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Jumpsuit Junkie
04-12-2005, 04:28 AM
Elvis, How Tall ???????

The picture below is of Elvis in 1970 side view apparently Getting his Honarary Police Badge in Denver Colorado on November 17, 1970 before his concert at the Coliseum. (Info from Paul Sweeny's site)

I was just curious as to the what height Elvis was? I have heard from several sites that Elvis was 6 feet tall exactly, this seems to be quite odd because if you look at the side of the picture you seem to see a height chart. I have put a red line by the six feet mark and Elvis is clearly shorter than six feet approx about 5' 9" - 5' 10" taking into account his hair line and angle of his head!!

Matt

Joe Car
04-12-2005, 04:50 AM
From various books that I read EP was 5'11.5" inches tall, half inch short of six feet.

Leroy
04-12-2005, 06:31 AM
How tall is that in meters?

Joe Car
04-12-2005, 06:41 AM
Using a conversion chart, it would be about 1.82 meters, which sounds about right given that a meter represents about 3.3 feet. Perhaps some of our European friends can verify if this calculation is about right, thanks in advance.

Elvisgirl
04-14-2005, 07:08 AM
you're right Joe Car. it's about 1.82 meters

Joe Car
04-15-2005, 04:34 AM
Hi elvisgirl, how you doing?

Cryogenic
04-15-2005, 05:05 AM
Here is some information from a Google newsgroup:

1) Bill Burk claims this of Elvis from his army induction photographs: "And in one he was being measured and you could DISTINCTLY see that he stood 5-11 3/4, which anyone would round off to 6-0 (or 180 cm)." Larry Geller, Ed Bonja and many others also claim Elvis was somewhere in the region of 5'11-1/2" to 5'11-3/4".

2) Here is a duplication of a framed list of measurements (supposedly hung in one of Elvis' homes). The first set of measurements listed were taken in March 1962 and the ones in parentheses were taken in January 1957 (all in inches) :

Top of hip to floor/pants 42
Neck 15 3/4 [15 1/2]
Chest 42 [42]
Waist 34 [32]
Sleeve 31 1/2 [31 1/2]
Inside Seam 17 1/2 [17 1/2]
Pant Inseam 31 1/2 [32]
Hat 7 1/4 [7 1/2]
Boot 11D [10]
Hips 41 1/2
Coat Length 29 1/2

3) Bill Belew claims a much smaller waist size (30") and that Elvis was a size 9 shoe. However, I'm not sure what year Belew is quoting his waist size from. I guess it's possible that Elvis had a 30" waist for the Comeback Special or Vegas 69... but I doubt it. Marty Lacker also refutes the shoe size and claimed that he and Richard Davis always bought size 10.5 boots for Elvis. He also says, "Granted he needed a little extra room for the lifts but not that much."

The source for all of this is: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.elvis.king/browse_thread/thread/df379122963761e/6f2302841ceab833?q=&rnum=19

Elvisgirl
04-15-2005, 06:14 AM
Hi elvisgirl, how you doing?
i'm fine thanx. and you?

Lonniebealestreet
04-15-2005, 06:33 AM
That photograph seeming to indicate he was that far under 6' is indeed strange, especially since I doubt he took off his boots for the photo. :hmm:

Cryogenic
04-15-2005, 06:35 AM
He's within an inch of 6' in the photo.

If, however, he didn't take off his boots... he could be as short as 5'9" (he often wore 2" lifts).

Too many sources corroborate him as between 5'11" and 6' however for me to doubt him as being anything but within those two figures.

T_J
04-15-2005, 08:49 PM
There's a peculiarity in the photo as Elvis most certainly wasn't a couple of inches shorter than 6 foot. I have army papers which have his height as 6 foot dead on. As they measured him, I'd expect them to put the correct height, unless he was a quarter of an inch under and they rounded it up. In any case, he was either 6 foot or so close to it that it was pointless mentioning the difference.

tcbtigerman
04-16-2005, 01:36 AM
Elvis was 5'11.I know that for a fact after being obsessed with that subject for some reason and since im friends with a lot of his inner circle i have asked that question plenty and i always get 5'11 but around 6'1 with his lifts.But that picture is kind of weird.In this picture it would make him a bit shorter.

