View Full Version : Anyone notice Priscilla at Elvis' grave?
bossman
05-12-2006, 05:04 PM
Hi
Just wondered if it registered that there was video footage of Priscilla and the four American Idols paying respect at Elvis' grave last night.
This is a first I believe where we have any photograph/video of Priscilla at Elvis' grave.
Very Touching
Anyone able to grab a capture of this and post it for us?
TCB
riley
05-12-2006, 10:46 PM
Saw that also. She stood there with very few emotion. it was as if she showed just another artifact of the house.(n)
Indre
05-12-2006, 11:50 PM
She is VERY artificial in everything she does or says and she looks pregnant which would be a horror movie (at the age of 61!? :blink: :lmfao: ). I keep disliking her more and more.
Indre
05-12-2006, 11:57 PM
Anyone able to grab a capture of this and post it for us?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/Indile/cilla11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/Indile/cilla22.jpg
polksaladhasie
05-13-2006, 01:55 AM
:blink: I want to see that too... :angry:
but in germany not possible :lmfao:
Dovey
05-13-2006, 05:15 AM
It is all about the $$$$ for Silly Cilla..... How sad.. (n) (n) Dovey
Cryogenic
05-13-2006, 05:33 AM
I want to see the video for that hot chick at the side! Move over, Priscilla, you're yesterday's news. Who is she? One of the contestants? I don't watch this show. Nor would I ever. But I'll make an exception here. :D
graceland123
05-13-2006, 09:26 AM
she looked though she was pregnant :D
i agreee there was no emotion it was just showing another elvis exhibit to her
shes very cold
EnigmaticSun
05-13-2006, 09:30 AM
It's a strange world.. I don't appreciate the Idols-series that much either, though it is not inherently bad to confront today's youth with Elvis and his legacy. I guess I would take a different approach as far as Elvis' grave and possessions are concerned (this is s? sacred). It's a mixed feeling. I think that few artists are capable of getting near to Elvis' musical and spiritual strength. Elvis was the King in his own right.
riley
05-13-2006, 09:45 AM
In those pics her face looks like Michael Jackson a bit. That is weird.
Always tought she was simply gorgeous but she seems to loose that battle.
I don't think she is pregnant, she always had tendency to have a little tummy.
ForeverTheKing
05-13-2006, 09:53 AM
I can't see that program here...but she seems so pathetic....I can't say any others thing!:angry: :cursing:
Dovey
05-13-2006, 12:09 PM
I want to see the video for that hot chick at the side! Move over, Priscilla, you're yesterday's news. Who is she? One of the contestants? I don't watch this show. Nor would I ever. But I'll make an exception here. :D
Cryogenic, her name is Katharine McPhee.. .. she is really a pretty girl. .. Some of the songs she sings are really good... others not so good.. but she has potential. (Although she did not do real well with her Elvis songs ... on other shows she did very well) Dovey :D
Unchained Melody
05-13-2006, 12:20 PM
From that first picture, the way the picture was taken she looks alot like Michael jackson:lmfao: . I don't care for her at all really, we all know what she is about and that is CAS$$$$h.(n) But she still manages to get involved in every Elvis project. New fans who see these things like Elvis By The Presely's and stuff like that probably don't even realize that her and Elvis got a divorce and had been for like 4 years, thats what amazes me.
franny
05-13-2006, 03:37 PM
Saw that also. She stood there with very few emotion. it was as if she showed just another artifact of the house.(n)
I didn't see that part, but from the sounds of it, maybe it's better that I didn't...
franny
ph10579
05-13-2006, 04:28 PM
michael jackson post-op?
graceland123
05-13-2006, 05:30 PM
she appeears to be piling on the pounds and it could be a question of who ate all the pies
it could however be her jacket which appeeared to be buttoned funny to the side but i noticed she kept putting her hand over her tummy as if to disguisse it
she is unbelivably vain and just can t except the ageing process if her face is any thing to go by
i think she would have still been an attractive woman if she d have left the knife alone
like as been said it is now a case of separated at birth with her ex son in law michael jackson.
She's just money hungry, I guess. Afterall, If I hear that she swam in the pool near to the grave of Elvis without having any emotions with it I think it's disgusting and she often proofs that she totally doesn't show any respect for Elvis at all. What I found most hypocryte was that she even dared to say at Oprha that she still loves Elvis. Yuk. :angry:
Be safe and take carde,
Christel (TCE)
Menwithbrokenhearts
05-23-2006, 11:08 PM
If I'm not mistaken, this was taken shortly after Elvis died. Look closely at her then at poor little Lisa. I think this photo says alot about what each would develop into and how they were dealing with his death.
binoreisen
05-24-2006, 01:03 AM
I'm sorry but this picture was taken at the Raggedy Ann and Andy Premiere March 26 1977
In my opinion we should be more tolerant towards people and regarding the surgerys - firstly it is not our business - so many people in Hollywood had face liftings - why not Priscilla Presley
Thanks
graceland123
05-24-2006, 11:14 AM
lisa doesnt look very happy with her mother
she d probably rather be with her dad
in the plastic surgery issue i agree its up to each person how they want to look
as a red blooded man though she was a hot toddy at 1 time and i think she may well of still been so if she would nt have gone for the surgery
francie
05-24-2006, 11:33 PM
[I agree with everyone. She looked awful. She is in it for the money thats for sure. I think Lisa Marie should do the publicity for Graceland. Pricilla left Elvis 5 years before he died. She should not be part of it now.(n)
Menwithbrokenhearts
05-25-2006, 12:05 AM
I'm sorry but this picture was taken at the Raggedy Ann and Andy Premiere March 26 1977
In my opinion we should be more tolerant towards people and regarding the surgerys - firstly it is not our business - so many people in Hollywood had face liftings - why not Priscilla Presley
Thanks
Thanks for correcting me. The site I got it from had it labeled that way. I guess I shouldn't assume things. :blush: Sorry.:blink: Lisa does look like she'd rather be with her dad though. She's not in a good mood for some reason.
