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joanne
11-09-2005, 05:28 PM
Whats everyones thoughts on Ginger Alden?
She has never written a book on Elvis or really cashed in on his name. She was with Elvis during the last months of his life so she knows a lot. They were going to get married by all accounts, whats your thoughts?

RS277
11-09-2005, 06:02 PM
My thoughts on Ginger......well "getting married" depends on who you talk to or who's telling the story. Cashing in on Elvis? Not long after Elvis passed, Ginger and her mother, sued the estate claiming Elvis promised to pay off their mortgage. She also starred in a movie that was a takeoff on the Elvis legend, the name escapes me. Nevertheless, that went belly up. I believe Elvis entertained the idea of having a young beauty queen on his arm more so than a serious relationship. I think Ginger was all wrapped up in the celebrity lifestlye. Now there is the famous story of the original TCB ring diamond that Elvis had removed and reset into a ring for Ginger. That story is true, whether or not it was meant to be and engagement ring or not, again depends on who you talk to. Recently, Ginger auctioned off some mementos on Ebay which included her tour coat. I'm guessing her career isn't doing to well. :blush:

NEA
11-09-2005, 07:03 PM
Ginger appears to be shrouded in a lot of mystery and suspense surrounding the final months of Elvis' life. Elvis always introduced her as his girlfriend during his shows - never as his fiancee...were they actually officially engaged? Was Elvis going to announce it during the 'Tour that never was'? Were they going to be married at Christmas, 1977?

The question is who do you ask for the real truth on the matter? Charlie? Larry? Joe? Jerry? The Stanleys?

Every member of the family or 'Memphis Mafia' appear to have their own take on stories and events that occurred and I'm sure Ginger has got her very own version of events already worked out, even though she hasn't officially gone public with them just yet in the way of a book. It is quite suprising that she has managed to maintain a quiet profile compared to some of the other 'close' Elvis-related people. But, I'm sure that it is only a matter of time before we read about her version of the truth and what happened on that very sad day of August 16th.

Yes, Ginger has sold a vast amount of items on ebay - did she really have this amount given to her by EP, or did she somehow acquire a number of them from other sources?

What Now, What Next, Where To...

goodniteliz
11-09-2005, 11:54 PM
I believe Elvis entertained the idea of having a young beauty queen on his arm more so than a serious relationship. I think Ginger was all wrapped up in the celebrity lifestlye. :

I agree with you totally.... I think that once Elvis' marriage ended, it was all about companionship and the fact that he didn't want to show up anywhere alone, after all, he was Elvis and could have any woman in the world... certainly he wouldn't show up without a date to anything.... however.... I don't see many of Elvis' "loves" after Priscilla being interested in anything he was, (i.e. his books, his beliefs) and (I could be wrong here) but I see them dating him because he was Elvis.....and I don't see him being interested in any of them except for the companionship they would bring...(we all know how Elvis loathed being alone.)

orwell1976
11-10-2005, 12:42 AM
I don't know if Elvis really wanted to marry Ginger, but I think she's at least none of the people, who desperately trying to make a buck. She never sold her story or wrote a book. And she really could have made money. Ginger could have written a horror-story about the aging, drug addicted rock dino and the dramatic ending of the king. But she didn't do that. She doesn't travel from one Elvis convention to the next and she doesn't tell her story for the next warm meal. So I think she's ok.

joanne
11-10-2005, 03:42 AM
I don't know if Elvis really wanted to marry Ginger, but I think she's at least none of the people, who desperately trying to make a buck. She never sold her story or wrote a book. And she really could have made money. Ginger could have written a horror-story about the aging, drug addicted rock dino and the dramatic ending of the king. But she didn't do that. She doesn't travel from one Elvis convention to the next and she doesn't tell her story for the next warm meal. So I think she's ok.I agree. She was recently asked to appear on Larry King but turned it down and she could have made a fortune from the talkshows. She could have made fortune from a book but she never has. I feel that she has been airbrushed out of Elvis`s life a little bit and although she was only with him for a short time that doesn`t mean that it wasn`t serious and that he wasn`t going to marry her.

Danny Ocean
11-10-2005, 03:08 PM
Elvis wanted to engage with Ginger. But she was to much a familyperson. She wanted to be with her family instead of go on tour with Elvis sometimes. Elvis realized that he rushed to quick in the whole thing. At the end he dindn't want to engage Ginger.

