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tcbtigerman
03-29-2005, 02:15 PM
Jonathan myers and Rose McGowan as Elvis and Ann-Margret!

SweetInspiration
03-29-2005, 05:41 PM
i think rose will make a great anne margret!

Albert
03-29-2005, 11:57 PM
She looks great as Ann Margret (well, even looks great as herself). But I always have a instant dislike for actors playing Elvis. I've always have the feeling that Elvis is portrayed one-dimensional with the trademarks remarks like "My boy, my boy" or "My momma alwats said" and moves like the swinging the hips 50s style (even while he's performing in Vegas), etc.

I can't help but feeling that the writers/actors don't have a clue about who Elvis was if you see painfully simple mistakes in movies and series like these.

Pieterpix
03-30-2005, 09:47 AM
wich one is Elvis :blink:

Steve
03-30-2005, 12:51 PM
wich one is Elvis :blink:

same here:blink:
I think he doesent look like Elvis...

Cherokee
04-17-2005, 10:55 AM
Don't know if these were posted yet:blush:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/50760d58.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/93a62469.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/24bd1c1b.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/1c25dacc.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/89da017b.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/55c3b442.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/5cedce18.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/c6e877c1.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/684ceceb.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/419318a2.jpg
Yep, going by this pint sized Elvis (next to Priscilla on the one hand and dwarfed by the Colonel on the other) I'm guessing in this series Elvis IS 5'9":rolleyes:

Pieterpix
04-17-2005, 12:25 PM
One Word ..... Terrible (n)

JohanD
04-17-2005, 12:29 PM
One Word ..... Terrible (n)

Exactly my thougts...

He has nothing of his looks,charisma,anything at all...

Typical EPE subject...:hmm:

pacer1965
04-17-2005, 01:40 PM
Hi Cherokee
After seeing them pic's you just posted
it has put me off watching this mini series:'(

Cherokee
04-17-2005, 01:52 PM
Hi Cherokee
After seeing them pic's you just posted
it has put me off watching this mini series:'(

Uh-oh:oops: Are ya thankin' me or blamin' me?;) :D

Steve
04-17-2005, 02:14 PM
I guess this is the only pic. he looks a bit like Elvis


http://www.cbs.com/specials/elvis/images/spe_elvis_hp_big_elvis.jpg

pacer1965
04-17-2005, 02:25 PM
Uh-oh:oops: Are ya thankin' me or blamin' me?;) :D

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: thank you

pacer1965
04-17-2005, 02:34 PM
I guess this is the only pic. he looks a bit like Elvis


http://www.cbs.com/specials/elvis/images/spe_elvis_hp_big_elvis.jpg
Probably because this pic is darker Steve

MysteryTrain
04-17-2005, 04:06 PM
She looks great as Ann Margret (well, even looks great as herself). But I always have a instant dislike for actors playing Elvis. I've always have the feeling that Elvis is portrayed one-dimensional with the trademarks remarks like "My boy, my boy" or "My momma alwats said" and moves like the swinging the hips 50s style (even while he's performing in Vegas), etc.

I can't help but feeling that the writers/actors don't have a clue about who Elvis was if you see painfully simple mistakes in movies and series like these.

i feel just he way you do. But there is one thing worse than all those remarks. it's when they try to laughe like Elvis. i can't stand it. i have not seen this serie so i should not complain, but when i hear actors and imersinators try to lughe like Elvis, it wakes the deamon inside me:angry: . they sound more like a drunken sailor than Elvis.

But ill wait before i judge this serie.

Cherokee
04-17-2005, 04:17 PM
Because of the great success:P , here?s more to enjoy!:lmfao:



http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/ee504a7b.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/cb8676d7.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/a6d6ca35.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/b535a560.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/6333f74a.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/83c33e4f.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/33b75c1b.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/463994af.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/100083a0.jpg

Couldn't they give this midget some of Elvis' lifts to use?:P :lmfao:

Cryogenic
04-17-2005, 06:03 PM
I can't help but feeling that the writers/actors don't have a clue about who Elvis was if you see painfully simple mistakes in movies and series like these.

