage.forumactif.com/viewtopic.forum?t=79
and have meet and speak withe serious source and collectors
Same of J.Tunzi ,Sherif Hanna ,Andrew Solt ,Sean Shaver ,Bob Heis,ect....
i have obtain these last years many news who confirm
the existence of the footage on my list,i have seen and obtain some paperworks from movie or tv companies
http://img109.imagevenue.com/loc358/th_53664_App0003_123_358lo.jpg (http://img109.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53664_App0003_123_358lo.jpg) http://img25.imagevenue.com/loc510/th_53802_App00015_123_510lo.jpg (http://img25.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53802_App00015_123_510lo.jpg)
my goal is only to share this withe you ,i m an Elvis fans and collector,and very exited by all this footage existing,
my research listing appear on fews websites and forums,it s ok for me,but when i see others telling it s from my researchs ,i do not appreciate :mad:
now all has the right to critic or telling this do not exist,
but the time ( i hope for us ) proove i m in the true !

Christian M

[thehillbillycat]

Christian M, I know that you might not be the best because there is always someone out there who is better. But you have done a excellent job on the research. As for the footage, as soon as I get them I am willing to share as long it doesn't go out to a mass market. And I think that you Christian should get a copy of them since you have so much on Elvis already. There is no problem with that. I just don't like people who is a fan of Elvis to credit themself as doing something that they didn't do like what alstrada been saying that he research that up.

[Unchained Melody]

Wow, all this talk about all of this professional footage has me so excited (y) (y) . Sounds like you have a collection to die for ElvisLennon and Christian :notworthy :notworthy .

It would be the happiest day of my life to see Pro footage of Macon '77 or Atlanta '76 !!!

Excellent job on the research fellows :)

Brad

[mubarak]

well said elvis lennon, i agree with you and christian you are correct you did put out first pro-shot footage about 2 years ago.
keep up the excellent work christian and thanks for shareing your
footage/clips on your great website.
dudcowboy i would love a copy of this dvd of this pro-shot footage from 74. elvis lennon and anybody out with any rare pro-shot footage i would love a copy and thanks to anyone for sharing
merry christmas.:xmas: (y) :newyear: :lol: :notworthy :newyear:

[memphis 77]

mubarak, lets just say that there are many collectors out there who have some of this footage , some in nice quality, and some in so/so quality, the reason most don't post it is because they are scared of the reprecutions from E.P.E, lets not forget what happened to TUNZI some years back when he was workin on the ENTER THE DRAGON, dvd project, and he got a cease and decist order, and he was pretty tight with them,. Even those who have photos [yours truly] originals are reluctant to post, for the simple reason that once you post them in time others will claim it as theirs, i would like to purpose to anyone out there that has some OF the footage that we are talking about that i will gladl;y trade my original 16mm, and vtr tapes , especially memphis , july 5th show[pro shot] 22 minutes, with that of the same quality, no b.s. i will send it fed ex to a chosen moderator, and we record the event on video.

[CHRISTIAN M]

HI memphis 77
Can you post a clip or capture from your Memphis June (not july )1975 pro footage or maybe if you want keep confidential post on link fews days and send the link in PM

Christian M

[diamond]

I think all this talk about who has what is very exciting, but Elvislennon, can you tell your friends to hurry up and give you what they have because I am fit to burst here :P :lol:

[0349054]

Don't hold your breath! lol

[thehillbillycat]

I think all this talk about who has what is very exciting, but Elvislennon, can you tell your friends to hurry up and give you what they have because I am fit to burst here :P :lol:

First thing first, As soon as I get the footage that my two friends has I got to get a copy of it to my friend who went to the Atlanta show. Then I have to make more copies for people like Christian. So it will be a while before anyone else will get copies of them. But there is one small condition when you get it. When ever you get it you ust not copy it for someone else. You need to let me do it. That is all I ask. We don't want to keep downgrading a copy so that it looks terrible. So my copy who be at best either second or thrid generation. But the quality is great from what I remember of it.

[mubarak]

memphis 77 and elvis lennon this is really getting very exciting.
p.s. dont forget my copies of rare footage .
christian, elvis lennon and memphis 77 your all a great example and nice to see
you follow elvis lead in giving/sharing with others.you all deserve a tcb medal
for the new years honours list for 2007:newyear: :lol: :D :newyear:

[Menwithbrokenhearts]

You know I haven't posted on here in a while. Things happening, bad storms and such. But all this talk on this thread has got me worked up again. What an amazing find to be able to view such wonderful footage. I really haven't wanted anything for Christmas this year, just for the kids, but you guys changed my mind. Please keep me in mind! I don't have much but I'll gladly trade or pay. Wow you guys, this is great! Thank you.....:D

[Unchained Melody]

Me too fellows. Always wanting to see new footage...especially this kind (y) .

Brad

[memphis 77]

IN RESPONSE TO CHRISTIAN, I WILL TRADE ONLY , you have a website called rare footage , can you at least come up with one film that is the rarest of the rare and post it here , and i shall do the same,on you tube, also can someone tell me how to do this, and 33 why don't you get off this forum, unless you have unreleased footage that you can trade with me, on this board, so i emplore you to do so or shut the hell up.I will be back on line on the 27th , should give alot of time to come up with something, and christian, please come up with some thing original and unreleased-pro, what about the alabama show, in whatever quality. Again let me state this clearly anyone who has unreleased original pro footage, in whatever quality , i will gladly trade my memphis footage 76, all 22 minutes. I would also like to trade original concert/candid pictures with others who have original photos with negs and contact sheets, of shows they took photos at.

[0349054]

zzzzz

*yawn*

[memphis 77]

so 33 looks like your the one who has jack s..t in your collection, go back to the dole office, this is for REAL ELVIS FANS .

[0349054]

Lol - your the judge of Elvis fans? I think your still annoyed about the way I showed you up months ago.......you still haven't managed to get over it, and why be so defensive on a message board, maybe you forgot to take your tablets?

I don't go to dole offices - no disrespect to people like you who do - and honestly unless you won money - you don't strike me as someone who posses the intelligence to make much!

[CHRISTIAN M]

[quote=memphis 77;89628]IN RESPONSE TO CHRISTIAN, I WILL TRADE ONLY , you have a website called rare footage , can you at least come up with one film that is the rarest of the rare and post it here quote]

HI Memphis 74
i don t aske you to share your footage for free,we are speaking of a clip of 5 to 10 seconds or photos capture from the footage
for see quality and proove footage is in your hands
i m in France and you in Canada i m sorry but i can t come to see
for propose you a trade

concerning my Elvis page i have shared many news concerning footage and post many captures or clip from ultra rare footage in my collection
same of TTWII /ON TOUR/COMPLETE INDIANAPOLIS AIRPORT FOOTAGE 1977 AND CLIPS FROM SHOW/HAWAII 1973 ARRIVAL ALTERNATE ANGLE /KNBC VEGAS CONCERT CLIPS ETC....

Christian M

[mubarak]

memphis 77 and christian i hope you can both come to some sort of deal/trade so that we can all possibly see some of this rare footage.
merry christmas to both of you and everyone else.:lol: (y)

[thehillbillycat]

Memphis 74,
What Christian wants is just a small proof that it exists. 5 to 10 sends worth isn't to bad. As much stuff he has put up on his site that is rare. I think you can do the same since he provides on 5 to 10 seconds worth for free all the time.

[mubarak]

10 seconds thats all he is asking memphis (y)

[memphis 77]

well 33, as i stated publicly on here last week, since you call me a liar, i will be more than happy to come to your city/town and show the film of memphis 76, in its entirety, i will also pay for another member of this forum, of your choosing to verify this film exists, it's all paid by me, so let us know when . AS to reply to christian, again i will not put any of my film online, i'm willing to prove 33 wrong in person and i will pay for you as well if you would like to come to his town and i shall show the both of you, i'm familiar that you have a dvd of the month club, all of your footage is from others like larry patrick, john gadore, etc... if you have original unreleased footage than let me know and list it, so it's all up to 33 now let me know when we can do this , i'm dying to proove you wrong, in person, remember those that don't have can not be choosers.

[Larry Dickman]

Can I come too?
:lol:

[mubarak]

i will gladly verify this film:lol:

[Unchained Melody]

The fact that you will not show not even 5 seconds of this footage you claim you have makes one doubt even more that you even have it !

[memphis 77]

yeah i don't have it . i'm on here willing to give the opurtunity for 33 and someonelse of his choosing to preview the film , and it's all on me, i 'm quite sure that would make your day me posting the film on the net for thousands to download , even 5 minutes, if you had spent the mopney i have over the years to aquire this you would be in the same position, see if tunzi, sheriff, larry yates would show the film that they have , especially for all to see, i still ask that 33 take me up on my offer,,, seems he's lost for words, as for all you doubters i really don't give a s..t. oh by the way chief say hi to all the family at the trailer park, being a newbie to the elvis world i understand your doubts.

[Jouni]

No offensive, but you're getting pretty ridiculous, memphis 77. No one has asked you to post "even 5 minutes" worth of the footage... just 5-10 SECONDS, or even less... just screen captures. Do you really think anyone would believe you have that kind of footage if you're not even willing to post screen captures of it?? Why do you have to show it to someone in person... and "it's all on you"... If you really have spent much money for getting it, why spend even more just to show it to one or two persons... just post some screen captures or 5-10 second clip of it, and this conversation would be over.