KPM
11-10-2005, 04:14 PM
In 1978 or 79 the movie," Living Legend :was produced by Earl Owensby(he also played the Elvis like character) with Ginger Alden as the girlfriend in it:

This exploitation flick chronicles the rise and fall of a country-rock superstar who bears a striking resemblance to the fallen King of Rock and Roll--despite the film's disclaimer that the flashy, pill-poppin performer decked out in his bejeweled polyester jump suits does not represent
Elvis. The singer's girlfriend is coincidentally played by Ginger Alden, the last girlfriend of the real Elvis. Songs for the film are done by Roy Orbison. ~ Sandra Brennan, All Movie Guide

She did at that time cash in so to speak. I never saw the movie as it had limited release. I do recall the storys about it being made.

joanne
11-11-2005, 06:35 AM
So whats one film she hasn`t cashed in like some greedy people.
I wish to god that he would have lived to marry her as Priscilla wouldn`t have been able to milk the Elvis`s widow bit.

Wendy56
11-11-2005, 01:47 PM
I can't imagine Ginger as Elvis' wife... She was too young for him (well, age is the least important...) and without any experience at all. Not sure about the fact that she loved Elvis. Maybe she was with him because was looking for a bit of fame for herself.
Ginger was pretty, but I prefer Linda... she's a great woman. :notworthy

ComeBackChick
11-11-2005, 01:57 PM
Well, he sure knew how to pick them, here is a pretty Gingerpic that was new to me!

joanne
11-11-2005, 04:41 PM
If I`m gonna be completely truthful there wasn`t one decent woman among them. They were all handpicked for him. He never found the kind of love that he needed they were all out for what they could get.

Danny Ocean
11-11-2005, 05:07 PM
The people around him only had to say Elvis and woman came from all corners of the world..They saw Elvis..not Elvis.A.Presley. The man I admire.

the colonel
11-12-2005, 08:29 AM
Don't you think that ELVIS had to make that decision for himself , instead he went along with what ever JOE, OR GEORGE came up with. ELVIS was truly vain, and vanity only creates shallowness, So E.P. could have met woman on his own that were pretty and intelligent, and sophisticated, but all he wanted was a naive pretty little girl he could mould. He got lucky with PRISCILLA[for a while] but when she grew up, and had enough of the B.S. She did the right thing she left, and everybody blamed her for ELVIS demise, Only E.P. was to blame. Ginger was only with ELVIS because she saw oppurtunity for carreer advancement, and income security, Let's not forget that ELVIS bought her a great condo back in JAN/77 and at the same time was seeing a real young girl who worked at MEMPHIS COMMERCIAL, around the same time.

ComeBackChick
11-12-2005, 09:32 AM
He never found the kind of love that he needed they were all out for what they could get.

I think the one that came close was Ann Margret. They had a great friendship, amazing chemistry and fun!!!:clap: Real shame that they didn't find a way to make it work... :'(

http://work.colum.edu/~ivan/portraits/image/ann-margret.jpg

EnigmaticSun
11-12-2005, 09:40 AM
Well, to be honest I don't think that Elvis was a terrible man. If he was, I wouldn't have heard a lot of positive stories about him..

Elvis got into trouble because of some women, that's true. But I think that when his mother died he was very vulnerable.. On top of that, he had service in the army to do, never giving him enough possibility to mourn..

I think that Elvis was being controlled and that people wanted to see him as something he was not...

I can imagine Elvis' anger.. If he wanted to play a part of Beethoven on the piano,people would say 'no, you just play some typical E major song on the guitar'); this is something that I've read in Guralnicks book 'Careless Love' and I thought it happened in the 60's...

Elvis was a good man, but he was being exploited..

EnigmaticSun
11-12-2005, 09:42 AM
I think the one that came close was Ann Margret. They had a great friendship, amazing chemistry and fun!!!:clap: Real shame that they didn't find a way to make it work... :'(



Yes, you're right. Ann-Margret and Elvis were a great couple!

mistymorning
11-12-2005, 09:57 AM
Ann-m has never said anything bad about him. she really cared for elvis and she is a faithful woman, she has remained married to her husband till now. who knows maybe they could be a wonderful couple!

EnigmaticSun
11-12-2005, 10:08 AM
Ann-m has never said anything bad about him. she really cared for elvis and she is a faithful woman, she has remained married to her husband till now. who knows maybe they could be a wonderful couple!

