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graceland123
05-24-2006, 11:37 AM
i listened to her album last night but i had to turn it off it was shite
i wish i could get my money back
i wish someone would tell her that she can t sing
maybe you cant be objective when you hear your own voice
but jesus it doesnt do the presley name any favours
it sounds like the cats chorus very out of tune
you also need a blooody translator
i wish the girl well but somebody needs to do some straight talking instead of kissing her ***
the sad part is she thinks shes good
p..s does any one know that lisa was a lesbo
shes admitted it
what would elvis think about his little girl being a lesbian ?
Terry the Ted
05-24-2006, 01:27 PM
:supriced: whoa boy!! looks like someone's lost a grand and found a penny!! :hmm:
lighten up a bit, she's not that bad, sure she'll never be in Elvis' league
but she can sing. Elvis would have been wound up about the lesbian thing,
but at the end of the day it's her decision, might not be everyone's thing
but Lisa is a big girl now!! ;)
ForeverTheKing
05-24-2006, 01:48 PM
:supriced: whoa boy!! looks like someone's lost a grand and found a penny!! :hmm:
lighten up a bit, she's not that bad, sure she'll never be in Elvis' league
but she can sing. Elvis would have been wound up about the lesbian thing,
but at the end of the day it's her decision, might not be everyone's thing
but Lisa is a big girl now!! ;)
Totally agree!
I haven't listened a lot...just few songs but she's not bad..she has her style in singing.
Of course she's not talented (vocally) as her dad but you can't make a comparison...Elvis is Elvis.
About the other aspect...well...it's the first time I hear something like this...are you sure it's true? Anyway...she's a woman and she can decide on her own...and Elvis...well..he's dead so I can't say anything about his thoughts...:lol:
Unchained Melody
05-24-2006, 02:46 PM
I agree with you 2, alot of people do like her music, I hate it when Elvis fans listen to her 1 time and expect it to be somehing like Elvis' and its completeley different. Different type of music, I don't really care for it but she Can sing;) .
ComeBackChick
05-24-2006, 02:55 PM
She is a great songwriter, writes her own material, something her father never did, I love her low husky voice.
(So what if she had a thing with a girl in the past? Even if she was a lesbian, Elvis never had a problem with gay people, as I know of!)
I happen to like her music, and I'm sure her sexual orientation is no one's business except her own.
amzietamzie
05-24-2006, 03:29 PM
I think it's amazing that she wrote the songs by herself... she is very very talented! Nobody Noticed It is a great song and ever so moving... And her voice is very unusual... I guess not to everyone's taste, that's life after all, but I like it and many others do. People can't expect her to be like Elvis and it's unfair for her to be compared with him. She's her own person.
And what's her sexual orientation got to do with anything? There's nothing wrong with it and, as Mez said ever so well, it's her business, her life and only concerns her. I don't know what Elvis would think, no one does, but I doubt he would have a problem with it... surely he would only want her to be happy.
She is a great songwriter, writes her own material, something her father never did, I love her low husky voice.
(So what if she had a thing with a girl in the past? Even if she was a lesbian, Elvis never had a problem with gay people, as I know of!)
I don't particularly like her singing but I think she's written some interesting songs. I don't have anything against her, its not really my kind of music so its not for me. I'm fine with that..
The other topic, I've absolutly heard one way or another and if you've read a few books several of his boys say how he felt on the topic for whatever thats worth, I'm sure someone here has read it to . I don't really care if he did or didn't, I don't have a problem with them. Lisa isn't though .
Originally Posted by amzietamzie
I think it's amazing that she wrote the songs by herself... she is very very talented! Nobody Noticed It is a great song and ever so moving... And her voice is very unusual..
I think that one was a good song, I think Lights out was a good song. I forget the other one but she had one other that I thought was lyricly interesting. I was given both the first two CDs by someone that only wanted two songs from them, its a interesting side bar to Elvis history that his kid who doesn't have to, chose to write and preform on her own. I kinda admire she had the guts to put it out there knowing that we're all going to voice an opinion and some of them aren't going to be nice
graceland123
05-24-2006, 05:52 PM
I think it's amazing that she wrote the songs by herself... she is very very talented! Nobody Noticed It is a great song and ever so moving... And her voice is very unusual... I guess not to everyone's taste, that's life after all, but I like it and many others do. People can't expect her to be like Elvis and it's unfair for her to be compared with him. She's her own person.
And what's her sexual orientation got to do with anything? There's nothing wrong with it and, as Mez said ever so well, it's her business, her life and only concerns her. I don't know what Elvis would think, no one does, but I doubt he would have a problem with it... surely he would only want her to be happy.who compared her to him not me chuck
im just rating her as a singer
It hasn't do with Elvis. (Afterall you can't compare two persons), but Lisa's voice is so mechanical. Maybe she can sing (I'm sure she had singing lessons), but not what she's singing now. Shania twain or Anastasia sings better life, I'm sure about that. And Elvis wrote a few songs himself by the way that were great. I'm sure if he could have wrote songs he wanted they would have been great and not just because he was Elvis. It's for the first that I heard she's lesbian. I don't care. It's her feeling and her life and there's nothing wrong about that.