[CHRISTIAN M]

THAT S MY PERSONAL OPINION
Memphis 77 HAS NOTHING concerning the Memphis 1975 pro footage etc..
i have send him P.M asking to give me is email
proposing to give my personal adress for send me clip or capture
but it s impossible to have your private mail
the reply is a request to know what i have for trade
are you just curious ?
Do you think if one private collector has this ultra rare fotage
if he has spent a lot of monnaie to obtain,do you think this collector post on message board for sell or trade ?
If you clame have rare footage on public board
why you return back and don t post only five seconds or capture shoot , you don t post because you try to rip some confiant fans
MY PERSONAL OPINION AND MY WORDS ARE
I think you are
D.Aguiar from Canada who rip me fews month ago and use many user names
http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20816
See on FECC M.B TRADE center section Previous page 10 message dated feb 3 2006

Christian Mussio from France

[thehillbillycat]

I personally don't think he has it. Unless he is willing to come to my house and let me see it for myself and record 5 seconds worth and then let me post it for all the members here to see it. But other than that I am not listening to anything else he has to say. I would even trade him the footage that I will be getting for that so call footage.

[diamond]

Gosh this thread is getting a bit out of hand isn't it :supriced:

I have a solution to this......why dont we all forget about what's been wrote on this thread and start from scratch.

If people say they have footage and they dont well....I find that very sad.

If you say you have footage and you genuinely do have........why not send a clip to one of the moderators on here, they can tell us, then destroy it or return it to the owner.

And from now on I am taking no notice of this person or my friend has this so on and so on until I see proof.

Let's not fall out over something that after all may not be worth falling out over.

Memphis 77.......if you are a serious collector and have paid good money for your footage then more power to you but please stop teasing the fans when you know fine well they would give an arm and a leg just for a glimpse of it.

[diamond]

I personally don't think he has it. Unless he is willing to come to my house and let me see it for myself and record 5 seconds worth and then let me post it for all the members here to see it. But other than that I am not listening to anything else he has to say. I would even trade him the footage that I will be getting for that so call footage.


Elvislennon

Might I add here that you are as bad as him actually because you are saying basically the same thing as he is.

Why dont you do as I suggested above and give a moderator some of your footage too.

[thehillbillycat]

But you need to remember what I have said before you say things like that. I said that I was going to give the whole footage to the people for free. All my friends who has the footages ask is that only me or him to copy them so that it wouldn't loses the quality. So I am nothing like him what so ever. I have told Christian as soon as I get the footage that he will get a copy. Read before you post that BS that you said about me. Here is my direct quote from this thread:

"Now, I might be giving copies of that to some of the people who went to that show and also Christian M will be getting that as well as soon as I can get it."


Look, On page 5 to see for yourself. Then if you want more proof ask Christian himself. He will tell you that I will be giving him a copy of the footage.
But I don't have the footage right now. I will be getting these from two different people. I have got them stuff to trade for it. So as soon as I get it, I will be making some copies of them.

[diamond]

(n)

And that's exactly what I meant when I wrote this thread was getting out of hand.

You have been telling Elvis fans on different messageboards for a long time now about your friend's footage, what you are going to trade and then pass on.

For all we know Memphis 77 may have a valuable piece of footage on his hands and is protecting it like your friends are theirs, that is exactly what I meant by you are as bad as him!


I dont have to ask anyone anything for proof of this and that...........I shall now sit back and watch and wait for the comments about this footage when it materialises.

[thehillbillycat]

(n)

And that's exactly what I meant when I wrote this thread was getting out of hand.

You have been telling Elvis fans on different messageboards for a long time now about your friend's footage, what you are going to trade and then pass on.

For all we know Memphis 77 may have a valuable piece of footage on his hands and is protecting it like your friends are theirs, that is exactly what I meant by you are as bad as him!


I dont have to ask anyone anything for proof of this and that...........I shall now sit back and watch and wait for the comments about this footage when it materialises.


But as I have said, I will be GIVEN copies away. NO TRADES, NOT FOR SALE but given away BIG DIFFERENCE. Memphis 77 wants to trade unrelease footage for his video. All I said is to let me or my two friends to copy these for people so that it won't lose quality. That is not hard to do and that is all I have ask. So as I have said before, READ MY PREVIOUS POSTS BEFORE YOU SAY THINGS LIKE THAT.

[mubarak]

i think memphis 77 should be given the benefit of the doubt.after all if you had
valuable unrelesed footage would you not be carefull with it. then again for
various reasons he through a third party could anominously post about 10 seconds or more for fans on this mb.this way there would be no legal comebacks on memphis by epe (remember enter the dragon dvd documetary
staring elvis where epe threatened legal action and all footage of elvis was removed).i think memphis 77 while his intentions are good is beining cautious
for very good reasons.:hmm: (y)

[mubarak]

has memphis 77 left the building ?:cursing:

[memphis 77]

no i have not left the building, i appoligise for getting p.o.'d, but when someone like 33 has the odasity to print what he said i was more than willing to cut him down to size, and the offer still stands, that i will pay for the room and another person of his choice to come and verify that this exists, and what i am carrying is the original vtr tape, with stamp , again i know that it is difficult for people to believe, and those that want it for their personal use start to bash me, as for you CHRISTIAN , you were given the opourtunity to come up with something original /unreleased that is yours , again you have failed, for all you have is other peoples films that have bin circulated and downgraded over the years , and you sell this as a dvd of the month club, the offer still stands that when you can come up with something original unreleased in your possession than i shall make available what i have, and remember back to the trade last year that i stated 1 st gen copy and the complete outakes which you re negged on the deal, i have traded with people who have their own films like jean blankenship, john gadore , larry yates, jim curtin, mario, i sure wouldn't [post a minute of any of my films , again because of the reason others than take the credit, sale, and downgrade them this is easy for joe public to do because he has not paid the prices at auction that i and many have paid] , enough said on my part i will exit and let this rest the offers still stand.ok lennon i will do just that, i will come to your town and i will bring the footage, i will invite you to come to a nearby hotel , please let me know which one , and if you will also bring your rare footage, that you said you have, please let me know by thursday of this week so i can meet up with you this weekend., no b.s. let's do this.

[0349054]

If you for one minute think I will go and meet some quack off a message board you are sorely mistaken!

[srj1967]

Before this develops into an all-out brawl, can someone on here (who supposedly has this various footage) please give a definition of what they believe the word PROFESSIONAL to mean?

For my mind, the word "professional" would refer to the MGM stuff from TTWII and On Tour, or the CBS stuff from In Concert.

We've seen some amazing footage over the years, mostly 8mm stuff, but it seems hard to believe that, for over 30 years, there has been "professional" footage of Elvis that we've never seen.

Is this referring to, for example, TV station footage of Elvis actually on stage? I mean on stage, and not arriving/departing hotels, airports etc.

I read many years ago that the Colonel never permitted any TV cameras to film Elvis on stage, and I can't see him doing that without trying to make a buck. And in all the concert reviews I have, none of them mentions TV cameras.

So, please ... can someone clear up for me exactly what is meant here by "professional" footage? Thanks. (y)

[thehillbillycat]

Colonel did allow TV cameras to film Elvis at certain times through his concert years. Example, I have one in my collection of December 15, 1975 Closing Show. The info I got from the person I got it from was that this footage was filmed by the camera that was located in the showroom. There were at least four cameras that was hooked into Elvis' dressing room. A person that I know who used to worked there during the 70s can tell you that there was cameras in the showroom. As for other footage, Professional footage is a higher quality than 8mm. When you see some professional footage and compare it to the 8mm footage you will know the difference. The professional footage that is available for the NYE 76 show is better than the 8mm footage from what I have heard. But as I have said that only about 20 minutes worth was filmed.

[bogarcon]

What a very interesting story we have here. For my personal view, I know that some pro-film are on tape (I saw CBS in 1973 in Uniondale..when I saw my first show and some local tv reproters in Augusta in 1977..but the problem is that when it's Elvis everybody think that it worth a lot of $. This is not always the case..Ik know for sure because my name is in the insert of the 1988 ``alternate aloha`` cd and LP (I had the original multi-track tape in my hand) and I gave it back ti Joan Deary here in Montreal in 1987 when she came to our convention). There was no way to get money for it.
Have a nice day, Bogarcon

[thehillbillycat]

Professional film is also on tape too. NBC, CBS and ABC are the only ones who recorded the shows by tapes. But there is other professional film footage too like 16mm that was recorded by some local TV stations.

[mubarak]

elvis lennon are you goining to take up memphis 77 offer to meet up in hotel ?(y)

[thehillbillycat]

Yes, I would but as I have said I don't have the Macon or the Atlanta footages in my collection yet. I will be getting them from another friend. So as soon as I get them which my two friends wifes said it will be within three months do that they have family problems. One been very bad off because of a heart attack and one who has marriage problems. But the one who marriage problems told me that they will remain friends and that I will recieve the footage but I have to give them time. Then I will upload them to the internet to let people see the footage. Plus, I will be having a party for my birthday this weekend (Saturday) so I might be in the mood to do anything.

[srj1967]

To those who say they have some of this footage, any chance of putting up some still-picture screen grabs, rather than moving footage?

[rick]

let's share as Elvis fans and let us see this stuff.
If not, track down on uoutube the May 2 1977 footage of elvis at Chicago doing PSA and Hurt, including a great roll on the reprise

[Sammy4Elvis]

WOW, if these are real then i want copies!!! How amazing!!

[thehillbillycat]

The footage that is on Youtube is very common. I have seen that before. People used parts of that footage to make The Last Concert that is available.

[memphis 77]

i give up , i sure tried, but as i stated i will not post this , and the reason being after thousands will down load it and it will cease to be rare, just look at the cbs tapes, and some may use it to sell or further their collections. T o answer the question, this is broadcast footage[vtr tape] from tv station. THE colonel did alow local press tv print media to film some of the performances especially if it was at the begining of a tour, and really west coasy yours were the promoters , and TOM HULLET had the final say. There is quite a bit of this around, in varying degrees, i know that sean shaver has 5 of them, 2 from 70, that are on 16 mm. I will continue to give my opinons on this subject as long as the moderators see fit, i will not damage this thread, if you w3ish for me to let it alone just let me know.