And worse yet, they sometimes embellish his life story ON PURPOSE. An Elvis film made in the early 80s featured Elvis continually obsessing over Jesse (and possibly visiting his grave) simply because the makers wanted to over-dramatise the narrative and have a recurring motif. Never mind the fact that it was a complete fabrication on their behalf and they were fully aware of it.

One thing (amongst many) that disturbs me about the posted images is how dull and lifeless they are. The photo by Steve is very misleading; it looks glorious whereas the rest are pretty abysmal. These pictures only look two or three degrees removed from candid family photographs you or I might take. I'm not sure what the budget allowed so the comparison may be somewhat unfair but "Ray" (the seminal movie made about the life of fellow musical icon Ray Charles) kicks this Elvis production all over the ballpark; it has beautiful photography that is truly evocative of the period(s) being documented, the personality of Ray himself and the rich, colourful music he made. The line between TV movies and full-blown films is very blurred these days so I'm willing to bet more - MUCH more - could have been attempted and done. Yet Elvis gets shafted again! Totally incongruous but typical, isn't it?


Couldn't they give this midget some of Elvis' lifts to use?

Before worring about that, I'd be deeply concerned about his hair: WHY THE HELL IS IT BROWN AND NOT JET BLACK???? EP's hair colour has got to be one of his most prominent features and one of the simplest things to get right - yet the makers of this thing have even screwed that up! Without his jetblack hair - which visually connotes an ethereal beauty as well as sharpy contrasting his face - Elvis loses more than words can describe! There's a difference between humanising the man and misrepresenting him to the point of absurd banality and outright blasphemy.

Again, there's another very significant flaw with this mini series: It ends at 1968. Someone should really have told the makers that the man actually lived another nine years! How else could Priscilla have divorced him and made her millions? Again, they screw up on something INCREDIBLY simple!

(P.S. Note the hugely ironic jab of my last remark - directly squarely at Priscilla and EPE).

One area where the mini series could triumph - the ONE thing that will make or break it when all is said and done - is the human element. If the approach to the direction and the acting is done in just the right way, then this thing might still have something to offer. The mini series does, after all, have some incredibly good actors in its fold. Other than that, however, I'm not seeing/hearing anything to be even moderately impressed about.

One final thing: The actress portraying Priscilla doesn't really cut it in the wedding photos. Priscilla looked fantastically gorgeous in the REAL wedding pics; well and truly STUNNING. Suffice it to say that her "ambassador" doesn't come anywhere near. I find it rather odd, too - she looks a **** sight better in the photograph of Elvis greetings fans in his army uniform. Oddly, Rhys-Meyers himself suffers there in comparison to his appearance in other pictures where he looks reasonably believable; unlike Elvis who looked amazing in his army uniform, Rhys-Meyers looks ape-ish and unconvincing (check out the chunky ears and goofy smile). At least the actress in the guise of Ann Margaret looks truly gobsmacking; the word "gorgeous" doesn't even begin to describe her.

curtis simpkins
04-17-2005, 07:25 PM
Have any of you see rose on tv series charmed.
i think on the 5th year of the show she sang "Fever'
and did very well on it.

Cryogenic
04-17-2005, 08:15 PM
Another thing I should say...

Having read the synopsis which went up a few days ago, it sounds like they've well and truly villified the Colonel. I'm sure it'll go down very well with most fans but it hardly seems like a fair or accurate picture of the man. Further, by focusing so intently on how Elvis allowed his life to be pushed and pulled by a single man, they're also trivialising his relationship with the Colonel and saying something profoundly negative about Elvis. While it is evident that the Colonel made some poor decisions and had a detrimental effect on Elvis' life and career, a lot of blame must also go to Elvis for his own passivity/lethargy. Let's not kid ourselves here... Elvis may not have been happy making fluffy movies for most of the 60s and he may not have been happy that some of his most beautiful studio work ("Tomorrow Is A Long Time", "Down In The Alley" and "I'll Remember You") were all slapped on a tacky film soundtrack album BUT... what did he do to stop it? Not a lot. I'm sure he had NO problems with the salaries the Colonel negotiated for him or the countless larking about on set or the women that came his way, either.