Katie
05-26-2006, 03:21 PM
In those pics her face looks like Michael Jackson a bit.
lol I thought I was the only one who thought that!
emsteph
05-27-2006, 02:04 AM
I think that it was great that American Idol went to Graceland. They showed plenty of clips and even had the last 4 contestants practicing their Elvis songs at his piano. Lisa Marie even showed up and took them out to the gates on a golf cart to meet fans.
The show itself was made up of each contestant singing 2 Elvis songs.
The girl actually blew the words to a song by turning her back to the crowd and mumbling something. The judges picked it up and she still made it to the finals a couple of weeks later, only to lose out to a Jay Leno look alike.
Great exposure of Elvis though to a young new crowd.
ad schijven
05-27-2006, 10:46 AM
Saw that also. She stood there with very few emotion. it was as if she showed just another artifact of the house.(n)
Yes Riley and that`s just one of the many things that`s wrong with this woman. She never shows any emotion as it concerns Elvis.......however??.....
maybe when she finds out the profits are running low....miserable woman !!
The only thing she can do perfect is taking over the part as the Joker in `Batman`
elvisfinland
05-27-2006, 11:55 AM
But the American Idol guys was quiet and respect the King.
That was sad see that even on TV that Elvis was there :'(
Sheila
05-27-2006, 01:47 PM
I just wish Priscilla would just get lost!! I am really SICK of her! Some gold digger she is!
She's just money hungry, I guess. Afterall, If I hear that she swam in the pool near to the grave of Elvis without having any emotions with it I think it's disgusting and she often proofs that she totally doesn't show any respect for Elvis at all. What I found most hypocryte was that she even dared to say at Oprha that she still loves Elvis. Yuk. :angry:
Be safe and take carde,
Christel (TCE)
Such hate for this woman from fans, but Elvis never hated her himself. He openly said that he continued to care for her after the divorce. Why wouldn't she still love him? His fans do and they never met him! She didn't say 'in love' after all. Some people just can't get over her leaving the man, even though it was clearly his fault for being a neglectful, adulterous husband in the first place. I'm as big a fan of Elvis as anyone, but let's get some perspective please. She is a woman with faults, but not the devil.
EnigmaticSun
05-29-2006, 04:46 AM
I really don't think that it was Elvis in the first place. Where two people struggle, there are two at fault and it was no secret that Priscilla also saw some other men (Example: Mike Stone)..
I wouldn't say that Priscilla caused as much damage as Hitler, Stalin and Bush, but she can be very cold and did some nasty things to hurt Elvis as a father and husband - she often talked about 'Mike Stone making me feel like a woman' and she also tried to (temporarily) keep Lisa-Marie away from him and that's just terrible.
However, making money from Elvis' legacy has always been interesting enough for her, though she doesn't pay too much attention to artistic considerations (please give me Elvis In Concert from '77 on DVD, EPE!!).. The character she plays in the Naked Gun is more or less realistic & representative.
Of course it doesn't all mean that only she is evil in the world or that there can't be any positive side. I guess that Elvis felt that she was the mother of their only child and that was a reason not to become too indifferent, taking into account Lisa-Marie's feelings and her growing up. I wouldn't attack her (=Cilla) personally (=ad hominem), but I would ask her some serious questions..
Such hate for this woman from fans, but Elvis never hated her himself. He openly said that he continued to care for her after the divorce. Why wouldn't she still love him? His fans do and they never met him! She didn't say 'in love' after all. Some people just can't get over her leaving the man, even though it was clearly his fault for being a neglectful, adulterous husband in the first place. I'm as big a fan of Elvis as anyone, but let's get some perspective please. She is a woman with faults, but not the devil.
I don't hate her. (Like you said: everybody has his/her faults. No body is perfect.) I just think she's hypocrite by saying always different things, like she can't make up her mind (Remember she said after her divorce: I don't want to keep the name Presley, but what did she do? She kept his name on her products, because it sells better.) and that she doesn't show any respect regarding Elvis. (Afterall they surely also had some great moments together and you just don't throw such moments away.) I know Elvis loved her and that they still had contact after their divorce, which I find a great thing by the way. And I think Elvis had learned from his mistakes he'd made in the mariage with Pris, because the girlfriends he had after Pris were almost always around him, as far as I know. Maybe he didn't realize what he was doing after it was too late and he didn't want to make that mistake again.
Christel (TCE)
Sheila
05-29-2006, 04:02 PM
Has anyone read the book "The Child Bride"? There's a big difference between "Elvis and Me" and "The Child Bride". I always believe that she twists alot of stories around to make herself look innonce and Elvis as wild, bad temper, drug use and so on....I think it is Priscilla is the one that started with all of Elvis' problems through the years. Just read the book.
Awickedreigndrop
05-29-2006, 10:19 PM
In those pics her face looks like Michael Jackson a bit.....
That's funny! That's who I thought she was when I first glanced at the pix!!! :lmfao:
ForeverTheKing
05-29-2006, 11:42 PM
Yes Riley and that`s just one of the many things that`s wrong with this woman. She never shows any emotion as it concerns Elvis.......however??.....
maybe when she finds out the profits are running low....miserable woman !!
The only thing she can do perfect is taking over the part as the Joker in `Batman`
I agree about the Joker...ah ah...:lol: ...look this picture...why she ruined her lips in this way?
She was so pretty years ago...(n)
13553
Unchained Melody
05-30-2006, 12:08 AM
in that picture yes her lips are quiet large but hey for a 60 year old shes not doing to bad lol..
ad schijven
06-02-2006, 02:39 PM
Priscilla`s biggest problem is that she`s on the outside almost as ugly and miserable as she is on the inside. Will we ever be freed from her presence and bad comments(n) (n) (n)
claire
06-02-2006, 04:43 PM
I watch the show every season and always wanted them to do an Elvis tribute! I don't think anyone could ever live up to Elvis, but it was nice to see the show finally recognize Elvis with all the other singers being brought to the show. I also think Priscilla gives off like she cares about Elvis. She comes on very cold and she looks terrible. What about those lips???????? She also looks pregnant, but I hope not!!!!!!I think Taylor Hicks did a good job on the songs he did , although he did change some of the words to In the Ghetto. I voted for him every week and was happy he won!!! Jailhouse Rock really rocked that night!!!
carolynlm
06-02-2006, 05:26 PM
Priscilla can't seem to do anything right can she...according to the posts here.