[mubarak]

mephis 77 do you know what other footage is around i.e. shaun you say has 5
2 of which are 70 what are the other 3 dates.as much info as pssible thanks.

[srj1967]

Sean Shaver is dead (someone confirmed this regarding my previous post about him), so I don't think this footage that he had will become available any time soon. Don't know if he had any family or whatever who'd even know what stuff it was ...

[monco]

yes,man footage of MSG exist,I see a trailer with professional shot , the trailer is (2002)is 3 minutes.without sound and professional shot.
regards from chile

[jak]

Sean Shaver is dead (someone confirmed this regarding my previous post about him), so I don't think this footage that he had will become available any time soon. Don't know if he had any family or whatever who'd even know what stuff it was ...

I have tried to confirm this but Ive been unable.Is his death for certain?
Jak

[thehillbillycat]

i give up , i sure tried, but as i stated i will not post this , and the reason being after thousands will down load it and it will cease to be rare, just look at the cbs tapes, and some may use it to sell or further their collections. T o answer the question, this is broadcast footage[vtr tape] from tv station. THE colonel did alow local press tv print media to film some of the performances especially if it was at the begining of a tour, and really west coasy yours were the promoters , and TOM HULLET had the final say. There is quite a bit of this around, in varying degrees, i know that sean shaver has 5 of them, 2 from 70, that are on 16 mm. I will continue to give my opinons on this subject as long as the moderators see fit, i will not damage this thread, if you w3ish for me to let it alone just let me know.


Sean Shaver has been dead for a little while, so how does he have them?

[jak]

Im not convinced he has passed.Take a grain of salt with anything you read on the internet or any message boards.You can access any obituary online and I have not been able to find his.His death could just be a rumour unless someone has the definitive answer.
Jak

[thehillbillycat]

I have found it on several sites that he had passed away and also I can introduce to a person who knows him. He went to the memorial for Sean. So you can't get no more proof than that. Plus, Sean has an official and it clearly says it on there too. How much proof do you want?

I guess Elvis isn't dead because of the facts that is clear:

1. Facts points out that he is alive
2. Facts points out to be dead.


I don't think any member of this forum went to the funeral so we didn't see the body. That is like me, each and every day I think my older brother is alive but then it pops in my brain that he is dead. Why do I think this? I saw no body. My older brother was creamated. So I am left with a open mind each and every day that my brother is alive.

[jak]

I have found it on several sites that he had passed away and also I can introduce to a person who knows him. He went to the memorial for Sean. So you can't get no more proof than that. Plus, Sean has an official and it clearly says it on there too. How much proof do you want?

I guess Elvis isn't dead because of the facts that is clear:

1. Facts points out that he is alive
2. Facts points out to be dead.


I don't think any member of this forum went to the funeral so we didn't see the body. That is like me, each and every day I think my older brother is alive but then it pops in my brain that he is dead. Why do I think this? I saw no body. My older brother was creamated. So I am left with a open mind each and every day that my brother is alive.

I think you need to stop taking posts on a messageboard quite so seriously and just relax.All I wanted was something more than I heard he was dead.I read lots of wrong info on the internet.What state did he die in?In the future please keep your feeble attempts at sarcasm to yourself in regards to my posts.Your cooperation is appreciated.
Jak

[thehillbillycat]

I think you need to stop taking posts on a messageboard quite so seriously and just relax.All I wanted was something more than I heard he was dead.I read lots of wrong info on the internet.What state did he die in?In the future please keep your feeble attempts at sarcasm to yourself in regards to my posts.Your cooperation is appreciated.
Jak

Actually I don't know. I know that he passed away. I will find more from my friend.

[jak]

This question is on the collector's board also.Nobody has confirmed his death on that board.Many of the posters there do know their stuff and are extremely well informed.If he has died it is certainly not well known and that would be somewhat of a surprise to me.News of that nature usually travels through the Elvis circles.
Jak

[memphis 77]

i can assure that sean is alive, but not well, he has had a cancerous tumour removed some 3 years ago, lennon who is this friend that is telling you this, i have his e mail adress along with his phone number, i spoke to him back in august of last year, and he told me he is working on a little project[it's bin over 5 years , that he has bin dealing with this ] i also e mailed him and told him this *****ic story, knowing sean he is enjoying his anenimity, and is getting a kick out of it, in his usual fashion he will take his time to respond. By the way lennon when are you going to get the film? from your friend.

[thehillbillycat]

i can assure that sean is alive, but not well, he has had a cancerous tumour removed some 3 years ago, lennon who is this friend that is telling you this, i have his e mail adress along with his phone number, i spoke to him back in august of last year, and he told me he is working on a little project[it's bin over 5 years , that he has bin dealing with this ] i also e mailed him and told him this *****ic story, knowing sean he is enjoying his anenimity, and is getting a kick out of it, in his usual fashion he will take his time to respond. By the way lennon when are you going to get the film? from your friend.


Well, he knows Sean and told me that he passed away. That is all that I know. There could be two Sean Shaver who is a Elvis fan. I should know that there is another person with my name who is a Elvis fan. My other person who has my name isn't doing to well either. I think he has cancer in the final stage so sometime this year he might passed away. Then this will start all over again about someone who is dead which they are alive. As for the footage, I don't know when I will get it but as soon as I do I will let you all know.

[jak]

i can assure that sean is alive, but not well, he has had a cancerous tumour removed some 3 years ago, lennon who is this friend that is telling you this, i have his e mail adress along with his phone number, i spoke to him back in august of last year, and he told me he is working on a little project[it's bin over 5 years , that he has bin dealing with this ] i also e mailed him and told him this *****ic story, knowing sean he is enjoying his anenimity, and is getting a kick out of it, in his usual fashion he will take his time to respond. By the way lennon when are you going to get the film? from your friend.

This is what Im talking about.I was under the impression he was still alive and in New Mexico or in the southwest somewhere..I dont think we are talking about a different Sean Shaver.This is another example of how you have to be carefull with the info you hear before accepting it as fact.That's why I asked for proof.
Jak

[srj1967]

Memphis 77,

Perhaps you could call or email Sean and ask him to write a few words to let us know if indeed he is alive, and that he is the same Sean Shaver who did those wonderful photo books.
And ask him if THE ELVIS BOOK VOLUME 1 will ever come out? I was in contact with him many years ago, but lost touch.

The website www.seanshaver.com talks about his memory, but makes no specific reference to his passing.

Very perplexing ... :'(

[thehillbillycat]

Yea, That is what I am talking about why would several sites says that he has passed away including the one that you jsut posted.

[jak]

The site mentioned does not state he has died.It says in memory of.This could be in relation to his retirement from the Elvis scene.I honestly dont know.Hence my previous request for proof.
Elvislennon2004,
If a friend of yours went to the memorial for Shaver I would guess he lived in the same state unless he traveled.Every death notice is public record.What state does your friend live in?
Jak

[thehillbillycat]

He lives here in Georgia and has met more big fans of Elvis than any other person I would say. He has the several pictures to prove that.

[jak]

He lives here in Georgia and has met more big fans of Elvis than any other person I would say. He has the several pictures to prove that.

Be carefull what you boast.I too know many heavy hitters in the Elvis world and Im sure many others here do also.There are many people out there that would leave your friend and me in their dust when it came to Elvis connections.Im not trying to pick on you but if youre friend said he went to Shaver's memorial service I would have serious doubts about that claim.if your friend was a great fan he would know who Shaver is and would not mistake him for somebody else with the same name.Any hardcore fan knows Shaver.I dont even have to check to know he didnt die in Ga.If somebody who was well connected in the Elvis world went to his memorial service I would know about it.There is no way that info would not have gotten around.I've been involved with Elvis fans since I myself was a young fan back in 72.I learned early on that people go out of their way to missrepresent their association with Elvis.They would have you believe they were his good friend or knew everybody in the inner circle.The lesson is to be carefull when getting info and just dont assume something is true because someone who knew somebody said it.If Shaver is alive it shows you how easily it is to be mislead.
Jak

[thehillbillycat]

Be carefull what you boast.I too know many heavy hitters in the Elvis world and Im sure many others here do also.There are many people out there that would leave your friend and me in their dust when it came to Elvis connections.Im not trying to pick on you but if youre friend said he went to Shaver's memorial service I would have serious doubts about that claim.if your friend was a great fan he would know who Shaver is and would not mistake him for somebody else with the same name.Any hardcore fan knows Shaver.I dont even have to check to know he didnt die in Ga.If somebody who was well connected in the Elvis world went to his memorial service I would know about it.There is no way that info would not have gotten around.I've been involved with Elvis fans since I myself was a young fan back in 72.I learned early on that people go out of their way to missrepresent their association with Elvis.They would have you believe they were his good friend or knew everybody in the inner circle.The lesson is to be carefull when getting info and just dont assume something is true because someone who knew somebody said it.If Shaver is alive it shows you how easily it is to be mislead.
Jak

No, he travel to see his memorial. He didn't die in GA, I didn't say Shaver die in GA. I said that my friend lives in GA. All he told me that he went to Sean Shaver's memorial. He said that he was a Elvis fan that he was buried with several items of Elvis. One of the items the man got from Elvis. It was a ring. Along in the coffin was several pictures, CDs and so forth. One of the picture has him with Elvis and the picture was taken around 1975 or 76. The man is wearing the ring that Elvis gave him. My friend took pictures of the memorial service. Even on the coffin it says this "SSAEPTCB". Which my friend told me that it mean Sean Shaver and Elvis Presley Taking Care of Business. I saw that in the picture and that is what my friend told me what someone told him.

