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senadw124
11-17-2006, 04:34 PM
How can it be that Cilla still uses Elvis' last name, despite that they were divorced? Is it just because of the Presleyname fame, and the money?
I think it's ridiculous (n)
What about you? :king:
presley
11-17-2006, 04:36 PM
I don't think it is silly, l know lots of people who are divorced have the same name as there exes. I think she choose to keep that name yes for money but to for lisa marie.
Jumpsuit Junkie
11-17-2006, 05:52 PM
How can it be that Cilla still uses Elvis' last name, despite that they were divorced? Is it just because of the Presleyname fame, and the money?
I think it's ridiculous (n)
What about you? :king:
First of all lets put a few facts together to build up some basis for an honest answer........
Elvis filed for divorce on 18 August 1972.
May of 1973 - Priscilla had reopened the divorce case. The settlement on the face of it was clearly one-sided: for a man of such wealth to pay little more than $100,000 in a state where community property was the rule, and for both parties to be represented by the husband's lawyers was unfair - but that's what SHE wanted. Then she got involved in redecorating her new Pacific Palisades apartment (which Elvis had gladly agreed to pay for), and with part of the $50,000 that she received as an initial payment toward the settlement, she opened up a designer clothing shop in Beverely Hills, called Bis & Beau. Evidently the realities of doing business led her to a new-found appreciation for the financial realities of life. Her new lawyer introduced a motion to set aside the agreed upon settlement on the basis of "extrinsic fraud"
October 9, 1973 - Elvis' divorce decree was finalized in Los Angeles County Superior Courthouse in Santa Monica by Judge Laurence J Rittenland.
THE SETTLEMENT - Elvis would pay $125,000 in cash, plus $6000 a month for 10 years, (added to the $4000 he was paying for child support, even though they both had joint custody, and he's paying $10,000 per month!!) He gave Priscilla half the sale of the Hillcrest house (It finally sold on August 31 for $450,000), plus $4200 a month (now we're up to $14,200 per month!!) for spousal support for a year AND 5 percent of the new publishing companies, amounted to close to TWO MILLION DOLLARS!!
Priscilla went back to her maiden name.
Elvis dates Linda Thompson from July 6th 1972 until late 1976
Elvis dies August 16th 1977 and his last will and testament leaves Vernon as the executar of the will and air to Graceland.
Vernon died 26th June 1979, Priscilla coaxed Vernon to sign over Graceland and the estate just prior to his death.
Priscilla Goes back to using the name Presley
Priscilla lived with Brazilian screenwriter-director Marco Garibaldi from 1984 until April 2006, they have one son, Navarone
The question to ask is why Priscilla has kept the name Presley :hmm: is it because the name Presley is a multi million dollar franchise?
Credit has to be given to Priscilla, she dragged the estate from near bankruptcy in 1977 to a multi millian dollar empire, could she have done this without the Presley name?
Whether you like Priscilla or not she has made some tough decisions over the years this however has nothing to do whatsoever with how she then turned into a megalomaniac who has taken people to court for Image and name rights with a overzelus need to control all things Elvis Presley, If this was done to protect the future for the Presley family can now be called into question with the subsquent sale of the Presley brand to Robert Sillerman.
I can't help but feel the corprate brand Presley has helped Priscilla to hawk her second rate offerings including her latest venture... bedding?
You have to make you own mind up ;)
presley
11-17-2006, 06:04 PM
l don't know her at all, so who l'am to judge
Though I'm an Elvis fan for life, I don't have anything against Priscilla . I met her one time, she was friendly to me despite the fact she's bashed constantly . Does she tend to see History from her side? Sure,but who doesn't.
presley
11-17-2006, 06:24 PM
l have to agree with you there!
Junkie
You bring up some good points.The truth is that Elvis has become a commodity.I fear that Elvis the icon has overshadowed the artist somewhat nowdays.I think her selling the rights to Sillerman was a smart move.EPE has had strong earnings for years but they havent grown.Sillerman runs a media empire and may be able to take it to new levels.Particulary in the overseas market.I think it could also mean that a downward trend might have been anticipated for earnings and they sold while the value was strong.