What if she was at the grave and threw herself down and wept uncontrollably...would that make you happy?
Now before anyone gets on my case about being on the wrong messageboard, which some of you have done in the past, let me say this. Priscilla has made mistakes...and so has Lisa, and so....by God, did Elvis....horrors of horrors....Priscilla is a 'product' of Elvis......Elvis who wanted to control her totally and fully, and it seems as though it hasn't left her yet. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes for quids.....
MauriceColgan
06-02-2006, 11:50 PM
The Priscilla bashing has gone on long enough..............it's pretty tasteless in my view and ruining this ELVIS message board for a lot of people.
TJ is quite right.
tcbeus
06-03-2006, 06:29 AM
Has anyone read the book "The Child Bride"? There's a big difference between "Elvis and Me" and "The Child Bride". I always believe that she twists alot of stories around to make herself look innonce and Elvis as wild, bad temper, drug use and so on....I think it is Priscilla is the one that started with all of Elvis' problems through the years. Just read the book.
I have read the book, and yes there is a big big differennce between those 2 books.And its shokking reading The child bride after Elvis and Me.But i belive The child bride tells the thruth about Priscilla.
riley
06-05-2006, 04:44 AM
Enigmaticsun,
she did some nasty things to hurt Elvis as a father and husband -
I also happen to know that from someone who knew them both, I wonder you also have this information from some insider because it pretty matches the things I was told in confidence.
Also Priscilla keeping the child away from him for months, she did that I knew that also.
He could see only his child when she was busy and she had Michelle her sister taking care of Lisa.
Michelle understood and knew Elvis was a good dad and she let him visit when Priscilla wasn't at home.
Later on Priscilla took him back to court to receive more and he was smart enough to demand a 50/50 sharing of time concerning Lisa, which she agreed upon this time.
I have one written statement from an interview of Cilla, she stated it only once and there she told on a local TV station that he didn't cheat her, she did cheat on him first.
I was shocked and sad too, they "LOOKED" so perfect but unfortunately every fairytale has a dark side.
Riley
orwell1976
06-05-2006, 05:23 AM
I don't like Priscilla too much, but I can understand some of the things she did. I can't blame her for keeping her daughter away from Elvis. Priscilla knew that Elvis had problems with his "medication" and I really can't blame a mother who tries to get her daughter away from such a person. When Elvis was sober, he was great but in the end the stuff he was taking controlled him. So I really can't blame her for that. And that she showed no real emotion on the grave isn't such a problem to me, too. Elvis is death for nearly thirty years and the grave is a part of the Disneyland that EPE sells you as the place Elvis lived. So it's just natural (and that may be one of the very few natural things on Priscilla nowadays) that she feels no big pain. But I blame her for constantly lying big time. She claims to be Elvis' widow, she rebuilt the house and tells the people, Elvis lived like that and she has re-written his and even her lifestory. I can understand if she doesn't tell every bad detail, but she has cleaned it up way too much. So I don't care too much for Plastic-Prizzy, but I wouldn't say that I hate her for anything. She just acts like a lot of people do (just look what certain members of your own family tell you about their lives and compare it to the truth). But it's all a big sensation, because she and Elvis where no odinary coupple.
riley
06-05-2006, 09:30 AM
she kept Lisa away from him after she just left him but when he agreed to pay more she had no problem whatsoever to let Lisa spend time with him.
Also towards the end when he had to take a lof of medication due to his illnesses Lisa came to visit him.
ad schijven
06-05-2006, 10:19 AM
Yes Riley !!! that`s the way this barracuda operates. :angry: As soon as the magic word `money` is heard, everything is possible!! I agree with you that Priscilla NEVER allowed Lisa near Elvis, untill Elvis started paying more.(n)
I think that says it all doesn`t it???(n) (n)
franny
06-05-2006, 05:31 PM
she kept Lisa away from him after she just left him but when he agreed to pay more she had no problem whatsoever to let Lisa spend time with him.
Also towards the end when he had to take a lof of medication due to his illnesses Lisa came to visit him.
Him keeping away from Lisa was not because of his medication dependency just in the beginning to hurt him. Lisa wasn't even allowed to call her dad and when he called it was always Mike who took the phone and didn't want to pass Lisa through.(n)
That's terrible, riley....I don't think that's right at all....What does $$$$$ have to do with it? Priscilla was not lacking in this...I wonder if Lisa knew what was going on when she was little...
franny
riley
06-05-2006, 11:16 PM
Believe me , she remebers.
She was a very smart kid and heared a lot.
I once heard one hearthbreaking story about the two of them.
Lisa was used to lay next to Elvis in bed since she was a baby.
They talked baby talk and had their usual baby daddy thing going on.
Nothing wrong with that.
Lisa did this even when she was older and her parents were divorced. Priscilla told Elvis she didn't want that to happen anymore. And if he still allowed her in his bedroom she would know.
So Elvis afraid of doing something wrong or to loose her visting stopped doing that immediately.
He locked the room and the poor child would sit there for hours, calling his name, not quite understanding why her daddy was acting that why.
Did she do something wrong???
Had she behaved badly???
She was very sad and confused and fell asleep in a little corner close to his door. The maid found her.
He was locked in his room and heard his little girl crying and begging him to let her in but he had to refuse. Simply because Priscilla had told him that they were too close and Lisa was too old for that kind of thing.:angry:
When I first read it, I really had to cry.
The only thing that he still had in those late years was his little daughter and they had a special bond. Priscilla took that away from him also.
In later years Cilla had a boyfriend M Edwards, who became in love with Lisa and did things that were not acceptable. When Lisa told her mother FIRST Priscilla became angry and told Lisa she was imagining things and behaving in a provocative way??????