[mubarak]

okay folks lets get back on track (respect to shaver alive or dead).
lennon will you take up memphis offer to meet him in hotel ?
also does anybody have info on any other pro-shot concert film 69-77. i am
talking about the rare stuff (unreleased) in fans/collectors hands(16mm or vtr
film recorded by news crew etc. :hmm: :!:

[thehillbillycat]

Why don't he come by my house. I only live about 2 miles from the interstate. But as I have said I won't be able to show him mine because I don't have it yet. I will be getting it.

[mubarak]

well how about it memphis77 ? why not meet elvis lennon over his house and show him the footage you have of vegas dec. 75.then he can confirm to us that this really exists (y)

[CHRISTIAN M]

Yea Christian I will try my best get picture with my webcam torromow. I believe its Baton Rouge because it was the Embordered Eagle and I believe he only wore it once and that was in Baton Rouge right?

Its in opening credits of this DVD I got from a friend. Its awesome DVD!

Love to all,
Tim Dudley "A Tribute To Elvis Show"
http://www.geocities.com/dudcowboy_1/

HI
Just to inform you
Tim has send me clip of the footage he think be a pro footage from Baton rouge,alas it s clip from COLUMBUS 25 JUNE 74 filmed by photographer Bob Heis withe super 8 camera
again thanks to Tim Dudley who is the only one for now ,who has try to proove he has something and send (y)

Christian M

[mubarak]

thanks for update on that footage christian,even though it is disapointing news.the search continues for more unreleased pro-shot footage. :lmfao:

[jak]

HI
Just to inform you
Tim has send me clip of the footage he think be a pro footage from Baton rouge,alas it s clip from COLUMBUS 25 JUNE 74 filmed by photographer Bob Heis withe super 8 camera
again thanks to Tim Dudley who is the only one for now ,who has try to proove he has something and send (y)

Christian M

I personally believe that most claims of pro shot footage are just super 8.Most only see degraded copies of this film so the quality is subpar.When someone see's quality super 8 footage they tend to believe it's pro shot.
Jak

[srj1967]

I personally believe that most claims of pro shot footage are just super 8.Most only see degraded copies of this film so the quality is subpar.When someone see's quality super 8 footage they tend to believe it's pro shot.
Jak

I agree with Jak here. No one has given a clear definition of exactly what "professional" footage is, despite the replies here to my previous request for one. Super 8 seems to be the best quality footage out there. It still seems amazing to me that footage from the TV channels and supposedly from the Hilton showroom (??? - I don't think so) still remains unseen.

This ongoing debate about who has what footage, will someone meet someone at a hotel to verify etc is becoming VERY boring indeed. (n)

As far as I'm concerned, I won't believe the existence of any such footage until I see at least 30 seconds on this forum or elsewhere.

To those that say they have professional footage: end the debate now. Stop sniping and *****ing at each other, and ditch the egos. Either put up or shut up ...

[CHRISTIAN M]

I agree with Jak here. No one has given a clear definition of exactly what "professional" footage is, despite the replies here to my previous request for one. Super 8 seems to be the best quality footage out there. It still seems amazing to me that footage from the TV channels and supposedly from the Hilton showroom (??? - I don't think so) still remains unseen.

This ongoing debate about who has what footage, will someone meet someone at a hotel to verify etc is becoming VERY boring indeed. (n)

As far as I'm concerned, I won't believe the existence of any such footage until I see at least 30 seconds on this forum or elsewhere.

To those that say they have professional footage: end the debate now. Stop sniping and *****ing at each other, and ditch the egos. Either put up or shut up ...

HI
The definition of pro footage is clear
pro footage is footage filmed in 16 mm 35 mm 70 mm or video camera
shoot by professionals from Movie team ,Studio tv team ,Tv crew
I TAKE EXEMPLE FOOTAGE KNOW BY ALL

Movie team ( all the shoot during Elvis movies film and outtakes )

Studio TV (all the tv shows Sullivan,Dorsey,tv show 68,73,77 etc..)

TV Crew ( Louisville 56 Tupelo 56,57,etc..Army footage,Elvis mariage,international hotel contract signature 69 ,Houston press conference 70 ,Honolulu 72 songs filmed by Japan tv,Indianapolis airport 77) for news reel ,tv news etc..

We can include on this list footage in the 50s filmed by police

super 8 filmed by Elvis friends ,close peoples ( Esposito Priscilla etc..)
filmed by photographers (B.Heis,S.Shaver,K.Alverson L.Leech etc..)
or fans are not concidered pro footage !

Hope this help you
Christian M

[srj1967]

Super 8 filmed by Elvis friends ,close peoples ( Esposito Priscilla etc..)
filmed by photographers (B.Heis,S.Shaver,K.Alverson L.Leech etc..)
or fans are not considered pro footage !



I agree with you, Christian. The Super 8 stuff that people seem to talk about here is not pro footage. (y)

And I still do not believe any stories about Elvis' Vegas shows being filmed "professionally". Cameras in the Hilton? Since when?

Rather than give stories about knowing someone who used to work at the Hilton etc, we need to find someone who can actually show us something.

Enough of the rhetoric ...

[mubarak]

a little less conversation and alot more action, time to show us a clip of the action ! :doh:

[CHRISTIAN M]

HI srj1967
I can confirm some Vegas shows are filmed withe pro camera
not from start to end ( for what i know ) but some clips
exemple easy avaible for you september 3 1972 midnight show clips filmed by knbc tv

christian M

[mubarak]

will you be doining an update on your list of rare unreleased pro-shot footage 69-77 christian. to bring us uptodate info as jan 07 what is now known :notworthy

[CHRISTIAN M]

will you be doining an update on your list of rare unreleased pro-shot footage 69-77 christian. to bring us uptodate info as jan 07 what is now known :notworthy

I Can t update for now nothing new :!:
in this topic Elvislennon2004 give some infos,but i have seen nothing for now,who can permit and proove it s pro footage
when i see the Vegas dec 75 ,Pontiac 75, Atlanta 76 ,Pitsburgh 76 ,Macon 77 footage etc ...I Promise i update and inform you if Elvislennon2004 is ok


christian M

[mubarak]

lets all hope new unreleased pro footage is found and released to us in 07 (y)

[CHRISTIAN M]

HI
One more confirm the feb 1970 footage
From the new import CD 'Let It Be Me' & in the liner notes by the person that recorded the show(Barb D. Is her name)

(Writen by Barb D.) One intresting note that has been of great speculation in the Elvis world the last 35 years is was any professional film shot of Elvis during this engagement? While i can't say for 100% certainty there were a few shows we ended up in the balcony looking at a huge camera in the centre of the balcony, sometimes manned, sometimes not - will we ever see any film one day from that season? Your geuss is as good as mine - but i do know for a fact that some film was shot.

Christian M

[thehillbillycat]

I told you that there was a camera in the showroom. It was hooked up into his dressing room. A person I know used to work at the International Hotel and he remembers the camera. But being a huge camera, I can't say. He never told me how big it was.

[srj1967]

Yes, I know about this. Artists still have cameras today for their dressing rooms so they can get a feel of the stage before they go out.

But there is no evidence to suggest that these were proper film cameras or that any footage of Elvis was taken. They were probably video link ups (or a 1970 version anyway).

I've worked in TV stations, and there are things like weather cameras mounted on the roof that beam footage to the studio without the images actually being recorded permanently.

And again, as for all this "pro" footage everyone is going on about ... I'll believe it only when I see it! After all, surely some of it would've surfaced by now ... ?

[memphis 77]

seems as though the reply i posted last friday was taken down, don't know why, but i will again answer questions, i will gladly cone to your town elvis lennon and rent a confrence room at my expense, i would also invite christain m to your town [paid by me] to also view the footage, and he can bring some of his original film, again i would pay for all expenses. I would also let you know that i e mailed sean shaver and told him about the rumours , i have yet to hear back from him, besides 16mm . 35 mm and 70mm film, there is 3/4 '" that was used by tv staions from 1975, this is the equivalent to betamax, and this is what i have of memphis 76, i'd like to ask memwithbrokenhearts if he remembers any camera crew at the show outside gathering fans comments. and in the back of the arens as this was a hand held ? again this is my last try at proving myself. the only other person who has a copy of this footage from me is paul mcleoud, i traded with him some 2 years ago as he was interviewed before the show, he runs a shrine called graceland too.

[diamond]

Just thought I would see if any footage had been added yet :'(

[mubarak]

i am looking at my blank screen :'(

[srj1967]

I'd stil be happy with just a screen grab of a SINGLE FRAME at this stage!!

[mubarak]

getting a bit desparate aint you ! :blink:

[memphis 77]

i would like to add that the benefit show in missippi 75, backstge footage was film4ed[16mm] by wmjan tv , 4 songs from the program were recorded, i am sure that tunzi has seen this , but edid not get the rights to put it on an upcomming dvd release, also footage of anaheim ca, 73 was recorded by wabc tv in anaheimn[this is a spectacular performance and film].This comming spring there will be an unnofficial release of ON TOUR, its by the same guy who was behind [BAXTER LABEL], it will contain 2 dvd's the second with 4 hiours of unseen footage.The quality will be very good, not excellent.

[mubarak]

memphis 77 can you give us more details on the anaheim ca. 73 footage thanks

[mubarak]

any further info anyone ?

[memphis 77]

i attended this show and let me tell you that this was the best tour show AE.P. did in all 36 performances that i attended, it was what you call a tight show, no banter/foolin around , just cranking out one songafter the other , durring steamroller, he finally opened up his eyes i remember ronnie getting a look from ELVIS that would kill, also a new bass player was added, the footage is 12 minutes long and it was shot in 16mm right angle at least in frst row, steamroller was filmed by tv station wabc. THIS is owned by super fan jim curtin[and still in his possession] he is holding out for major money.JIMMY velvet also has some pro film from 56, and all three shows from honalulu 72[not 8 mm , but 16mm ] .To bad the guys mentioned don't want to take me up on my offer looks as though they are full of b.s. you know i am tempted to post some footage on here just to embaess them.