Never saying anything bad..! That's rare!!

They could have been cute together, that's for sure! I believe I once read that she was 'a female he' and vice versa...

It's also cute to see you on the forum, MistyMorning!

joanne
11-12-2005, 12:43 PM
I agree Ann- margret probably was the best suited to him I remember watching an interview of her a few years ago and the interviewer said that Ann-Margrets favourite co-star was Elvis but when she tried to ask her questions about him Ann interrupted and said that "we`re getting a little personal here" and then she said "I respected this man that I can`t exploit him even in death" and she wouldn`t say anymore and I thought how refreshing. Elvis picked the wrong woman unfortunately.

EnigmaticSun
11-12-2005, 02:04 PM
That's positive.. I guess that Ann-Margret has got a strong character..

I also wonder.. how does she look nowadays? Did she age naturally or did she have surgery like Priscilla?

TheQueen35
11-12-2005, 02:15 PM
Well AM was in Taxi as Washburn's Mom. Here is a picture of her in 2000

http://imdb.com/gallery/granitz/0849-viv/Events/0849-viv/margret1.nne?path=pgallery&path_key=Ann-Margret

and here she is in 2005

http://imdb.com/gallery/granitz/3247/Events/3247/AnnMargret_Caulf_5243870_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Ann-Margret

EnigmaticSun
11-12-2005, 02:35 PM
To be honest, I think she looks better than Priscilla does.. especially on the picture from 2005.. I think I'd prefer that one above the one from 2000, actually..!

She looks .. more natural!

RS277
11-12-2005, 03:07 PM
It's no secret within Elvis' inner circle that he truley loved Ann Margret and she truley loved him. It was decided for career purposes not to pursue any type of public relationship. It is also well known that Priscilla was extremely jealous of Ann. Look at the funeral pictures, Ann Margret is dressed in black and mourning, Priscilla is dressed in black looking like she just won the lottery. I quess she did.

KPM
11-12-2005, 04:01 PM
The worst thing that could have happened to Elvis before he died would have been to marry Ginger. He probably would have tried to mold her into the girl of his dreams and she obviously was no where near the type he wanted,. SHe would not do as he said and was way to independent. She would have been one headache after another. He had enough aggravation as it was.

joanne
11-12-2005, 04:39 PM
It's no secret within Elvis' inner circle that he truley loved Ann Margret and she truley loved him. It was decided for career purposes not to pursue any type of public relationship. It is also well known that Priscilla was extremely jealous of Ann. Look at the funeral pictures, Ann Margret is dressed in black and mourning, Priscilla is dressed in black looking like she just won the lottery. I quess she did.Yes I believe Ann-Margret truly loved him. She seems to be a very good person.
She is still looking beautiful today.

http://ann-margret.com/

EnigmaticSun
11-13-2005, 02:15 AM
I think that Ann-Margret was/is a true tiger, so to speak!! The kitten that knows how to scratch..

I think that if Elvis loved her and she loved him, it would disprove the theory that Elvis really wanted to control people because Ann-Margret isn't a character which is to be controlled..

joanne
11-13-2005, 08:47 AM
exactly and neither is Linda Thompson.

Menwithbrokenhearts
11-14-2005, 11:37 PM
Just saw that Ginger is selling a coat Elvis gave her on Ebay. Here's the link to the item
http://cgi.ebay.com/Elvis-Presley-Mink-Coat-with-receipt-and-L-O-A_W0QQitemZ7563263559QQcategoryZ433QQrdZ1QQcmdZVie wItem

joanne
11-15-2005, 07:37 AM
how many other items has she sold?

mistymorning
11-18-2005, 11:28 AM
Never saying anything bad..! That's rare!!

They could have been cute together, that's for sure! I believe I once read that she was 'a female he' and vice versa...

It's also cute to see you on the forum, MistyMorning!
Thanks!:) :)

EnigmaticSun
11-18-2005, 11:50 AM
You're welcome, Mistymorning!

We're Elvis fans!