So it was OK to have her boyfriend mess with Lisa, but it was not OK to let Elvis who was her father have baby talk with his little Lisa
After hearing stories about her I didn't like her anymore but always still gave her some credit after hearing that story I closed the door for good on her . I knew enough.
Riley
Dovey
06-06-2006, 06:41 AM
Thanks for posting that Riley... now you know the reason that I am not.. nor never will be a Cilla fan. Elvis gave us so much even though he had so much hurt to deal with in his life.
Love the King forever .. ;) Dovey
carolynlm
06-06-2006, 06:38 PM
People will believe what they want to believe about Lisa and Priscilla. There have been stories circulating for years about different things that have happened, or didn't happen, whichever the case may be.
Who of us have never made mistakes in their life? I know I certainly have....it's just that mine aren't so public.
Just remember that Priscilla opened Graceland, no matter what you might think of her personally....she, and Lisa have allowed us to walk through Lisa's home......yes, they have made a lot of money from this, and yes, they have made a few errors in judgement as to what type of things they have for sale at the Graceland shops, but the fact still remains, they have helped keep Elvis' name alive for these past years...and for that, I am grateful.
In those pics her face looks like Michael Jackson a bit. That is weird.
Always tought she was simply gorgeous but she seems to loose that battle.
I don't think she is pregnant, she always had tendency to have a little tummy.
Little tummy???????:blink:
poormansgold76
08-25-2007, 04:49 AM
She's just money hungry, I guess. Afterall, If I hear that she swam in the pool near to the grave of Elvis without having any emotions with it I think it's disgusting and she often proofs that she totally doesn't show any respect for Elvis at all. What I found most hypocryte was that she even dared to say at Oprha that she still loves Elvis. Yuk. :angry:
Be safe and take carde,
Christel (TCE)
angry:
Know Want, You Guys are so mean, this might my last post, I'm tried reading of put down about Cilla and Lisa Marie, Money Hungry I don't Think So, they have money for their life. The Money from "In THe Ghetto" Sales goes for Help People don't have money for get help, You think Money Hungry Do that, I don't Think so.
I know what Money Do Some people It Change them, went my father die I go alot money, for 2 1/2 years I was broke again, 25, 000 was gone, I wish I put it away for good, I got mother that was hungry for that money angry: about it, shesay that's sure be my money, that's I buy things to getting out my hands and her's.
Don't talk about people you real know that way, we are lucky have graceland opening because of her. Think about it.
I'm sorry I read this tread it's burns my mm-ss
I'm done posting things on here only my single covers will posting
Sorry Arbert You got great web site
Bye for now
Tom:
Believe me , she remebers.
She was a very smart kid and heared a lot.
I once heard one hearthbreaking story about the two of them.
Lisa was used to lay next to Elvis in bed since she was a baby.
They talked baby talk and had their usual baby daddy thing going on.
Nothing wrong with that.
Lisa did this even when she was older and her parents were divorced. Priscilla told Elvis she didn't want that to happen anymore. And if he still allowed her in his bedroom she would know.
So Elvis afraid of doing something wrong or to loose her visting stopped doing that immediately.
He locked the room and the poor child would sit there for hours, calling his name, not quite understanding why her daddy was acting that why.
Did she do something wrong???
Had she behaved badly???
She was very sad and confused and fell asleep in a little corner close to his door. The maid found her.
He was locked in his room and heard his little girl crying and begging him to let her in but he had to refuse. Simply because Priscilla had told him that they were too close and Lisa was too old for that kind of thing.:angry:
When I first read it, I really had to cry.
The only thing that he still had in those late years was his little daughter and they had a special bond. Priscilla took that away from him also.
In later years Cilla had a boyfriend M Edwards, who became in love with Lisa and did things that were not acceptable. When Lisa told her mother FIRST Priscilla became angry and told Lisa she was imagining things and behaving in a provocative way??????
So it was OK to have her boyfriend mess with Lisa, but it was not OK to let Elvis who was her father have baby talk with his little Lisa
After hearing stories about her I didn't like her anymore but always still gave her some credit after hearing that story I closed the door for good on her . I knew enough.
Riley
Where did you read that story?
riley
08-25-2007, 07:21 AM
don't remember that anymore sorry.
But I heard more or less same version being in Memphis and talking to an ex tourguide who also was befriended with Billy Smith at the time.
He said Lisa began taking her naps in the big fur couch (jungle room) after Elvis had let her known that she was too big to take her naps with him in the bedroom.
At that moment, it was quite acceptable and I did not give it more toughts either. Could be he had decided this by himself you know.
Years later when I was finally connected to the internet I came accross this same story but now with more details and I immediately remembered that little and at the time so innocent story.
Probably the story was told to other people in a more elaborate version and that's the way I found it somewhere.
It matched the things I heard but also the reason why he decided suddenly to close the doors.
Is it true or not, well only Elvis and Pris know that ofcourse.
I believed it reading it first and was very emotional about it.
Lately I can see a Lisa who gets along with her mother pretty well and Pris is so proud of Lisa and then I think by myself ...
Maybe lots of things were taken a bit out of context, maybe she did tell Elvis it was not right for a little girl anymore to be that close to him etc etc...
So many things will have been said between two people on the verge of a seperation too.
I don't know:doh:
If Lisa is fine with her nowadays well I can have peace with it too.
I don't agree with everything she did in the past at all but I try to have peace with it. Millions of words won't bring him back to us either.
presley31
08-25-2007, 07:27 AM
I just accept that lisa and priscilla made mistakes, but thats what we people do in life.
ksimms2
08-25-2007, 07:43 AM
My mommy is upsessed with him!!!!!!
The King's Queen
08-25-2007, 07:54 AM
Priscilla is a 'product' of Elvis......Elvis who wanted to control her totally and fully, and it seems as though it hasn't left her yet. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes for quids.....
Sorry...but you have this totally wrong. If Priscilla is a "product" of anyone, it would be her mother, Ann. THAT is where the control factor started. That is also where she learned to be deceitful, secretive, and cold natured. And sadly, that is also where she learned that "marrying Elvis" was not a CHOICE, but a REQUIREMENT. :mad:
Some people just can't get over her leaving the man, even though it was clearly his fault for being a neglectful, adulterous husband in the first place. I'm as big a fan of Elvis as anyone, but let's get some perspective please. She is a woman with faults, but not the devil.