Then I cast my mind back to the exchange I read and commented upon between Elvis and Steve Binder. And then I AGAIN think of the fact that the story ends at 1968. This mini series sounds like it's taken all the easy answers and not even tried for anything of real susbtance.

carolynlm
04-18-2005, 04:19 AM
I really hope we don't get the series here, it doesn't look too good, does it? It seems to me that the producers are doing this movie on the cheap. Everything looks so 'cheesy'. A second grade movie, the only thing certain about it is they seem to be following tom parkers lead in making something using the least amount of money possible. I can see us having to 'go into bat' for Elvis once again, the non fans are going to have a field day with this rubbish.

Lildarling
04-18-2005, 06:42 AM
Bout the hair-I was wondering bout it when I was watching This is Elvis as well- the guy had too long hair-tooo brown, in one word saying-it's way too stupid not to say more to try to play Elvis(whereas talkin bout THIS is Elvis-the actor that played 70's El was quite ok (minus voice of course-I hate that smb wants to sound like Him....)

Pieterpix
04-18-2005, 09:03 AM
I think the name Getty Images is pretty cool :lol:

WildStyle
04-21-2005, 08:23 AM
Well, I don't know what you guys were expecting. I dare any of you to find a guy that looks and sounds like Elvis. Now if you somehow manage to pull that off... can they act? I'm waiting until I actually watch the show to pass judgement.

Oh, and this will only give Elvis new fans regardless of how inacurate it may be. That can only be a good thing.

U.S. Male
04-21-2005, 03:00 PM
Personally, I am still a bit miffed that they didn't address any of his life during the 70's. Still some signifigant moments during this decade they could have show cased (ex: Aloha From Hawaii, Madison Square Garden, New Years Eve 75, etc).

It just bugs me when these movie people make out that Elvis' career ended in 1968 - they need to know that it did not!

buttonhead
04-21-2005, 03:10 PM
... that hair line still bug the hell out off me... :doh:

ph10579
04-22-2005, 01:00 AM
Yeah I don't get it, If this is about Elvis' life then this Mini-series should take you from January 1935- August 16, 1977. And would there would probably consist of about 4 parts instead of just 2. And would show everything about Elvis, goodtimes and bad. Through Thin and Thick:king: ! And would also show the viewers Elvis' very successful tours of the 70's,Elvis in concert, and Elvis in Vegas!!!

Cryogenic
04-22-2005, 04:45 AM
And therein lies the rub: It's about the Elvis that EPE wants you to know.

nabelt24
04-22-2005, 10:12 AM
If anyone should make another film about Elvis, I think Ernst Mikael Jorgenson (producer of Elvis' remastered recordings) and Peter Guralnick (author of 'Last Train to Memphis' and 'Carless Love') should take the reins. I'm shure you all know who they are and I think that there's no one more qualified than those guys.

I still say that we should give CBS and Jonathan Rhys Meyers a chance untill after the film debuts. Than (if not satisfied) we should rip them to shreads!

Cherokee
04-29-2005, 05:00 AM
:rolleyes: Rolling my eyes big time here. As you can tell from the following link, even the lead players have NO idea what the real story was and are just uttering info that was fed to them, like it's the gospel. Sheesh. So darned annoying.
http://et.tv.yahoo.com/tv/2005/04/29/elvisminiseries_wedding/

Don't forget to click the video link.
And again: the ****ed hairline and the ****ed lack of height as compared to petite Priscilla and the Colonel who was about the same height as E.......(n)

Cryogenic
04-29-2005, 02:08 PM
The insights, as they appear in print in the article, seem pretty accurate to me. But all my other reservations still stand. Just look at the three pictures included. Rhys Meyers isn't smiling in ANY of them!!!

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/et.tv.yahoo.com/lib/images/celebs/2005/04/28/163_jrmeyers_elvis_050428_cbs.jpg

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/et.tv.yahoo.com/lib/images/celebs/2005/04/28/163_jrmeyers2_elvis_050428_cbs.jpg

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/et.tv.yahoo.com/lib/images/tv/2005/04/18/163_jrmeyers_parents_elvis_050418_cbs.jpg

He looks quite ridiculous in the last one. Anyone would think that the whole of Elvis' life sucked and that he wallowed in self pity and looked ready to knock someone out 24/7.