Elvis rules in all the directions of the wind :)

orwell1976
11-21-2005, 02:52 AM
I think Elvis never had the balls to marry a woman that was really up to him. It seems almost like he feared to have too much strong women around and he could not be the "master".

joanne
11-21-2005, 07:12 AM
I think Elvis never had the balls to marry a woman that was really up to him. It seems almost like he feared to have too much strong women around and he could not be the "master".A bit like you then. :D

the colonel
11-21-2005, 11:03 AM
this coat is not being sold on gingers behalf believe me, it's done the rounds before with LICHTER, BACK IN 97{PHILLY} , And i remember seeing this when MIKE L MOON had his museum, so this is total bullshit. E.P. also bought many of his coats/jackets from L.B. leather, as i have 2 that ROCKIN ROBIN sold me in 88.

mistymorning
11-25-2005, 04:53 AM
There is an interview with Myrna S mith that she says Elvis wasn.t serious about Ginger, and Ginger was not A naive girl......you can read the whole thing in "Myrna smith interview" thread for yourself.

joanne
11-25-2005, 05:25 AM
Non of the women were naive they were all intelligent women and they knew what they were doing believe me. I don`t think any of them understood how lucky they were to be with him.

Captain Elwood David
02-14-2006, 05:21 AM
Guys / Gals -

By the late 70's, EP's relationships were a self-serving two-way street:

EP was using them as much as they were using him. (Yes, this also applies to Ginger Alden).

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Alden was on her way out, ........ & Kerwin was next in line.

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Vernon could see exactly what Ginger ( $$$$ ) was about & told her to get out of Graceland right after EP died.

EP also complained that he dropped a ton of money on Ginger .............. yet she still wouldn't do what he wanted her to do.

On another note: Linda Thompson was happy to oblige Elvis as much as she was happy to spend his money on herself. Ironically, ............. had she still been there in August of '77, ................. EP would have survived that fateful day.

On more levels than one, .............. EP truly had only himself to blame for what happened in the end.

Sad story, .............. but lots of lessons contained within.


Cappy

Dovey
02-14-2006, 06:27 AM
Well Cappy, Really had to admit it ... but you are absolutely right on all accounts!!! (Elvis was perhaps his own worse enemy and did not even know it.) Sure do love the guy and wish it had ended differently for him. Dovey:king:

Captain Elwood David
02-14-2006, 06:53 AM
Well Cappy, Really had to admit it ... but you are absolutely right on all accounts!!! (Elvis was perhaps his own worse enemy and did not even know it.) Sure do love the guy and wish it had ended differently for him. Dovey:king:

Thank You, "Dovey."

I agree with you on all counts. ;) :lol:



Cappy

riley
02-15-2006, 06:15 AM
If Elvis would have chosen ANN instead of PRISCILLA.

The world would never have known Lisa. And she is a great Person.

I see so much in her of Elvis.

Read somewere that Ann could not have a baby.

Don't know if that is the truth

Glenn
02-15-2006, 07:17 AM
How does Ginger look today? Are there any pictures?

joanne
02-15-2006, 10:31 AM
The last footage I saw of her she was still looking great but her hair was shorter in the style of a bob.

19Ashe86
02-15-2006, 02:43 PM
ya know from what Ive read and seen I really don't believe Pricsilla was as big of a godl digger whatever u wanna call her as some of the members of this board say..
I truely believe he loved her adn she him.. maybe Elvis loved Ann because she wa a firecracker and had the balls to tell him the way it was vs Priscilla who was so scared of losing the love of her life she'd do or not do anything to keep him..

as for Linda and Ginger I dont knwo much abotu either but I think I liek Linda a bit better.. she seems mroe real.. I think Ginger looked alot like Cilla when she was younger.. maybe its just her make up hairstyle in that pic from page 1.. Im not too sure..

I wonder what would have happened if Priscilla would have gone back to Graceland and gotten back together with Elvis what would have happened? would they have gotten re married? woudl they still be together? would he still be alive? more children? would he have gotten healthy?

I truely believe in my heart that they were meant to be together and maybe she was the only oen who could have saved him.. I was watching Elvis by The Presleys and just listening to cilla the way she talked about him.. it was touching.. the bit were lisa talks about the last time she ever saw her father almost made me cry..

Liverbobs
02-17-2006, 12:20 AM
19Ashe86-No disrespect, but you've a lot to learn about Priscilla and what makes her tick..............$$$$$$$$

joanne
02-17-2006, 05:41 AM
She is obsessed with making money, I think you call it greed.