Christel (TCE)
Diane
05-25-2006, 09:00 AM
To be sure Lisa's voice can't be compared to her father's, but in comparison to a lot of artists out there in musicland I think she holds her own.
As for the other subject brought up, I think some people are jumping the gun when she's considered a lesbian for having had a relationship with another woman in the past.
graceland123
05-25-2006, 09:42 AM
To be sure Lisa's voice can't be compared to her father's, but in comparison to a lot of artists out there in musicland I think she holds her own.
As for the other subject brought up, I think some people are jumping the gun when she's considered a lesbian for having had a relationship with another woman in the past.so what do you call it then ?
are you homophobic?
why does her sexuality (or anyone elses for that matter) have to be labelled as anything?
Cherokee
05-25-2006, 01:24 PM
i listened to her album last night but i had to turn it off it was shite
i wish i could get my money back
i wish someone would tell her that she can t sing
maybe you cant be objective when you hear your own voice
but jesus it doesnt do the presley name any favours
it sounds like the cats chorus very out of tune
you also need a blooody translator
i wish the girl well but somebody needs to do some straight talking instead of kissing her ***
the sad part is she thinks shes good
p..s does any one know that lisa was a lesbo
shes admitted it
what would elvis think about his little girl being a lesbian ?
I totally agree with the part about Lisa's "singing"> she can't (that is CAN NOT) sing if her life depended on it. I've said it many times before that on all live appearances that I've seen of her on TV or the internet she has always - ALWAYS - sung out of key. Some of the most embarrassing "performances" were Top of the Pops and Oprah. And no> saying that she can't sing does not automatically mean we who say so compare her with her father, or with any other professional singer for that matter. Most "ordinary" people I know sing better, yes ME included. I do believe she only got her recording deal because of who she is and maybe, just maybe, also because the folks at the record label liked her lyrics. I'm not impressed by either, but mostly not by her lack of singing talent.
I have said before: she should have put her lyrics down in a book, called it poetry and thus have her say. Now she's only made an *** of herself. Outside from her own fan forum and those Elvis fans who (which is incredible to me) claim she "clearly inherited her daddy's talent":blink: I have never heard anybody with an ounce of understanding of what makes a good singer/musician claim she was good.
As for her sexuality> I don't care and it's none of our business. But then> her appearances on Howard Stern and making certain comments cause her to sort of become fair game to such theories/discussions.
Dovey
05-25-2006, 01:51 PM
Well just my opinion, but for sure she can not sing!!!!
I can't even understand the words to her songs. A friend of
mine was at the Daytona 500 when she sang there and she
said it was really terrible and the people around her said
the only thing that she had in common with her dad was
the name Presley. She said she was embarrassed for
the poor girl. (People were laughing at her):doh:
Who knows maybe someday she will get a hit song but for
now.... she truly is not a singer at all..Kelly Pickler is 100
times the singer Lisa is and she did not make it on American
Idol. (But then her last name is Pickler) :'(
Sorry but since this is for everybody's opinion... that is
my honest opinion. Dovey
[B][I][COLOR=#ff00ff]Who knows maybe someday she will get a hit song but for
now.... she truly is not a singer at all..Kelly Pickler is 100
times the singer Lisa is and she did not make it on American
Idol. (But then her last name is Pickler) :'(
Sorry but since this is for everybody's opinion... that is
my honest opinion. Dovey
I think she already did have a hit in Lights out. Most bands and singers would be happy with how that whole first CD sold. It went Gold and for a non mainstream singer thats pretty good.
graceland123
05-25-2006, 02:18 PM
I think she already did have a hit in Lights out. Most bands and singers would be happy with how that whole first CD sold. It went Gold and for a non mainstream singer thats pretty good.as for being asked about being a homophobic i am only raising a subject that was in the media not too long ago so i am entitled to talk about it
it was all over the magazines afterall so they must be homophobes
like cherokee said she went on a radio show and talked about it so it ceases to be that private
i havent voiced an opinion either way i included it in a discussion about her just like she herself did
so how does that imply im homophobic
i only wanted peoples thoughtts on how elvis would have reacted
she can go deep sea diving every day of the week if it makes her happy
as for her music me thinks thee album did well because the elvis fans bought them in the majority and i can only speeak for my self and my elvis friends and they and my self didnt rate it 1 bit
and im not comparing her to her father when i say that im comparing her to todays singers and she doesnt come close to people like celine dion, whittney houston,madonna ,katie melua etc
my daughters all listen to these and i know therre music quite well and she is nowhere in their leaguee
ok she may write the songs but so do most of the popettes of today thats where the big bucks are and it s considered normal that nearly everyone does write there own stuff
but lets not say well elvis didnt write his songs my god that is comparing her to him
most people didn t write there own stuff in the 50s etc etc
people like eddie cochran and buddy holly(a couple of my favourittes from my younger days )
were considereed pioneers back then because it was rare that singers wrote their own songs
i think she possibly may be a good songwriter (lisamarie) but there has to be more there has to be the voice but the most important facet of the business as elvis knew only too well was the live stage performancce and regrettfully she doesnt have any charisma or interraction with her audience onstage
1 clasic example on an interview she did when she was asked what her stage performance was going to have becuase her father knew how to hold an audience and talk to an audience
and she replied soemthing like well we have lights
yeah right
Diane
05-25-2006, 05:01 PM
In answer to Graceland 123, some adolescents have experimented with those of their own sex. girls and boys at one time but did not become homosexuals. Not surprising with Lisa considering the mix-up childhood she had. When she is known to be living with another woman instead of a man, I'll believe it. And no, I'm not speaking from experience.........
