Who is the most liar in the Elvis world?

[Donut]

After reading too many stories and books about Elvis in the last years I?ve come to realise that a lot of them are in a kind of competition of who new him most and who was closer to him. Some people even claim to know him in depth because they had telephone conversations with him. There are women that assures you that they had Elvis?s child. But almost neither of them shows any clear evidence of his connection to Elvis or real proofe when they have the chance to do it. Then there are people who was really there (some friend, wife, family...) that sells a story that can be easily contrasted and proved to be a lie and that makes me so mad because we buy all that s..t and waste or money wanting to know a little more about Elvis.
So I?d like to know who in your opinion would be "The Winner of Telling Lies" in the Elvis world and why so people don?t get in the trap of buying crap from them.

[srj1967]

Priscilla is the biggest liar in the Elvis world as far as I'm concerned. The reasons have been detailed elsewhere on these forums. Wouldn't cross the street to meet her.
But of the Elvis guys, I reckon Larry Geller is so full of s**t, he could open up his own fertiliser supply company. Spiritual advisor, my ***!

[presley]

I don't think priscilla is the biggest lair, she done things, but we have all done things too! You can't always believe what you read, and what you hear, If it wasn't for her graceland wouldn't be open and elvis lengend wouldn't be as big as it is today. We won't there when she was elvis, we don't know the real story, so l won't judge cause l wasn't there.

[jak]

Priscilla is the biggest liar in the Elvis world as far as I'm concerned. The reasons have been detailed elsewhere on these forums. Wouldn't cross the street to meet her.
But of the Elvis guys, I reckon Larry Geller is so full of s**t, he could open up his own fertiliser supply company. Spiritual advisor, my ***!


Im sorry but this statement is unbelieveable.She's worse than Dee Presley,Lucy Debarin and Elvis' cousin's?I wish somebody would just list down the biggest lies she has told so i can react to them.If im wrong I will admit.Just list a few of them if it's possible.
Jak

[presley]

what the sense bashing someone, that nobody really cares about??

[elvislady]

I think this is a difficult question to answer. i think most people around elvis might have lied about something or other even if its only a little white lie.
elvislady

[Diane]

All of them........some worse than others, that's all.:'(

[meg]

Earl Greenwood and Lucy de Barbin(n)

[Polk-Salad-Annie]

I don't agree with Diane.(n)
Charle Hodge and JD Sumner were Elvis closest friends.
I never heard Charlie or JD lie about Elvis.
The others...i have my doubts about them.

[Diane]

You're right Stutz1973. I didn't think long enough before I posted the above. I agree that Charlie and J.D. were the best friends Elvis had.:notworthy

[ForeverTheKing]

Charlie Hodge was absolutely the best! :clap:

Some are "so and so" to me, some others...I prefer saying nothing :lol:

[Donut]

Im sorry but this statement is unbelieveable.She's worse than Dee Presley,Lucy Debarin and Elvis' cousin's?I wish somebody would just list down the biggest lies she has told so i can react to them.If im wrong I will admit.Just list a few of them if it's possible.
Jak

There you go and these are just some of them. If you have read "Elvis and me" or heard from her the fairytale you?ll understand what the information on these pics mean.

[Donut]

There goes ... some more

[Diane]

Donut, you're incredible! These photographs and captions say it all!:D :D :D

[presley]

you can't always believe what you read in books!!!!!!!!

[Donut]

you can't always believe what you read in books!!!!!!!!

You are right, That?s why I wouldn?t recommend "elvis and Me" or "Elvis by the Presleys" to anybody.

[presley]

i did like the elvis by the presleys for the unseen footage of elvis, and lisa marie, and that about it.

[vulcandude]

You are right, That?s why I wouldn?t recommend "elvis and Me" or "Elvis by the Presleys" to anybody.Personally I thought both of these books are fantastic. Especially "Elvis By The Presleys".....I could not put it down! I think the award for biggest Elvis liar would have to go to the Stanleys.