THENATUREBOY
02-17-2006, 10:48 PM
Out of all the girlfriends Ginger was probably my least favorite. I always felt that she never truly loved Elvis, and for some reason, I never thought Elvis really cared for her like he did the rest. She just saw the dollar signs if you ask me.

Captain Elwood David
02-18-2006, 01:05 AM
Out of all the girlfriends Ginger was probably my least favorite. I always felt that she never truly loved Elvis, and for some reason, I never thought Elvis really cared for her like he did the rest. She just saw the dollar signs if you ask me.

In the past, I used to feel just the opposite regarding Ginger.

With time, however, I continued climbing The Learning Curve ......................

In recent years, ............. Ginger has been selling a number of her own EP-Owned items. The conduct of both her & her husband in these endeavors (suffice to say, I will not go into details) did indeed open my own eyes as to her true character. As a result, .................. I am, today, in complete agreement with what you have posted above.

I will also add, that Vernon and a number of others who were there, ............. felt exactly the same way regarding Ginger Alden.


Cappy

joanne
02-18-2006, 07:19 AM
why hasn`t she ever wrote a book though because that would make her megabucks especially since she was the last person to see Elvis alive.

Captain Elwood David
02-18-2006, 02:55 PM
why hasn`t she ever wrote a book though because that would make her megabucks especially since she was the last person to see Elvis alive.

She has, in fact, .............. been working on one for years.

As to whether or not it ever comes out, .................................... your guess would be as good as mine.

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Generally speaking:

Keep in mind, however, ............... that there are a number of people who have a much to add to the historical record .................... but never will.

Amongst the reasons:

Some of them have gone on with their own lives & genuinely want to keep their own memories private (for personal reasons and / or in consideration of their current families / loved ones / etc.).


Capt. N8

Dovey
02-18-2006, 03:27 PM
I can't help but think Ginger's book would be very interesting.... It seems that Elvis Died around 9PM and she did not look for him until around 2AM in the morning (after she had showered and put her make-up on, talked to her mother on the phone) Sounds like a interesting book if she ever writes one.

It was a know fact that Elvis was already seeing another girl because he knew that he and Ginger would never be able to get along. Yes, I realize at 20 years old.. :doh: Elvis' life style would be hard to adapt to for sure.

Seems like a lot of mysterious things happened on the night of Elvis' death. (Many of them will probably never be answered ~~~~truthfully!!)

Just my own thoughts on Ginger.... (n) Dovey ;)

19Ashe86
02-19-2006, 04:15 PM
this whole thing just makes me wonder why she neevr looked for him sooner.. wouldnt she have noticed he wasnt around? blah I dont care what u guys say I still like priscilla

I think Ginger may have been to young anfd nieve to see what was really going on.. too blind maybe.. maybe she just wanted to make him happy/ be happy.. I dont think she could have gotten him to stop anyway

riley
03-10-2006, 05:16 PM
Ginger may have been young but she was not naive. I quote Myrna Smith saying so.

I do not like Ginger, indeed a lot of mysterie is still surrounding the King's dead.

She was freshly showered and had her make up on when she called for help:hmm:

that leaves me with a lot of questions.

It would never have happened when Priscilla or Linda would have been there.

I know that a lot of people do not like Priscilla, but I do. And I am convinced they cared a lot about each other

Recently I heard a story about a person who saw Priscilla with her daughter short after Elvis passing. They were in Nice (France) and she told us how sad the two of them looked.
They were there only just the two of them strolling hand in hand , and she told us how really sad and lost they both looked:'(

joanne
03-10-2006, 06:49 PM
Ginger may have been young but she was not naive. I quote Myrna Smith saying so.

I do not like Ginger, indeed a lot of mysterie is still surrounding the King's dead.

She was freshly showered and had her make up on when she called for help:hmm:

that leaves me with a lot of questions.

It would never have happened when Priscilla or Linda would have been there.