[mubarak]

feel free to post sample footage on here memphis 77 :notworthy (y)

[srj1967]

Oh for God's sake, just post ten bloody seconds of the footage, and stop all this back'n'forth. :angry:

[susan]

http://www.graceland-too.com/graceland_reviews.html

[mubarak]

susan whats this link you put up to do with rare pro-shot footage? (n)

[memphis 77]

the only footage that is pro susan is the adonis suit footage fron knbc, this 3will be added in the new tunzi dvd, in much better quality. i 'll re neg on the posting since that bloody comment.

[mubarak]

memphis 77 how long is this footage of msg on this new tunzi dvd.
also any chance of a small clip of your footage on here thanks (y)

[memphis 77]

i believe that the footage on tunzis dvd will be about 10 minutes, but it's real nice all will enjoy, i'm sure , some of the other material will be a bit rough, mubarak i admit you have bin a patient soul, i will send you some footage from rochester 77 that will be pleasing, pm me with your p.o. box or adress.

[mubarak]

memphis 77 thanks for your kind offer i have pm you with my details :clap:

[susan]

susan whats this link you put up to do with rare pro-shot footage? (n)


didn`t you read theard ?!

One of you guys were talking about trading with the owner of graceland too.
I just wanted to show all folks here who this owner is.

This has nothing to do with pro footage of msg?!?!

[memphis 77]

yes susan , that was me who traded with PAUL MCLEOD , of GRACELAND TOO, many years ago, as he attended the show and was interviewed outside by tv station[memphis 76], hes a great guy, a genuine person, he also has alot of his own super 8mm film.

[mubarak]

susan any new pro-shot footage found for msg72 (any rumours of anything):hmm:

[susan]

nothing yet the "only" interessing thing could be Tunzi`s dvd

[memphis 77]

nothing yet the "only" interessing thing could be Tunzi`s dvd

the footage that will be contained from msg concert is in 3 rd gen , and it's not excellent, lets not foget the vegas press concert[concerning aloha] and the below par quality it was[ even i have bettr source than that] i sure felt cheated on the first DVD of this series, sure hope he does much better job on this follow up.

[bogarcon]

speaking about unreleased footage..any one has any details about the short footage (maybe 1 or 2 minutes) backstage at MSG when Elvis is receiving many palque and gold records from different fan club? I know there has been pictures but I didn't the footage before I receive a vcd called INIMITABLE ELVIS PRESLEY. Also there is a great quality footage of Elvis (??date??) wearing the BLVD LP jumpsuit any one knows where it is??
have a nice day,Bogarcon

[KPM]

I have always been very very skeptical of all claims of "whole concerts" having been filmed professionally and that somehow they have been hid under raps for 30 years. I have 8mm of Atlanta 76 it does have different angles but it is 8mm-there is no confusing 8mm with pro-footage. The only pro footage, other than TTWII or EOT outtakes, I have heard of is some form 1972 in Hawaii that a Japanese crew shot, and some that an ABC crew shot at MSG. Col. Parker (who was a blood hound) would have never let a news crew film more than a short news leadin,never a whole concert without big bucks. I wish it were true, but am 99% sure it is not.

[memphis 77]

I have always been very very skeptical of all claims of "whole concerts" having been filmed professionally and that somehow they have been hid under raps for 30 years. I have 8mm of Atlanta 76 it does have different angles but it is 8mm-there is no confusing 8mm with pro-footage. The only pro footage, other than TTWII or EOT outtakes, I have heard of is some form 1972 in Hawaii that a Japanese crew shot, and some that an ABC crew shot at MSG. Col. Parker (who was a blood hound) would have never let a news crew film more than a short news leadin,never a whole concert without big bucks. I wish it were true, but am 99% sure it is not.
well hate to tell ya but the colonel really did need the local press, to hype up the event so taht concert tickets would sell, and the only way you could do this was with press and free press at that, TOM HULET had confirmed back in 87 that they was sure that there was alot of pro film by local media he even stated to tod slaughter that he made the demands that local tv media film from back of venue[out of E.P.'S way and the fans, and that they be hand held] the sequence that you see in ELVIS IN CONCERT of E,P, plane arrival is from local media and filmeds quite a bit a ways a way, this was filmed by afilliate cbn 18, don't be so naive as to say you havn't seen it so it doesn't exist, so if you never seen the 70 jaycee awards show acceptance speech, breakfast[it wouldn't exist either] also filmed by local tv staion, and how about the numerous vegas interviews [ the one from vegas 72 with rocko langenestra] and the HONALULU press confrence, and the houston confrence- gee hope i made the point. The colonel was no fool much of this footage was given to him and became his , to wjich LOU ANN sold to many a collector in late 90's., and again no one is claiming that they were recorded in full, think before ya post my man.

[jak]

well hate to tell ya but the colonel really did need the local press, to hype up the event so taht concert tickets would sell, and the only way you could do this was with press and free press at that, TOM HULET had confirmed back in 87 that they was sure that there was alot of pro film by local media he even stated to tod slaughter that he made the demands that local tv media film from back of venue[out of E.P.'S way and the fans, and that they be hand held] the sequence that you see in ELVIS IN CONCERT of E,P, plane arrival is from local media and filmeds quite a bit a ways a way, this was filmed by afilliate cbn 18, don't be so naive as to say you havn't seen it so it doesn't exist, so if you never seen the 70 jaycee awards show acceptance speech, breakfast[it wouldn't exist either] also filmed by local tv staion, and how about the numerous vegas interviews [ the one from vegas 72 with rocko langenestra] and the HONALULU press confrence, and the houston confrence- gee hope i made the point. The colonel was no fool much of this footage was given to him and became his , to wjich LOU ANN sold to many a collector in late 90's., and again no one is claiming that they were recorded in full, think before ya post my man.

I hope some footage does turn up but the examples you give dont really apply in my opinion.Obviously the media will be present for a press confrence.As for the Jaycees,the Col wasnt in control of that.Elvis was a guest and he couldnt control that environment.Im sure filming that ceremony was a routine event.Im not so sure the Colonel relied on the press to help ticket sales.The three times Elvis palyed my city there was basically no press coverage but all three shows sold out quickly.I think there was just a small add in the paper.Film crews did film the fans camping outside the ticket office.My future wife was interviewed on camera in line.An Elvis concert was a major event for us fans but at the time it really was no big deal for the media.An Elvis concert back then didnt create a media circus.He played the same places over and over and they became almost routine.The last time he played my city in 76 he came and went without any notice.He sold out obviously but you didnt hear a thing about it.
Jak

[Snagglepuss]

Where is the best place to buy Elvis hard to get DVDs?http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p182/snagglepuss1/elvis_sig.jpg

[KPM]

well hate to tell ya but the colonel really did need the local press, to hype up the event so taht concert tickets would sell, and the only way you could do this was with press and free press at that, TOM HULET had confirmed back in 87 that they was sure that there was alot of pro film by local media he even stated to tod slaughter that he made the demands that local tv media film from back of venue[out of E.P.'S way and the fans, and that they be hand held] the sequence that you see in ELVIS IN CONCERT of E,P, plane arrival is from local media and filmeds quite a bit a ways a way, this was filmed by afilliate cbn 18, don't be so naive as to say you havn't seen it so it doesn't exist, so if you never seen the 70 jaycee awards show acceptance speech, breakfast[it wouldn't exist either] also filmed by local tv staion, and how about the numerous vegas interviews [ the one from vegas 72 with rocko langenestra] and the HONALULU press confrence, and the houston confrence- gee hope i made the point. The colonel was no fool much of this footage was given to him and became his , to wjich LOU ANN sold to many a collector in late 90's., and again no one is claiming that they were recorded in full, think before ya post my man.

I agree many things were taped for the news, I have many interviews, dashes on and off planes and heading into hotels and concerts, I read about the Jaycees event being filmed in 1970 after it happened from a fan club newsletter(even thou in my day there was no internet word of taped interviews were common knowledge in the fan clubs)my post was about whole concerts pro taped that have not heretofore been made known.
I just do not believe they exist(as much as I wish they did) Everything from Elviss TV antenna to plastic cups has shown up on E-Bay. Outtakes of EOT and TTWII also. If pro filmed concerts are out there after 30 years- someone is not realizing how much money they could make.
As far as helping ticket sales I tried to get tickets to 3 concerts in St. Louis 70-73-76 and in 70 and 73 they were sold out in one day . In 70 the ticket lady for Kiel Auditorium told me they could have sold 10 concerts out from the response they got. In 76 I finally got tickets but it sold out in a few days. I have heard the mystery pro-shot concert theory for 30 years, I hope I am wrong but after 30 years of the same rumor I am not holding my breath.
Lastly I feel I do think before I post.

[mubarak]

be prepared for some suprizes just because the pro shot footage has not surfaced does not mean it dont exist.remember a lot of superfans have this footage and they have something which nobody else has. ;)

[KPM]

be prepared for some suprizes just because the pro shot footage has not surfaced does not mean it dont exist.remember a lot of superfans have this footage and they have something which nobody else has. ;)

Joe Tunzi has been doing books and videos on Elvis for years, his research is extensive he is constantly looking for anything new. Here is the answer to a question about htis subject:
Question- I read on the web an old interview that you said there is a full concert that is filmed which is not ?That?s The Way It Is?, ?On Tour? or any of the 3 Honolulu shows (one filmed in 72 by Japanese television) or ?Elvis In Concert? from 1977. So can you please tell me more about this show and what year was it? (Question from Atle Larsen).