[presley]

Yes the stanleys have told the biggest lies!!!

[jak]

There goes ... some more

Youre talking about events nearly 50 years ago in the photos.You and I have no way of verifing evets from Germany.Memories are shaky at best.Are these events before the marriage the reason she's hated?Even if she has lied about a few things guess what.I have told lies in my life and so has every person reading this posts.Let's not be so hypocritical and hold people up to unfair standards.What lies did she instigate if any while married to Elvis?Are their any?
Jak

[Donut]

Youre talking about events nearly 50 years ago in the photos.You and I have no way of verifing evets from Germany.Memories are shaky at best.Are these events before the marriage the reason she's hated?Even if she has lied about a few things guess what.I have told lies in my life and so has every person reading this posts.Let's not be so hypocritical and hold people up to unfair standards.What lies did she instigate if any while married to Elvis?Are their any?
Jak

JAk I can?t understand you really. Didn?t you ask for lies told by her ? Don?t go around and around now and ask if I have told lies in my life just because I found some of them. If you want we can start a new thread here confessing all our lies that we sure have told but we don?t sell them as history to the world and get money for them (our money). Don?t use the cheap excuse some folks here use when they find facts and feel trapped and their only reply is our opinions are based on hate because I know you are more intelligent than that. This thread wasn?t about Priscilla, it?s you who jumps every time you hear her name. So if you want to contadict my post, please do it with facts.
:flowers:

[jak]

I dont know that you posted lies or faded memories.Your caption mentions rape.Did Elvis attempt it?I hope not but I dont know and neither do you.Was he capable of it?I dont know and neither do you.I know she has lied about things because it's human nature and we all do it at one time or another.I can say that about anyone without even knowing them.To many times people judge others while letting their emotions cloud their common sense.It may appear I jump when her name is mentionedIt's only because she never gets a fair deal from so many people.She may be somewhat aloof but that's not a crime.I only brought her up because it's absurd to list her as one of the biggest liars around when so many others certainly deserve it.
Jak

[ForeverTheKing]

JAk I can?t understand you really. Didn?t you ask for lies told by her ? Don?t go around and around now and ask if I have told lies in my life just because I found some of them. If you want we can start a new thread here confessing all our lies that we sure have told but we don?t sell them as history to the world and get money for them (our money). Don?t use the cheap excuse some folks here use when they find facts and feel trapped and their only reply is our opinions are based on hate because I know you are more intelligent than that. This thread wasn?t about Priscilla, it?s you who jumps every time you hear her name. So if you want to contadict my post, please do it with facts.
:flowers:

I agree!(y)
I think it's so obvious that everybody tells lies in his life...nobody is a saint.
The question was about who is, regarding us, the most liar person around him.
It's hard to find a pure man around Elvis...many of them in the years showed their real personality and their real aim: MONEY!
Everybody here have read something different...we can make our own opinion just from what we read and known.
It's a good moment to exchange informations...(y)
If someone has the idea Cilla is not so saint and that she is the most liar...well, he/she can have his/her own reasons (we always finish to talk about her :doh: :yawn: )
We are nobody to have certainty about the facts happened...nobody is here to invent facts but just to share what we heard.
It's hard to know the truth now, with all these people who says different things and theories in their books or interviews....we can have just personal opinions :lol:

[Donut]

I dont know that you posted lies or faded memories.Your caption mentions rape.Did Elvis attempt it?I hope not but I dont know and neither do you.Was he capable of it?I dont know and neither do you.I know she has lied about things because it's human nature and we all do it at one time or another.I can say that about anyone without even knowing them.To many times people judge others while letting their emotions cloud their common sense.It may appear I jump when her name is mentionedIt's only because she never gets a fair deal from so many people.She may be somewhat aloof but that's not a crime.I only brought her up because it's absurd to list her as one of the biggest liars around when so many others certainly deserve it.
Jak

