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Menwithbrokenhearts

10-07-2005, 11:11 PM

0349054

10-08-2005, 02:12 AM

You mean ELVI$?

Yvosus

10-08-2005, 06:22 AM

Hello,

This is a tough one!

EPE but not only Lennon, Marley, Hendrix legacies and so on are all about business and making money!! This is what their "brands" are aiming at! Sell sell sell... Each of them trying to adapt their marketing image to match their products being sold. It is now the music business that rules not the artistry, a personnal insight from their relaitives or whatever... The innocence is gone for sure.

As Neil Yound said in a recent interview: what was great about Elvis was that innocence he had a very human character simple and authentic to who people may relate to. An iconic figure and the kind of hero you remember with a "smile on your face". He told about the Elvis picture he wanted to use as a cover in his last album, "Prairie wind" in which in pays tribute to E in the song "He was the King" and was willing to pay the price for it and how EPE refused to allow him doing that!

JHow ironic he said they may be willing t to use Elvis image to sell cars, pills or whatever sordi business that may be! and when it comes to Elvis most important legacy: his music, they turned him down personnally!! Can you believe that Neil Young being rejected by a bunch of marketing jerks!!

Parker has made a lot of babies....:hmm:

Priscilla I guess is the only one knowing the real motivations driving her!

0349054

10-08-2005, 07:58 AM

I was just wondering what you guys' thoughts were on Priscilla's current enthusiasm to keep up her late husband's image and Lisa Marie's duet with Elvis and her resolve to keep a positive image out there of her father. I am mixed on both especially Priscilla. Sometimes I feel she truly still has feelings that guide her that way and sometimes I feel Elvis has just become big business. With Lisa Marie, I feel that is all about the love of her father. On "Elvis by the Presleys" she was very hesitant to talk about the negatives and didn't on a few occasions, or stopped the conversation. I've seen her do this in other interviews too, I really respect that. As far as her songs, he is her dad why wouldn't want to express her feelings by writing about it. Anyway, wondering what you guys felt. thanks

"Elvis By The Presleys" or, "Elvis by the Beaulieus", as Lisa and Patsy are the only Presley's in the production was by Priscilla and Lisa, so while it is a nice production it isn't unbiased and doesent draw on anything except what Priscilla approves of. There was an Elvis before Priscilla, there was an Elvis after Elvis and Priscilla.

A few things that Priscilla has done which dont garner favour with me are;

- Convincing Vernon to make her executeur of Elvis' will following his own death, even though Elvis had never expressed a wish for Priscilla to be involved in his will or the management of his estate.

- Her treatment of Elvis' relations once she assumed control of the Estate. Far too much to get into here, but suffice to say she upset a lot of Presley's. Aunt Delta never spoke highly of her until the day she herself died.

- Her redecoration of Elvis' home to the way it was when her and Elvis were together. Graceland is not as Elvis left it. She has redecorated.

- Her manipulation of Guarnlicks biography of Elvis to a pro-EPE stance; although since they paid for it I guess it was to be expected.

- Her sometimes fictional autobiographical book; Elvis and Me.

- The amount of Beaulieus who are now involved with EPE and making a living off of Elvis' name and legacy. Elvis had nothing to do with them from 72'.

- Her donations to Scientology. The reason I list it is that her main income is from the estate and it is from this income that she donates money to a religion which Elvis expressed severe distate for.

On the other side; I do thank and applaud her for opening Graceland up to the public. For assuming control of Elvis' name, image and likeness to prevent any bloodsuckers from living off money which I feel only those whom he decided in his will should inherit. He worked for everything and I don't see any justification in anyone other than his family living off the fruits of his labour. It also prevents people from making a mockery of his name and image; although I do hope they do something about the Impersonators!

Lisa; I think she missed a lot due to her young age when Elvis died. But I have noticed shes not that bothered about Graceland/EPE/ Elvis' legacy. She is obsessed with being her own person - fair enough - but she is Elvis Presley's daughter and I would like to see her be more pro-active in the role of Elvis' daughter. She doesent have much to do with his side of the family or with his beliefs. She really hasnt done that much that I can talk about though.

These are just my observations. I can't say that I dislike them. They are the most recognised 'Presley's' after Elvis. Lisa is Elvis' daughter and looks so much like him it is astonishing. Priscilla, was a woman whom Elvis spent a considerable amount of time with and with whom he seemed to have been very very happy. Just as I believe he would be with us today had Linda stuck around, I too believe had Priscilla and Elvis remained together, he would be still here.

ad schijven

10-08-2005, 08:44 AM

Well in my opion, Priscilla is a first class baracuda(n) The way she`s promoting herself in `Elvis by the Presleys` is a disgrace. It`s always the same old story;
Priscilla is the victim and Elvis is the bad guy.
Somewhere in the dvd set she makes a remark about Elvis` love for his fans. She says: suddenly i knew why Elvis loved his fans so much....they said all the things he likes to hear. This is not only an insult to Elvis but to all the Elvis fans in the world !!!:angry:
I never understood why all Elvis fans like or sometimes even whorship her, because this woman is just an ordinary money maker and the still uses Elvis` name to do so. The dvd set is an outrage(n) it`s the story of the Beaulieu family and the all end up together (almost) screaming `thank you Priscilla !`for opening Graceland to the public, it`s disgusting:angry:
During the whole dvd she`s also still talking about `us`, but to my opinion Elvis stopped the `us` part already in 1972. Lisa Marie and Jerry Schilling said nice things about Elvis, their words showed true love for Elvis, but `the woman` is complaining all the time and that makes me sick. She still using those Elvis fans to make money, but she makes it very clear that she doesn`t like them at all.
Like i`ve said before; this woman is a real baracuda and the Elvis world would be much better of whithout her presence all the time. She must take a good look at the intervieuws that where given by Linda Thompson about Elvis. Linda never says one bad thing about him and still treats him whit respect, that`s the way it should be.(y)
So let`s forget about Pris, her terrible book and even whorse film and this dvd set.
It brings nothing new to the real fans and it`s only there to let her bank account grew once again. Priscilla opened Graceland to the public that`s true, but she only did it for her own profit. It`s also because of her that `Elvis in concert` is still not officially released on dvd and we`re not able to buy pictures of Elvis from that period in the shops around Graceland.
In her opinion Elvis died in 1973.......do i need to say more??

EnigmaticSun

10-08-2005, 11:25 AM

Priscilla is the type of girl who just needs a bit of spanking (like E did with some chick in Blue Hawaii!). (y)

I'd advise Priscilla to leave Scientology and go to Oprah and/or the church instead. :clap:

She (cilla) is his ex-wife and mother of their only child, though..!:blush:

KPM

10-08-2005, 12:26 PM

joanne

10-08-2005, 12:28 PM

I have never to this day understood what Elvis saw in her sure she was attractive but without a heart what does that matter.
She doesn`t like the fans (except when she has something to sell) and has never liked them in fact I`ll go as far as to say she doesn`t like people. They were always at the gate she says with distaste. She didn`t like the guys around him and she never showed any interest in his religious convictions infact she was so cruel as to burn all his books in the sixties.
Elvis on the other hand loved people and would give everything he could to please his fans and thought about others first something she has never done.
She has certainly got a high opinion of herself believing that Elvis could not love any other woman after her when in fact he did -Linda, Ginger etc.
Vernon did not want to leave Graceland to her but in his mind what choice did he have, he wanted Lisa to get everything that she was entitled and he thought the only person that would really look out for her would be her mother when in fact the only person she looked out for was herself.
She likes to go on about how Elvis made her dye her hair black but look at pictures of her in the sixties she had black hair, auburn hair and blonde hair all before she married him and I don`t believe that he made her return all her clothes if he didn`t like them as she states in Elvis By The Beaulieus!!!
I find it hard to believe as she says that she saw Elvis all the time after the divorce a) he was touring a great deal b) he was with Linda etc c) she was shacked up with her karate instructor who is without a doubt the most repulsive man I have ever seen how on earth you can go from Elvis to that is beyond me!
Also the story how she was told by Elvis not to get close to the other wives because he had confided things about the guys to her what a crock! Her best friend was Joe Espositos wife for god sake. She says that they may of thought she was cold because of this what an excuse. They thought you were cold Priscilla because you are don`t go blaming Elvis.
She has changed her story so many times that I don`t think she knows what the truth is anymore.
As for Lisa I would like to see her more involved with the Elvis world coming to Memphis during Elvis week etc, a walk on once every five years during Elvis The Concert is not enough. It annoys me that she goes to Memphis during the quieter times of the year instead of when its Elvis`s birthday etc, it annoys me when for instance in 2002 during Elvis week she chose to watch the fans at the candlelight vigil through the mansion window instead of being amongst them. But I also know that her mother has stopped her doing things on certain occasions. She as also I believe bad mouthed him to her and If anyone watched the Oprah interview of them both together Lisa was very apprehensive at the end when Oprah was plugging the book, dvd, cd and All Shook Up musical while priscilla was loving it even though she had slated Elvis during the interview for giving Lisa too many gifts claiming that he didn`t know what it did to a child and that her life with him consisted of being in a bubble.

Menwithbrokenhearts

10-09-2005, 12:29 AM

Thank you so much for all your replies!