Sorry T_J, but I am gonna have to disagree with you too! In the first place, let's not forget that Priscilla lived with him for more than a few years BEFORE she married him. He was not faithful to her then, and she KNEW it. But, you must also consider the fact that Pris was NOT the sweet little innocent girl that she has portrayed herself to be either!! This is a fact proven by those who have called her out on several of her lies...read the book "Child Bride" if you have any doubts. The idea that her leaving him was "clearly his fault" has no merit. She weaved a web and caught a superstar. Enough said....:mad:
presley31
08-25-2007, 08:07 AM
Its funny that people go by child bride that is full of lies. The lady that wrote the book needs to get her facts straight.
Diane
08-25-2007, 08:09 AM
I don't know if these stories about what was said between Priscilla and Elvis about Lisa laying in bed with her dad napping or talking was true or not but I sure am against that kind of thinking. Lisa was still practically a baby at the time.
I don't see anything wrong with a daughter and a dad lying on a bed talking no matter how old the daughter is. I sure wouldn't have fits over my daughter doing that with her dad. That was a taboo that I was brought up with too and it sure hurt me after the age of ten when my dad suddenly wouldn't let me sit in his lap anymore and didn't hug me as before. I know it hurt him as much as it did me. It was years before my mother told me why and she felt it was wrong too but he had been brought up to be careful of that or people might accuse him of abusing his daughter.
Lots of sick thinking back then and still some of it nowadays.
Diane
presley31
08-25-2007, 08:12 AM
very true Diane!!!
The King's Queen
08-25-2007, 08:24 AM
Its funny that people go by child bride that is full of lies. The lady that wrote the book needs to get her facts straight.
Sorry presley31, but I believe that Ms. Finstad has quite a few of her facts straight. Priscilla herself did interviews for this book, although she didn't "sanction" it as a biography. I feel fairly sure that if there were tons of untruth in this book, Pris would not have hesitated to take legal action. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Elvis was not at fault for some of their problems, nor am I laying it all on Priscilla. Neither of them were truly committed to the marriage...and they both married for the wrong reasons. That doesn't mean that they didn't care for each other...I believe that they did, just in the wrong way perhaps. :blink:
these stories about what was said between Priscilla and Elvis about Lisa laying in bed with her dad napping or talking was true or not but
I don?t believe that story.(n)(n)
presley31
08-25-2007, 08:45 AM
Sorry presley31, but I believe that Ms. Finstad has quite a few of her facts straight. Priscilla herself did interviews for this book, although she didn't "sanction" it as a biography. I feel fairly sure that if there were tons of untruth in this book, Pris would not have hesitated to take legal action. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Elvis was not at fault for some of their problems, nor am I laying it all on Priscilla. Neither of them were truly committed to the marriage...and they both married for the wrong reasons. That doesn't mean that they didn't care for each other...I believe that they did, just in the wrong way perhaps. :blink:
Why would priscilla take legals matters in to her own hands about a silly book that trashes elvis and priscilla? There marriage feel apart cause elvis wasn't a movie star anymore and was out touring for months, which as being a daughter of a trucker, its very lonesome for the wifes and children. Priscilla just wanted elvis home and to be honest which wife wouldn't. I guess l will never agree with the bashing of priscilla. She will always be great in my eyes.(y)
retroprincess
08-25-2007, 08:47 AM
All I can say is that I look at those pics of Priscilla and the idol contestants at Elvis' gravesite, which, remember, was part of some filmed footage, and to me, that is wrong. This is Elvis' gravesite. To me that's not something to be featured on a show, certainly not somewhere Priscilla should be featured as part of a show. I think it's in very bad taste, and extremely disrespectful. I know they were divorced and all, but that is still the grave of the father of her daughter, and visiting it should be a private, respectful thing, not something done in front of a TV camera.
All I know, is that if that were me, I couldn't do what she did.
presley31
08-25-2007, 08:49 AM
I don?t believe that story.(n)(n)
I believe it,l dont' see nothing wrong with napping with your mom or dad, but at a certain age it should stop. My son slept with me when he was a baby, but now he sleeps on his own.
Diane
08-25-2007, 09:09 AM
The napping or sleeping part should stop at a certain age between parents and children of opposite sexes that I agree with, but laying down on a bed talking with the door open should not be suspect or viewed as something to worry about....if the said parties are emotionally healthy people.
I don't feel that the story that Priscilla divorced Elvis for the reason of his addiction around Lisa has any validity as Priscilla left him before his intake of pills was really serious and Lisa was there visiting during the worse of it.
Diane
Sorry presley31, but I believe that Ms. Finstad has quite a few of her facts straight. Priscilla herself did interviews for this book, although she didn't "sanction" it as a biography. I feel fairly sure that if there were tons of untruth in this book, Pris would not have hesitated to take legal action. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Elvis was not at fault for some of their problems, nor am I laying it all on Priscilla. Neither of them were truly committed to the marriage...and they both married for the wrong reasons. That doesn't mean that they didn't care for each other...I believe that they did, just in the wrong way perhaps. :blink:
You do realize that Priscilla won a lbel case against the author of Child Bride dont you?She did take legal action and won.So much for that fact based book.
Jak
presley31
08-25-2007, 09:15 AM
well said jak, l forget she won the case against the book.
Donut
08-25-2007, 09:16 AM
You do realize that Priscilla won a lbel case against the author of Child Bride dont you?She did take legal action and won.So much for that fact based book.
Jak
I think you are wrong jak. I think she took legal action against Currie Grant for the story he told about him and Priscilla making love before meeting Elvis not against the writer of the book.
Oops, forgot we had the same conversation in a thread you started months ago. If i?m not mistaken we posted inputs about the book and the trial between the too of them.
She couldn?t win against the writer because I bought the book last year and it?s sold legally everywhere.
presley31
08-25-2007, 09:36 AM
I think you are wrong jak. I think she took legal action against Currie Grant for the story he told about him and Priscilla making love before meeting Elvis not against the writer of the book.