Jak
Jumpsuit Junkie
11-18-2006, 03:13 AM
Junkie
You bring up some good points.The truth is that Elvis has become a commodity.I fear that Elvis the icon has overshadowed the artist somewhat nowdays.I think her selling the rights to Sillerman was a smart move.EPE has had strong earnings for years but they havent grown.Sillerman runs a media empire and may be able to take it to new levels.Particulary in the overseas market.I think it could also mean that a downward trend might have been anticipated for earnings and they sold while the value was strong.
Jak
I totally agree with what you have said Jak, i am also worried that despite Sillerman owning the rights we haven't heard anything new in the pipeline?
I totally agree with what you have said Jak, i am also worried that despite Sillerman owning the rights we haven't heard anything new in the pipeline?
I know what you mean.Hopefully they are just taking time to plan their strategy and go about things carefully and in a smart fashion.I know they have the plans for an Elvis themed attraction in Vegas.Other than that I havent heard much.He's a very smart man and im sure he's confident this venture will work.Originally when this deal was made it seems like I remember there would be a major focus in the overseas market where Elvis was decribed as "undersold".Let's keep our fingers crossed.
Jak
Jumpsuit Junkie
11-18-2006, 03:48 PM
I know what you mean.Hopefully they are just taking time to plan their strategy and go about things carefully and in a smart fashion.I know they have the plans for an Elvis themed attraction in Vegas.Other than that I havent heard much.He's a very smart man and im sure he's confident this venture will work.Originally when this deal was made it seems like I remember there would be a major focus in the overseas market where Elvis was decribed as "undersold".Let's keep our fingers crossed.
Jak
Yeah i know what you mean about the long game strategy, how long though.
vulcandude
11-18-2006, 07:31 PM
I don't think Priscilla coaxed Vernon into doing anything he did not feel wasn't the right thing. Besides, Lisa Marie was the true heir to the Presley estate, not Vernon. Priscilla has made some very wonderful and shrewd business moves concerning the Elvis Enterprise, and I think she's done great. From opening Graceland's doors in 1982, to recently selling some of the rights to allow the business to grow, she has helped make Elvis bigger now than he was nearly 30 years ago. In a music business that's very competitive and is hard to keep artists that have either passed on, or, like Neil Diamond had their peak 25-30 years ago, I can only applaud her.:clap: Having kept Elvis' last name may have helped in minor cases, but it was she that did it, along with a wonderful staff at Graceland and EPE. So I don't mind it if she kept his last name....I think she's great.(y)
presley
11-18-2006, 08:13 PM
Well said!!!!!!!!
Jumpsuit Junkie
11-19-2006, 03:11 AM
Having kept Elvis' last name may have helped in minor cases
The name Presley is a monolithic brand name that is second to none.
To be associated with the name Presley will open doors in ways that simply would not be available to someone who is just the ex wife of Elvis and using a maiden name.
The reason Priscilla uses the name is overwhelmingly obvious.
Google search engine returns for the following names:-
Presley 23,400,000
Beaulieu 8,770,000
To put this into perpective Coca Cola returns 21,800,000 Hits, so the Presley brand is bigger than Coca Cola in this case.
The name Presley holds prestige and is equivelant to that of Rock & Roll royalty, to say it "helped Priscilla in minor cases" is quite simply a huge understatement.
I'm pretty sure that in no small way Priscilla has contributed to maintaining and promoting the brand Presley and helped it to be where it is today, but let's be under no illusion why she uses the name Presley :D
Matt
Dovey
11-19-2006, 03:26 AM
To be honest with you, this is a Elvis forum, she was his x-wife, and I sick of hearing about her.
Most x-divorcee's do not live their lives on the shirt tails of the deceased spouse... she is different. ... so be it. Dovey ;)
ForeverTheKing
11-19-2006, 04:14 AM
To be honest with you, this is a Elvis forum, she was his x-wife, and I sick of hearing about her.
Most x-divorcee's do not live their lives on the shirt tails of the deceased spouse... she is different. ... so be it. Dovey ;)
Totally agree, Dovey!:clap: (y)
She did many positive things to keep high Elvis name but she could have done it also with her own name, especially now that Lisa is old enough to take care about her legacy.