Diane
04-29-2005, 02:24 PM
She looks great as Ann Margret (well, even looks great as herself). But I always have a instant dislike for actors playing Elvis. I've always have the feeling that Elvis is portrayed one-dimensional with the trademarks remarks like "My boy, my boy" or "My momma alwats said" and moves like the swinging the hips 50s style (even while he's performing in Vegas), etc.

I can't help but feeling that the writers/actors don't have a clue about who Elvis was if you see painfully simple mistakes in movies and series like these.


I'm brand new here and no idea what I'm doing, never been on a chat site etc. but this quote from Albert struck me as one of the truest things said about Elvis in a long time.

Going to go a bit farther and wonder if any of Elvis' entourage knew what Elvis was about either? Diane

Sattnin
04-29-2005, 04:54 PM
I don't know what to think here.:hmm: In some of the pics he sort of looks like him, but in others he doesn't look a thing at all like him. :huh:

michu
04-29-2005, 05:07 PM
Lets make one thing clear:NO ONE Will Ever look like Elvis!

nabelt24
04-29-2005, 05:39 PM
They broke the mold, Baby!!!!

ComeBackChick
04-30-2005, 01:17 PM
Here are some more pics (10) of the series!!

http://entertainment.msn.com/photos/gallery.aspx?gallery=7911

http://entimg.msn.com/i/gal/Elvis_CBS/93459_D05371_273x400.jpg

Cryogenic
04-30-2005, 05:15 PM
**** is she hot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

eileen
04-30-2005, 11:14 PM
There are a number of things in the clips that really bother me, however one thing about the miniseries that does NOT bother me at all is that it ends in 1968. I would be hard pressed to find anyone beyond age 10 who doesn't already know of the bloating, slurring, depressed, drug-dependent-dies-in-the-can Elvis. And what else do they know about him? That he was only famous because he "stole black music" or "was created by music industry focus groups" or "had a low iq and was illiterate but had a good voice"

If this miniseries sufficiently illuminates anything that happened PRIOR to the 70s we'll be ahead of where we are now.

Eileen

tcbtigerman
05-01-2005, 11:51 AM
I dont know about the low iq thing.He was definately not illiterate either.I think thats something you made up.Being a friend of people that either worked for Elvis or met him ive always heard and its well known that he was always thirsty for knowledge about all kinds of things and read a lot.He had lockers full of books about everything that you could possibly think of.Therefore he was a fairly intelligent man that had quite a bit of knowledge about pretty much any topic you could throw at him.

eileen
05-01-2005, 01:17 PM
I dont know about the low iq thing.He was definately not illiterate either.I think thats something you made up.
<sigh> I don't believe any of those things.

Do you mean to imply that you believe he "stole black music" and "was created by music industry focus groups" then?

:blink:

Eileen

Teddybear
05-01-2005, 01:43 PM
THANKS FOR THE PHOTOS, I'M NOT SURE HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT,BUT WILL WATCH IT AND THEN POST MY FEELING'S. HE REALLY DOESN'T LOOK TO MUCH LIKE ELVIS AT ALL, AND I HAVE SEEN SOME CLIP'S OF IT AND HAVE ALREADY PICKED UP ON SOME MISTAKES. :mad: YOU WOULD THINK THEY COULD GET IT RIGHT.OH WELL WILL WAIT AND SEE.

Cryogenic
05-01-2005, 01:53 PM
There are a number of things in the clips that really bother me, however one thing about the miniseries that does NOT bother me at all is that it ends in 1968. I would be hard pressed to find anyone beyond age 10 who doesn't already know of the bloating, slurring, depressed, drug-dependent-dies-in-the-can Elvis. And what else do they know about him? That he was only famous because he "stole black music" or "was created by music industry focus groups" or "had a low iq and was illiterate but had a good voice"

If this miniseries sufficiently illuminates anything that happened PRIOR to the 70s we'll be ahead of where we are now.