Oops, forgot we had the same conversation in a thread you started months ago. If i?m not mistaken we posted inputs about the book and the trial between the too of them.
She couldn?t win against the writer because I bought the book last year and it?s sold legally everywhere.
There is another thread about the book, but l don't think jaks wrong.
Donut
08-25-2007, 09:42 AM
There is another thread about the book, but l don't think jaks wrong.
Well ok you don?t think he is wrong, that?s your opinion. Now tell me around what you formed that opinion. If I?m wrong and she sued Finstad and won I?d like to know the facts and why the book is sold everywhere.
riley
08-25-2007, 09:46 AM
Priscilla only sued Currie Grant and not Finstad S.
presley31
08-25-2007, 09:51 AM
does it really matter who was right and who wasn't right?? This is the problem with the threads about priscilla is everything we say goes off the topic, so no wonder we had so many heated views and discussions. I can't really be bothered with that book and it contents, just like the other books out there l don't have time for them either.
Donut
08-25-2007, 10:31 AM
does it really matter who was right and who wasn't right?? This is the problem with the threads about priscilla is everything we say goes off the topic, so no wonder we had so many heated views and discussions. I can't really be bothered with that book and it contents, just like the other books out there l don't have time for them either.
OK I respect your opinion on Priscilla, now would you mind if people that want to discuss this subject or others can have the same privilege you have here without being judged for that every time they post theirs?
Thank you presley31.
presley31
08-25-2007, 10:37 AM
I was talking about the book donut!!!
I think you are wrong jak. I think she took legal action against Currie Grant for the story he told about him and Priscilla making love before meeting Elvis not against the writer of the book.
Oops, forgot we had the same conversation in a thread you started months ago. If i?m not mistaken we posted inputs about the book and the trial between the too of them.
She couldn?t win against the writer because I bought the book last year and it?s sold legally everywhere.
Hey Donut
I think you are right.I believe she won a judgement against Grant.That still casts a shadow on the book.I believe he was a central character in the book to illustrate how evil Priscilla was.If she did in fact win a libel suit why do people still believe it?Nobody sues somebody like that if they are in the wrong.It only stirs up more dirty laundry.
Jak
Donut
08-25-2007, 11:55 AM
Hey Donut
I think you are right.I believe she won a judgement against Grant.That still casts a shadow on the book.I believe he was a central character in the book to illustrate how evil Priscilla was.If she did in fact win a libel suit why do people still believe it?Nobody sues somebody like that if they are in the wrong.It only stirs up more dirty laundry.
Jak
Hi jak.
I don?t think it pictured Priscilla as an evil at all. In my case I started to feel a little sorry for her after reading the book. That Currie story could be true or not but you know there were several stories told by lots of people in the book some by her school friends and some boyfriend that made the same statement as Currie Grant, that she slept with some of them. Why didn?t she sued all the rest if their stories were all made up? maybe because she knew they were true?
You know, I think the same rule we aply to Elvis when we discuss his life and "tell it like it is" or like we see it should be aplied to Priscilla too don?t take what she says like gospel because she like Elvis (in other matters) could and sometimes has been proved to lie for their own behalf and I don?t know what makes you think she isn?t capable of that. Maybe becasue she isn?t made of blood and bones and botox?
Now don?t stop calling Donut your guinea fowl ;)
franny
08-25-2007, 02:00 PM
How would her school friends know about her life with Elvis or what happened with Currie Grant...
There's so many different stories about what happened with Priscilla and Currie, but since Priscilla did win a judgement against Currie, how can one believe everything Currie says...:hmm:
How can Priscilla go around suing everyone for everything they say, does anyone sue other's on Elvis' behalf, and we all know there's lots of false rumours being said bout Elvis...
franny
Diane
08-25-2007, 02:05 PM
I'm sure that a lot of what has been said out there and in books are false rumors about both Elvis and Priscilla.....and Lisa as well.
Diane
Donut
08-25-2007, 02:18 PM
How would her school friends know about her life with Elvis or what happened with Currie Grant...
They don?t say they know she slept with Currie Grant, one of them a boyfriend she had in Germany says he himself slept with her and some of Priscilla?s girlfriends from school said she was afraid Elvis found out.
Now I couldn?t care less if she did or not but if it?s true and I don?t find it so odd from a teenager nowadays or 50 years ago it would make her statement of being a virgin untill she married Elvis and her self created image of a innocent naive little girl perverted by him untrue.
Simple as that.
presley31
08-25-2007, 02:20 PM
one day maybe the turth might came out,
The King's Queen
08-25-2007, 04:31 PM
They don?t say they know she slept with Currie Grant, one of them a boyfriend she had in Germany says he himself slept with her and some of Priscilla?s girlfriends from school said she was afraid Elvis found out.
Now I couldn?t care less if she did or not but if it?s true and I don?t find it so odd from a teenager nowadays or 50 years ago it would make her statement of being a virgin untill she married Elvis and her self created image of a innocent naive little girl perverted by him untrue.
Simple as that.
I agree with you. I really don't care what she has done in her past, I just get tired of the almost constant portrayal of the "innocent" Priscilla being tainted and perverted by the "bad" ol' Elvis. Come one people.... I have a daughter, and I would NEVER have allowed her to go and do the things that Priscilla's parents allowed her to do at such a young age. I think that Pris had problems long before Elvis came into the picture. Not blaming her for that, just stating my opinion. I do, however, blame her for keeping his name. A name that she supposedly didn't want to carry at the time of the divorce, or shortly there after. I also find blame with her in the fact that she monopolize's on his "name" each and every time she can. Sure, I appreciate that she kept Graceland afloat. But I do not believe that it was done for the "fans". Priscilla herself stated that the fans "were annoying" to her. So would she bother herself that much to do something for us? Not likely...It was done to provide financial insurance for herself, and Lisa Marie. Do I blame her for that? Not if her motive was solely in Lisa's best interest...there is where the problem comes in, because I think she wanted to make sure that she was covered too!