In answer to Graceland 123, some adolescents have experimented with those of their own sex. girls and boys at one time but did not become homosexuals. Not surprising with Lisa considering the mix-up childhood she had. When she is known to be living with another woman instead of a man, I'll believe it. And no, I'm not speaking from experience.........
I almost feel like we should be adding the old Seinfeld line from the show "the outing" where a reporter thought George and Jerry were Gay, and they got worked up , denied it and said
"Not that there's anything wrong with that" . Anyone thats seen the show will probably remember the bit.
What can I say it just popped in my head:D
graceland123
05-25-2006, 05:27 PM
im totally lost with you lot
since when diane does having a mixed up childhood make you gay?
she went on a show and admitted she had lesbian sex with someone at boarding school
so how can you say you dont believe it if it came from her own mouth
i have the recording
whether she lived with them or not what bloody differenece does it make
if i go out and gang bang 20 men next week but i dont live with them does that mean im not homosexual
i agree jdd diane went out of her way defending and then said not that im talking from experience
franny
05-25-2006, 06:00 PM
I don't think she can sing, she just doesn't have any style, just my opinion...
I found this clip of Lights Out for those who haven't seen it http://www.zippyvideos.com/7537420191241246/lightsout/
I do like this clip of Don't Cry Daddy...only because Elvis is in it and I like the words...otherwise, Lisa should stick to songwriting, not singing...:)
http://www.zippyvideos.com/8546840321755996/elvis_and_lisa_1/
franny
patricia
05-25-2006, 06:16 PM
I don`t care for this person I`m afraid.
I know she is Elvis`s daughter but she is a very rude young lady.
The sexuality is a personal matter but she should not have said what she did.
She must keep in mind her surname and her father`s fans.
Unfortunately I heard that disgusting interview and at her age I was shocked at her remarks such as she used to play with herself when she was a child with a dolls foot. She talked about giving blow jobs at 13 and having under age sex.
She did indeed tell of lesbian sex as well.
I find it very difficult to reconcile her as being Elvis`s daughter as they are worlds apart.
Elvis would have never talked like that in public and I honestly believe he would be disgusted.
I don`t think she has any shame I`m afraid. If she was my daughter I`d give her such a slapping and I`m afraid thats what shes been short of.
Menwithbrokenhearts
05-25-2006, 11:13 PM
I agree about the discipline thing. I don't think she ever established any normal set of rules/values to live by and certainly did not have any good examples around her. I think her distinctions between what is right/wrong or appropriate/ not are blurred and grey.
I think Elvis was the most positive example, even if he was overindulgent, and maybe Vernon and his mother. But she talks of having seen the MM guys philandering around the house and elsewhere with other women, and all the partying. Priscilla talks of always having to be the disciplinarian but she was dragging Lisa off to live with other men or having them there in the house with her and if you have seen any of the pictures of her with some of those men, with Lisa there, the clothes, postures etcc. seem very sexual, as in the relationships were very "open" with Lisa around. Not sure if this is true, just looks like it. Then she sends her to boarding school with no supervision.
She certainly is different than her father and I believe, had Elvis lived, she would be different too. I'm sure his good qualities would have rubbed off on her with time, no matter how much Priscilla may have tried to undo it. But it was all in Priscilla's hands and she took a young impressionable child who just lost her father and screwed it up because her "career" took off and she didn't have time.When Lisa needed her mother the most, she lost her too.
So, people sometimes turn out this way that basically have to raise themselves. Especially those that have issues at an early age and get no help. I feel sorry for her. I would not want to be in her shoes.
As far as her singing. I like the cds. She sounds allright on them, and some of the songs she wrote are pretty good. As far as performing live, I'll just say that it is hard for her to stay on key, or hold an audience. I've even seen clips of her trying to change octaves mid song to hit notes and it is horrible. It comes across as a bad imitation of her dad, because she puts in the occasional leg wiggle or sneer. Should I give her credit for trying and for the song writing, probably. It also might slightly be another case of overindulgence she has grown so accustomed to.
im totally lost with you lot
since when diane does having a mixed up childhood make you gay?
she went on a show and admitted she had lesbian sex with someone at boarding school
so how can you say you dont believe it if it came from her own mouth
i have the recording
whether she lived with them or not what bloody differenece does it make
if i go out and gang bang 20 men next week but i dont live with them does that mean im not homosexual
i agree jdd diane went out of her way defending and then said not that im talking from experience
having sex with someone of the same sex, does not automatically make you gay- sexuality is not as black and white as you seem to think.