I watched the Elvis by the Presleys dvd again after I read your replies and I have to agree, she, Priscilla, is very much playing the victim and all about herself, whereas Lisa is very apprehensive to talk about anything unless it's a positive memory. I realize that Priscilla has done alot to preserve his image, but it seems obvious what her true motivations are. My guess is that her and Lisa don't see eye to eye too much on this. Lisa does seem more like her father in that respect. I like that about her. But it also seems Priscilla has an adequate amount of control over her as far as EPE goes. (reminds me of another business relationship a little!)
I didn't realize she had redecorated Graceland! That kind of pisses me off. It would have been nice to have seen it as Elvis left it.
I knew that Vernon had done that but I did not know that she had talked him into it. My guess though is that it didn't take much. Elvis wanted Lisa taken care of and protected and so did Vernon. I think that was his prime motivation. She still seems pissed at Elvis but she does know what side her bread is buttered on.eh?
Considering the pressures of being Elvis' daughter, EPE, her mother, all the fans, etc.... I think Lisa has done a pretty good job. I don't think she feels too comfortable in public situations especially when it concerns her dad. I suppose that could be alot or Priscilla's doing too.

Anyway. thanks again you guys!!!

0349054

10-09-2005, 04:22 AM

There are pictures on the net of the way it used be. Can't remember which site, but it was all done in Red, kind of funky. Linda decorated it that way. On the tour of Graceland you can see in the back of the house where Charlie had his apartement some of the furniture that used to decorate the living room in 77.

0349054

10-09-2005, 05:16 AM

lnicks Elvis did have very much contact with Priscilla and her family after 72. He always wanted her there for the openings in Vegas, and told her to bring whomever she wanted. He called her quite a bit just to talk even when he was involved with other girls. Probably a baracuda was what was needed after Elvis
s dad died, someone had to cut out the COl. who was still taking 50% off the top (not counting the side deals) and the estate was $500,000 away from going under. The baracuda got rid of the sharks and kept the wolf from the door. If she had'nt saved the estate the Elvis story would have had an even more tragic and sad ending. Instead it is the most visited private home in the country , after the W.House, and makes money for his daughter-bottom line thats what Elvis would have wanted his daugter secure. Now does Priscilla make a good living at it-you bet, too much maybe. Does she portray her self in a more favorable light than she should, probably but don't we all. I use to hate her after Elvis died but have some respect for the fact that she has worked to keep the estate for Elvis's daughter. I mean after Vernon died who else could have been trusted? Lisa could have taken the reins when the will specified and she decided I'm not into running corporations and its doing well, so she left her mom in charge. Shes much like her dad who also had no interest in the business end. From what I've read in other bios she can be ruthless, in business ruthless is the name of the game. I wonder where you get your info about Peter Guirlnicks books I have not heard of any connection between the estate and him(tht doesn't mean there isn't one Iam just curious)

I don't believe Elvis and Priscilla were as close after 72' as Priscilla likes to make out. You know in 77 she asked Elvis for $100,000 so her father could open a liquer store, Elvis never paid up - yet she moaned about it after he died, saying had he not her father would have eventually gotten the money.

Priscilla also gets far too much praise for the Estate. After Vernon refusing to put her in the will a few times, she finally caught him on his death bed and after she pleaded with him, he gave in. He gave in primarily because he thought the bank and Joe Hanks, the accountant would lead the estate in the right way. They were made executors as well untill Lisa was the right age. It wasn't all Priscilla. Jack Soden also doesent get the credit he deserves because he made a lot of savy business decisions. Priscilla isnt that good a business woman, she takes the credit but she doesent deserve all of it. As Soden said; "Scatter could have opened Graceland and it would have been a success."

As for Guarnlick. He was beholden to the estate financially. Those books are EPE products and the stance they take on certain issues is very obvious. He also uses primarily Priscilla and anyone she favours as a source. Billy Smith was Elvis' closet friend when he died, he was also like a little brother to Elvis ( not like the Stanleys who claim to be ), and he is barely mentioned in either of the books. I also believe he is guilty of plaigarism to a certain degree with that book. The publishing company lost money on the project. I believe it is seriously flawed and should not be taken as a definitve history of Elvis.

joanne

10-09-2005, 05:17 AM

Lisa admitted on Oprah that she had only bonded with her mother in the last two years which means that she only started to get on with her when she was in her mid thirties which if I was Priscilla I would be very ashamed about.
I don`t agree with a lot that Lisa has said and done she has made some stupid mistakes (Michael Jackson for one) and said some stupid things but in regards to her father lets face the facts who has she ever really had to talk to about him, all the Presleys are gone and all that she has had are the Beaulieus and we know what song sheet they sing from.
I don`t think she has had any help dealing with his death and this shows itself by the fact that she can`t talk about the day he died. On every interview she resists going into that day it is obviously still painful for her.
I haven`t liked her attitude on a lot of occasions but I do feel that its a cover for whats really going on underneath.
This woman was once a 9 year-old girl who saw her father being carried out of Graceland on Aug 16 1977 and the first person she phoned was not her mother but Linda Thompson I think that says a lot.

ad schijven

10-09-2005, 07:41 AM

Joanna, i`m glad to read that at least one Elvis fan agrees with me on the `Priscilla part`. I agree with you too about the things you`ve pointed out on Lisa Marie. The `Jackson move` was a bad move, Elvis wouldn`t have liked that.
It`s absolutly true that Linda was the first person Lisa called after Elvis` died and that indeed says it all.
About the Beaulieu family; I`ve visited `Elvis the concert` in 1997 in Memphis. The two of them where present there because `good old` Pris invited them. Pris said that they never attended an Elvis concert before and i didn`t understand that at all. Imagine .... Your son in law is Elvis Presley, the biggest entertainer in the world and during all those years you`ve never attended one concert of the man:hmm: I think that points out exactly from what songsheet they sing !!
I didn`t know about the story that Pris talked to Vernon at the time he was dieing but it doesn`t surprise me at all. The woman is totaly evil in my opinion and that`s why i don`t understand all those fans who still protect her.
Do you remember the scene in the movie `Elvis and me` where you can see Elvis walking around the pool area at the Las Vegas Hilton eating pills like candy??
Everyone knows that Elvis had a problem with his medication, but this scene is an absolute outrage:angry: Later in the movie you can see Elvis picking up the phone when Pris calls him. He has a naked lady in his bed, but how did Pris know that when she was on the other side of that phone:hmm:
Priscilla was already complaining about her life with Elvis in the early sixties when he was out making movies and she was `left alone again in the castle`. My question is: why did she marry the man in the first place? She was already complaining about his relationship with Ann Margret, so why marry a man you don`t trust, who puts you in `isolation`, who dates other women and is never at home? The true reason in my opinion is MONEY!! She decided to marry Elvis and did everything in her power to realise that. It`s far from honest to complain and play the victim all the time when you knew what life with Elvis would be like.
Linda Thompson is much more honest in her intervieuws. She never wrote a dirty book about Elvis(y) She never makes bas comments about him(y) and she certainly is not complaining like Pris does all the time(y)
There was a movie `Elvis and the beauty queen` once, but this was made whithout Linda`s cooperation. So thank you Joanna for backing me up, i`m sure this discussion is far from over. I didn`t even mention the role of the `little sister`Michelle in all of this, because i didn`t come to it. Her comments are almost the same as Priscilla`s, they all `know` facts whithout seeing it with their own eyes. The apple is not far from the tree in this case.
I`ve written a 7 page article about Priscilla`s role in Elvis life, her book/movie and this dvd projekt but there`s not one fanclub willing to publisch it, because they all say....you can`t say things like that about Priscilla!:supriced: .....and my question is...WHY NOT, when it`s the truth;)

KPM

10-09-2005, 04:22 PM

I don't believe Elvis and Priscilla were as close after 72' as Priscilla likes to make out. You know in 77 she asked Elvis for $100,000 so her father could open a liquer store, Elvis never paid up - yet she moaned about it after he died, saying had he not her father would have eventually gotten the money.

Priscilla also gets far too much praise for the Estate. After Vernon refusing to put her in the will a few times, she finally caught him on his death bed and after she pleaded with him, he gave in. He gave in primarily because he thought the bank and Joe Hanks, the accountant would lead the estate in the right way. They were made executors as well untill Lisa was the right age. It wasn't all Priscilla. Jack Soden also doesent get the credit he deserves because he made a lot of savy business decisions. Priscilla isnt that good a business woman, she takes the credit but she doesent deserve all of it. As Soden said; "Scatter could have opened Graceland and it would have been a success."

As for Guarnlick. He was beholden to the estate financially. Those books are EPE products and the stance they take on certain issues is very obvious. He also uses primarily Priscilla and anyone she favours as a source. Billy Smith was Elvis' closet friend when he died, he was also like a little brother to Elvis ( not like the Stanleys who claim to be ), and he is barely mentioned in either of the books. I also believe he is guilty of plaigarism to a certain degree with that book. The publishing company lost money on the project. I believe it is seriously flawed and should not be taken as a definitve history of Elvis.
I looked thru my copy and saw no official connection to EPE. I also looked up reviews of the book and according to the New York Times it was a hugely succesful bio being on the best sellers list for weeks and after reading several reviews of the book and some reviews of his other works Guarnlicks he is considered a first rate straight shooter who tells it as he finds it , with taste and dignity.. The books notes and bibliography in one volumn were over 70 pages- explaining where all info came from and from who it came from as all books have to do. Credit is given where ever it came from. The people inteviewed appears to be a couple thousand(I could not find a total and my eyes are to old to count them) I was surprised not to see Billy Smith listed as a source. I have about 70 bios of Elvis and none is definitive. I would say read all you can (even the bad ones ) and judge the best you can for your self because as Elvis said "If you haven't walked in that mans shoes. or seen thru his eye..."