presley31...I know that you like Pris, and I don't have a problem with that. We are all entitled to our opinion's. I try not to comment in an "ugly" way about anyone, such as name calling and the likes, so as NOT to insult my fellow Elvis fans who do happen to like her. However, I just don't like her. I don't hate her, I just don't like her. And that is just my opinion. Hope you are not offended....:)
presley31
08-25-2007, 04:36 PM
I agree with you. I really don't care what she has done in her past, I just get tired of the almost constant portrayal of the "innocent" Priscilla being tainted and perverted by the "bad" ol' Elvis. Come one people.... I have a daughter, and I would NEVER have allowed her to go and do the things that Priscilla's parents allowed her to do at such a young age. I think that Pris had problems long before Elvis came into the picture. Not blaming her for that, just stating my opinion. I do, however, blame her for keeping his name. A name that she supposedly didn't want to carry at the time of the divorce, or shortly there after. I also find blame with her in the fact that she monopolize's on his "name" each and every time she can. Sure, I appreciate that she kept Graceland afloat. But I do not believe that it was done for the "fans". Priscilla herself stated that the fans "were annoying" to her. So would she bother herself that much to do something for us? Not likely...It was done to provide financial insurance for herself, and Lisa Marie. Do I blame her for that? Not if her motive was solely in Lisa's best interest...there is where the problem comes in, because I think she wanted to make sure that she was covered too!
presley31...I know that you like Pris, and I don't have a problem with that. We are all entitled to our opinion's. I try not to comment in an "ugly" way about anyone, such as name calling and the likes, so as NOT to insult my fellow Elvis fans who do happen to like her. However, I just don't like her. I don't hate her, I just don't like her. And that is just my opinion. Hope you are not offended....:)
Say what you like, l gave up defending priscilla cause to quite honest she doesn't give a hoot what people think, she just living her life and doing what she wants. However l will voice my opinions when l feel l need too!
TLC67
08-25-2007, 04:37 PM
In those pics her face looks like Michael Jackson a bit. That is weird.
Always tought she was simply gorgeous but she seems to loose that battle.
I don't think she is pregnant, she always had tendency to have a little tummy.
That is exactly what I thought as soon as I saw the pic!
The King's Queen
08-25-2007, 04:38 PM
As will I.
riley
08-26-2007, 02:05 AM
Hi,
I always think it is a bit funny when I read people saying I would not have allowed my daughter to go live with Elvis....
I have a teenage daughter too and the stories I hear from other girls in class (happily not mine) are shocking. Those girls are young and have alreaddy had more partners in their young life then I had until now in my whole life. Young girls seem not to be afraid of sexual diseases or pregnancy those days at all. Some are pretty wild, leading pretty wild lives too and they are just 16.
Then I sometimes wonder, where are those parents????(n)(n)
You have to consider Pris was 18 (two months younger) when she went to live with Elvis. That is an age that some girls do marry alreaddy and have kids. MY grandmother was 17 when she had my dad.
Priscilla was not a naive child anymore but a young adult women and Elvis did take care of her in an excellent way.
If my daughter would have been 18 and in love with Elvis and he with her, well I must say they are worser choices in the world she could have made.:D
Donut
08-26-2007, 05:12 AM
[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]I have a daughter, and I would NEVER have allowed her to go and do the things that Priscilla's parents allowed her to do at such a young age.that she was covered too!
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I think like you on that matter. Have in mind they were sending her, a teenager, to another continent it?s not like she was just around the corner and to the house of people that they barely knew. I think her parents were meant to move back to US few months after they allowed Priscilla go live with Elvis so it makes less sense yet. If Elvis was so interested in Priscilla he could have visited her or the other way around everytime he wanted in the US but maybe her parents were afraid they would let pass a great $$$ opportunity if Elvis found another love interest during those few months.
Even Elvis knew that situation wasn?t a rational one and so he tried to keep it quiet for years.
riley
08-26-2007, 10:21 AM
she was an american too so for her leaving Germany for US was not that strange either. She was used living in the US, and was used to the language and customs of that country too. It was like going home for her.
So many young people do follow their partners to foreign countries.
She was" a women," not a child anymore.
The timing was indeed strange, Elvis was even not at Graceland when she went over there with her dad.:doh:
But what would have made the difference, two months earlier or later.
Maybe there were reasons we don't know, practical reasons we are not aware of.
Do you all think he was that bad, when you say you never would consider your (adult) daughter living with him.:doh:
He was the most wanted man of the US for God sakes.:D
Little Cilla could have done worse IMO:lol:
Gary1
08-26-2007, 10:37 AM
I guess. Afterall, If I hear that she swam in the pool near to the grave of Elvis without having any emotions with it I think it's disgusting
,
Christel (TCE)
I'm not a big fan of priscilla but I find that very unlikely.Considering The house and grounds are open most days.
Donut
08-26-2007, 10:43 AM
I thought I knew it all and that I was an adult when I was 17 just like everybody else at that age. But now I know I was wrong and that I was a child pretending to be grown up. Times have changed and teenagers are exposed to new things as time goes by but some things never change. A 17 year old kid will always be a teenager and the task of the parents is make us see it in a good way and don?t let us grow up faster than our age requieres. Kids will be grateful for it later in their life.
riley
08-26-2007, 10:52 AM
IMO a 18 year old girl is adult.
Girls mature faster then boys and some girls are very mature at 18 but some aren't even at 40.:lmfao:
Depends on the person.
In my countrie and perhaps everywhere I don't know 18 is considered as legally adult.
How many girls don't marry at 18 or have kids at 18.
Especially in the 40's, 50's and 60's, it was pretty normal since girls still were brought up with the idea to be goodhousewives and most of them did not long for a career or did not went to university either.
Priscilla her mom was barely 18 when she had Pris so I think they considered it perfectly normal too.
Look at the entire family. Ann Beaulieu was young, Pris was young, Lisa was a young mother and now Riley is 17 and also living alreaddy with a man much older then she is.
Pris was with her almost 22 age to marry , even the oldest, in that family
SweetCaroline
08-26-2007, 11:19 AM
I'm sure that a lot of what has been said out there and in books are false rumors about both Elvis and Priscilla.....and Lisa as well.