ComeBackChick
05-26-2006, 05:38 AM
I almost feel like we should be adding the old Seinfeld line from the show "the outing" where a reporter thought George and Jerry were Gay, and they got worked up , denied it and said "Not that there's anything wrong with that".
Remember that! That was hilarious!!!! :lmfao:
she can go deep sea diving every day of the week if it makes her happy
Is this slang for getting it on with a girl, is this what you kids call it these days?:hmm:
Its not that I don't have any comments or criticism towards her, but when the mood gets so anti-Lisa sometimes I don't even want to vent that, to not give "bashers" any more amunition.
I do think maybe she thinks it will come easy to her, and she does not need to rehearse so much, maybe she did take the whole performing thing too lightly, you can not just stand there and deliver your lines, there has to be an interaction with the audience. But she was thrown into the frying pan because of her last name. She didn't have a chance to build it up slowly. As a singer I think she is good enough, as a songwriter she is very original and personal, but she still lacks as a live performer.
Also I do like her "I don't give a sh*t" attitude, but I am like: Please don't try this at home (or at work!)! Cause you don't have an inheritance of a gazillion dollars behind you, she can do or say whatever she wants, she will never have money worries. And thats a blessing AND a curse at the same time.
Diane
05-26-2006, 07:22 AM
Thanks so much Men With Broken Hearts and Mez. You clarified what I was trying to say. Although I do feel sorry for Lisa and she doesn't have a good example to follow, there is no excuse for her bad behavior. She's understandably very immature and I wonder if half of what she says is for shock value.
I'm just tired of all the Elvis bashing over the years and now his daughter, although I'm sorely tempted myself when it comes to Priscilla. End of subject for me..
Cherokee
05-26-2006, 07:40 AM
I do think maybe she thinks it will come easy to her, and she does not need to rehearse so much, maybe she did take the whole performing thing too lightly, you can not just stand there and deliver your lines, there has to be an interaction with the audience. But she was thrown into the frying pan because of her last name. She didn't have a chance to build it up slowly. As a singer I think she is good enough, as a songwriter she is very original and personal, but she still lacks as a live performer.
I'm sorry, but I HAVE to disagree with this. When her first album came out, she went overboard to tell everybody she'd been singing (be it in her room, at private parties etc.) for ages, and that she'd been seriously dabbling with the idea of having a music career since she was 22. Even if she didn't aspire to start off an active music career until over a decade after that, she could have used that time to fine tune her instrument, her voice, by taking vocal lessons. She claims now that she has had vocal lessons, but if she paid to get to the level she's at now, she's been seriously snowed!:blink:
Dovey
05-26-2006, 10:13 AM
Thanks for posting the links Franny... :D Her music is not played around here as you must of guessed.. so thanks:D
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Patricia.... pretty interesting thoughts there and I agree!!
With me I am a Elvis fan 100% and really do not think talent is inherited therefore I guess I do not pay much attention to what she is doing so I do not compare her to her dad or anybody else.
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Menwithbrokenhearts ...
You put a lot of thought into your post and it is very, very good. :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy I hope someday you do decide to write that book because I for one would want to buy and read it. You write with a lot of thought and just plain common sence. (Have to admire that!!) (y) (y)
Dovey ;)
Menwithbrokenhearts
05-26-2006, 01:28 PM
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Menwithbrokenhearts ...
You put a lot of thought into your post and it is very, very good. :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy I hope someday you do decide to write that book because I for one would want to buy and read it. You write with a lot of thought and just plain common sence. (Have to admire that!!) (y) (y)
Dovey ;)
Thanks Dovey. But really, I was just rambling...... Sometimes I get carried away!:blush:
Thanks Dovey. But really, I was just rambling...... Sometimes I get carried away!:blush:
I think we all do, thats why we're here.
franny
05-26-2006, 05:47 PM
[B][I][COLOR=magenta]Thanks for posting the links Franny... :D Her music is not played around here as you must of guessed.. so thanks:D
You're welcome, Dovey...Yes, I did notice her music wasn't played here...although, there are worse singers out there..:lmfao:...
franny
I am quite new to this forum and what has surprised me a lot is how common the bitterness is towards Priscilla and Lisa Marie. They can?t seem to do anything right... We are are entitled to our own opinons, of course, - I am just amazed about how much feelings they seem to bring up.
In my opinon Lisa does have a talent. But she started her singing career late in life, and was of course famouse at once because of her name. She has inherited her father?s carisma and she is a deep woman who speaks her mind, no matter what people expect of her. And what many expect is her to be a traditional southern woman, cute and female, like the way Elvis wanted women to appear. Well, Lisa is a rebelion, just like her dad. She is beautiful in the same way Elvis was, and she is a modern woman with her own mind. She writes her lyrics and music and sings her music and has her own fans (and some of her dad?s).