0349054

10-09-2005, 05:22 PM

KPM, I dont have my copy near me at the moment, so I cant go through it that much!

I don't think that Careless Love is the definitive biography of Elvis that
Guralnick's journalistic friends hyped in their reviews.

It's nothing but a huge re-hash of other books only Guralnick makes the mistake
of putting his own personal spin on things and he's way off base. He has a
bunch of wrong data, dates, times, people, etc..

For instance; Guranlick suggests that it was not only Parker who did not want to pursue the Barbara Streisand movie "A Star is Born." While Elvis
showed great interest in the project initially, it's Guranlick's feeling that overtime Elvis lost interest. Additionally, it is suggested that Streisand tried to take advantage of Elvis from a business point of view; sign him to a contract worth much less than he deserved.I don't believe it was time changing Elvis' mind. It was just the very next day that Parker killed it. Guralnick was led around by the nose by Parker, the same thing happened to Jerry Hopkins when he wrote his books.Thatt was Parker's favorite line, " it wasn't me, Elvis was the one who didn't want to do it!" he used that line whenever anyone questioned him about something that might have been good for Elvis that he killed. Funny thing is he only used it after Elvis died.He was afraid Streisand would inform Elvis a lot about business and that there were people standing in line to make deals with Elvis and/or represent him if he would break away from Parker. Parker would not expose him to people like that in fear of losing control.

One more comment about the Guralnick book. He writes that despite all
the weight he lost, Elvis looked "strangely bloated" during the Aloha
from Hawaii special, and that his expression during the show was
"glazed and unfocused."And that shows how bad Guralnick's opinions and critiques are. The fact is, that Elvis was in great shape, condition, and spirits for weeks before the trip to Hawaii, during the trip for the rehearsals and the actual two tapings and the night after the show.

Guranlick accepted a very generous advance (said by one of his close associates to be $50,000 -- a figure Guralnick did not deny when confronted by a Memphis jurnalist) from EPE to do a future book BEFORE he even started writing "Careles Love". I was recently told Guralnick paid the publisher of "Revelations of the Memphis Mafia" an extra $750 for the excesses "borrowed" from that book.
But the main thing to keep in mind is -- when he sat down to write "Careless Love," he was already under contract with EPE to develop another book for EPE. He borrows far too much from other books.

Careless Love sold 50,000 Worldwide by 2002, don't know what it is now, but it wasnt a mega seller. In comparison, "Elvis; What Happened?" sold 12 million copies worldwide, it is the best selling Elvis book of all time.

I do agree with you though; read as many books from as many sources as possible, although I do think people should read books from those around Elvis first and then move onto books like Guarnlicks - but if anyone can read Alanna Nash's books. They are brilliant.

KPM

10-09-2005, 05:40 PM

To tell you the truth I have read Sonny West say Elvis was down to 165 for Aloha and if you look at him in the waist there is no way hes 165. 180 -185 he probably was 165 or 170 for the 69, 70, 71 dates but not on Aloha. As to the taking from other books as long as it is in the bibliography as coming from them
theres nothing wrong with it. Pick up any book about any person and you'll find many pages of acknowledgements. Elvis :What Happened was never a hardback It was a paperback and I got mine in 77 at K-mart for $2.59. After the initial month it went down to $1.99 on sale. I think K-mart ordered the largest paperback order in history up to that time. The hardback books were around $29.99(to stiff for me) I got mine when the big paperback s came out for $9.99
I'm not trying to argue I just think any writer is going to make mistakes and assumptions based on what he or she has uncovered.

0349054

10-09-2005, 05:44 PM

I understand what your saying. It's just I feel that he is not very objective in the telling of the story, thats all! I had a pretty long winded way of getting round to it also!

RS277

10-09-2005, 05:54 PM

Priscilla's concern for Elvis' image can be summed (no pun intended) up in three words.....MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!!! :angry:

KPM

10-09-2005, 08:22 PM

You know I read all these books so long ago, they kind of blend together, I remember points and forget where they came from. I guess it would not hurt to re-read a bunch of them to know where what came from. A lot of things are basically the same but points of view and personal stories differ. I have noticed Lamar Fike always seems to have a more negative view of Elvis compared to some others. He tempers it with a disclaimer of sorts, but the drift is almost always negative. Schillings is upbeat and pretty much stays away from dirt or gossip(but hes associated with the estate on and off) I think you could view Elvis as a saint or a sinner depending on who you get the story from and how its told.
And the facts could be the same, its just point of view and how its presented. Ususally the truth is in the middle, not always but a lot of the time.

Cryogenic

10-09-2005, 09:30 PM

I don't think that Careless Love is the definitive biography of Elvis that
Guralnick's journalistic friends hyped in their reviews.

Totally agree.

Nevertheless, the scale of the book - even if much of it is stitched together from other publications/interviews previously done - is to be commended.

He writes that despite all
the weight he lost, Elvis looked "strangely bloated" during the Aloha
from Hawaii special, and that his expression during the show was
"glazed and unfocused."And that shows how bad Guralnick's opinions and critiques are. The fact is, that Elvis was in great shape, condition, and spirits for weeks before the trip to Hawaii, during the trip for the rehearsals and the actual two tapings and the night after the show.

I actually find the truth to be a mixture of your opinion and Guralnick's.

Have you ever seen any pictures of Elvis sitting inside the helicopter just before/as it touches down? His eyes definitely look drawn and vacant. When he gets out of the helicopter, he practically blanks the Hawaiian girl that's dancing to greet him. Then he does a short interview with that reporter - and if you've heard it, you'll know he gave fairly indifferent, monosyllabic answers. Now, while these latter two observations could be dismissed as a man simply impatient to greet the crowd and even the first observation could be dismissed as Elvis merely being pensive, I have to wonder... There's just something different. That fire, that passion is still inside of Elvis - but something is obscuring it. It takes more on stage to unleash it. He no longer has the energy or enthusiasm of 1968, 1969 or even 1970. Rocking numbers like C.C. Rider, Burning Love and Suspicious Minds are wheeled off with such a dispassion that Elvis really doesn't seem bothered about even ATTEMPTING to deliver them as he only he could. Then there are the distant expressions on songs like "It's Over" (admittedly, an emotional song - but he looks genuinely depressed in parts) and a failure, despite what appears to be joyfulness while performing it, to fully articulate the words on "Johnny B. Goode". There are also a frightening number of mistakes made during the rehearsal concert. At times, it seems like Elvis' mind is elsewhere.

I've even read somewhere - though this could be completely false - that Elvis was strung out on his balcony the following day/evening. If true, this couldn't be more damaging. A man that should be on top of the world experiencing the depths of despair! Perhaps he was reflecting on his divorce, perhaps he was thinking ahead to his Vegas commitment, but one thing's for certain - this wasn't the bright, bouyant and totally driven artist of five years earlier!

Now, don't get me wrong here: I LOVE Aloha. Elvis really does tear through many songs and clearly experiences many moments of ecstasy. It's a solid hour of groundbreaking entertainment. But Elvis had just had another birthday and formalised the divorce papers - this was surely affecting him for the worse. Moreover, he didn't seem too bothered about his appearance in 1972 - when he was going in front of high resolution film cameras! What does that tell you? As much as it appeared that he had got back on track for Aloha, there was something else going on. A person suffering the severe depression that gripped Elvis doesn't just get over it. He was depressed in 1972 and depressed in 1973; Aloha is sandwiched right in the middle and does not represent an Elvis at his peak publically or privately.

But again, that's not to say it doesn't have things to cherish - it surely does! It's its own thing: good and bad. It even has things to offer that the Comeback Special doesn't and vice versa. But it's not above criticism, and in the arc of Guralnick's narrative, I think he gives it the assessment it's due. He's not necessarily towing the EPE line as much as he's honestly giving his views. Guralnick is lamenting the "unmaking" of a great talent, and in this context, he is surely right to be speaking negatively by 1973 - a year that ended with a bizarre outburst by Elvis on stage and would be topped by an even stranger one the following year! Guralnick isn't us and we are not Guralnick. I think his views are ultimately sensible - if shaped by the subjective biases that human minds are wont to make.

Anyway, back to your regular programming. :D

Speaking of which, I'd like to add a point to your very incisive "Priscilla" list!

A few things that Priscilla has done which dont garner favour with me are;

- Convincing Vernon to make her executeur of Elvis' will following his own death, even though Elvis had never expressed a wish for Priscilla to be involved in his will or the management of his estate.

- Her treatment of Elvis' relations once she assumed control of the Estate. Far too much to get into here, but suffice to say she upset a lot of Presley's. Aunt Delta never spoke highly of her until the day she herself died.

- Her redecoration of Elvis' home to the way it was when her and Elvis were together. Graceland is not as Elvis left it. She has redecorated.