No JAK the caption mentions Priscilla told that Currie Grant tried to rape her (he was the one who intorduced her to Elvis) and in "Elvis and Me" ( the mini series ) Elvis throws a fit to him when Priscilla tells Elvis and according to her banished him for ever and won?t allow him to come back to his home. But you can see how he was the one who rode them to the airport when Elvis was discharged from the army. The story goes she tells it because Currie had had sex with her and she is afraid he could tell it (and in fact he did) and contradict her story of being a virgin and innocent girl she had made up to be liked by Elvis. ( I don?t have a time machine to witness the intercourse in question so I can?t swear it above the bible )
And yes my friend... she told in Elvis and me that Elvis rapped her when she told him she was leaving in Vegas ( that makes a total of 2 rapes by now )
The other captions mentions the boyfriends she had in the total of 2 years before he met Elvis again and one of them her parents wanted her to drop in favor of Elvis. Contradicting again her claim that her parents wouldn?t allow her to go to Memphis and that Elvis was the only man in his life since the day she met him.
That book is detailed with 300 interviews made by the autor to the guys in question, neighbors, school class mates etc....
If you want me to show you more I will but it will take time because Priscilla is not the center of my life and I have obligations, family and friends to attend to.

[Donut]

The thing is I started this post whit the idea of people that has find contradictions in the people around Elvis that has writen books or stories that are proved to be lies to share with us because I sometimes feel they think we fans are silly people with no brain that can take in and believe what they say, take our money and no questioning them.

[jak]

No JAK the caption mentions Priscilla told that Currie Grant tried to rape her (he was the one who intorduced her to Elvis) and in "Elvis and Me" ( the mini series ) Elvis throws a fit to him when Priscilla tells Elvis and according to her banished him for ever and won?t allow him to come back to his home. But you can see how he was the one who rode them to the airport when Elvis was discharged from the army. The story goes she tells it because Currie had had sex with her and she is afraid he could tell it (and in fact he did) and contradict her story of being a virgin and innocent girl she had made up to be liked by Elvis. ( I don?t have a time machine to witness the intercourse in question so I can?t swear it above the bible )
And yes my friend... she told in Elvis and me that Elvis rapped her when she told him she was leaving in Vegas ( that makes a total of 2 rapes by now )
The other captions mentions the boyfriends she had in the total of 2 years before he met Elvis again and one of them her parents wanted her to drop in favor of Elvis. Contradicting again her claim that her parents wouldn?t allow her to go to Memphis and that Elvis was the only man in his life since the day she met him.
That book is detailed with 300 interviews made by the autor to the guys in question, neighbors, school class mates etc....
If you want me to show you more I will but it will take time because Priscilla is not the center of my life and I have obligations, family and friends to attend to.

A young girl lying to impress someone like Elvis wouldnt surprise me one bit.Maybe Elvis did rape her?I have no idea.I thought she used a term like forced himself rather than rape for the time in Vegas but I cant remember.How could we possibly know if she's lying?The point is we dont.She is attacked I think because the fans dont like to hear negative comments about their hero and sometimes the truth doesnt match the fairytale.Overall her good doings for Elvis have far outweighed the bad over the long haul.Now everyone go out and watch the naked gun movies she's real good in those;)
Jak

[Donut]

Maybe Elvis did rape her?I have no idea.I thought she used a term like forced himself rather than rape for the time in Vegas but I cant remember. Jak

You are right Jack, to make love forcefully has two possible meanings :
1- to be raped
2- to practice sado-masochism

Enjoy the film :king:

[jak]

You are right Jack, to make love forcefully has two possible meanings :
1- to be raped
2- to practice sado-masochism

Enjoy the film :king:

Many people like #2.Glad to see you got your obligations taken care of and had time to enlighten me:)

[Donut]

Many people like #2.Glad to see you got your obligations taken care of and had time to enlighten me:)

You are wellcome. I have one more hour before going to work. If you need me just whistle. ;)

[jak]