About her being lesbian, I think it?s really up to her what she prefers... But I heard her state in an interview that so was not the case. She once tried it as a teenager, that?s it. After that she has always been together with men - married several times, and has two children.
srj1967
04-22-2007, 05:09 AM
Well, Lisa is a rebelion, just like her dad. She is beautiful in the same way Elvis was...
Just like her dad? You must be kidding! Elvis never tried to be a rebel, not even with his music. He just did what he did, and the "rebel" tag was thrust upon him. Lisa Marie's a try-hard wannabe: not in comparison with Elvis, but with today's artists. She wants to be Pink, but has neither the musically-based talent nor the political knowledge to do it. And what's she got to rebel against? If I hear her rave about how her childhood was again, I'll scream.
As for your second point: beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I think the Presley-Beaulieu genes skipped a generation with Lisa Marie. However, Lisa's daughter Danielle is a stunner. But Lisa? Ugh!
Elvis was a rebelion in many ways: his way of singing was new. The way he dressed. The way he moved on stage! A white man liking black music.
And as I say, we are all right to have our own opinon. It?s just a discussion. You think she is ugly, - to me she is beautiful. She has her father?s looks.
0349054
04-22-2007, 06:07 AM
All anyone can do is guess at Elvis would think or would say.
Elvis didn't like gays, he didnt like the feminist movement and he wasnt liberal.
As for Lisa's singing, thats a matter of opinion.
As for her being a lesbian, so what?
There are plenty of gay men and lesbian women in the world and it makes no difference. It's that persons choice and if they are happy why should anyone else be concerned.
It's none of my business what sexual orientation Lisa is .
I've known a few gay people & their sexual preference makes them neither good nor bad.
Most people I know do not talk about their sex life ; as it's private .
Lisa was being interviewed by Stern, a well known "shock jock". :rolleyes:
She just "did it to him " before he "could do it to her" . ;)
To be serious though.....many children DO experiment at a young age . Back "in the day"....it was called "playing doctor." ;)
Can't say I enjoy her singing , but whoever does, it's ok by me ......:)
Elvis_Priestly
04-22-2007, 09:44 AM
It mustn't be easy for her. Having your father die when you're nine can't be easy. Having him die and he be Elvis and his image and music being so all pervasive as his is must be harder. Having the whole world wait gleefully for you to make the same sort of mistakes he might have must, yes, be even harder.
She has the money for sure, but [cliché alert!] "money don't bring happiness" - if it did she and Michael Jackson/Nicholas Cage should have been one of the happiest couple(s) in a long time.
As for the way she talked on that ocassion: I didn't know what "be*ver" or "giving he*d" meant until I was 17 and heard Elvis say it (can't remember now was it in Elvis on Tour or This is Elvis?) And whether she is gay/straight/bi is up to her/her genes/her upbringing whichever "cause" is the favoured one these days - whatever she is doesn't detract from her being just like us a person with the capacity to love and/or be hurt.
I'm an Elvis fan, Lisa-Marie is his daughter and I would give her the same courtesy I'd give to any other person - and yeah it would be cool to meet her one day, principally because she's Elvis' daughter, and that brings me straight back to the beginning of this post - that can't be easy.
desiree
04-22-2007, 10:12 AM
I can't help thinking what is this fuss all about? Is it her music or her sexuality?? I like her music and yes, I think she can sing and has her own cool style. I don't give a s**t is she lesbian or not! It has nothing to do with the music! And, certainly we aren't the ones to say what Elvis would think about her sexuality. It doesn't matter. Even if Elvis was against it, her being a lesbian, what differences would it make? It wouldn't change my opinion on her or her music anyway! So, way to go Lisa(y)
0349054
04-22-2007, 10:32 AM
I can't help thinking what is this fuss all about? Is it her music or her sexuality?? I like her music and yes, I think she can sing and has her own cool style. I don't give a s**t is she lesbian or not! It has nothing to do with the music! And, certainly we aren't the ones to say what Elvis would think about her sexuality. It doesn't matter. Even if Elvis was against it, her being a lesbian, what differences would it make? It wouldn't change my opinion on her or her music anyway! So, way to go Lisa(y)
Well said.
Although no doubt a few narrow minded people will disagree with people being lesbian or gay - whether that person be Lisa-Marie or anyone else.
I must say; I loved it when she started "going off" on the press etc.
It's no ones business but hers what she does or doesn't do.
The girl is NOT her father !! She's entitled to her own life ....so, as she pretty much tells everyone F*** off !! Reminded me of Desert Storm...;)
I think it would be pure hell to be Lisa. She loves her dad; but to be constantly compared to him.....not cool !!