She still using this name only for opportunity and she knows most of people are interested in her only because of Elvis, especially people in forums like this. We still talk about her only because of her marriage with Elvis...but she's only his exwife...we talk about his other women the same way.
It was obvious for Vernon to let everything in her hands...she could be the only one to protect Lisa's interests (the only possible choice).
But with the years she's started to use that name for others reasons...I don't know if she could have been an actress or could have sold her items with her own name. :lmfao:
The truth is that PRESLEY sells...and this is why she's still keeping it!!
diamond
11-19-2006, 04:52 AM
I agreee with the last two posts ;)
To be honest with you, this is a Elvis forum, she was his x-wife, and I sick of hearing about her.
Most x-divorcee's do not live their lives on the shirt tails of the deceased spouse... she is different. ... so be it. Dovey ;)
Hey Dovey
Most women cant say their ex was Elvis Presley either.Them is some long shirt tails;)
Donut
11-19-2006, 07:23 AM
I?m thinking of using my boss?s name too ...:hmm:
After all I?ve done a lot of good things for the bussiness to help it grow and keep it working ;)
Dovey
11-19-2006, 08:35 AM
Hmmmmmmmmmm, :doh: :doh:
Donut I do like the way you think. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: . We might as well laugh... it just seems to get funnier all the time.... thanks for the laugh.
I think I have worked for a couple really impressive Bosses also.. :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: . mmmm Dovey ;)
Donut
11-19-2006, 09:47 AM
I can?t show respect for people that live from the misseries and achievements of death because they don?t have any talent theirselves. And yes if i reivent my life like her I can be perfect too.
vulcandude
11-19-2006, 09:51 AM
The name Presley is a monolithic brand name that is second to none.
To be associated with the name Presley will open doors in ways that simply would not be available to someone who is just the ex wife of Elvis and using a maiden name.
The reason Priscilla uses the name is overwhelmingly obvious.
Google search engine returns for the following names:-
Presley 23,400,000
Beaulieu 8,770,000
To put this into perpective Coca Cola returns 21,800,000 Hits, so the Presley brand is bigger than Coca Cola in this case.
The name Presley holds prestige and is c, to say it "helped Priscilla in minor cases" is quite simply a huge understatement.
I'm pretty sure that in no small way Priscilla has contributed to maintaining and promoting the brand Presley and helped it to be where it is today, but let's be under no illusion why she uses the name Presley :D
Matt
You just hit the nail on the head here. Elvis is no longer a human being, he's a brand name, a commodity, a business. You say The name Presley is "equivelant to that of Rock & Roll royalty", but it isn't the equivelant, for he is rock n' roll royalty....that's why we call him "The King". I can certainly understand why a Google search would produce more hits on Presley than the last name Beaulieu, because at least 99% of those hits would have been Elvis related. And, even though Priscilla is an ex, she was a Presley. So therefore, her keeping the name shouldn't bring up such contoversy. How would you have liked to have been in her shoes...sounds to me a bit envious if you ask me, and I think we all have a right to be a bit envious. Still, last name Presley or not, I don't think without her Elvis would be where he is today. So, I still applaud her.:clap:
presley
11-19-2006, 10:52 AM
The only thing l'am going to say, is that she's no saint, but that life, plain and simple.
Donut
11-19-2006, 11:18 AM
last name Presley or not, I don't think without her Elvis would be where he is today. So, I still applaud her.:clap:
OMG!!!
I think I?m not going to comment on this because some people here seem to just get out of bed. Maybe I?ll say something when the have to come to their senses.
I?ve nothing against you but I think what you have said here must be lack of sleep properly.
ELVIS was the artist, PRISCILLA is nothing in the artistic world and wouldn?t have been known if he hadn?t had married Elvis.
Diane
11-19-2006, 11:51 AM
Wow what a statement Vulcandude, where did you get this?? :supriced: I hope you were referring to opening Graceland to the public and nothing else.