- Her manipulation of Guarnlicks biography of Elvis to a pro-EPE stance; although since they paid for it I guess it was to be expected.

- Her sometimes fictional autobiographical book; Elvis and Me.

- The amount of Beaulieus who are now involved with EPE and making a living off of Elvis' name and legacy. Elvis had nothing to do with them from 72'.

- Her donations to Scientology. The reason I list it is that her main income is from the estate and it is from this income that she donates money to a religion which Elvis expressed severe distate for.

As much as I love "Elvis by the Presleys" for its tasteful presentation and archive material (video footage and audio snippets!), the very title is a contradiction: as you've pointed out, Priscilla is really a "Beaulieu", not a Presley! What's more, her parents pull some odd and, to my mind, false expressions throughout their segments! For every bit of truthfulness in "Elvis by the Presleys", there's a fair amount of treachery and deceit in evidence! However, this takes the cake... The special opens with a chapter called "Elvis: Meeting Priscilla", and as if that wasn't enough, then proceeds with a second chapter called, "Elvis: Introducing Mrs Presley". The whole thing is VERY one-sided. For better or worse, Elvis' legacy is now firmly in the hands of this woman. The Colonel may have grabbed Elvis by the neck - but Priscilla has him by the balls. As that song goes, "the female of the species is more deadly than the male..."

Menwithbrokenhearts

10-09-2005, 10:28 PM

0349054

10-10-2005, 04:59 AM

The way they portrayed Jessie Presley's wife, Vera as Elvis grandmother annoyed me. Anyone who didn't know would think Vera was Elvis grandmother, and the way they spoke about Elvis - they pretended they knew him very well. Elvis had little to nothing to do with Jessie or Vera.

0349054

10-10-2005, 05:26 AM

Totally agree.

Nevertheless, the scale of the book - even if much of it is stitched together from other publications/interviews previously done - is to be commended.

I actually find the truth to be a mixture of your opinion and Guralnick's.

Have you ever seen any pictures of Elvis sitting inside the helicopter just before/as it touches down? His eyes definitely look drawn and vacant. When he gets out of the helicopter, he practically blanks the Hawaiian girl that's dancing to greet him. Then he does a short interview with that reporter - and if you've heard it, you'll know he gave fairly indifferent, monosyllabic answers. Now, while these latter two observations could be dismissed as a man simply impatient to greet the crowd and even the first observation could be dismissed as Elvis merely being pensive, I have to wonder... There's just something different. That fire, that passion is still inside of Elvis - but something is obscuring it. It takes more on stage to unleash it. He no longer has the energy or enthusiasm of 1968, 1969 or even 1970. Rocking numbers like C.C. Rider, Burning Love and Suspicious Minds are wheeled off with such a dispassion that Elvis really doesn't seem bothered about even ATTEMPTING to deliver them as he only he could. Then there are the distant expressions on songs like "It's Over" (admittedly, an emotional song - but he looks genuinely depressed in parts) and a failure, despite what appears to be joyfulness while performing it, to fully articulate the words on "Johnny B. Goode". There are also a frightening number of mistakes made during the rehearsal concert. At times, it seems like Elvis' mind is elsewhere.

I've even read somewhere - though this could be completely false - that Elvis was strung out on his balcony the following day/evening. If true, this couldn't be more damaging. A man that should be on top of the world experiencing the depths of despair! Perhaps he was reflecting on his divorce, perhaps he was thinking ahead to his Vegas commitment, but one thing's for certain - this wasn't the bright, bouyant and totally driven artist of five years earlier!

Now, don't get me wrong here: I LOVE Aloha. Elvis really does tear through many songs and clearly experiences many moments of ecstasy. It's a solid hour of groundbreaking entertainment. But Elvis had just had another birthday and formalised the divorce papers - this was surely affecting him for the worse. Moreover, he didn't seem too bothered about his appearance in 1972 - when he was going in front of high resolution film cameras! What does that tell you? As much as it appeared that he had got back on track for Aloha, there was something else going on. A person suffering the severe depression that gripped Elvis doesn't just get over it. He was depressed in 1972 and depressed in 1973; Aloha is sandwiched right in the middle and does not represent an Elvis at his peak publically or privately.

But again, that's not to say it doesn't have things to cherish - it surely does! It's its own thing: good and bad. It even has things to offer that the Comeback Special doesn't and vice versa. But it's not above criticism, and in the arc of Guralnick's narrative, I think he gives it the assessment it's due. He's not necessarily towing the EPE line as much as he's honestly giving his views. Guralnick is lamenting the "unmaking" of a great talent, and in this context, he is surely right to be speaking negatively by 1973 - a year that ended with a bizarre outburst by Elvis on stage and would be topped by an even stranger one the following year! Guralnick isn't us and we are not Guralnick. I think his views are ultimately sensible - if shaped by the subjective biases that human minds are wont to make.

Anyway, back to your regular programming. :D

Speaking of which, I'd like to add a point to your very incisive "Priscilla" list!

As much as I love "Elvis by the Presleys" for its tasteful presentation and archive material (video footage and audio snippets!), the very title is a contradiction: as you've pointed out, Priscilla is really a "Beaulieu", not a Presley! What's more, her parents pull some odd and, to my mind, false expressions throughout their segments! For every bit of truthfulness in "Elvis by the Presleys", there's a fair amount of treachery and deceit in evidence! However, this takes the cake... The special opens with a chapter called "Elvis: Meeting Priscilla", and as if that wasn't enough, then proceeds with a second chapter called, "Elvis: Introducing Mrs Presley". The whole thing is VERY one-sided. For better or worse, Elvis' legacy is now firmly in the hands of this woman. The Colonel may have grabbed Elvis by the neck - but Priscilla has him by the balls. As that song goes, "the female of the species is more deadly than the male..."

Thanks Cryogenic, very interesting post. Yes I have seen the Helicopter scene and the interview after he got off the Helicopter, and I can't but agree with you on both those occasions. Upon further refelection; Elvis certainly was remarkabaly different at the Hawaiann Village press conference after he arrived than he was during this Astrodome one. In general, I think he is much better than he had been previously and what I mean about that is he's in better shape looking physically stronger.

You are right about him not looking the best in 72' but he was undergoing an image change as he remarked to Larry Geller, when Larry motioned at all the jewlery Elvis was wearing in 72', Elvis said something to the effect of, "It's part of a new image". I do blame the lighting and lack of make up for EOT for his often puffy appearence on stage during it's filming. Have to agree though, he is very different than 1970.

I find Elvis somewhat of an enigma. Vernon is some I really can't figure out all that much, but Elvis especially. By 75' he was using cocaine on the balcony of the Hilton. Snorting it by 75' and then moving onto cotton balls soaked in liquid coke. He said he needed it to get him 'above' the pills he was taking. Then again, it seems he only used it rarely. Most of the group hated to see him use that and broke the toe of the guy getting it to him. I don't know who was getting it to him, but I believe the guy I suspect was the subject of discussion here a while back regarding his fantasy stories of Elvis.

I think you are right in what you say. I sure wish he had lived though. It must be tough to be Elvis Presley 24 hours a day. The world lost a lot of magic when he left, a void that hasn't and won't ever be filled. He was Elvis. Forever ingrained in history and popular culture. A figure from the Entertainment industry who towers over the greatest politicans and world leaders of his period. He was a great great guy, not perfect, but his humanity, mortality and character is what impresses me most about him. E-L-V-I-S and Elvis Aaron Presley were two different concepts. Did ye ever hear Larry Geller talk about the time they were in Knoxville and going to a concert. Elvis was walking with him in the Hotel and turned to Larry when they reached a window and pointed at a group of fans outside. He said, " Those fans love Elvis; but they don't know who I am." I think it pretty much sums up his outlook on life at that stage. Another time he was in the Den in Graceland having his breakfast, bacon and eggs but was just picking at it. Patsy Lacker was with him I think. Linda had gone out shopping, the guys were upsatirs and Lisa was with Priscilla, it was around Christmas also. It was just the two them and he said something along the lines of; "It's funny, here I am, Linda is out shoping, Lisa is in L.A and I'm here alone." I just feel very sorry for the intense loneliness he felt. Patsy went on to say the guys came in a second later and Elvis' mood changed, he coulden't let them see him being vulnerable. He was Elvis after all.

joanne

10-10-2005, 08:23 AM

Wow, I am so glad to start this thread. You guys have given me a lot to contemplate. Another thing I noticed on the dvd, which is basically, Elvis according to Priscilla, is the part where Elvis is talking to Wink Martindale and Wink asks him "Is there anyone special" and Elvis says " No, not any one special girl at this time " the way they edited it in it made it appear that he was saying this while he was seeing Priscilla when if fact it was way before he even met her. That irratated me, and all the whining in the "woe is me" mode. Hell, she's probably richer off of Elvis now that Elvis ever was! Pretty pathetic...There were quite a few voiceovers of Elvis during this dvd which were very misplaced for instance you hear Elvis saying that the best times he ever had were with his family and during that we get Priscilla etc and its made to look like he is talking about them when in fact he is talking about him and his parents.