You are wellcome. I have one more hour before going to work. If you need me just whistle. ;)

Thank you for your help.However I dont want to antagonize you before you go to work.I hope you have a good day.I however, am at work and our little discussion has given me a small diversion so I thank you.
Jak

[Donut]

Thank you for your help.However I dont want to antagonize you before you go to work.I hope you have a good day.I however, am at work and our little discussion has given me a small diversion so I thank you.
Jak

Same here it?s good to have someone to discuss with when neither of them insults or forget their manners ;)

[jak]

Same here it?s good to have someone to discuss with when neither of them insults or forget their manners ;)

You just feel free to put me in my place if I ever need it.
Jak

[Diane]

If you ever need it??:D Jak, Jak:lol: :lol:

[jak]

If you ever need it??:D Jak, Jak:lol: :lol:

I guess I asked for that one.

[0349054]

After reading too many stories and books about Elvis in the last years I?ve come to realise that a lot of them are in a kind of competition of who new him most and who was closer to him. Some people even claim to know him in depth because they had telephone conversations with him. There are women that assures you that they had Elvis?s child. But almost neither of them shows any clear evidence of his connection to Elvis or real proofe when they have the chance to do it. Then there are people who was really there (some friend, wife, family...) that sells a story that can be easily contrasted and proved to be a lie and that makes me so mad because we buy all that s..t and waste or money wanting to know a little more about Elvis.
So I?d like to know who in your opinion would be "The Winner of Telling Lies" in the Elvis world and why so people don?t get in the trap of buying crap from them.


Ah where to start!

Priscilla has always told stories.
Dick Grob.
The Colonel.....didn't exactly lie, but wasnt very forthcoming with the truth.
The Stanleys....the whole lot of them, including Dee.

Could go on a bit more here...........

[rachel162cl]

lucy de barbin it is for me and vernon's ex-wife dee

[Donut]

Could anybody tell me what lies have the Stanleys told ? They seem to be dangerously near to win the liar ward here and must be for something...

[Diane]

Donut, someone on TCB here told me that Billy Stanley was always telling people that Elvis had been heavily into cocaine. David Stanley says Elvis committed suicide and Dee Stanley said in her book that Elvis' relationship with his mother was "not healthy".

So yes, I guess we could safely say that the Stanley's have been the biggest liars of all.

[jak]

Donut, someone on TCB here told me that Billy Stanley was always telling people that Elvis had been heavily into cocaine. David Stanley says Elvis committed suicide and Dee Stanley said in her book that Elvis' relationship with his mother was "not healthy".

So yes, I guess we could safely say that the Stanley's have been the biggest liars of all.

Youre being very polite in describing what she said about the relationship between Elvis and his mom.Of all the lies about Elvis this one wins the prize.Dee Stanley is at the bottom of the barrell in my eyes.Elvis did nothing but help her and her kids when he was alive.Forget certain members of the memphis mafia.Dee is the number one backstabber in my book.I know why she made the statement but she must not have one trace of dignity.
Jak

[Donut]

Donut, someone on TCB here told me that Billy Stanley was always telling people that Elvis had been heavily into cocaine. David Stanley says Elvis committed suicide and Dee Stanley said in her book that Elvis' relationship with his mother was "not healthy".

So yes, I guess we could safely say that the Stanley's have been the biggest liars of all.

Thank you Diane.
Maybe it was Dee whom would have wanted to have a "non healthy" relation with Elvis?

[Diane]

I think anything was possible with that woman Donut all the time pretending to be so religious - what a hypocrite!(n)

[meg]

I think anything was possible with that woman Donut all the time pretending to be so religious - what a hypocrite!(n)

Who is a hypocrite? Dee?:)

[Diane]

Yes Meg, I was refering to Dee as the hypocrite.:D

[meg]

Yes Meg, I was refering to Dee as the hypocrite.:D


(y) (y) (y)

[ginettelovetheboy]

Sorry I am kind of new here so don't know to much about the forum but I will say what I think... I really think that all of them did a lot of dammage to Elvis and wrote and said a lot of lies cilla right in there... but I do agree that Charlie and JD were very close and loved Elvis all the way... I think it is very sad that a lot of leeches were around... and the Stanley's it goes without saying really...