Captain Elwood David
04-16-2005, 02:18 AM
EP stood just slightly under 6'.

Around 5' 11.75" (barefoot). Guys, that's rounded to 6'. Hence, the minor variations. With his lifts, he would easily hit 6' or slightly more.

He "appears" slightly smaller in the above pic, simply because he is hunching his back (JMO, Fwiw). More than likely, EP was "liftless" that day (pun intended).


- Capt. "EL."

T_J
04-16-2005, 02:40 AM
EP stood just slightly under 6'.

Around 5' 11.75" (barefoot). Guys, that's rounded to 6'. Hence, the minor variations. With his lifts, he would easily hit 6' or slightly more.

He "appears" slightly smaller in the above pic, simply because he is hunching his back (JMO, Fwiw). More than likely, EP was "liftless" that day (pun intended).


- Capt. "EL."

5' 11.75 is a very specific measurement to give. Where are you getting that from?

Albert
04-16-2005, 02:40 AM
I wish to believe that Elvis was 5'11'' or 6' (around 1m78 - 1m80), but pictures of him proof differently. Just look at Elvis in Blue Hawaii when he had no shoes on: he isn't that taller than the women.

If you take into account what the average height of the US male was around 1960-1977 and you have to see Elvis being taller than most men and way taller than women. In jumpsuits (with the high heels) this is the case, but not when he's barefoot of in public.

I don't have proof, but I would much easier belief that Elvis' height was around 5'9'' (1m73).

Cryogenic
04-16-2005, 05:26 AM
Well...

I'm 6'3 1/2" and I'd gladly trade those three and a half inches for a guarantee my hair stayed as thick for as long as it did for Elvis! :P

Cherokee
04-16-2005, 07:46 AM
Well, in my humble opinion for what it's worth;)

Absolutely: Elvis in no way was the 6'2" that some publications and some of his friends who have fallen prone to idealizing Elvis, not just to serve their memories of him, but his image to his fans, have put him at.

However, from the horse's mouth, before Elvis was really the ELVIS he has now become, the bigger than life legend, he told in more than one interview from 1954 through 1956 (all radio interviews) that he was 6 feet even. Now, that "even" may have been just to simplify things: saying "Aw shucks, well sir, I'm 5 feet eleven and three quarters of an inch tall" may have seemed too much of a bother.

As for Elvis' difference in height with the people around him, be it his cronies or his co-stars:
I always use the likes of Charlie "platform shoes" Hodge as an example to measure Elvis on stage. Elvis may have worn lifts, but Charlie in the end wore actual huge platform shoes. Take into consideration the height requirements of the American Army (as you all know Elvis met Charlie while in service) and take it from there...... I don't think the army took in 4'10" men in their service, did it?:blink: And how short is Joe Esposito?

Most of his female co-stars were average height girls, for sure, around 5'5" in bare feet. Ann Margret (in Come on Everybody) is wearing 4 or 5 inch stiletto heels and she at her peak was 5'5". Angela Lansbury who played his mom, despite being just 10 years his senior, was 5'9" in bare feet at her peak. Considering she was 35 in Blue Hawaii, I'd say that still qualifies her as being at her tallest. She wore 2 inch heels in most scenes with Elvis.....
I'd say 5'11" and a smidgen is quite accurate.....:hmm:

Captain Elwood David
04-16-2005, 07:08 PM
TJ -

I knows what I know.

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Generally speaking:

Questions are asked on various MB's. Answers are given.

Once given, ....... it either confirms what some want to hear ........ or not. That said, ...... sometimes people "resent" (ie: feel it is unfair in someway) that others know things they don't or cannot. At other times, everything is simply questioned by DEFAULT.