As I've said; I don't like her music; but I defend her right to make it on her own. Love her or leave her alone .....(y)
elvisfan4ever
04-22-2007, 11:03 AM
eh......changed my mind about lisa..its time we stop putting her down -...she wants to sing let her be.let her live her life as she pleases..if elvis was alive i would challenge u peeps the bashers.. to step up to elvis face to face and tell him his daughter s**ks..u would end up like those 3 dope heads in vegas in 73 who came onstage to challenge elvis--and elvis took care of them without his bodyguards..:lmfao: u bashers would end up the same way:lmfao: --its elvis daughter..so finally i will copy elvis_priestly words(y) -as im not much when it comes to elaborate speeches:lmfao: ***I'm an Elvis fan, Lisa-Marie is his daughter and I would give her the same courtesy I'd give to any other person ****and yeah i would like to meet her also(y) (y) :king: let her live her life and stop comparing her to her dad..thats not right:notworthy ~~peace
Burning_Love
04-22-2007, 01:10 PM
She's No Elvis i'll give you that. BUT she has her own stlye of music like Elvis did. I am sure Elvis is very proud of her and i think she has done well but still, people only like her because she's 'Elvis' one and only daughter'. I don't personally like her but like i said before she has her own style which is great ! :king:
desiree
04-22-2007, 01:32 PM
Well said.
Although no doubt a few narrow minded people will disagree with people being lesbian or gay - whether that person be Lisa-Marie or anyone else.
Thank you! It's nice to know you agree(y)
rachel162cl
04-23-2007, 06:46 PM
p..s does any one know that lisa was a lesbo
shes admitted it
what would elvis think about his little girl being a lesbian ?
Lisa never said she was a lesbian ,she did admitted that she has had with woman when she was a tennager and I'm study psychologist and thats not make you a lesbian in fact in that age is normal to experiment new things and if she was a lesbian is her problem not our.
And i like the way she sings , and i hate the fact that people compare her with Elvis cause is just not right she is her own person and i can't imagine how hard must be her .
I only know that elvis love her more that anything in his life and that she loves him too
TCBnAflash
04-23-2007, 06:55 PM
I believe you can't try to listen to LMP and try to hear Elvis come from her.
I've always, she must've got her singing voice from her mother.
I came real close to paying full price for her CD when my girlfriend sudgested,"you better listen to it first on the sampler headphones"
So I did and was glad I didn't buy it. I found it two days later in the used section, with 17 other copies for $2.99, so I had only three dollars to lose then. I didnt feel so bad. I'll be honest, I can't listen to it without thinking," this came from Elvis?"
presley
04-23-2007, 07:23 PM
I don't have a problem with Lisa's singing. It's nice she has a own style and not copying her fathers. I like her lyrics in the songs she writes, she has seen enough and won't be pushed around and for that l gave her the thumbs up!!!!!!
Diane
04-23-2007, 07:33 PM
(y) (y) Presley......Diane
srj1967
04-23-2007, 10:48 PM
Singing talent cannot possibly be genetically inherited. I may have failed biology at school, but I am pretty sure there's no "music" gene!!
Singing is a skill. You either have the basic ability to do it in tune (which can be trained, just like any other skill) or you don't. So the debate about whether she got her voice from Elvis or not is moot.
srj1967
04-23-2007, 10:54 PM
if elvis was alive i would challenge u peeps the bashers.. to step up to elvis face to face and tell him his daughter s**ks..u would end up like those 3 dope heads in vegas in 73 who came onstage to challenge elvis--and elvis took care of them without his bodyguards...
Firstly, they weren't dope heads at all; they may have been slightly drunk and were just boisterous.
Secondly, the bodyguards were right there just as much as Elvis. He exaggerated the story over the years until it was him versus a group of 28 roughnecks armed with machine guns and machetes. And they weren't "mob connected" either as the story goes. They were just silly guys with time on their hands.
Thirdly, as a martial artist of 20 years, I'm confident I could've taken Elvis! And as for him not liking what we say about his daughter ... sorry, but too bad. He's no longer here, unfortunately, and we can say what we like.
TCBnAflash
04-23-2007, 11:15 PM
Lisa does have good lyrics and her own style, although at times it sounds like she impersonating Cher.
I also love the way she won't take any crap from anyone. That's the Presley in her but I have to hold on to the Cilla in her, is her singing voice.
elvisfan4ever
04-24-2007, 09:49 AM
Firstly, they weren't dope heads at all; they may have been slightly drunk and were just boisterous.
Secondly, the bodyguards were right there just as much as Elvis. He exaggerated the story over the years until it was him versus a group of 28 roughnecks armed with machine guns and machetes. And they weren't "mob connected" either as the story goes. They were just silly guys with time on their hands.
Thirdly, as a martial artist of 20 years, I'm confident I could've taken Elvis! And as for him not liking what we say about his daughter ... sorry, but too bad. He's no longer here, unfortunately, and we can say what we like.hi yeah well we all know by reading all ur previous posts about lisa in the forum u despise her:lmfao: oh well....nothing we can do there..congratulations on ur 20 years of martial arts-if you really are into martial arts-u and elvis would of been great friends as u know -martial arts was one of elvis passion---but yeah i would say what happended in vegas in 73 those 3 guys were indeed dope heads to go onstage -even if they were stoned outta there minds-elvis showed them what happens when u mess with the tiger man:lmfao: :lmfao: way to go elvis:lmfao: :lmfao: how i wish there would be some footage of elvis beating up these dope heads :lmfao: :lmfao: well peace to u ~~~~~~Joe:king:
srj1967
04-24-2007, 10:28 AM
You do like to dream, don't you? Next, you will be on stage.