[Raised on Rock]

I just like to say that when it comes to cheap ones the Stanleys and that guy Earlwood are the most, when it comes for Orwellian 1984 type ones, (mass manipulation and the spread of the official convenient true depending on $$$ interest) Elvis Presley Enterprises are ah, lets say: the King of Rock and Roll.

And dont forget Goldman, a reading worst than being hangover waching Clambake for the 29th time.

[CurlySusi]

There you go and these are just some of them. If you have read "Elvis and me" or heard from her the fairytale you´ll understand what the information on these pics mean.

What "LIES" do these pictures reveal?

She wrote her book and called it "Elvis & Me"...Why should she have talked about the boyfriends she "might" have had after Elvis had left Germany? She wrote a book about her time with Elvis - not about what was she was doing while he went back home.

Of course did she have other dates! Why not? Any of us would have probably had other dates. I mean, Elvis called her from time to time but she could never really expect to see him again.....

Should she have spent TWO YEARS crying? She was a beautiful young girl....

Did she ever claim she didn't know the men she dated in Germany? I can't remember....she just doesn't talk about them....And now I ask you: Why should she do that?

[riley]

She also lied about where she was when Elvis died. The time table she is laying out is not correct


Leroy, any idea where she was then.

I tought she wrote she was on her way to her sister with the car and she came from the heardresser .

That is her version.

Riley

[CurlySusi]

I'm afraid you didn't get the message Donut tried to get across. On the pictures you see Priscilla with Currie Grant photographed somewhere in 1961. She has told in her book that Currie raped her while being on their way to Elvis somewhere in 1959. I'm sorry but the pictures only prove that the rape probably didn't took place Who wants to be photographed with someone who raped you only two years proir.... And that's only one lie. I would strongly advice you to read a copy of "Child Bride".

She also lied about where she was when Elvis died. The time table she is laying out is not correct.

I read "Child Bride"......And Carrie Grant: Well, what should one think of a married adult man abusing a 14 year old girl?s dream of Elvis Presley to have sex with her? He should be ashamed of it....that's what I thought while reading this book...

[CurlySusi]

I'm afraid you didn't get the message Donut tried to get across. On the pictures you see Priscilla with Currie Grant photographed somewhere in 1961. She has told in her book that Currie raped her while being on their way to Elvis somewhere in 1959. I'm sorry but the pictures only prove that the rape probably didn't took place Who wants to be photographed with someone who raped you only two years proir.... And that's only one lie. I would strongly advice you to read a copy of "Child Bride".

She also lied about where she was when Elvis died. The time table she is laying out is not correct.

I read "Child Bride"......And Carrie Grant: Well, what should one think of a married adult man abusing a 14 year old?s dream of Elvis Presley to have sex with her? He should be ashamed of it....that's what I thought while reading this book...

[Donut]

What "LIES" do these pictures reveal?

She wrote her book and called it "Elvis & Me"...Why should she have talked about the boyfriends she "might" have had after Elvis had left Germany? She wrote a book about her time with Elvis - not about what was she was doing while he went back home.

Of course did she have other dates! Why not? Any of us would have probably had other dates. I mean, Elvis called her from time to time but she could never really expect to see him again.....

Should she have spent TWO YEARS crying? She was a beautiful young girl....

Did she ever claim she didn't know the men she dated in Germany? I can't remember....she just doesn't talk about them....And now I ask you: Why should she do that?