It gets tiring, is time consuming, & generally a waste of time.

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The question has been answered, ....... & answered correctly (by multiple posters).

For those that enjoy beating a dead horse (for lack of anything else better to do or whatever the reasons), please commence.


- Capt. "EL."

T_J
04-16-2005, 08:31 PM
Capt El, you seemed to take my question the wrong way. I wasn't doubting you. I was just interested in the answer as it was so specific that I figured we could finally put this issue to rest if you said the source.

As for the 5'9 theory, there's no way that's true. As already said, you only have to see the height he was against other people whose height we know to judge that he was truly close to 6 foot. If he was 5'9, Cilla was 5 foot, and we know from her biography she was 5'3 - 5'4. Sinatra is another example. He was 5'8 and Elvis was much taller than him.

Captain Elwood David
04-17-2005, 06:47 AM
Capt El, you seemed to take my question the wrong way. I wasn't doubting you. I was just interested in the answer as it was so specific that I figured we could finally put this issue to rest if you said the source.
Not taking it the wrong way, at all. Think about what you are saying. Yes, you are doubting. On that note, take it or leave it. It's not a big deal ---> this thread, the initial query, or the answer. Just taking the opportunity to point out one reason I sometimes find things futile - on a number of levels.


- Capt. "EL."

Albert
04-17-2005, 07:13 AM
Capt El, you seemed to take my question the wrong way. I wasn't doubting you. I was just interested in the answer as it was so specific that I figured we could finally put this issue to rest if you said the source.

As for the 5'9 theory, there's no way that's true. As already said, you only have to see the height he was against other people whose height we know to judge that he was truly close to 6 foot. If he was 5'9, Cilla was 5 foot, and we know from her biography she was 5'3 - 5'4. Sinatra is another example. He was 5'8 and Elvis was much taller than him.


The average male stands 5'9 tall (1m75). Taking into account that Elvis had lifts in his shoes and used big heels during the 70s, I don't think that he was larger than the average American.

Funny link: Celebs faking their height (http://www.geocities.com/bigheadedpygmies/)
"It's said Stallone stands between 5-feet-8 and 5-feet-10, which looks about right. While that's the average height of a grown man, it's apparently Lilliputian to spectators who want their screen heroes bigger than life"

Jumpsuit Junkie
04-17-2005, 07:36 AM
It's not a big deal ---> this thread, the initial query, or the answer. Just taking the opportunity to point out one reason I sometimes find things futile - on a number of levels. - Capt. "EL."

The initial query was intended to be light hearted and generate some discussion!

I don't understand, if you find it "futile - on a number of levels" why you participate?

If the thread is beneath you, then simply ignore it ;)

Matt

Captain Elwood David
04-17-2005, 09:22 AM
The initial query was intended to be light hearted and generate some discussion!
How much "discussion" can you have over a man's height?


I don't understand, if you find it "futile - on a number of levels" why you participate?
Well, as for me ----> Understood Jumpsuit Junkie.

To answer your question (again, ironically): ........ I participate ......

1. To be helpful & give you an answer (then & now).

2. So you don't moan later when / if you don't get participation / responses to your threads.

That said, ......... you're welcome.

Your query has been answered fully now, hasn't it.


If the thread is beneath you, then simply ignore it ;)

Matt
Your words (& personal issues ;) ) JJ, ........ not mine.

For your future reference, .......... will do exactly as you suggest.


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I rest my case. :)


- Capt. "EL."

Ramiro
04-18-2007, 02:26 AM
Elvis was measured scientifically in the army. The army records say that Elvis was 6' (183 cm) and at the time of his induction the information was precisely 6'0.5'' (184 cm) as if they rounded off 0.5'' in the rest of the army papers. Graceland Archives of EPE and Joe Esposito confirmed it and confirmed too that there is another measurement made in the army that states Elvis' height at 6'1 3/4'' (issue) and that would be his height with army footwear. In the worst of the cases, even if 6' were a rounded up figure, it should arrive from a minimum of 5'11 3/4''+ (182+ cm), because I've consulted U.S. army's method to take heights and they round heights to the nearest quarter of inch. So it's unquestionable that Elvis was somewhere very close to 6', up or down.