Congratulations!

You are now qualified to work for EPE.

Albert
05-04-2005, 02:22 AM
Here are some more pics (10) of the series!!

http://entertainment.msn.com/photos/gallery.aspx?gallery=7911

http://entimg.msn.com/i/gal/Elvis_CBS/93459_D05371_273x400.jpg

Looks pretty good:

Lonniebealestreet
05-04-2005, 06:15 AM
Ya think? :P

;)

Cryogenic
05-04-2005, 06:17 AM
What I wouldn't put between those lips!!!!

OK, that was naughty of me. Sorry! :lol: :lol: :lol:

JerryNodak
05-05-2005, 03:47 AM
Cryogenic: Be careful. Be very, very careful. I once suggested on another mb that Elvis should bear at least some of the blame for career "mistakes". Omigod!! It's not politically
correct to blame Elvis for anything. It's ALL the Colonel's fault. The bad, old "Colonel".

Cryogenic
05-05-2005, 10:57 AM
LOL!

I see that a lot, too.

But - on the whole - this message board is more open minded and reasonable.

Cherokee
05-07-2005, 08:48 AM
Having watched the newly added video clips, I must say that the scene where Elvis and
Pris first meet sucked big time for more than one reason. I found myself actually liking
the, almost ver batim the same, scene from the horrible "Elvis and Me" much better, the
way it was acted......:blink:

Granted, Midkiff looked nothing like Elvis, except for his posture and build and Elvis was
portrayed pretty much as a psychopath in that Beaulieu version of the truth, but Susan Walters
who played Pris bore the biggest resemblance to Beaulieu so far.....

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/063f29e8.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/55c3b442.jpghttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/3e2b1923.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/463994af.jpghttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/8f5b05c8.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/bf8c5a90.jpghttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/26c2c999.jpg

Lonniebealestreet
05-07-2005, 08:57 AM
Thanks for the great comparison shots, Jackie. I completely agree, on all points.

EP4MEUK
05-07-2005, 11:58 AM
I agree Susan Walters was a good resemblence to Priscilla but why do they keep casting these actors that bare no resemblence to Elvis what so ever. I mean although you could say at times they have got it right but that is all down to lighting and effects.Why do they have to keep remaking these programmes too!!!! one was more than enough to stomach with out having to make yet another for it and its cast to be slatted again. If it had been me making the choice I would have to pick the actor Dermot Mulroney like all the others not a perfect match but he as the charisma and that smile :notworthy I have posted a few pics here ....see what you think.

love and peace,
Susan.

EP4MEUK
05-07-2005, 12:18 PM
Ok here is one more remember the smile :P

Cherokee
05-07-2005, 12:39 PM
Ok here is one more remember the smile :P

Uuuuhm, nope, can't see it (n)

tcbtigerman
05-07-2005, 02:54 PM
Heres a picture of Jonathan in which he resembles E.P quite a bit!Dermot Mulroney?,lol C'mon now,ha ha ha: T

Cryogenic
05-08-2005, 02:46 AM
Aside from the faulty hair colouring, I have no problems with Jonathan Rhys Meyers' look as Elvis. He may very well be the most faithful-looking live-action-drama Elvis performer ever! Really, he's a very good choice physically. But his acting style hasn't bowled me over in the clips...

Cherokee
05-08-2005, 04:59 PM
Uh-oh:blink: :hmm:


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/1e9725bd.jpghttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/fe060b27.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/3183437b.jpghttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/c5885cdc.jpg

Cryogenic
05-09-2005, 01:13 AM
POSITIVES

The background logo and framing is EXCELLENT. The coat looks like an exact match, too.

NEGATIVES

Why, oh why, is Rhys Meyers' cravate blooming out of his lapelles? He looks like Liberace.

The microphone doesn't match, either. It looks like one of those "A1" mikes that Elvis was using during the Sitdown sessions. When he was performing the stand-up sequences and the "If I Can Dream" segment, he was clearly using a different kind with a more bulbous pick-up head/wind shield. Details like this go a long way.