KPM

10-10-2005, 12:39 PM

I don't know what to think, its funny I reread the segments in Careless love concerning the Striesand movie. It more or less said Elvis was hot for it anf told the Col a few days later who immediatly brought up the bad side and after negotiations for a couple of weeks The COl told him they had not got back to him after wanting $1,000,000 and other changes. Then I went to the A. Nash book on the same subject and Lamar Fike on page 701 is quoted as saying Elvis really did not want to do it and told the Col to make the demands so stiff that they will turn it down. I have never trusted Lamars word , he above all the others wants you to think that Elvis did nothing without consulting him. He wants to play up his publishing affiliations to make it look like Elvis consulted him on those type things. Every one knows Lamar was the butt of many Elvis jokes book even calls him Elvis's whipping boy. Lamar gives me the impression that he has this ax to grind, never had the guts while Elvis was standing in front of him (according to others) but now claims he was so instumental in so many areas of Elvis's life. I hear him on Larry King and you'd think he was the only one who ever stood his ground and told Elvis what he thought. He has had a good living off Elvis, a major source for the Goldman book, several others not to mention the ones he is officially connected to like the Nash ones. The more sensational and lurid the better. He will never make me believe he was Elvis's friend no matter how many times he says it. Elvis was a way for him to make a good living with no talent. I wonder how many of these guys, now that I'm rereading, truely were Elvis's friends?

0349054

10-10-2005, 02:27 PM

Elvis created a lot of problems by paying the guys to be around him. But I do think Elvis was a good enough judge of character to not have people around him who were using him. He always ranted about family members just coming around for handouts. I believe Elvis trusted the guys around him. He didn't hire people because of thier qualifications, he had to like them. I believe they all were his friends, but I think he cared for Billy more than anyone else, even more than Priscilla - which is something that she didn't appreciate it.

These guys spent so many years with Elvis, and they didn't make good money. Elvis payed crap. He gave good perks and helped them when they needed it, but the job they did had no stability. He could and did fire people at will and then take them back. I think had he lived, roughly the same group would be around him. Certainly I think, Joe, Lamar, Marty, George, Billy, Sam, Larry, Jerry, Dick and Charlie would still be working for him. I also think he may have taken Red and Sonny back. he only fired them originally to teach them a lesson from what I've been told, and his track record on doing that supports it.

These guys spent more time around Elvis than anyone. More time than Lisa, Priscilla, Linda or any of the girls he dated. They knew Elvis through and through and he knew them. I sure wonder how Graceland would look today had he lived! The den would be awesome in my opinion!

KPM

10-10-2005, 02:56 PM

You are right about they got paid a crap salary , but got fringes of free travel lodgings, some got homes given to them, cars, jewelry, contacts with people they would have never met in a straight job on the outside, extra cash as each needed it with little any illness he would make sure they got the best of care at his expense add the total of their fringes you come out to a great living. Some of them worked very hard for it, others hinted at things, "My E thats a sharp ring."...
"Wow what a set of wheels E..." some knew just mention it and 9 out of 10 its yours. One guy mentioned if Elvis had done all the things claimed he would have been dead in 65. I just do not buy it all. I also do not buy the saint Elvis image, never did- even when I was young enough to easily want it to be that way. Good books with little controversy on any subject, not just Elvis, sell less. The deeper the controversy, the more lurid it is told, the more questions you bring up the bigger the sales-that lends itself to close scrutiny for motive. One book would show your love and respect for Elvis and tell your version of what you saw, more than one book has to be for the money. So anyone involved with book after book in some way, should bring great doubt. Billy is the exception of the group we've talked about. The rest it boils down to the degree they have done it. I got to say this about Red West, he has made a consistent living in music and tv/motion pictures even when Elvis was alive, He has traded on the name, but is much more selective since the Steve Dunleavy book(where he felt a little burnt by the way it was done)Wow i guess I'm writing a book myself-sorry.

Albert

10-10-2005, 03:10 PM

I was just wondering what you guys' thoughts were on Priscilla's current enthusiasm to keep up her late husband's image and Lisa Marie's duet with Elvis and her resolve to keep a positive image out there of her father.

I have no positive feelings for both of them. The only thing -for me- that make them special is their relationship with Elvis.

I admire Priscilla's commercial succes with the Estate, just like I admire Parker's succes with bringing Elvis to the top. But it's obviously foremost about the money. Just look at the articles that are officially licensed by the Estate, and how many amazing possible things haven't been done by EPE.

Besides the financial succes of Priscilla, I believe that Ernst has done more positive things to improve Elvis' images and the worldwide recognition of Elvis as an artist, than Priscilla has ever accomplised through the Estate. And that say enough.

KPM

10-10-2005, 03:17 PM

I have no positive feelings for both of them. The only thing -for me- that make them special is their relationship with Elvis.

I admire Priscilla's commercial succes with the Estate, just like I admire Parker's succes with bringing Elvis to the top. But it's obviously foremost about the money. Just look at the articles that are officially licensed by the Estate, and how many amazing possible things haven't been done by EPE.

Besides the financial succes of Priscilla, I believe that Ernst has done more positive things to improve Elvis' images and the worldwide recognition of Elvis as an artist, than Priscilla has ever accomplised through the Estate. And that say enough.

Yes Ernst is one of the few positive things BMG(RCA) has done. Has anyone heard about how hes doing since I read he has been very sick?

Cherokee

10-11-2005, 02:29 AM

I'll just cut and paste earlier things I wrote about these two dames:rolleyes:

Elvis was kind of blackmailed into going ahead with the marriage to Pris because they could always publicize that he had been seeing her since she was just a few months shy of 15 and he had just turned 25. She was jailbait, baby! and in - especially - the America of the late fifties/sixties that could totally ruin one's career. I mean: you DO remember the Jerry Lee Lewis debacle, don't you?

Besides, Pris' parents were going to hold Elvis to the "promise" he'd made to the teenage Pris, because they'd after all "let him have her" when they allowed her to move to Graceland in her senior year of high school (when she of course STILL was jailbait).:hmm:

I always have had mixed feelings regarding Pris (and Lisa Marie for that matter. But then she has going for her that she's partially the product of the brainwashing by mommy dearest :rolleyes: ).

Fact is that Pris - and not Elvis as she always claims in her book and all her public appearances - was the one who kept trying to get in contact with him, while he was having fun back in Hollywood with tons of starlets and in Memphis with his girlfriend Anita Wood :hmm: After her continuous phone calls he finally gave in to the little girl and invited her over for two weeks and the rest is history. She went on a hungerstrike, refused to go to school unless she could go and be with Elvis..... Also, she didn't move permanently to Memphis until she was 16 (and not the publicly held opinion of 13), and then for the first year lived with Elvis's dad and his stepmom, before gradually moving into the main house, Graceland......
If you read her story, Pris was the perfect saint and Elvis the devil incarnate :nono: I always thought she was quite the sophisticated and scheming little 14 year old! And history repeated itself in their daughter, who dropped out of school in the ninth grade and had many boyfriends and a drug past before she got pregnant at barely twenty and got married with her then beau.....Now Lisa was predominantly raised by her mom, so you can't blame Elvis for that (n)
What always totally irked me about Pris is that when she was freshly divorced from Elvis, she couldn't wait to drop the name "Presley" insisting in interviews in print and in person that she "was her own person" who wanted to prove her independence and reclaim her own identity by being known henceforth as "Priscilla Beaulieu". The body was hardly cold, or she became "Priscilla Beaulieu-Presley" and the longer time had passed since his death, she returned to being known as "Priscilla Presley". There are legions of people (even in the media!) who still think she is Elvis' WIDOW instead of his EX, whose only connection to the original estate was that she was the single heir's legal guardian!!!!
Did she do good for Elvis' inheritance as far as the memory and the physical (monetary) estate goes? Yes, of course. She increased the finances by hiring the right folks who set out the right strategies as far as making the image and name of Elvis a continued source of income for his heirs.(y) Did she also do it, as she always publicly claims, "for the fans"? No, of course not. That's why EPE allows so much incredible crap to be sold with the EPE stamp of approval. Everybody involved with EPE knows that Elvis' fans are so loyal and (often) so desparate for anything remotely linked to Elvis, that they're almost prepared to (literally) buy anything....... Pris' loyalty is to the almighty US dollar before anything (everybody who saw her at the end of Oprah, pimping the Elvis musical "All shook Up" will acknowledge that).
Having said that, I found Pris (except for her horribly over botoxed and siliconed face) more likeable on Oprah than Lisa Marie. For the first time I saw a glimpse of honesty that was refreshing in its nakedness. Especially the moment where she admitted she was only able to "let Lisa go" two short years ago, was telling and funny.
Lisa, however, for all her cursing, posing and "openness" (is that even a word?) to me always comes across as somebody who is playing a part and therefore, couldn't be farther removed from her dad (especially in his early years) in that respect.(n)

Sorry for the long, very personal, post. These two chicks just get under my skin.