I sure go with you Donut on this one.;)
ForeverTheKing
11-19-2006, 12:08 PM
OMG!!!
I think I?m not going to comment on this because some people here seem to just get out of bed. Maybe I?ll say something when the have to come to their senses.
I?ve nothing against you but I think what you have said here must be lack of sleep properly.
ELVIS was the artist, PRISCILLA is nothing in the artistic world and wouldn?t have been known if he hadn?t had married Elvis.
Well said!!!(y)
Sometimes someone seems to forget who Elvis was and how talent there was in that man.
Priscilla took good decisions about the business, it's true, but Elvis is still BIG because of Elvis himself, not thanks to Priscilla.
Every decision of that woman is not so pure...I don't think she only cares about Elvis, his legacy and the fans. I thanks her for many things she did in the past but please, don't forget that Elvis will always be remembered for what he did in his life and in more than 20 years of career.
New generations learnt to know his music also thanks to their parents or others fans, not thanks to Priscilla. The only positive thing about Elvis as a business is that we can have access to much more material but...that's all...Elvis sang, Elvis acted, Elvis showed us his big soul.......Priscilla didn't make anything
vulcandude
11-19-2006, 02:15 PM
In response to the previous comments I state only this. Yes, Elvis' voice and talent have kept him popular over the years, but I think it's people like Priscilla, Lisa Marie, the folks at EPE and Graceland who deserve the credit now for Elvis remaining as big as he is, nearly 30 years later. I'm as loyal as any fan, (and no, I sleep fine), but facts are facts. With Elvis gone, he can't exactly promote himself anymore, so I give lots of credit to Priscilla. That's why I applaud her.:clap:
Jumpsuit Junkie
11-19-2006, 03:30 PM
In response to the previous comments I state only this. Yes, Elvis' voice and talent have kept him popular over the years, but I think it's people like Priscilla, Lisa Marie, the folks at EPE and Graceland who deserve the credit now for Elvis remaining as big as he is, nearly 30 years later. I'm as loyal as any fan, (and no, I sleep fine), but facts are facts. With Elvis gone, he can't exactly promote himself anymore, so I give lots of credit to Priscilla. That's why I applaud her.:clap:
I've got to ask the obvious question........... Are you related to Priscilla?
This is an Elvis forum. I think you need to go HERE (http://www.priscillapresley.com/)
Matt
amzietamzie
11-19-2006, 03:57 PM
I agree with Ale (y)
Yes, Elvis can't actively promote himself now, as sadly, he passed away... but when someone dies, especially a star of Elvis' callibre, it doesn't mean that people forget about them or their name vanishes.
Elvis was such a hugely important person in not only music, but the development of the whole entertainment world and American culture itself. He is intrinsically connected to the period in which he was alive and no one can ever forget him because without him, we wouldn't listen to the music we listen to now, we wouldn't see the moves entertainers perform now... he is just such a crucial part of our culture.
I mean, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe and the Kennedys (and I guess a few others) are probably the greatest and most important icons of American culture, in fact even beyond America, and they will always be remembered and treated with a kind of special importance, having a kinda mystical aura about them throughout the world.
I think he deserves all the credit for it. Yes, Priscilla and others opened Graceland and there are many people behind the business side, and of course Lisa Marie... but to me, with or without them, I think Elvis' legacy would always remain and he would stay forever in our minds. And he has gained and will gain new fans, not because of the EPE business and other people, although they may play a part, but also fans passing on their love to new generations and purely because of his voice and talent.
Even if Elvis wasn't so hugely well-known, and Graceland wasn't open and so popular, I guarantee that someone somewhere would be discovering his music for the first time and his songs would be heard by many to this very day. And it would be the music that would get to them, not any business decisions. I wasn't alive when Elvis was but when I heard his music, and went beyond the name, it struck exactly the right chord with me.
Yes, he may have a helping hand in keeping his presence continually in our minds, and advancing in the future, and I do, naturally, give them credit.... I'm not saying that they aren't important or appreciated... but, it is Elvis and Elvis alone who I will thank and applaud for his amazing and never-ending legacy.