Leroy just explained it to you in the post above. I too think you get it wrong, just read the post following the pictures. I don?t care if she dated men when Elvis left Germany or not but yes, her story goes that she stayed at home crying for him and that she was a virgin when she married Elvis but those boys (now grown men) and Priscilla?s gilrfriend say just the opposite.
Is Priscilla telling those details who seems to care about that not me, I?m just quoting from a well researched book. The thing is she lied thinking she was alone in the world when those things happened, could she be more silly ? ... I don?t think so.

[CurlySusi]

Leroy just explained it to you in the post above. I too think you get it wrong, just read the post following the pictures. I don?t care if she dated men when Elvis left Germany or not but yes, her story goes that she stayed at home crying for him and that she was a virgin when she married Elvis but those boys (now grown men) and Priscilla?s gilrfriend say just the opposite.
Is Priscilla telling those details who seems to care about that not me, I?m just quoting from a well researched book. The thing is she lied thinking she was alone in the world when those things happened, could she be more silly ? ... I don?t think so.

Again: I can't find a word about "he raped me".....

I didn't know, when he removed his hand from the stirring wheel, if he was going to try to touch me, or just what was on his mind. I had no choice but to tell Elvis......He rarely came around after that.

The book doesn't say there wasn't any more contact.

As for the rest: I do not know who's telling the truth in that story, but in Suzanne Finstad's story Currie Grant's reputation got even worse than in Priscilla's.

When I was reading those lines, I started wondering what kind of man he is. I mean he was married. What did he want from Priscilla then?

Start reading on page 63 in Suzanne Finstad's book and you'll get your own idea of Mr. Grant...

[Donut]

Again: I can't find a word about "he raped me".....

I didn't know, when he removed his hand from the stirring wheel, if he was going to try to touch me, or just what was on his mind. I had no choice but to tell Elvis......He rarely came around after that.

The book doesn't say there wasn't any more contact.

As for the rest: I do not know who's telling the truth in that story, but in Suzanne Finstad's story Currie Grant's reputation got even worse than in Priscilla's.

When I was reading those lines, I started wondering what kind of man he is. I mean he was married. What did he want from Priscilla then?

Start reading on page 63 in Suzanne Finstad's book and you'll get your own idea of Mr. Grant...

Page 42 of "Elvis and Me". Maybe you lost that page.
Elvis had a friend whom we?ll call Kurt ( not his real name )
Kurt was driving me from Elvis?home to Wiesbaden....
"What?s wrong?" I asked.
"You?ll find out " he said turning his head away....
I began to get frightened
"What?s going on ?"
I repeated my question but Kusrt didn?t asnwer, instead he turned and grabbed me trying to kiss me. I pushed him away struggling. He threw me down on the seat.
Panicked I begged, "Don?t ! Leave me alone !" I started fighting....
Out of fear of being caught he finally gave up. The rest of the way home he never said a word. I just sat there sobbing, disbelieving praying that I would get home safely............................................ ..........
Finally Kurt called and said Elvis wanted to see me. I had no choice but to go with him.....
That evening when we were alone in Elvis room Elvis asked me if anything was wrong.
When I finally told him Elvis went berserk. "I?m going to kill him" he shouted. He paced the floor cursing Kurt...
Elvis was so incensed it took me the whole evening to calm him down...
From that time on Kurt was was virtually excluded from Elvis life...

[jak]

If I read that passage right she said he gave up so she wasnt raped.It really doesnt matter.I think any 14-16 year old girl being courted by Elvis would say just about anything to get him at that time.I still dont think any girl that age was any match for the vastly experienced Elvis Presley.Once Elvis left Germany he could have easily left her behind.The whole being forced stuff just doesnt hold water.Some portray her as a piranah back then stalking Elvis.If that's true I would say Elvis was a great white shark in comparison.Dont be to harsh on me Donut;)
Jak

[Donut]

If I read that passage right she said he gave up so she wasnt raped.It really doesnt matter.I think any 14-16 year old girl being courted by Elvis would say just about anything to get him at that time.I still dont think any girl that age was any match for the vastly experienced Elvis Presley.Once Elvis left Germany he could have easily left her behind.The whole being forced stuff just doesnt hold water.Some portray her as a piranah back then stalking Elvis.If that's true I would say Elvis was a great white shark in comparison.Dont be to harsh on me Donut;)
Jak

LOLOL Nice to see you here Jak!
Maybe Elvis was a white shark but Priscilla has made up so many stories that she sure has to bring with her notes to remember what she has told before to be able to give an interview.