Joe: I can?t recall ever saying that there was another complete show professionally filmed other than what you?ve mentioned. However there is some footage from Madison Square Garden that was professionally shot that I?ve mentioned in a previous interview. This however is not a complete show. I will be using this footage on my upcoming DVD ?Hot Shots And Cool Clips Volume 2.?
If you know the superfans who have these concert footages tell them we are waiting to see it. After 30 years of hearing this many of us are not getting any younger and would like to see it (if it exists) before we actually can ask Elvis in person. HA HA

[CHRISTIAN M]

From Tunzi interview
http://www.elvisbrasil.com/epbrasil/jtinterview.htm

do you think that maybe some television stations have professional footage of some Elvis concerts from the seventies ?

Tunzi : most definitely ,we will use some on hot shoot clips vol 2

Christian M

[KPM]

I'm not disputing that there are numerous short clips of 5 to 10 minute lengths- but not whole concerts. If superfans really have them please get them out so all can all enjoy them. Every fan wants to see them, by saying I do not believe they exist does not mean I do not want them to be there. I just have doubts based on the last 30 years of hearing they exist somewhere but never getting out. I truely hope I am wrong.

[Menwithbrokenhearts]

seems as though the reply i posted last friday was taken down, don't know why, but i will again answer questions, i will gladly cone to your town elvis lennon and rent a confrence room at my expense, i would also invite christain m to your town [paid by me] to also view the footage, and he can bring some of his original film, again i would pay for all expenses. I would also let you know that i e mailed sean shaver and told him about the rumours , i have yet to hear back from him, besides 16mm . 35 mm and 70mm film, there is 3/4 '" that was used by tv staions from 1975, this is the equivalent to betamax, and this is what i have of memphis 76, i'd like to ask memwithbrokenhearts if he remembers any camera crew at the show outside gathering fans comments. and in the back of the arens as this was a hand held ? again this is my last try at proving myself. the only other person who has a copy of this footage from me is paul mcleoud, i traded with him some 2 years ago as he was interviewed before the show, he runs a shrine called graceland too.

Sorry it took so long to respond. But I was in the first set of risers on stage left and I did not see any professional looking cameras in the coliseum, but I was quite low and I was only looking at the stage. As for cameras outside, there were news crews with cameras interviewing fans. Hope this helps.
thanks

[memphis 77]

I hope some footage does turn up but the examples you give dont really apply in my opinion.Obviously the media will be present for a press confrence.As for the Jaycees,the Col wasnt in control of that.Elvis was a guest and he couldnt control that environment.Im sure filming that ceremony was a routine event.Im not so sure the Colonel relied on the press to help ticket sales.The three times Elvis palyed my city there was basically no press coverage but all three shows sold out quickly.I think there was just a small add in the paper.Film crews did film the fans camping outside the ticket office.My future wife was interviewed on camera in line.An Elvis concert was a major event for us fans but at the time it really was no big deal for the media.An Elvis concert back then didnt create a media circus.He played the same places over and over and they became almost routine.The last time he played my city in 76 he came and went without any notice.He sold out obviously but you didnt hear a thing about it.
Jak
durring ELVIS TOURS from 72-77, CONCERTS WEST had bought air time on radio stations, for almost every major city[something hullet confirmed in an interview he done with TREVOR CAJIO, fe also was asked about tv stations to which he replied tv stations were given press tickets as well, many of them were on contact with the colonels office, ELVIS PRESLEY , needed press to sell tickets, i wonder do you have this inyerview of the tv staion and your wife, if so can you give me the tv staions call letters. I can only tell all of you that many performances were recorded by local tv crews, hey BOSTON 71 KRQTV [and this was the complete show, on 16mm], also as stated RTHE MISSISSIPPI benefit show 75-20 minutes, vtr camera eo to beta. and others from vegas, in varrying quality, and the jewel of 76 MEMPHIS, a local cbs affiliate came down and filmed fans comments in indianapolis77[i would bet that they filmed a couple sequences in the auditorium, although i have picked just about everones brain about this. Old film warehouses usually have stock film that tv staions etc can no longer store, so they storage it and sell it first and foremost to these guys and from there if one of the employees knows a serious fan they will contact them, lets not forget the up comming TUNZI DVD , that most of the msg films are from local press tv staions, of course i don't believe that every show that was attended by tv crews was filmed entirely, but many shows were filmed, we know that the las vegas film burreau has quite a bit of clips dating back to E.P. s first appearance in 56[the disaster], they had many of their clips sent over to PARKERS office, the whole reason THE ESTATE [EPE] bought the colonels collection was because they were given an itemized list of all the contents[the COLONEL was a pack rat and his staff was meticulous in their notes and inventory] many films were /are in that collection , back in 98 i was told personally by TODD MORGAN, that he had watched a small clip frpm 69 in b/w and it was the closing of a show, believe me friends many people have these in their collections , with the advent of you tube and the like , no one wants to see these downloaded by all the world, and their stuff later sold by hucksters like LARRY PATRICK and others like him claiming its theirs, but yes its better to the average joe to just forget about seing most of these, the whole eason it becomes rare is because it has not bin viewed , copied, etc.. The latest is a guy in trenton, canada claiming he has E.P.'S bad moment weeping at the honalulu 72 press confrence[ can't wait to see this]. Again i appoligise to all for my very long explenations.

[memphis 77]

i just want to say that after a while of seeing all thes bad super 8mm or just reg old super 8 you just get tired of that[elvis looks like a tiny do far off at least 20 ft] well that may be the way most fans like it but not this cat, i also am still searching for 1st generation tape of CBS TV SPECIAL, i have at least 8 differn't versions, i just can't stand to see thae bad quality concerning this and other known filns, as for all you friends that are pm me, let me make it absolutly clear, if the film you have is not 1st generation[unreleased] and without stamp , please do not send nor e mail me anything thanks again. and i will update my site again on friday feb/8/ with the hayride new year footage] so please no posts till then thanks

[mubarak]

some interesting points there you made memphis as cold reality sets in :lmfao:

[jak]

The call letters of the tv station that interviewed my wife is WSJV in Elkhart Indiana.That was for his first show there back in 74 at Notre Dame.
Jak

[CHRISTIAN M]

http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/files/1/7/4/8/MSG1170350837.jpg

[Mr.Aron77]

durring ELVIS TOURS from 72-77, CONCERTS WEST had bought air time on radio stations, for almost every major city[something hullet confirmed in an interview he done with TREVOR CAJIO, fe also was asked about tv stations to which he replied tv stations were given press tickets as well, many of them were on contact with the colonels office, ELVIS PRESLEY , needed press to sell tickets, i wonder do you have this inyerview of the tv staion and your wife, if so can you give me the tv staions call letters. I can only tell all of you that many performances were recorded by local tv crews, hey BOSTON 71 KRQTV [and this was the complete show, on 16mm], also as stated RTHE MISSISSIPPI benefit show 75-20 minutes, vtr camera eo to beta. and others from vegas, in varrying quality, and the jewel of 76 MEMPHIS, a local cbs affiliate came down and filmed fans comments in indianapolis77[i would bet that they filmed a couple sequences in the auditorium, although i have picked just about everones brain about this. Old film warehouses usually have stock film that tv staions etc can no longer store, so they storage it and sell it first and foremost to these guys and from there if one of the employees knows a serious fan they will contact them, lets not forget the up comming TUNZI DVD , that most of the msg films are from local press tv staions, of course i don't believe that every show that was attended by tv crews was filmed entirely, but many shows were filmed, we know that the las vegas film burreau has quite a bit of clips dating back to E.P. s first appearance in 56[the disaster], they had many of their clips sent over to PARKERS office, the whole reason THE ESTATE [EPE] bought the colonels collection was because they were given an itemized list of all the contents[the COLONEL was a pack rat and his staff was meticulous in their notes and inventory] many films were /are in that collection , back in 98 i was told personally by TODD MORGAN, that he had watched a small clip frpm 69 in b/w and it was the closing of a show, believe me friends many people have these in their collections , with the advent of you tube and the like , no one wants to see these downloaded by all the world, and their stuff later sold by hucksters like LARRY PATRICK and others like him claiming its theirs, but yes its better to the average joe to just forget about seing most of these, the whole eason it becomes rare is because it has not bin viewed , copied, etc.. The latest is a guy in trenton, canada claiming he has E.P.'S bad moment weeping at the honalulu 72 press confrence[ can't wait to see this]. Again i appoligise to all for my very long explenations.



Where do you get this stuff from!

The Estate bought the Colonels stuff cos he planend to open up a rival museum to Graceland.

I don't buy any of what you typed and you can lambast me all you like, but your presuming people here are to have faith that these things exist?

Faith is for people who want to believe in religion, not for people who want to deal with facts.

I have spotted a number of errors in what you have described above, the Colonels collection being just one.

I guess if Todd Morgan denies he ever spoke to you or said those things; you will of course say he has to say this.

I'm only replying to inform people on the board that this is not reliable information and it is most probabaly inaccuarte.

[mubarak]

the truth is out there somewere in private collectors hands hidden in a dark vault.there is some truth might not be the whole truth in what memphis is saying. :hmm:

[KPM]

Larry Patrick claims 90% of private footage circulating is his? He is a pretty nice guy. Others claim they have the real deals? Its a funny thing so many claim the same things, with no way to no the truth.
I believe it when I see it. But it is not a driving question in my life. If its out there fine, I hope the guys who have the rare stuff (of whatever length)enjoy it if they do not want to share it somehow. But If the estate has a lot of these clips or a whole "mystery concert" why arent they using them for the current Elvis Concert world tours? They have been using the same sources from the TV specials, EOT, TTWII for the tours for years. It would certainly be a huge sales pitch to say "New Unseen Concert Footage"
We all know they don't miss a trick to make money- so if its there why aren't they using it? If the Col. owned it and they bought his collection they can do what they want with it. Even if they have only certain songs, CC Rider
whatever- wouldnt they incorporate them into the concert to add fresh footage? It seems logical. I now I would want it to be added as would millions of EP fans. oh well.