Diane
Diane,
I always enjoy your posts. Your voice is always one of reason.
When I read some of the threads I always have to thank the heavens my life has never been under a microscope the way the Presley family has. That is not to say I am a fan of Lisa or P.P., ELVIS is always my main concern, but I do pity ANYONE under this much scrutiny.
~Carole~
Donut
08-26-2007, 11:43 AM
Well I never said she wasn?t american or that a 18 year old isn?t legally an adult, though I think it was 21 in those days. That you legally can have a drive license or buy cigarretes have nothing to do with the point I was making in my posts. So if you can?t see it we better leave it this way.
Diane
08-26-2007, 12:12 PM
Thank you Sweet Caroline....I enjoy your posts too. :)
I do pity the whole Presley family and the scrutiny that they are constantly under. I don't agree with some of the things they have done and have my own feelings about it and don't always keep my mouth shut as I know I should, but at the same time I don't feel it is any of my business. They have to live their lives as they see fit just as we do.
If I were in Lisa's place, I think I'd develop the same temper and bad language that she has.
As for Priscilla which this thread is all about, I don't like a lot that she's said and done but to say that she looks like Michael Jackson is really petty and untrue. And what about her little tummy? Check out a lot of teenagers, never mind a woman her age.
Can't believe I just defended her lol, but it goes against my grain when people are so mean.
Diane
The King's Queen
08-26-2007, 06:30 PM
Hi riley,
In making that comment, I didn't necessarily mean the fact that they sent her to live with him. I was making reference to them allowing a 14 year old GIRL to be out until the wee hours of the morning with a MAN...a very famous one to boot! I would not have allowed that. Had he been that interested in my daughter he would have had to bring his fine self to my house to court her. Perhaps I am old fashioned, but just my way of doing things. My daughter was a good kid growing up, but I still did not trust her judgement at that age. She was 20 when she married, and I still guided her in that decision, trying to make sure that she knew what she was doing. As a matter of fact, I am still guiding her along in life, much the same as my elderly mother still tries to advise me. And I thank her and love her for the fact that she cares enough to be concerned... I don't think a parent ever stops being a parent.
And I did not mean to imply that Elvis was a "bad" person. I just think that when you have a man of that age, who is famous and has had women throwing themselves at him for a while, you are just inviting trouble for your child by sending her to "visit" with him unchaperoned. She most assuredly could have done a lot worse, but things might have been a lot better for both Elvis and Priscilla had her parents not been so ambitious. :blink:
Merry
08-26-2007, 08:41 PM
Hi riley,
In making that comment, I didn't necessarily mean the fact that they sent her to live with him. I was making reference to them allowing a 14 year old GIRL to be out until the wee hours of the morning with a MAN...a very famous one to boot! I would not have allowed that. Had he been that interested in my daughter he would have had to bring his fine self to my house to court her. Perhaps I am old fashioned, but just my way of doing things. My daughter was a good kid growing up, but I still did not trust her judgement at that age. She was 20 when she married, and I still guided her in that decision, trying to make sure that she knew what she was doing. As a matter of fact, I am still guiding her along in life, much the same as my elderly mother still tries to advise me. And I thank her and love her for the fact that she cares enough to be concerned... I don't think a parent ever stops being a parent.
And I did not mean to imply that Elvis was a "bad" person. I just think that when you have a man of that age, who is famous and has had women throwing themselves at him for a while, you are just inviting trouble for your child by sending her to "visit" with him unchaperoned. She most assuredly could have done a lot worse, but things might have been a lot better for both Elvis and Priscilla had her parents not been so ambitious. :blink:
Hi Sweetie,
Good to see you too.
Lucky for Cilla's family that Elvis was gentlemanly, from what I can gather.
Gee, my father used to turn up unannounced all the time, to pick me up, grrrrrrrrr, lol.
Hugs,
a verrrry tired
Kimmi
who misses her baby horses
who are sick!
riley
08-27-2007, 08:53 AM
Kingsqueen,
I can agree with everything you said here above.
Parents should guide and give advice and I?m sure that is what the Beaulieu?s did also.
They come across as very fine and caring parents and grandparents . (EBTP)(y)
I cannot believe those rumours circulating about them like in Child Bride.
I do think Priscilla was a very spoiled little girl, adored by her mother and used to receive whatever she liked.
At the time the opportunity was there to meet Elvis, her idol and Paul and Ann gave her that once in a lifetime occasion. Noone could forsee what would come. Not Priscilla not the parents. It began very innocent.;)
Pris could be convincing and I?m sure she pleaded and promissed a lot to her parents in order to keep meeting him. And teenagers at that age can be pretty convincing. And I?m sure she presented it all very innocent and cute.:lol:
They let her visit, met him, met his dad and his grandmother because I read on several occasions they drove Pris themselves to the house in Bad Nauheim. Everything will have been presented in a very nice way and the parents liked him. They liked his good manners, his maturity and the way he presented it. And we all know he had loads of charm.:):)
They trusted him and apparently he never failed their trust if we may believe she still was a virgin when she married. Few can tell they are IMO.:P
As a parent you can guide and advice but at the end our teenagers will try their wings themselves and do things we will not always know nor accept either.
I?m sure Pris did more then talking in his room, I?m not na?ve but didn?t we all experiment with those things in our teens. Some are a bit faster then others.:lol:
As a parent you always have two options you can forbid the things you don?t like and rule a bit like a dictator or you can support a good dialogue in which you explain your toughts and views but at the end let them decide for theirselves. That is what I always try to do with my teenage daughters.
It is difficult for parents to draw the line here.:hmm:
Especially when Cupido interfers.;)
Believe me a teenager in love does stupid, mad things .
As a parent you cannot win the battle with love.
And it is a difficult one, because parents can not see in futur either.
I?m sure the Beaulieu?s had that dilemma. They could have been strickter and maybe Pris would have lost Elvis and would have blamed her parents for life or they could give in and let her go when she was 18. They did and all the rest is history.
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