No, AFriend, I've never dreamed of being on stage, especially as Elvis or anything even approaching him.
I am simply stating fact as a martial artist for 20 years. By '73, Elvis was just going through the motions of being a martial artist, as we have discussed on another thread.
I am saying, without any hubris whatsoever, that I could have taken Elvis by this stage in his martial-arts life. Actually, I'll qualify that by saying it is very likely I could have, based on what I have seen of his martial arts moves at that time. Part of martial arts is being able to size up one's opponent. And no, I'm not saying I could beat anyone and everyone else either, or even a majority of people. Just Elvis at 38 years of age.
Just because he was Elvis Presley doesn't mean he was the best at everything he did ... And nor am I saying I'm the best at things I do.
But back to Lisa Marie ...
srj1967
04-24-2007, 10:32 AM
hi yeah well we all know by reading all ur previous posts about lisa in the forum u despise her
Actually, no, I don't despise Lisa Marie at all. I usually try to avoid her if she's in the news. I dislike her and Priscilla. The only person in the public eye that I despise is President George Dubya Bush, but that's a whole other kettle of fish ...
elvisfan4ever
04-24-2007, 11:19 AM
No, AFriend, I've never dreamed of being on stage, especially as Elvis or anything even approaching him.
I am simply stating fact as a martial artist for 20 years. By '73, Elvis was just going through the motions of being a martial artist, as we have discussed on another thread.
I am saying, without any hubris whatsoever, that I could have taken Elvis by this stage in his martial-arts life. Actually, I'll qualify that by saying it is very likely I could have, based on what I have seen of his martial arts moves at that time. Part of martial arts is being able to size up one's opponent. And no, I'm not saying I could beat anyone and everyone else either, or even a majority of people. Just Elvis at 38 years of age.
Just because he was Elvis Presley doesn't mean he was the best at everything he did ... And nor am I saying I'm the best at things I do.
But back to Lisa Marie ...well i would not agree with u when u say **By '73, Elvis was just going through the motions of being a martial artist**i mean he didint have to prove nothing dont u think elvis being 8 dan black belt is good enough--still its good u think positive in life -ur confident thinking u could of taken elvis-based on what u have seen in footage of him--i havent seen what u can do as a martial artist--post up some foootge of youself doin karate-back up what u say--either way still my money would be on elvis over you--sure elvis wasint the all time greatest martial artist --but im pretty sure u would lose the fight no way u would beAt the tiger man:lmfao: ~~never hurts to dream does it~~~yeah elvis in his later years 77 he may have been just goin through the motions on stage he was tired not well ..we can forgive him --but when it came to martial arts elvis never went through the motions pretending--he was serious vicious deadly -agressive.awesome. the tiger man:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: ~~~way to go elvis (y) ~~~~peace
srj1967
04-24-2007, 12:09 PM
i mean he didint have to prove nothing dont u think elvis being 8 dan black belt is good enough
The last two "dans" Elvis received were largely ceremonial, and nobody involved in the martial arts world took them seriously. Google Bill "Superfoot" Wallace for some extra info. Again, as we have discussed on another thread, these so-called degrees were given to Elvis purely because he was Elvis. Only a full-time martial artist - or, at the very least, someone who is willing to take a lot of time out of their lives to do it - would ever be given these levels. In '73 and beyond, Elvis simply did not devote the pre-requisite time to warrant such distinctions.
This is not to say I don't take Elvis seriously as a martial artist. I do, but only up until about '68 or so. And even then, he was never good enough to get to competition level.
And I do not practice karate. Never have, never will.
elvisfan4ever
04-24-2007, 01:47 PM
The last two "dans" Elvis received were largely ceremonial, and nobody involved in the martial arts world took them seriously. Google Bill "Superfoot" Wallace for some extra info. Again, as we have discussed on another thread, these so-called degrees were given to Elvis purely because he was Elvis. Only a full-time martial artist - or, at the very least, someone who is willing to take a lot of time out of their lives to do it - would ever be given these levels. In '73 and beyond, Elvis simply did not devote the pre-requisite time to warrant such distinctions.
This is not to say I don't take Elvis seriously as a martial artist. I do, but only up until about '68 or so. And even then, he was never good enough to get to competition level.
And I do not practice karate. Never have, never will.thanks 4 ur reply peace to u always(y) we got opinions its all good -as far as im concerned. elvis got his 8th dan black belt because it was earned not given to him just because of who he was....im sure elvis accepted no free gifts like that -he was 8 dan because he sweated 4 it...lets all give him credit 4 doin so getting his degree the honest way...this is the way elvis always led his life being honest .simple down to earth until the end.. way to go elvis:notworthy .......have a nice day~~~~Joe(y) :king:
Merry
04-24-2007, 03:53 PM
I don't have a problem with Lisa's singing. It's nice she has a own style and not copying her fathers. I like her lyrics in the songs she writes, she has seen enough and won't be pushed around and for that l gave her the thumbs up!!!!!!