[memphis 77]

Larry Patrick claims 90% of private footage circulating is his? He is a pretty nice guy. Others claim they have the real deals? Its a funny thing so many claim the same things, with no way to no the truth.
I believe it when I see it. But it is not a driving question in my life. If its out there fine, I hope the guys who have the rare stuff (of whatever length)enjoy it if they do not want to share it somehow. But If the estate has a lot of these clips or a whole "mystery concert" why arent they using them for the current Elvis Concert world tours? They have been using the same sources from the TV specials, EOT, TTWII for the tours for years. It would certainly be a huge sales pitch to say "New Unseen Concert Footage"
We all know they don't miss a trick to make money- so if its there why aren't they using it? If the Col. owned it and they bought his collection they can do what they want with it. Even if they have only certain songs, CC Rider
whatever- wouldnt they incorporate them into the concert to add fresh footage? It seems logical. I now I would want it to be added as would millions of EP fans. oh well.
i alsp have and many have asked that question , if they have i and qwn it why not release it, well they did add some new stuff on THE ELVIS BY THE PRESLEYS DVDeg- karatee[even though its only 3 minutes- why not give us a dvd of all the footage ?, tHEN THEY RELEASED the honalulu interview on the revamped budget dvd[again not complete] and lets nit forget the JAPANEESE tv crews film of nov 17[ mind you only 12 minutes in length[ , but i'm certain they have this in their possession[culled from colobels collection]. thath's the golden question WHY?

[memphis 77]

Where do you get this stuff from!

The Estate bought the Colonels stuff cos he planend to open up a rival museum to Graceland.

I don't buy any of what you typed and you can lambast me all you like, but your presuming people here are to have faith that these things exist?

Faith is for people who want to believe in religion, not for people who want to deal with facts.

I have spotted a number of errors in what you have described above, the Colonels collection being just one.

I guess if Todd Morgan denies he ever spoke to you or said those things; you will of course say he has to say this.

I'm only replying to inform people on the board that this is not reliable information and it is most probabaly inaccuarte.

YEAH I DON'T REALLY GIVE A **************** WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, [parker was going to open a rival museum] where in the hell did you get this b,s. he sold to the estate because he neeeded money, and they aked for itemized list, just take a look at the MAGAZINE/BOOK that they published some ten years go[ELVIS AND THE COLONEL] it stated that they bought the collection knowing that there were gems in there , nowhere does it mention this story of him opening a museum of his own , especially when he had to give up those rights back in 82, I can honestly say that i had this convo with TOD MORGAN back in 98, another thing is those that don;t have these things tend to get hostile and stupidity takes over[as in your case], you havn't bin in touch with the lv film beureau , and went down to the film warehouses, i live and breath this , and have daelt with this for over twent one years. I'm sure you believe people like tunzi who say this just got discovered and i just foind this and that--- please , he has had the msg footage for many, many, years and has a;ot more but he will say he found this and that when his next dvd project comes up. and fyi- the colonel sold quite a bit of film 16mm and vtr 3/4 inch that was in his possession before his death, lou ann had the check/ payments made out to her in many cases these were CASH PAYMENTS. again you should get yiur s..t straight before posting!:clap: :clap: :clap:

[memphis 77]

Larry Patrick claims 90% of private footage circulating is his? He is a pretty nice guy. Others claim they have the real deals? Its a funny thing so many claim the same things, with no way to no the truth.
I believe it when I see it. But it is not a driving question in my life. If its out there fine, I hope the guys who have the rare stuff (of whatever length)enjoy it if they do not want to share it somehow. But If the estate has a lot of these clips or a whole "mystery concert" why arent they using them for the current Elvis Concert world tours? They have been using the same sources from the TV specials, EOT, TTWII for the tours for years. It would certainly be a huge sales pitch to say "New Unseen Concert Footage"
We all know they don't miss a trick to make money- so if its there why aren't they using it? If the Col. owned it and they bought his collection they can do what they want with it. Even if they have only certain songs, CC Rider
whatever- wouldnt they incorporate them into the concert to add fresh footage? It seems logical. I now I would want it to be added as would millions of EP fans. oh well.
i suppose the films/videod that he has from LEN LEECH, DEE BIGALOW, JEAN BLANKENSHIP, JOHN GADORE, LARRY YATES, SEAN SHAVER- are his also and he is a huckster selling others films for profit, i never sell E.P. and all my films will never end up in this guy s hands, he's a total crook, ask him to produce the transfer sheets and reels of all his so called films.

[memphis 77]

http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/files/1/7/4/8/MSG1170350837.jpg

heres a great example of the buffalo show being filmed, by unmanned camera, on tripod, i first thought maybe it's for cct, but for that they don't film on the stage, this is definetly a vtr camera the same as the late actor BOB CRANE had back in the late 60's , this is definetly a b/w model, colour models were much larger-wheres this film- no dought the whole performance was taped, whats the quality, it cant be that great since it is not manned, this photo and others were found in tunzis book of some years back, at the garde. thanx for postin christain.

[Mr.Aron77]

YEAH I DON'T REALLY GIVE A **************** WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, [parker was going to open a rival museum] where in the hell did you get this b,s. he sold to the estate because he neeeded money, and they aked for itemized list, just take a look at the MAGAZINE/BOOK that they published some ten years go[ELVIS AND THE COLONEL] it stated that they bought the collection knowing that there were gems in there , nowhere does it mention this story of him opening a museum of his own , especially when he had to give up those rights back in 82, I can honestly say that i had this convo with TOD MORGAN back in 98, another thing is those that don;t have these things tend to get hostile and stupidity takes over[as in your case], you havn't bin in touch with the lv film beureau , and went down to the film warehouses, i live and breath this , and have daelt with this for over twent one years. I'm sure you believe people like tunzi who say this just got discovered and i just foind this and that--- please , he has had the msg footage for many, many, years and has a;ot more but he will say he found this and that when his next dvd project comes up. and fyi- the colonel sold quite a bit of film 16mm and vtr 3/4 inch that was in his possession before his death, lou ann had the check/ payments made out to her in many cases these were CASH PAYMENTS. again you should get yiur s..t straight before posting!:clap: :clap: :clap:






A few things Memphis 77.

I find you quite abusive and hostile, which their is no need for. I made a few comments about not believeing your claims due to a substantial lack of evidence and you react aggresively. It would appear that aggression and hostility is your reaction to a lack of proof for what you preach to be true.

As for the Colonel, he tarmaced around his house to indicate he was setting up a car park for a new Elvis museum. That's what prompted EPE to pay more than what the collection was actually worth.

A bit of digging and you will find this to be true.

You may not know, but Parker never sold anything cheaply, for the correct price or if it was actually worth something - willingly.

I will report you if you resort to CAPS LOCKS AND ABUSIVE RESPONSES.

On a side note your poor grammar, punctuation and spelling is highly irritating.

In all fairness, your 'evidence' for anything other than what we know was recorded is so slim, it woulden't even make court.

I'm not in the business of believing charlatans - especially when I have alredy spotted how illinformed they appear.

[mubarak]

time for some fresh air boys and a cool drink.add a little time out :angry:

[memphis 77]

A few things Memphis 77.

I find you quite abusive and hostile, which their is no need for. I made a few comments about not believeing your claims due to a substantial lack of evidence and you react aggresively. It would appear that aggression and hostility is your reaction to a lack of proof for what you preach to be true.

As for the Colonel, he tarmaced around his house to indicate he was setting up a car park for a new Elvis museum. That's what prompted EPE to pay more than what the collection was actually worth.

A bit of digging and you will find this to be true.

You may not know, but Parker never sold anything cheaply, for the correct price or if it was actually worth something - willingly.

I will report you if you resort to CAPS LOCKS AND ABUSIVE RESPONSES.

On a side note your poor grammar, punctuation and spelling is highly irritating.

In all fairness, your 'evidence' for anything other than what we know was recorded is so slim, it woulden't even make court.

I'm not in the business of believing charlatans - especially when I have alredy spotted how illinformed they appear.
speaking of gramar 33 [yes i know its you again under a differn't name] did you check the way you spelled WOULDN'T, in your last post[hahahahahah], and go ahaed and report me, you are the one who responded, to this thread and have attacked me and my claims, your story of the car lot and museum[which one is it get your story straight before posting], i will no longer ruin this thread with a response, like why not present some factual proof for your musuem /car lot story, another thing the colonels collection contained many valuble artifacts. I appoligise to all of those who post here but people like this are only looking to cause trouble[especially when they have bin kicked off in the past and are now using a beard] coward.:clap: :clap: :clap: i will except any decision that the moderators make , i will just say to all tcb members and staff thank you for giving me a voice and it has bin a sincere pleasure being a member, many thanx, for the oppourtunity.

[jadedragon61]

I'm afraid all of you are wrong: the footage belongs to me. Who am I? Well, I refuse to divulge that information until such time as when I can cash in.

And, beleive me brother, somebody is going to cahs in...

[srj1967]

Is anybody else as bored by this back'n'forth about unreleased footage? :hmm:

If anybody is actually sitting on anything out there, then I say to you again: post either a couple of still frames or five d-a-m-n seconds of the stuff to shut the naysayers up. This excuse of "If I post it, someone will steal it and put it on the net and make money" is tiresome.

Just five seconds. That's all.