PRISCILLA'S JUNE 22 APPEARANCE ON LARRY KING LIVE

Here's part of the transcript that was about Scientology and what Elvis, according to Ms. Beaulieu, thought about it:

KING: You are a Scientologist.
PRESLEY: I am.
KING: Gets you a lot of raps around. Tom Cruise takes rap for it. Why?
PRESLEY: I don't know. It's doing great, though. Business is great. Any -- you know, I think -- it's a new religion. You know, it's only 50 years old and any great religion, you know is, basically, for some reason that, you know, has a...
KING: Has it helped you?
PRESLEY: Absolutely. Absolutely.
KING: Was Elvis very much into religion?
PRESLEY: Oh, my gosh, yes, you know, from the time he was a very young child, he was, you know...
KING: Was he a believer?
PRESLEY: A believer in...?
KING: Did he believe in god?
PRESLEY: Oh, yes. That was really the foundation that he had -- in our families. His mother and father would go to church, the Assembly of God Church and they'd, you know, sing and it was just -- a part of his life. Absolutely.
KING: What do you think he would have thought of Scientology?
PRESLEY: Well, you know, he was interested in Scientology. He actually went in and it was very, very new back then, and you know, he -- it's -- there's a -- you know, if you saw the special, it he talked about him being in self-realization. It takes a -- it's a long process.
It's not something you just go and, you know, just attend. You have to really work on yourself and he wanted things very quickly, and when he found out he had to really work for it, you know, it was like, well, I'll come back.
KING: I knew L. Ron Hubbard, so...
PRESLEY: Oh, really?
KING: I interviewed him when he wrote science-fiction books in the 60s.
PRESLEY: Oh, I didn't know that.

The entire transcript can be found HERE (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/22/lkl.01.html)

Now, I'm not the biggest Elvis expert (Oh, Captain ) but it's obvious that Priscilla has been trying for the longest time to rewrite history to her liking. She's creating her own fairytale. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-034.gif
It's odd, though, that a woman of her alleged intelligence seems to be forgetting that Elvis has pretty much been living a life in a fishbowl as the most talked about, written about and most photographed person on the planet. It's like when someone like Michael Jackson or Cher denies they've had multiple plastic surgeries: the world has been a witness to much they have been doing during their lives and people therefore remember.

In Priscilla's case, the world - at least that part of the world that has been paying attention - has witnessed several versions of her truth now, changed as it most accommodates her at the time she changes it.(n)

In her version, Elvis was the one who persued her, Elvis was the one who couldn't live without her, Elvis was the one who wanted to get back together etc. etc. etc.
Fact is that teenager Pris went on a hungerstrike after Elvis had returned to the US, that SHE bombarded him with letters begging him to let her come over (Elvis was busy enough entertaining Anita Wood in Memphis and tons of starlets and co-stars in Hollywood, remember?), and after her visit with him I guess she'd made up her mind that one way or another, she was going to be with him.
Did Elvis love her? Sure, but there are different kinds of love, as we all know. I think he may at first have been struck by her physical beauty, and he was still in mourning for his mother, living in a different country, not doing his regular job, which made him more vulnerable when he confided in her. That may have caused him to say certain things that may not have had as much meaning to him, but could be perceived as quite serious stuff by an awestruck teenager......
Did he invite her over? Yep, he sure did. He may have thought it would be a one time thing, pleasing that pretty fan of his from Germany. He may have thought of her as another pretty girl to have a fun time with. Did he make promises to her about marriage and spending the rest of his life with her? Probably, it is documented as such not just by Pris but by others, too.
Did he intend to keep them, or at least when he made those promises, realize the weight a young girl would read in them? Who knows....
Fact is that more than enough folks around Elvis claim that he was more or less tricked into marrying her, into keeping his "promises".....:hmm:

Everybody knows Elvis had a hard time being faithful to his women, and most of his women knew and accepted this. When you think about it, Priscilla was one of the first "other women", since at the time she entered Elvis' life, his girlfriend was Anita Wood, and he also dated several Frauleins in Germany - more than once.
He continued this bachelor lifestyle throughout his relation and later marriage to Pris. She knew it beforehand, yet she insisted on becoming Mrs. Presley. Why? Others had dated him, and had left him when they found out he couldn't just be loyal to one woman at a time..... Ulterior motives perhaps?:hmm:
Anyway, the marriage went downhill, he cheated her, she cheated him, they separated and divorced. She gave interviews right after her divorce in which she did NOT mention that she and Elvis "saw each other all the time" but only complained about him being possessive and that now she could finally become "her own woman and prove that she was her own person with her own talents". To enforce that, she insisted on going back to her maiden name Priscilla Beaulieu, and tried - amongst other things - to make a name for herself as a fashion designer.
Then Elvis dies, and who does little Lisa Marie call? Not mommy, but Linda Thompson......
Priscilla Beaulieu becomes Priscilla Beaulieu-Presley again. Vernon dies, leaving Pris in charge of Lisa's meager inheritance.
Did she do good for Elvis' legacy? Well, the upkeep of Graceland cost much more than she was making as a wannabe actress, so opening it to the public was a gamble, but in reality probably the only way to try and get some revenue from it. It worked. I think that's when Priscilla's pupils from then on were slowly replaced by dollar signs, as soon as she realized how loyal Elvis' fanbase was and how prepared they were to plunk down hard earned cash for even the most trivial souvenirs relating to Elvis.
Priscilla Beaulieu-Presley became Priscilla Presley again and with the repolishing of the real Elvis story, the real Priscilla role in it got repolished as well. Re-written is a better term.

Did Elvis love her? Yep, I think first as a pretty, young fan. Later as a pretty young girlfriend he could mold to his liking, the pretty wife who gave him his only child, and the lovely ornament to show off on his arm.
Did he resent her? Sure, when she didn't or couldn't understand his spiritual quest, when she began to mature and develop a mind and will of her own and later of course when she cheated on him with a guy HE introduced to her, and when she left and took his child with her.....

Was she the only woman he ever loved?:lmfao: Hardly...... Was she the woman he loved the most? Romantically? I wouldn't know, could have been Linda, too. Overall the woman he loved the most obviously was his mom.:hmm:
Did he regret losing her? Yep, but not necessarily because he loved her so much, but - in his mind - because he lost face due to her cheating on him with a "lesser" man. She humiliated him, in his opinion, in public. Everybody knew she had a relationship with the guy, except him. It probably cut as deep into his ego - if not deeper - as in his heart.

Sorry for the long, rambling post. Pris (and brainwashed Lisa for that matter) bring out the worst in me, hehehe;)

About Lisa Marie:

The point is that if she TRULY wished not to be compared to her dad, she would not have chosen the exact same profession, despite the fact that she can't sing if her life depends on it(n) http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/wuerg/vomit-smiley-015.gif

She could have put her lyrics in a book and called herself a poet, or just written stuff down in a book and call herself an author. Or she could have picked a gazillion of other professions, yet she chose the exact same thing her dad did.
Also she's really unbelievable when she says stuff like she did on Oprah, that she doesn't like to be the center of attention and that she did not go to red carpet occassions like every opening of an envelope: she chose to do fashion photo shoots, pose for US glossies, date famous men and ultimately go on stage herself..... not really actions of a person who doesn't want to have attention focused on herhttp://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-034.gif There are tons of celeb's kids who have very full lives and careers well outside the public eye, she could have done that too, easily..... I suspect the fact that she and Pris are out there so much is fueled by economic interests .... keeping Elvis (and thus the cash register) on the forefront.

Again: I'm totally with Albert when he says the only thing she's got going for her is that she's Elvis' daughter. Other than that I really have no time for her.(n)

Sorry for several repetions in the separate posts. There was some time between them of course, originally.;)

joanne

10-11-2005, 10:47 AM

She really lost the plot during the Larry King interview she knows **** well that he didn`t approve of Scientology.

KPM

10-11-2005, 11:12 AM

He probably did not aprove of it(Scientology), theres a difference between approval and interest. Elvis liked the Book the Prophet and gave copies of it to many and felt it had a good message, but never coverted to Hinduism or whatever. He had an interest in numerology and was really into it for a while but that did not make him a huge believer who would bet his life on it. According to Gellar, Schilling and most of the others he had trunks of books about religions of all kinds he carted wherever he went for any length of time, also books on the supernatural. Interesting to read and talk about but doesn't mean you buy it all. He was a curious, curious person.

0349054

10-11-2005, 12:52 PM

Yes he was very well read. But he did express a dislike towards Scientology.