I know that a lot of people do not like Priscilla, but I do. And I am convinced they cared a lot about each other

Recently I heard a story about a person who saw Priscilla with her daughter short after Elvis passing. They were in Nice (France) and she told us how sad the two of them looked.
They were there only just the two of them strolling hand in hand , and she told us how really sad and lost they both looked:'(I can`t wait to read Linda`s book.
Its nice to know that life did exist after Priscilla. :D

Unchained Melody
03-17-2006, 03:17 PM
this whole thing just makes me wonder why she neevr looked for him sooner.. wouldnt she have noticed he wasnt around? blah I dont care what u guys say I still like priscilla
I think Ginger may have been to young anfd nieve to see what was really going on.. too blind maybe.. maybe she just wanted to make him happy/ be happy.. I dont think she could have gotten him to stop anyway
I agree I like Priscilla better thank them all to except for maybe Linda.No, I dont think she or anybody could have gotten him to stop

Menwithbrokenhearts
09-06-2006, 11:44 PM
Just found this interview with Ginger and her sister. http://www.essentialelvis.com/Interviews_GingerAlden.htm

Dovey
09-07-2006, 06:01 AM
Just found this interview with Ginger and her sister. http://www.essentialelvis.com/Interviews_GingerAlden.htm

Thanks for posting the interview... Truly do not know what to think of it... all the books that I have read about her say jus the opposite of her interview.

I know there was a lot of jeaousy with the people who surrounded Elvis so I guess it is food for thought.

Thanks Dovey ;)

Diane
09-07-2006, 07:44 AM
Thanks for posting this interview. I guess we'll never know the absolute truth...........

jak
09-07-2006, 08:07 AM
Ginger Alden was in over her head with Elvis.By the time she came along Elvis needed much than what she could give him.I dont know how naive she was but at that time Elvis was spiraling downward fast and she was probably more of a trophy than anything else.I dont think she was prepared for what she encountered after becoming Elvis girlfriend.My friend who Elvis gave a tlc necklace to was very close to mama pauline the maid at Graceland.Pauline told my friend several times she would tell Elvis to go get his wife because he already had one.Elvis would reply that he keeps trying but she wont come back.That was in 1977 so Elvis must have mentioned to the maid about getting married to Ginger.I was told that Ginger just didnt fit in.I do think as others has said she hasnt cashed in like she could have so give her some credit.
Jak

meg
09-07-2006, 08:32 AM
Pauline is a friend of Priscilla.I don?t believe what she said(n)

jak
09-07-2006, 08:46 AM
Pauline has passed and she was a friend of Priscilla's.You can choose not to believe it but if you knew Pauline you would know she was not a liar.She really did love Elvis and Elvis always called her his brown mama.For anyone to call her a liar and base that on absoultely no facts is *****ic.Meg,can you give me any examples of lies Pauline has told?If im wrong I will admit it.I just would like to know what you base your opinion on.Did you know Pauline?
Jak

meg
09-07-2006, 09:04 AM
I know she passed away.Priscilla wouldn?t allow somebody around her who didn?t talk PRO-PRISCILLA.I am sure Elvis wouldn?t take Priscilla back.He didn?t love her.She was only like a little sister to him:D :D

jak
09-07-2006, 09:28 AM
Im guessing by the response you have never spoken with Pauline which is what I figured.
Pauline and her husband both worked at Graceland for many years including after Elvis died.Both very nice people.
Jak

Dudcowboy_1
09-07-2006, 12:02 PM
If anyone in here reads a lot about Elvis there was book done by Dick Grob(Spelling?) I started reading this and never put it down until very end. It talked about that night Aug. 16th and days after. I never forget on one whole page it said something like this. (Its not word for word) "The Elvis Conspires" I'm sorry but by spelling is not that great.

"Ginger came downstairs, with make-up and all...So made me think."

And it goes on saying how she found him at I think 2AM, still swollow breathing but still alive. Went back to by the bed and called some gossip paper and said "There will be big news at graceland."

Well it goes on few pages. Come find out Ginger knew she was gone after elvis left for new tour in August '77. And this paper offered $300,000.00 for any big story about Elvis. That's how they knew before anyone else Elvis was dead.

I know from going Portage competeing in Elvis Tribute Artist Contest. I met Sam Thompson, Joe, and few other members and stage members. None of them when I ask what you think of Ginger. They say most of the time "no comment."

To me all she was gold digger and what goes around comes around I say.

Dudcowboy_1
09-07-2006, 12:05 PM
I forgot to say this too.

I love Priscilla and her keeping Elvis's name a live. But, out of all the women elvis loved. My favorite has be Linda. She really and truely loved Elvis. She even had him kick his bad habits. I believe if her and Elvis where thoughter in '77 we would not have lost him then. I don't know much longer we would have had him after '77 because his health was not that great. But he might have lived other 10+ years.