[CurlySusi]

If I read that passage right she said he gave up so she wasnt raped.It really doesnt matter.I think any 14-16 year old girl being courted by Elvis would say just about anything to get him at that time.I still dont think any girl that age was any match for the vastly experienced Elvis Presley.Once Elvis left Germany he could have easily left her behind.The whole being forced stuff just doesnt hold water.Some portray her as a piranah back then stalking Elvis.If that's true I would say Elvis was a great white shark in comparison.Dont be to harsh on me Donut;)
Jak

Exactly!(y)

[Donut]

Really... has any of you read the text on the pics ???
I think you did but you ran out of pretexts to deffend you theory.
Have a nice saturday

[meg]

She told Elvis banished Currie.........Look the picture....


A smiling Priscilla with Currie at the photo shoot in Germany in April 1961,the year after she claims he was banished by her parents and Elvis.


So a liar is Priscilla(n) (n)

[poormansgold]

I look that Elvis Is same We are , We do made mistakes In our life. We never know the true about him, we got storys that have some white lies and true.
I'm not Perfect , god give this special Gift and people don't know how to react
to it. they put me down of the list.
liked Elvis he was special person like me it's in Diff'rent way. I never talk
A normal my life time or be big superstar.
when people know Elvis, there will be lies they saying about him, times true is bad the lies is.
I read alot books that's are bad...... I stop here for know

[Ejm1059]

There are are a lot of people who told lies about Elvis, just so they can make a profit. It's very sad and disrespectful. But as Elvis fans we should block the negetive accusations and try to remeber that Elvis was a beautiful person who cared for a lot of people. And if those people abuse that and make lies about him after all he did for them...well let them. Its a sad thing, but it's life and we should just focus on the people who've writen positive things about him like Charlie Hodge or Jerry Schilling.

[jak]

By the way, "rape" does not automaticly means "Sexual intercourse". The attack on itself and the struggling is also rape.

Not in court it isnt.I guess I always will side on Priscilla's side during the time Elvis knew her in Germany.It's just that she was so young.Any girl that age would have been seeing stars whenever Elvis was around.If the situation with her was in fact a complete mistake, including the mariage,I can only blame Elvis because he was a grown man.To though them two were meant to be together.I have always believed Elvis knew he broke up his family and he regretted it.I hope everyone here in the states had a good turkey day and enjoys the rest of the weekend.That goes double for you Donut since you didnt use me as a punching bag:D
Jak

[Donut]

Not in court it isnt.I guess I always will side on Priscilla's side during the time Elvis knew her in Germany.It's just that she was so young.Any girl that age would have been seeing stars whenever Elvis was around.If the situation with her was in fact a complete mistake, including the mariage,I can only blame Elvis because he was a grown man.To though them two were meant to be together.I have always believed Elvis knew he broke up his family and he regretted it.I hope everyone here in the states had a good turkey day and enjoys the rest of the weekend.That goes double for you Donut since you didnt use me as a punching bag:D
Jak

OOH jak !!! see what you made me do!!! :doh:
Enjoy your turkey, you know that deep in my heart I love you and that shows . Who would I fight with then ? :)

[jak]

OOH jak !!! see what you made me do!!! :doh:
Enjoy your turkey, you know that deep in my heart I love you and that shows . Who would I fight with then ? :)

Hey Donut
Very nice graph.It helps me to understand things when I get pictures.I think I might miss our little spats too.We can be friends, but when it comes to Miss Priss let's just lock horns and fire both barrells;) I will send you a nice glossy 8x10 of Priss for xmas:D
Jak