Cherokee

10-11-2005, 03:36 PM

If anything the guy proved to be truly spiritual. Somewhere deep down inside, he knew that the entity we call "God" was not owned by ONE religion, that it was a concept. Elvis' spiritual quest led him to study most if not all religions to find what they had in common and what not, and to take from each religion what spoke to his heart and spirit the most.:cool:

Menwithbrokenhearts

10-11-2005, 11:03 PM

I think maybe he really did love still love Priscilla. During the Desert Storm Las Vegas 74 rant he sure talks alot about her and to her, even dedicating "It's Midnight" to her but then he again maybe was trying to get a message to her, make her think or hurt her back in some way, as may be evident in the way he explained that " you gave me a mountain" was not about her, but then he turns around and sang it like it was. He was definately haunted and hurt by it all for sure. :'(

carolynlm

10-12-2005, 12:36 AM

There are some very harsh statements made here about Lisa and Priscilla, some of them may be warranted, but I have my own opinion on this, so please bear with me.
I have based my opinion on a lot of material I have read, heard or 'read through the lines' and I think that we should really cut Priscilla and Lisa some slack here.
Elvis was the first man that Priscilla had ever had any connection with, besides her father of course, and by all accounts Elvis was a great charmer (understatement of the year!!) He would have made her feel special, the same way he made practically every other woman he came in contact with. It has been said that he mentioned to Joe about Priscilla's bone structure, so maybe he had in his mind all those years ago, that this was to be the mother of his child.
Priscilla knew about all the other women in Elvis' life, she wasn't stupid by any means, but if you take a poll of married women today, and I will tell you that probably 99% will say that they knew their future husbands had faults, but they thought they could change them after the marriage......not going to happen ladies, thats a fact.....!!! The only person marriage changes is the female, she wants to settle down, make a home and have babies...hopefully in that order.....this didn't happen with Priscilla...she already had the home, that someone else had made, was pregnant it seems within hours of the marriage, and what does her husband do?????Go on tour for weeks and months on end....Elvis has women literally lining up at his door....Graceland, LA house etc......I can imagine Priscilla was very lonely, and now with a child that she herself has said that she was willing to abort......
The decision Vernon made to hand over the estate to Priscilla was a good decision...what if he had handed it over to tom parker...heaven forbid....we would have seen dancing chickens on the front porch in no time. I imagine that Priscilla really had no idea that Graceland would end up being as popular as it has become.....it's been a good money spinner for her and Lisa, but also for a good many other people in the Memphis area....don't forget, EPE don't own every shop or every motel in Memphis. I wouldn't like to be either Priscilla or Lisa, they have become 'objects' to the different forms of media, now with the ability and the age of computer technology, they can be put into different situations where us as the public are lead to believe are either doing the wrong thing or saying something that has been completely taken out of context.....Lisa has made some mistakes, but who hasn't...I know I married a man that was absolutely and completely wrong for me, and I think that marriage lasted as long as Lisa's did with MJ, fortunately, the world didn't know I had made a dreadful mistake and was able to get along with my life in a personal manner.....
I'm not saying here that Priscilla doesn't have her faults, I know I have plenty of them....but I think she is ****ed if she does and ****ed if she doesn't.

mistymorning

10-12-2005, 01:59 AM

Can anyone please give a brief explanation about scientology?! Is it a new religion or a branch of christianity?!
Thanks in advance.

Cherokee

10-12-2005, 02:07 AM

Can anyone please give a brief explanation about scientology?! Is it a new religion or a branch of christianity?!
Thanks in advance.

I googled Scientology. Here's one of the results:

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Painful experiences and harmful acts in one's prebirth, current, and past lives become imprinted in the reactive mind and lead to irrational behavior. Departures from rational thought and untrue ideas ("aberrations") can result in wrongdoing.

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0349054

10-12-2005, 05:33 AM

KPM

10-12-2005, 11:28 AM

It was also founded by this guy Hubbard. Before he founded it, he used write sci-fi books! Enough said!

The organisation also looks for celebrity members. It looks after them, as long as they keep giving money. Tom Cruise is a member, and the mother of his new child is going to have to have a silent birth - no screaming, that's what Scientology promotes, if she screams she distresses the child.

Apart from that they have also been caught up in quite a few legal cases of causing physical harm, mental distress to members while also being accused of murder on occasion.

If you want to call it philosophy okay, but not a religion when Hubbard got into , Thetans and the Infinite, and outer space connections and it become the church of Scientology-logical people might consider (what you stated) that before his grand revelations he wrote sci-fi stories to make a living.

Albert

10-12-2005, 11:47 AM

The decision Vernon made to hand over the estate to Priscilla was a good decision...what if he had handed it over to tom parker....

It was a good business decision and I don't believe that many things would have changed. Perhaps the Graceland area would have looked even better.

By the way, the fact that Priscilla converted Graceland as it was when Elvis died, to the Graceland the way she left it in the early 70s. It's just as fake as her lips.

TAke a look at these pictures. Left is the way Priscilla re-decorated it to show the world 'how Elvis lived and how Graceland looked the day Elvis died', while right it how it really looked in 1977:
http://www.elvisowned.com/10.jpg

Check out this site for even more: http://www.zyworld.com/collins3076/Graceland_then_and_now..htm

It's a proof that she likes to change history to make things look better for her. (n)

KPM

10-12-2005, 12:38 PM

In the re-decorated picture is that the same extra long couch and chairs that Elvis had custom made in the early 60s, it looks familiar? Elvis did like to redecorate every few years, but what he saw as classy often was not. At times though he would let people advise him, ohter times he would go to buy and buy all the Jungle Room stuff in half an hour-it reminded him of Hawaii.
Priscilla was in Elvis's life, in one form or another for 17 years, he told her as they left the divorce court "Always and Forever" As much as it is fun to hate and blame her for a lot of things, I'm not sure(just a guess) that Elvis would see it that way. No matter what shes done in job as executer, Lisa and her kids(Elvis's grandkids)are set for life. Lisa must trust wht has been going on or she would have taken over when she could have. I can not see how that would displease Elvis. Sure anyone could have ran the estate, but when you have a personal association and interest in it more incentive is there. Whether she diserves huge credit or a passing nod -she was a woman who Elvis stated to many he loved. Whether he meant it is something no one can ever know but him and hes gone.

carolynlm

10-12-2005, 05:46 PM

0349054

10-12-2005, 05:58 PM

Yes it was like that in 77'. One of the security guards also took pictures after Elvis passed, I don't know if the one that was posted is from Linda Thompson's friend or from the security guy, but it doesen't really matter as the decor remained the same.

Vernon moved back into Graceland after Elvis died, and Minnie Mae as well as Delta lived there untill they both died.

Delta, who never was exactly a cordial woman, threw a huge fit one day when Priscilla and Jack Soden were in the dining room talking about opening Graceland to the public. At times she also disrupted tours, shouting at fans to get out etc...
( She was still living there, and it was her home - so that has to be remembered for her feelings towards the matter. )

Priscilla probabaly changed it so it would look better. She redecorated for the public opening, it remained the same untill she decided to redecorate the house. I think it probabaly does look better now, but for me, it's not my home it was Elvis' and if it was ***** house Red as Priscilla called it when he died - then I say leave it. Besides people are touring Elvis' house, they cant expect it to be prim, proper and classically refined - can they?

Personally, I would have loved to be able to see the house the way Elvis left it. Closest i'll get is, This is Elvis. The filming took place before Priscilla changed it, also some footage of Elvis' bedroom upstairs. For anyone who hasnt checked it out then do! Very interesting to see the way the house has changed since it opened.

Lets not forget, Gladys and Vernons room downstairs! What was Dodger's room, thats been completely redecorated. As have the flats that used to be off the Jungle Room. Cilla was quite busy!

A few people working round there have said that Lisa's room contains only cardboard boxes now - basically most of the upsairs is used for storage. Elvis' office has been moved downstairs practically, as has his wardrobe. Very little remains in his bedroom. Interestingly, there is a CCTV in his bedroom, not the Webcam from the window, an actual CCTV. - Just thought if anyone doesent know they may be interested.

Cherokee

10-13-2005, 12:42 AM

If I remember correctly, those photos of the living area were taken during Linda Thompsons era, weren't they? Do we have any photographic proof that this is how it was exactly the day Elvis passed away? Don't get me wrong here, I am very indifferent toward Priscilla and her family, I don't know them personally. The thing that makes me think though, is that if the general public, was faced with walking through the front door to Graceland and was exposed to the 'redness' and the 'bordello' look of the living room, what would their thoughts have been? Was Priscilla, in her own way, trying to protect Elvis from further scrutiny by the press? Whether this was the right thing to do is now debated over and over.....but how do we know? we don't...thats the main thing. Did the family stay there very often between 77 and 82, and weren't happy with the decorations? We don't know.....I really think that this 'hatred' and I mean absolute hatred, that some fans have toward Priscilla is unfair.....Does she call herself Elvis' widow, or is this something that the press have labelled her? She has retained the name Presley, yes, and I can understand that...she has a daughter to the man, she hasn't re-married.....I have been in exactly the same situation.....my own daughter was horrified after I divorced her father and wanted to go back to my maiden name.....she couldn't undertand it....I eventually did go back to my maiden name, but even now, I don't think my daughter is very happy with my decision. I just think we need to have a bit more tolerance in this world of ours, there are terrible things going on, some of them we can avoid, some we can't...but this constant barrage of abuse targeted at Priscilla is so unnecessary. :king:

I'm sure there are some fans out there who genuinely hate Priscilla, maybe even from the time she was "chosen" by "their" Elvis as his bride:rolleyes:

My personal feelings do not spring from hate, simply from facts. Everybody who objectively takes in her actions, especially those the longer since his passing, will have to at least raise their eyebrows in wonder.
Priscilla did not keep the Presley name after the divorce. She adamantly wanted to make a statement for herself by returning to her maiden name, as most things she does seem to be in her and Lisa's interest more, than for the actual accurate memory of Elvis.
Distorting facts either way, and she has distorted facts both for the better and the worse, is not going to help people's opinion about the sincerity of her actions.
She's often made their relationship look both more rosy than it ever was, and worse than it really was. She has certainly made her own behavior look less bad than it really was and even as recently as in Elvis by the "Presleys" she continued to harp on negative things about Elvis.