Presley and Diane (y) (y)
Jess
Actually, no, I don't despise Lisa Marie at all. I usually try to avoid her if she's in the news. I dislike her and Priscilla. The only person in the public eye that I despise is President George Dubya Bush, but that's a whole other kettle of fish ...
What I have always said to my son. Take a leaf out of Thumper's Mother's Book:
"If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all".
There is a lot to learn from our children! :clap:
(y)
Jess
elvisfan4ever
04-24-2007, 04:44 PM
Presley and Diane (y) (y)
Jess(y) (y) (y) (y) (y) :king: :clap:
Merry
04-24-2007, 06:57 PM
The last two "dans" Elvis received were largely ceremonial, and nobody involved in the martial arts world took them seriously. Google Bill "Superfoot" Wallace for some extra info. Again, as we have discussed on another thread, these so-called degrees were given to Elvis purely because he was Elvis. Only a full-time martial artist - or, at the very least, someone who is willing to take a lot of time out of their lives to do it - would ever be given these levels. In '73 and beyond, Elvis simply did not devote the pre-requisite time to warrant such distinctions.
This is not to say I don't take Elvis seriously as a martial artist. I do, but only up until about '68 or so. And even then, he was never good enough to get to competition level.
And I do not practice karate. Never have, never will.
This is from a friend of mine, who trained with the same people as Elvis did.
I hope this information is correct, as truely, only Elvis knows. I wish people would realise that three people can be involved in a conversation, or an incident, and those three people all will come away with different views.
It would be lovely, if as fans, we could be as nice as what Elvis was, to others.
QUOTE:
"It takes years to be awarded a Black Belt in most if not all forms. My
girls earned theirs in 2 years.
Elvis did study under Ed Parker and was awarded a legitimate black belt.
He did not just play around with it but took learning very seriously. Yet
there was no way Elvis could have taken part in any tournament because of
his fame and it would have been stupid to risk anyway.I'd say he became even more involved afer 68 however. He not only studied
with Parker but Dave Hebler had his own studios as well. I studied at his
Ontario Calif Location and Elvis was at the Glendora Location that Hebler
ran himself. Then he switched to Tai Kwondo under Kang Rhea.
Kang awarded him an 8th degree..... But if you check the records Chuck
Norris is the first in North America to have received an 8th degree in Tai
Kwondo, long after Elvis was gone.
You see after 5th degree it becomes more of what you give to Karate rather
than your knowledge. Money, Appearances, etc whatever with continuous study
will get you another degree.
When Ed Parker was asked about the degree situation his reply was "Elvis was
a good blackbelt, whatever degree he may have held"
I believe he could hold his own but there are certainly guys that were a lot
better.
Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris come to mind. But then there is Ed Parker and
Dave German and Lou Cassamasa. You should see his son Chris. Check him
out in Mortal Combat."
I hope this clears this up.
Jess
P.S. SRJ - Which form of The Art do you practice, and to which level have you attained?
........
Merry
04-24-2007, 07:32 PM
Firstly, they weren't dope heads at all; they may have been slightly drunk and were just boisterous.
Secondly, the bodyguards were right there just as much as Elvis. He exaggerated the story over the years until it was him versus a group of 28 roughnecks armed with machine guns and machetes. And they weren't "mob connected" either as the story goes. They were just silly guys with time on their hands.
Hi SRJ
Would you mind advising where this info is from, please? I just asked a friend of mine, who was also a friend of Elvis' who said the following:
QUOTE:
"Not much to the story that I remember - they rushed the stage and got thrown off - was over and done with in seconds....
I never heard Elvis exagerate the story...it was mentioned briefly once and that was it...don't recall anyone else ever mentioning it being exagerated either. Was this supposedly written somewhere?" END QUOTE
Thanks for filling me in SRJ?
Jess
elvislover101
03-14-2008, 10:04 PM
I Think Shes Good I Like Both Her Cds And Cant Wait For The Second On She No Elvis But She Can Sing And People Need To Under Stand She Not Her Father And Never Will Be Shes Her Own Person And What Lesbin Thing?
Getlo
03-14-2008, 10:51 PM
isince when diane does having a mixed up childhood make you gay?
Probably since the same time someone (let me think who now) put up the dumb theory that having infrequent gay liasons with another woman makes one a lesbian!
Lisa has had same-sex experiences, but that does not mean she is a lesbian. And I fail to see the relevance of hers or anyone sexual preference.
TotallyInsane
03-15-2008, 06:21 AM
Probably since the same time someone (let me think who now) put up the dumb theory that having infrequent gay liasons with another woman makes one a lesbian!
Lisa has had same-sex experiences, but that does not mean she is a lesbian. And I fail to see the relevance of hers or anyone sexual preference.
I finally have to agree with you Getlo on this one!!!:lmfao:
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