To the moderators: may I suggest shutting this thread down altogether ... and then start it up again ONLY WHEN SOMEBODY HAS THE GUTS TO POST SOME FOOTAGE.

[jadedragon61]

Ok, I'll post THREE seconds but ya gotta choke up $19.95, plus shipping, handling, tax, and misc. other surcharges and fees - just gimme yer credit card number and I'll take care of the rest...

[srj1967]

Ok, I'll post THREE seconds but ya gotta choke up $19.95, plus shipping, handling, tax, and misc. other surcharges and fees - just gimme yer credit card number and I'll take care of the rest...

Sure. Let me just get out my wallet ....

Ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaa :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

[senadw124]

Ok, I'll post THREE seconds but ya gotta choke up $19.95, plus shipping, handling, tax, and misc. other surcharges and fees - just gimme yer credit card number and I'll take care of the rest...



What about just posting those three seconds, and not take charge for it. I wouldn't even pay $2 for three seconds :P

[Mr.Aron77]

speaking of gramar 33 [yes i know its you again under a differn't name] did you check the way you spelled WOULDN'T, in your last post[hahahahahah], and go ahaed and report me, you are the one who responded, to this thread and have attacked me and my claims, your story of the car lot and museum[which one is it get your story straight before posting], i will no longer ruin this thread with a response, like why not present some factual proof for your musuem /car lot story, another thing the colonels collection contained many valuble artifacts. I appoligise to all of those who post here but people like this are only looking to cause trouble[especially when they have bin kicked off in the past and are now using a beard] coward.:clap: :clap: :clap: i will except any decision that the moderators make , i will just say to all tcb members and staff thank you for giving me a voice and it has bin a sincere pleasure being a member, many thanx, for the oppourtunity.

You really are an *****.

[Mr.Aron77]

i alsp have and many have asked that question , if they have i and qwn it why not release it, well they did add some new stuff on THE ELVIS BY THE PRESLEYS DVDeg- karatee[even though its only 3 minutes- why not give us a dvd of all the footage ?, tHEN THEY RELEASED the honalulu interview on the revamped budget dvd[again not complete] and lets nit forget the JAPANEESE tv crews film of nov 17[ mind you only 12 minutes in length[ , but i'm certain they have this in their possession[culled from colobels collection]. thath's the golden question WHY?


EPE do not have the Hawaii 72' footage.

If you did some resarch you would discover this.

Perhaps your emails do not recieve a reply - for obvious reasons.

[memphis 77]

I'm afraid all of you are wrong: the footage belongs to me. Who am I? Well, I refuse to divulge that information until such time as when I can cash in.

And, beleive me brother, somebody is going to cahs in...

can you tell us what film you are talking about, is it the buffallo 72 footage?

[memphis 77]

EPE do not have the Hawaii 72' footage.

If you did some resarch you would discover this.

Perhaps your emails do not recieve a reply - for obvious reasons.

now we see the person we are dealing with [uninformed], so where is the print . of the museum story, car lot- yes 33 i believe you have no relevance to this thread, .

[memphis 77]

Is anybody else as bored by this back'n'forth about unreleased footage? :hmm:

If anybody is actually sitting on anything out there, then I say to you again: post either a couple of still frames or five d-a-m-n seconds of the stuff to shut the naysayers up. This excuse of "If I post it, someone will steal it and put it on the net and make money" is tiresome.

Just five seconds. That's all.

To the moderators: may I suggest shutting this thread down altogether ... and then start it up again ONLY WHEN SOMEBODY HAS THE GUTS TO POST SOME FOOTAGE.

if your bored and frustrated, just pass on this thread, there are many others on this forum that can keep you interested. But again if the moderators decide to take it down then their decision will be respected.

[Tony Trout]

Shouldn't fighting be reserved for PMs and such? The forum is no place for it....

Lighten up, guys! Geez!! :cursing: :angry: (n) :mad:


Oh, and I've never dealt with Larry patrick but I've heard that he's just another rip-off....

[memphis 77]

Shouldn't fighting be reserved for PMs and such? The forum is no place for it....

Lighten up, guys! Geez!! :cursing: :angry: (n) :mad:


Oh, and I've never dealt with Larry patrick but I've heard that he's just another rip-off....

you are surly right TONY , i shall relinquish my participation in this thread , thanks to all who have contributed, info, views etc.. i do hope you guys find what you are looking for, especially from the new post from jadedragon 61.(y)

[srj1967]

i shall relinquish my participation in this thread


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[Mr.Aron77]

now we see the person we are dealing with [uninformed], so where is the print . of the museum story, car lot- yes 33 i believe you have no relevance to this thread, .


EPE do not have the Hawaii 72 footage as this poster claims.

The museum story is also available to those who wish to look for it.

Frankly Memphis77, you appear to be quite confrontational and childish with this - 'I'm right, you're wrong attitude.'

Provide some evidence instead of making outlandish claims. You have been proven to be incorrect in a number of your assumptions - most recently that EPE have the Hawaii 72 footage in their possession.

I think the majority of this forum find you quite difficult to understand, mainly due to your claims and poor posting style.

[KPM]

heres a great example of the buffalo show being filmed, by unmanned camera, on tripod, i first thought maybe it's for cct, but for that they don't film on the stage, this is definetly a vtr camera the same as the late actor BOB CRANE had back in the late 60's , this is definetly a b/w model, colour models were much larger-wheres this film- no dought the whole performance was taped, whats the quality, it cant be that great since it is not manned, this photo and others were found in tunzis book of some years back, at the garde. thanx for postin christain.

Joe Tunzi was asked about this picture heres the question and answer:
In your excellent book "Elvis- Encore Performance II" on page 73 we can see a camera on the stage mounted on a tripod. Do you know if this camera could be related in some manners to the previous question on the footage filmed at the opening show at Madison Square Garden ?

JOE: "believe that camera was for security purposes so they could monitor the show. It isn't related at all to the aforementioned footage."

Does not mean it could not have been filming but would have been about like 8mm since it was unmanned I would suspect.

[KPM]

Here is an answer to a question he got in Oct. 06 along the same lines of this thread:

14. Did they film Boston in 1971 and do you know if any other professional footage concert wise exists? (Question from Darren Cavanagh)

Joe: I?ve heard the rumor about this being filmed and it continually gets repeated but I seriously doubt that Boston was filmed professionally. I?ve heard that someone claimed to have seen the footage and that it was dark and that it was difficult to make out Elvis in the film. The question then is what good is this footage? Also, is this actually professional footage or is it merely amateur footage shot by an audience member. I have come to the conclusion that at the Madison Square Garden press conference when Elvis was asked about this, the person who posed the question simply meant to say Buffalo instead of Boston, which makes more sense since cameras were in Buffalo at the beginning of the April ?72 tour which filmed Elvis rehearsing.

[KPM]

i suppose the films/videod that he has from LEN LEECH, DEE BIGALOW, JEAN BLANKENSHIP, JOHN GADORE, LARRY YATES, SEAN SHAVER- are his also and he is a huckster selling others films for profit, i never sell E.P. and all my films will never end up in this guy s hands, he's a total crook, ask him to produce the transfer sheets and reels of all his so called films.
All I can say is he has never ripped me off. He does tell you up front he has bought the 8mm footage from others over the last 30 years. Can I say for a fact he (or anyone else) has-no. But he seems a decent guy and I've never heard a harsh word from him personally.

[memphis 77]

thanks for clearing all that up kpm, re LARRY -many fans do complain when they get the dvd or video that the quality is pretty bad, and that they were over charged. I'm glad that you have not had a bad expierience, but others have . Again i thank you for clearing up the footage claims/questions, but TUNZI does nt deny that the boston footage exists. I forget who filmed the karate footageclip that appears in THIS IS ELVIS [elvis wearing powder blue suit] but this was also denied to exist until it was in this is ... movie, this looks to be 8mm[but don't quote me].just a another example of what i'm tring to interject and present in this thread.

[memphis 77]

EPE do not have the Hawaii 72 footage as this poster claims.

The museum story is also available to those who wish to look for it.

Frankly Memphis77, you appear to be quite confrontational and childish with this - 'I'm right, you're wrong attitude.'

Provide some evidence instead of making outlandish claims. You have been proven to be incorrect in a number of your assumptions - most recently that EPE have the Hawaii 72 footage in their possession.

I think the majority of this forum find you quite difficult to understand, mainly due to your claims and poor posting style.
ok so post the info, i sure never heard about this and i was always in contact with parker throuh out the 40 years that i have bin into E.P. you have yet to prove me wrong in my staements , until so i lol at your sheer irrelevamce to this thread or forum, but then again i expect nothing better from a so called fan who has no idea about this subject whatsoever.:clap: :clap: :clap: oh yes and teacher please grade me on my grammar.

[KPM]

I have not watched "This is Elvis"in a number of years. About how far into it is the karate footage in the powder blue suit? I can only recall the footage which Elvis had filmed for his karate movie- in the white & red karate gei.
Is the powder blue footage stage footage? If it were on DVD it would make it much easier to find but its VHS.

[memphis 77]

I have not watched "This is Elvis"in a number of years. About how far into it is the karate footage in the powder blue suit? I can only recall the footage which Elvis had filmed for his karate movie- in the white & red karate gei.
Is the powder blue footage stage footage? If it were on DVD it would make it much easier to find but its VHS.
yeah it's toward the end and montaged with funeral coverage and trilogy [audio], the footage was really nice[looks as though it filmed with small bell n howell hand held] sure hope they decide to release a revamped version of the movie in 7.1 [blue ray] it would be a dream.

[srj1967]

i shall relinquish my participation in this thread(y)

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[memphis 77]

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yep, im back-sorry to disapoint ya, but as stated,your welcome to leave , and post elswhere, i'm confused as you stated that this thread was a bore , yet you keep comming back?