In my opinion any form of criticism she receives for actions she has/is tak(en)ing regarding the distortion of Elvis facts to her own (image) benefit, is fair, just as it is fair to criticize all the other "hangers on" who now suddenly describe themselves as having been "Elvis' best friend". The closer you stay to the truth, the smaller the chances that people will call you on your words and actions.(y)

joanne

10-13-2005, 06:54 AM

It should have been left as it was when he died but once again Priscilla took over. It was probably done out of spite because Linda had redecorated it after she left.
As for fans maybe not being pleased with the red decor I have never heard so much rubbish they would of been happy that it had been left exactly as it was when Elvis died.
Whether it was classy or not it was his taste and his house and it should have been respected.
Priscilla had to return it back to the time when she lived there because she still thinks of it as her house and there she is in the dvd sat at the head of the table.
As for feeling hatred towards her don`t you think we`re entitled and here are a few reasons-

STILL USING THE PRESLEY NAME TO FURTHER HERSELF AND HER CAREER WHILE STILL MOANING THAT SHE WANTS TO BE HER OWN PERSON.

MAKING SURE SHE APPEARS IN EVERY DVD AND TRIES TO EXCLUDE HIS EX`S.

PUTTING PICTURES OF HERSELF ALL OVER GRACELAND (WEDDING PICTURE ON WALL, PICTURES WITH HER AND LISA IN THE LIVING ROOM, A VERY LARGE PICTURE OF HERSELF AND LISA IN THE DINING ROOM ON THE WALL AND ALSO HOME MOVIES PLAYING OF HER WHEN YOU WALK AROUND GRACELAND.
WHAT EX-HUSBAND KEEPS PICTURES OF HIS EX-WIFE ON DISPLAY? ACCORDING TO GINGER THEY WEREN`T THERE WHEN SHE LIVED THERE.

IF THAT ISN`T BAD ENOUGH WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO HER ON THE AUDIO TAPE WHEN WE WALK AROUND GRACELAND.

REDECORATING GRACELAND TO HOW IT LOOKED WHEN SHE LIVED THERE.

PORTRAYING ELVIS AS A DEMON IN THE ELVIS AND ME DVD WHILE SHE IS PORTRAYED AS AN ANGEL.

STILL MILKING IT AFTER ALL THESE YEARS WITH HER BOOK, PERFUMES, JEWELLERY AND MOST RECENTLY WITH ELVIS BY THE PRESLEYS AS SHE PUT THE KNIFE IN ONCE AGAIN WITH A ONE-SIDED ACCOUNT OF HER LIFE WITH ELVIS OMITTED ANY OF HER AFFAIRS AND ANY OF HER OWN FLAWS.

I think thats enough to be going on with.
Oh and by the way the press haven`t labelled her Elvis`s widow shes done that herself because it suits her financially. Thats why she won`t remarry because the name is her fortune and not for the stupid reason thats been stated because she doesn`t want to upset her daughter if she goes back to her maiden name honestly some of you need to wake up and smell the coffee you`re living in cuckoo land. You should of been in Elvis By The Presleys because she needed all the help she could get but on second thoughts none of you are Presleys but then again neither were they.

KPM

10-13-2005, 10:01 AM

I think everyone envolved with Elvis's life, not just Priscilla, tries to overplay their relationship with him, since he is passed on. He can not answer yes or no to anybodys claims of what he did or how he would want things.

I'm now curious, since so many think Priscilla is wrong for her involvement should Lisa be stepping in and trying to run things(at least on the Graceland end of the estate since now 85% of the licensing rights are now owned by the marketing company)?And If not Lisa or Priscilla who does everyone think could run this operation better?

I have another question since the estate was near banktuptcy at the time of Vernons death, if she had not stepped in and made the decision to open Graceland(which I would think only someone close could have sold the idea to Lisa) would we hate her more if it had just been sold. This is not too far fetched because until the double dealing of the Col. was exposed in 82 the money to the estate was split 50/50 right off the top and little income was flowing in. that mess getting untangled brought the profits back to Elvis's estate (including Gracelands gate fees, which theoretically would have to be split dollar for dollar with Parker under his agreement with Vernon made the day after Elvis died)I mean I would have hated to see it end up that way.

0349054

10-13-2005, 10:47 AM

Lisa is not that interested it would seem. That is why the handover from executor to Lisa was pushed back.

Scatter, as Jack Soden said could have opened Graceland and it would have been a success.

Priscilla didn't need to sell any idea to Lisa, as Lisa had no say over the running of the estate untill she inherited it, she wasnt old enough in 82' when Graceland opened. Priscilla didnt instigate the tangle with the Colonel as far as I know, though the estate did reap the awards. She always spoke highly of him and even to the best of my knowledge attended his funeral.

Vernon messed up with his Parker deal during Elvis' funeral, and with going against Elvis' wishes by handing over some portion of power to Priscilla before he died. If Vernon died before Lisa was of age the bank and his accountant was to have control until Lisa was old enough. Thats just my opinion. But Scatter could have made it successful!

It's Graceland after all! Home and burial place of E-L-V-I-S!

KPM

10-13-2005, 01:00 PM

Maybe I worded it wrong, so I'll restate it. No you're right Lisa was about 14 in 82, not old enough to need legal authority- but old enough to know that Graceland was hers after Vernon died, so what I was talking about was moral authority. If Graceland was to be opened, Lisa had to give a moral ok, otherwise even if Scatter had opened it (without her at least being filled in on the reasons) there could have been a day of reckoning for whomever. It was Lisas home also- if she was not on board she might have hated whoever did it and possibly taken her own legal actions at when she was of legal age. We will never know because obviously she must have had discussions with her mom about why it had to be done, it could not have been done in secret and then sprung on her.
As we has been dicussed read a dozen books get a dozen differing accounts. I have read that Priscilla had never liked the Col. and when the estate was being transfered to Priscilla as executor a judge who was reviewing the agreements between COl, Elvis and later Vernon asked for further information on them. Then with that opening, Priscilla and the bank official involved with the estate, began investigating and reviewing and the truth was brought to light. A settlement was finally reached to get him out. He even tried to use the fact that he was not of US citizenship and no longer a Dutch citizen to slow down the probe.
So you are right she did not instigate the look into the tangle, but she had a hand in making sure he was found out. Probably so she could do as she pleased without any interference, as she pretty well has.

0349054

10-13-2005, 03:44 PM

This is a quote from an Interview with Loanne Parker:

"It was strained during the period of time when the estate was
forced by the state of Tennessee to proceed, because the people who
were the estate at that time were not allowed to talk with the
Colonel and everything had to be negotiated through attorneys. But
once that was over at the settlement, when they were signing the
papers, Priscilla looked at Colonel, smiled and said, "I wish you
were my manager.' "

She also was seen crying during his funeral, Cilla and Soden wanted to continue doing business with the Colonel even after Lisa's guardian ad litem came to the conclusion that Parker defrauded Elvis. They were out of their element when they opened Graceland and wanted Parker's showbiz experience and con to advise them and help them run the deal. Even though the judge ruled against Parker and agreed with the Guardian's findings.The Board of Advisors from the bank who were the other executors of the estate to make things work businesswise disagreed.

Heres a quote from a book;

On August 16th 1981, the fourth anniversary of Elvis's death, headlines
in newspapers across the country questioned the integrity of Colonel
Parker's management. One headline read, "Former Manager of Presley Denies
Cheating Entertainer." Another went, "Did Colonel Parker Take The King For A
Ride?"
The Colonel lashed back at the press. He issued a statement to the
Memphis Commercial Appeal stating that Elvis and Vernon were always pleased
with his services and that both had wanted to continue their relationship
with him indefinitely. Parker also claimed that detailed explanations were
always given to Elvis before any contract was entered into on his behalf.
And, for the first time, Parker publicly criticized Elvis. He referred to
him as 'a moody and headstrong client with little motivation. Managing Elvis
was not an easy job.'

Then.....

After all the revelations and lawsuits, Priscilla continues to defend Parker, and is quick to praise him in the media. When a company released a book about Graceland, produced with the cooperation of EPE that turned out to contain a tirade by the author about the Colonel, Priscilla tried unsuccessfully to have the publisher pull all copies of the book from stores. She even attended the Colonel's 85th birthday party. The event was held at the Las Vegas Hilton, and was hosted by the Colonel's old friend, Baron Hilton. It is possible that one of the provisions of the lawsuit settlement compels Priscilla to support the Colonel's publicly, or maybe she is trying to preserve the myth that Elvis and Parker were the greatest
artist/manager team in the history of show business.

KPM

10-13-2005, 05:04 PM

As many have pointed out she has many faces, being that she is getting older perhaps with the COls death it reminded her of her own mortality. Who knows?Maybe as with many people(myself included) when someone dies I try to remember whatever good there was and the good times. I'm sure the Col. and his carny like ways brought a laugh to them all every now and then.

THENATUREBOY

10-14-2005, 01:55 PM

I do not like Priscilla that much, some of the things she does is very questionable at times, and I do agree with most of the things that have you all have said about her, but I do admit that she has done a good job with Graceland and all that after Elvis died. I think she did love Elvis but most of the things she does is motivated by money, and not necessarily by what is best for his image.

joanne

12-06-2005, 10:54 AM

She is now using his name to promote the Priscilla Presley Collection which will include fine Egyptian bed linen.