Woah, sorry I needed a late-night rant. And as it's late night I might going off on a tangent and writing stuff that doesn't make much sense :blush:
Oh and about Cilla.... I have a mixed opinion about her but I think I'm a bit exhausted of talking about the subject. She has different sides to her and is a complicated lady with a complicated life...
presley
11-19-2006, 03:59 PM
i think we all intited to our own opionions, that how forums keep going,by agree and disagree
Jumpsuit Junkie
11-19-2006, 04:12 PM
I've got to ask the obvious question........... Are you related to Priscilla?
This is an Elvis forum. I think you need to go HERE (http://www.priscillapresley.com/)
Matt
Oh and P.S. My quote "The name Presley holds prestige and is equivelant to that of Rock & Roll royalty"
I will explain as you clearly didn't grasp what was said and then proceeded to give clarification when none was needed.
The Name Presley is equivelant to Rock & Roll royalty, hince the reason why Priscilla uses it
presley
11-19-2006, 04:21 PM
l'am not going to trash someone who can't dish it back.
I've got to ask the obvious question........... Are you related to Priscilla?
This is an Elvis forum. I think you need to go HERE (http://www.priscillapresley.com/)
Matt
Why? Unless I missed something they aren't attacking anyone here, and didn't start the thread, they just happen to not agree with the popular opinion on this forum. This is a great message board community for the most part , do we have to hate someone else to be Elvis fans?
4THEHEART
11-19-2006, 04:58 PM
promoting Elvis??:supriced: EPE or that hero lady ..no one moves a finger to promote Elvis(specially his music) other than producing some ridiculous stuff...:angry: He doesn't owe anything for his ever growing fans or his already established fame..we better reconsider who ows who,the position they are in today.
Diane
11-19-2006, 05:19 PM
Find out who originally suggested to Priscilla that maybe opening Graceland to the public would save it and there you will find the real person who deserves all the credit and who never got it. She was smart enough to run with the idea and find the people (again with help) who could start it in motion and let them do the work and that's where her part in it ends except for the use of her name of the "widow" Presley.
Be reasonable, where did she get any training in finances? She is the figurehead and nothing else.
vulcandude
11-19-2006, 05:43 PM
I've got to ask the obvious question........... Are you related to Priscilla?
This is an Elvis forum. I think you need to go HERE (http://www.priscillapresley.com/)
MattNo Matt, I'm not related to her. As I have mentioned before, I've known her and Lisa Marie somewhere going on 20 years now, and I just think she is due her credit for keeping Elvis' memory alive. Sure, she didn't do it alone, but she is the one I believe who deserves as much credit as anyone in EPE, RCA, or the Graceland staff, if not more so. She's a wonderful person, and just because she's kept the last name Presley should not be a big deal. Like everyone else, including the fans, she just helps keep Elvis be as popular as he was 30 years ago. So, I will again, (until she does something to tarnish Elvis' image), applaud her. You don't have to.:clap:
vulcandude
11-19-2006, 05:49 PM
Why? Unless I missed something they aren't attacking anyone here, and didn't start the thread, they just happen to not agree with the popular opinion on this forum. This is a great message board community for the most part , do we have to hate someone else to be Elvis fans?I agree. Do we have to continually trash Priscilla here? She has a place in Elvis history, and has helped maintain his level of popularity. If I'm disliked for my opinions or for the fact I think Priscilla has done such a great job, I wish somebody would tell me....then I'd know I wasn't welcome here.