0349054
09-07-2006, 02:28 PM
If anyone in here reads a lot about Elvis there was book done by Dick Grob(Spelling?) I started reading this and never put it down until very end. It talked about that night Aug. 16th and days after. I never forget on one whole page it said something like this. (Its not word for word) "The Elvis Conspires" I'm sorry but by spelling is not that great.

"Ginger came downstairs, with make-up and all...So made me think."

And it goes on saying how she found him at I think 2AM, still swollow breathing but still alive. Went back to by the bed and called some gossip paper and said "There will be big news at graceland."

Well it goes on few pages. Come find out Ginger knew she was gone after elvis left for new tour in August '77. And this paper offered $300,000.00 for any big story about Elvis. That's how they knew before anyone else Elvis was dead.

I know from going Portage competeing in Elvis Tribute Artist Contest. I met Sam Thompson, Joe, and few other members and stage members. None of them when I ask what you think of Ginger. They say most of the time "no comment."

To me all she was gold digger and what goes around comes around I say.


Grob based his whole book on Ginger calling the National Enquirer. Well, she didn't. Back then it was impossible to trace which phone in Graceland made the call, and it later transpired from records that the call was made from a payphone.

A journalist in the Enquirer who took the call a few years back confirmed it was a male voice, however he did not and would not say who made the call.

Grob's book is about as credible as his time as a War Pilot....which didn't happen either, even though he told Elvis he was.

angela sourke
09-28-2012, 05:16 PM
well dudcowboy i know ginger and she has had a lot of lies made up and written about her for the past 35 years ...for starters dick grob is a conpulsive liar ..and the guys just did not want ginger with elvis because there lovely little comfy life might change !!!

Diane
09-29-2012, 07:28 AM
I agree also on Ann Margaret for being the best for Elvis. I think the colonel might have put a stop to that relationship.

LaurieT
09-29-2012, 07:33 AM
well dudcowboy i know ginger and she has had a lot of lies made up and written about her for the past 35 years ...for starters dick grob is a conpulsive liar ..and the guys just did not want ginger with elvis because there lovely little comfy life might change !!!

Their lifestyle had nothing to do with it. I tire of people blaming everything on this idea. Many felt Ginger caused Elvis more stress, and he wasn't well in the first place. She was too young and wanted to do her own thing, didn't want to always be a Graceland, go on tour. They knew, as did Elvis maybe in the back of his mind that he prob. was too old to "train" another women. I don't say this to sound mean but any women with Elvis had to devote her life to him. Part of it just was his lifestyle that he thought required it, he was a very, very high maintanence guy. Of course Ginger loved him,,as did many women when the first met him. He was charming, charismatic, and adorable. But as with all the others, reality sets in. I don't think that was in full mode just yet with either Ginger or Elvis. And many people do think that marriage will fix things.
I do think there was a time when both Priscilla and Elvis thought that they might want to go back to each other. They had an emotional bond,,and at one time a large part of it, while not healthy, was based on emotional dependancy. But it never happened because both knew they had outgrown each other. And I think their relationship was very much a love/hate type of relationship.
Just because Ginger had make up on means nothing. I go to bed with mine on and although it might look bad, about 30 seconds, makes it not look bad,,,what do men know about make up anyway. Not like they are a great source.
A man took a picture of Elvis,,there were those willing to betray,,why blame Ginger on the Enquirer thing. Maybe it was the same person as the picture taker?? If Elvis died,,that news would travel like wildfire in the group.
Some of this is just logic and common sense.
I do believe that Priscilla had more than one motive to taking someone else's fiance'. Love, adulation, money, fame. Of course she loved Elvis, who wouldn't. But I do think her parents pushed her, but they could not with out her having desire of her own. The proof is that she is rich, famous, and is alway trying to get attention. She too found the price of that too high when with Elvis and that she did not need him to find that. She after all held the Ace. (Lisa)
Now the MM, at least had jobs and had to be there for him 24/7, and several stuck it out longer than any women did. I thank God Elvis had friends and people to watch over him, offer him fun and friendship. If they got some perks out of it,,so be it. Could he have picked better,,,perhaps,,,but it was his life.

debtdbruno
09-29-2012, 08:10 AM
great post Laurie T........

LaurieT
09-29-2012, 08:37 PM
great post Laurie T........

TY very much, in my best Elvis voice-LOL