Supertigre
04-18-2007, 06:36 AM
I think we always think celebrties are bigger than they realy are.I ve met a couple and always been suprised that they don't look as tall as I thought they would. I'm sure Elvis was about 6' feet tall or there abouts but with his lifts and boots on and his hair combed back I bet he could push 6' feet3" inches.
When I went to Graceland I was suprised by how small Elvis's jumpsuits looked even the sundial suit.They seemed both small in height and girth which makes me think EP was'nt as overweight as people would want you to believe.:)

KPM
04-18-2007, 10:49 AM
There is a big debate at Celebheights.com concerning Elvis's height. According to some the Army records show Elvis 6'.05" in his bare feet at induction and the Army figures down to the nearest inch. Evidently celebheights.com had Elvis at 6'0" then downgraded him to 5'11" and 3/4. Many people were mad complaining the Armys induction figures should be the deciding factor since they had nothing to gain by inflating his height. Someone there has ordered a copy of his induction papers thru the freedom of information act and is waiting for them. 1/4 inch Controversy ha ha

Ramiro
04-20-2007, 04:45 AM
There is a big debate at Celebheights.com concerning Elvis's height. According to some the Army records show Elvis 6'.05" in his bare feet at induction and the Army figures down to the nearest inch. Evidently celebheights.com had Elvis at 6'0" then downgraded him to 5'11" and 3/4. Many people were mad complaining the Armys induction figures should be the deciding factor since they had nothing to gain by inflating his height. Someone there has ordered a copy of his induction papers thru the freedom of information act and is waiting for them. 1/4 inch Controversy ha ha

Yes, I'm the same Ramiro who discusses in that forum. And I've ordered a copy of his induction papers to solve the question for once and forever (if possible). I know that this is an almost stupid topic but once you get into it you're not calmed until you get the truth. Still I think that celebheights should maintain 6' for Elvis until otherwise is proved; and nothing has been proved about Elvis being measured in the army at 5' 11 3/4'', to the contrary, army's papers say 6' or even 6'0.5''. To assume that 6'0.5'' perhaps was with footwear (as celebheights do) is too much to assume. The statement made back then says nothing about 6'0.5'' being Elvis' height with footwear; if it were it would be a very pithy remark for the journalists who were there to say it. I think that army's measurements, if something, could be less than real and not vice versa.

TCBnAflash
04-20-2007, 05:14 AM
wow..he looks about 5'10 with out the high hair and that is with the lifts and boots.
I would also like to bring out how these rumors of his hight get around. The B.S ARMY file that The Colonel sent out to the media said, 6'2.
His own daughter lied on, Meet The "Presleys". She said, He was, 6'4. I almost died laughing when she said that. That wasn't well scripted for the,"Information Age".

Ramiro
04-30-2007, 05:24 AM
Perhaps the statement about Elvis being 6'2'' in the army comes from one of his measurements made in the army (issue) that put him at 6'1.75''. This measurement is the one made with army footwear. I don't remember Lisa Marie saying that Elvis was 6'4''. This statement was made for J.D. Sumner's daughter

Elvis 1972
04-30-2007, 12:30 PM
I've stood next to Elvis, and he looked pretty tall to me, mind you I'm only five foot two inches!!

T_J
05-01-2007, 07:43 PM
His own daughter lied on, Meet The "Presleys". She said, He was, 6'4. I almost died laughing when she said that. That wasn't well scripted for the,"Information Age".

She didn't say that at all. She said 6'2 and yes she was wrong :-)

Ramiro
05-03-2007, 02:24 AM
She didn't say that at all. She said 6'2 and yes she was wrong :-)

She was talking about approximate Elvis' height with footwear and from this point of view he wasn't that wrong.