presley
11-19-2006, 05:53 PM
l'am glad that somebody is on my side when it comes to priscilla
najial_doombringer
11-19-2006, 08:19 PM
TO ANYONE WHO CARES (and directing this at JUMPSUIT JUNKIE IN PARTICULAR) WE ARE LOSING A BELOVED MEMBER DUE TO AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE TO THIS THREAD, AND WHEN SOMEONE IS TOLD BY A MODERATOR THAT THEY BELONG SOMEWHERE ESLE, AND PROVIDE THE LINK TO THE SITE, IT BECOMES A MAJOR PROBLEM. DAVID IS ONE OF THE BEST PEOPLE HERE THAT I KNOW, AND MATT, YOU AND JAK HAVE RUN HIM OFF, THIS IS A DISGRACE TO THE FORUM FOR A MODERATOR TO TAKE THESE ACTIONS, AND IF I GET BANNED FOR THIS, SO BE IT, I HAVE SPOKEN MY PEACE
xxx Eri xxx
11-19-2006, 08:31 PM
I personally do not think that this should have been said. David, is one of the active members on this site, and yet a MOD. is going to go tell him that he belongs to another site? I mean what kind of mod is that? Personally I dont think that he should be a MOD if he is going to tell people to go to another website. Dont mods usally try and keep people on their website??? Just because someone voices their opinion doesnt mean anything, Not everyone is going to have the same thoughts on a topic. If so, then God would have made us all the same. David, Should not have to leave this website because of one or two memebers. He has made so many friends on here, and all you want to do is take away his happiness? That just dont seem right. So in my personal opinion, I dont think he should be the one to leave... _ERI_
Elmomonkey1988
11-19-2006, 08:55 PM
This isn't making any sense because at one point the MOD. Jumpsuit Junkie said that he gives credit 2 her also but when volcandude aka David says the same thing he's told he belongs 2 some other site. So if he belongs 2 that site 4 giving her credit then wouldn't u belong there 2 because you gave her credit 2. Is it really a big deal that she went back 2 using his last name? I mean she had a reason 2 because she took over Graceland and what not that would just be about the best idea I would've thought of I mean you're going 2 run a place that was made famous by Elvis it would just make more sense 2 use his last name. It might not be just for money or whatever u think it is. Maybe she just wants people 2 respect that she's trying 2 keep his last name alive. Well I don't think the treatment of others' opinions' is 2 fair. I mean if it weren't for David some of the people on this site wouldn't have joined in the first place.
Awickedreigndrop
11-19-2006, 09:29 PM
I just found this out on a program somewhere... in a divorce a woman can not legally change her last name back to her maiden name if she has a child with her ex. I don't know why, so I'm thinking maybe that's part of the reasoning why she has kept the Presley name.
I just found this out on a program somewhere... in a divorce a woman can not legally change her last name back to her maiden name if she has a child with her ex. I don't know why, so I'm thinking maybe that's part of the reasoning why she has kept the Presley name.
In Illinois, when I went through it they gave her the choice to do it right there as they finalized proceedings. In thier case I don't know , but I think Elvis wanted it that way because he always had talked about a reconciliation according to a lot of the guys . Its always been my impression that after the initial shock wore off on him that it was over that a lot of the fans had harder feelings then he did, otherwise he wouldn't have spent hours on and off talking with her on the phone and thats what I've always heard happened. We'll never have a lot of these answers but its like you said really not that uncommon.
Jumpsuit Junkie
11-20-2006, 01:27 AM
I've got to ask the obvious question........... Are you related to Priscilla?
This is an Elvis forum. I think you need to go HERE (http://www.priscillapresley.com/)
Matt
This has been blown out of all proportion, the above comment was tongue in cheek as it linked to a Priscilla Presley site, if I would have added :P it would have made a big difference, perhaps I was to flippant and the comment is taken out of the context to which it was intended.
As for the comments by najial_doombringer. no-one is running anybody from this forum, it is a place where people exchange their views and that means the Moderators as well! I think you will find there are a lot of other posts in this thread that have the same thoughts as I have Just because I am a Moderator does not mean I cannot contribute.
Having read through this thread again! I cannot see any personal attacks by myself to anyone. There is debate around comments regarding the topic at hand but nothing further.
Yes I have praised Priscilla and EPE for some of the work they have done, however I do not appologise for the way I feel about Priscilla.
If I have offended anyone I apologise, when it comes to Priscilla perhaps I am not the most objective.
Everyone is welcome at TCB WORLD whatever their views are.
Matt
Donut
11-20-2006, 03:57 AM
I just found this out on a program somewhere... in a divorce a woman can not legally change her last name back to her maiden name if she has a child with her ex. I don't know why, so I'm thinking maybe that's part of the reasoning why she has kept the Presley name.
The thing is she dropped it after the divorce because according to what she told in an interview she wanted to be herself and be called Beaulieu and when Elvis died suddenly she didn?t want to be Beaulieu anymore.
So I don?t think that was the reason and least when you are living with another man for 20 years. The Presley name means $$$$$$$ and fame and she knows it quite well.
For the promoting Elvis name ( that isn?t what this thread was about ) I would say it was part of her job to keep the money rolling in, (the same money on wich she has been living off like a queen) the same goes with Graceland, she new because was advised that way that selling the house you got money but it dont last forever and that creating their personal "Disneyland" they could get a lot more proffit and it prooved to be right.
That?s the realistic side of the story and will be it weather you like Priscilla or not.
TO ANYONE WHO CARES (and directing this at JUMPSUIT JUNKIE IN PARTICULAR) WE ARE LOSING A BELOVED MEMBER DUE TO AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE TO THIS THREAD, AND WHEN SOMEONE IS TOLD BY A MODERATOR THAT THEY BELONG SOMEWHERE ESLE, AND PROVIDE THE LINK TO THE SITE, IT BECOMES A MAJOR PROBLEM. DAVID IS ONE OF THE BEST PEOPLE HERE THAT I KNOW, AND MATT, YOU AND JAK HAVE RUN HIM OFF, THIS IS A DISGRACE TO THE FORUM FOR A MODERATOR TO TAKE THESE ACTIONS, AND IF I GET BANNED FOR THIS, SO BE IT, I HAVE SPOKEN MY PEACE
Youre joking right?Look back at my posts on this thread.There is nothing in my posts or any others that would run anybody off.Isnt the board a place to exchange opinions?So what if people differ on something.People here shouldnt be so sensitive.The board should be entertaining and informative which I think it is.Anybody who could get their feelings hurt by comments on a messageboard needs to step back and re evaluate their priorities.I think any heated discussion is great as long as no insults are directed at anyone.
Jak
ForeverTheKing
11-20-2006, 05:40 AM
To me someone is taking the discussion TOO SERIOUSLY!:lol:
Please, a little of sense of humor! :lmfao:
I think nobody here asked someone else to leave the forum...it was just a joke!
It's normal to have different opinions and this is natural especially when we talk about Priscilla...you can love her, applaude her but there are many people who see her from another point of view (like me :P ).
The most important thing is to respect other opinions and take the thread as a moment of pure discussion...nobody here wants to insult someone else...this is the reason why I love TCB WORLD!(y) :lol:
Diane
11-20-2006, 05:57 AM
I agree with ForeverTheKing. Matt and Jak have said nothing wrong. Priscilla's name brings out some pretty heated discussions but that's all part of the game on this board as long as there are no personal attacks.
Some of us see her as playing a very active part in keeping Elvis' memory alive, some of us see her as sitting back and raking in the $$$$ for making a few personal appearances here and there. Regardless of each person's opinion of her, we manage to stay a family at TCB - And That's The Way It Is!:D
I agree with ForeverTheKing. Matt and Jak have said nothing wrong. Priscilla's name brings out some pretty heated discussions but that's all part of the game on this board as long as there are no personal attacks.
Some of us see her as playing a very active part in keeping Elvis' memory alive, some of us see her as sitting back and raking in the $$$$ for making a few personal appearances here and there. Regardless of each person's opinion of her, we manage to stay a family at TCB - And That's The Way It Is!:D
Diane
Well said.People can strongly disagree and still be friends through Elvis.
Jak
ForeverTheKing
11-20-2006, 06:06 AM
I agree with ForeverTheKing. Matt and Jak have said nothing wrong. Priscilla's name brings out some pretty heated discussions but that's all part of the game on this board as long as there are no personal attacks.
Some of us see her as playing a very active part in keeping Elvis' memory alive, some of us see her as sitting back and raking in the $$$$ for making a few personal appearances here and there. Regardless of each person's opinion of her, we manage to stay a family at TCB - And That's The Way It Is!:D
Well said Diane! (y) :clap:
The thing is she dropped it after the divorce because according to what she told in an interview she wanted to be herself and be called Beaulieu and when Elvis died suddenly she didn?t want to be Beaulieu anymore.
So I don?t think that was the reason and least when you are living with another man for 20 years. The Presley name means $$$$$$$ and fame and she knows it quite well.
For the promoting Elvis name ( that isn?t what this thread was about ) I would say it was part of her job to keep the money rolling in, (the same money on wich she has been living off like a queen) the same goes with Graceland, she new because was advised that way that selling the house you got money but it dont last forever and that creating their personal "Disneyland" they could get a lot more proffit and it prooved to be right.
That?s the realistic side of the story and will be it weather you like Priscilla or not.
TOTALLY AGREE 100 % WITH THIS POST
Donut you have hit the nail right on the head .........WELL DONE :clap: :clap:
Donut
11-20-2006, 07:42 AM
I agree with ForeverTheKing. Matt and Jak have said nothing wrong. Priscilla's name brings out some pretty heated discussions but that's all part of the game on this board as long as there are no personal attacks.
Some of us see her as playing a very active part in keeping Elvis' memory alive, some of us see her as sitting back and raking in the $$$$ for making a few personal appearances here and there. Regardless of each person's opinion of her, we manage to stay a family at TCB - And That's The Way It Is!:D
I agree with you too and I think some people tend to take opinions personally when a forum is for having fun and discuss things with others connected with the same intersts.
Elmomonkey1988
11-20-2006, 09:32 AM
In response to the previous comments I state only this. Yes, Elvis' voice and talent have kept him popular over the years, but I think it's people like Priscilla, Lisa Marie, the folks at EPE and Graceland who deserve the credit now for Elvis remaining as big as he is, nearly 30 years later. I'm as loyal as any fan, (and no, I sleep fine), but facts are facts. With Elvis gone, he can't exactly promote himself anymore, so I give lots of credit to Priscilla. That's why I applaud her.:clap:
I've got to ask the obvious question........... Are you related to Priscilla?
This is an Elvis forum. I think you need to go HERE (http://www.priscillapresley.com/)
Matt
This is what we are talking about... you specifically told volcandude... aka David that he belongs to www.priscillapresley.com and that's basically telling him that he is not welcome here... If you took the time 2 really read through the Forum you would've seen the same thing that we saw and that is that the Moderator had a different view then one of the members and basically told that member that he don't belong on this site and that he belongs on another site. ~!~CaSs~!~
vulcandude
11-20-2006, 09:45 AM
This is what we are talking about... you specifically told volcandude... aka David that he belongs to www.priscillapresley.com and that's basically telling him that he is not welcome here... If you took the time 2 really read through the Forum you would've seen the same thing that we saw and that is that the Moderator had a different view then one of the members and basically told that member that he don't belong on this site and that he belongs on another site. ~!~CaSs~!~Thank you Cass. And to those who think I'm being over-sensitive on the subject, I'm not. I don't care if others don't share my opinion when it comes to Priscilla. What I do care about is the fact that Jumpsuit Junkie has made me feel unwelcome, unliked, and insulted because he said I belong on Priscilla's site, not here. So, because he is a moderator, I am taking leave here. I do not wish to feel unwelcome by anyone, and so, to those of you who are my friends here, please stay in touch via e-mail. (This means you Dovey, Tilly, Cilla, Kenny, Erin, Cass, Rick, Patrick, Steve, Paul, etc.) I will miss everyone, but I feel before I say anything in anger because Jumpsuit Junkie is a moderator, I'd rather leave than get booted or banned. I'LL REMEMBER YOU GUYS ALWAYS.......
-David (vulcandude)
presley
11-20-2006, 09:47 AM
It not fair to be told to go some where else or kicked off, becasue somebody didn't like what they are saying. I just got kicked off one of the forums, l was on because of people who take things to personal, so please lets just get along.
Jumpsuit Junkie
11-20-2006, 10:19 AM
I am closing this threaed until I have spoken to David, I have appologised earlier in the thread, but the thread now seems to be jumping to conclusions, NOBODY has been asked to leave TCB World.
I would kindly ask that this matter be dealt with in private so the issues can be resolved.
Matt
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