Jonathan Rhys Meyers also looks quite the pale fellow. Although the shots of him and the real Elvis don't match colour/contrast wise and no one would expect them to (60's crappy video technology vs modern high definition video/35mm film), you can tell Elvis had a tan. Rhys Meyers looks almost ill by comparison.

Rhys Meyers hair also leaves something to be desired. Again, it's more of a dark brown than a jet black. It also looks quite stringy and flimsy on top compared to Elvis' super solid, super slicked mound.

NEUTRAL/RESERVING JUDGEMENT

This category exists for one reason and one reason only: It's a very brave performer who steps into Elvis' shoes and attempts to emulate the supernatural energy Elvis appeared to be tapping when he performed "If I Can Dream". I'll have to wait for the full motion performance before I can really say whether it's a worthy imitation. That said, Rhys Meyers looks like he just remembered he left the oven on in the top pic, and in the bottom, he's evidently chewing a wasp.

Captain Elwood David
05-09-2005, 01:42 AM
Why, oh why, is Rhys Meyers' cravate blooming out of his lapelles? He looks like Liberace.

Jonathan Rhys Meyers also looks quite the pale fellow. ........ Rhys Meyers looks almost ill by comparison.

This category exists for one reason and one reason only: It's a very brave performer who steps into Elvis' shoes and attempts to emulate the supernatural energy Elvis appeared to be tapping when he performed "If I Can Dream". I'll have to wait for the full motion performance before I can really say whether it's a worthy imitation. That said, Rhys Meyers looks like he just remembered he left the oven on in the top pic, and in the bottom, he's evidently chewing a wasp.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... !!

Cryo, .......... can't wait to see the "If I Can Dream" Windmill technique ......... (I'll probably be busting a gut .... :lmfao: ) .......

------------------------------

Thanks for the pics., ......... ALL. Nice hearty laughs all around .............. oh my sides hurt !! :lol: LOL!!



- Capt. "EL."

Cryogenic
05-09-2005, 02:48 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... !!

Cryo, .......... can't wait to see the "If I Can Dream" Windmill technique ......... (I'll probably be busting a gut .... :lmfao: ) .......


Oh... I CAN wait, believe you me. ;)
It'll probably look like he's waving off a fart. :doh:

It'll be an interesting new take on the entire "If I Can Dream" sequence, actually - from an impassioned plea about brotherhood and unity to bowel problems and dealing with one's gastric output. I can just picture it now: "Strong winds of promise that will blow away..."

Ah!!!! I've said too much. You'll never watch that part of the Comeback Special the same way again!

Captain Elwood David
05-09-2005, 04:54 AM
:lmfao: LOL!!

--------------------------


- Capt. "EL."

PS - The Ann-M. wanna-be ---------> frightens me.

Lonniebealestreet
05-10-2005, 07:34 AM
Captain, I won't address that last comment except to say that I am aghast...And perhaps she frightens you because she plays a witch on TV? ;)

Something I don't get is why they didn't just decide to use more actual footage, particularly on these Comeback segments which we saw a few brief glimpses of on promos for part 2. I guess they wanted to keep that stuff to a minimum for consistency's sake (you don't want to suspend your disbelief and accept JR-M as Elvis, and keep turning that off again and on again...not that I am anyway), and then it becomes an issue of where to draw the line on how much actual footage to use and which scenes to recreate when footage of the real thing exists...

But personally, to see them having gone to pretty good lengths to recreate at least the sit-down sessions and If I Can Dream, to try to make it look as authentic as possible, only to have a guy who can't lipsync too well be the image we see as we hear the real thing...seems to me like a wasted effort.

I'm not saying that this miniseries should have been done in the style of This Is Elvis, but I think it would have been nice to see the actor throughout the show and then have the grand finale be Elvis Himselvis singing If I Can Dream--if the story had to end in '68. It would have been so much more impressive...It would have been saying, thanks for playing along all this time and buying into this guy being Elvis, and for your patience you are being rewarded with the real deal...And this will make you appreciate Elvis all the more, going from an actor to the icon in a most impassioned performance that undoubtedly will move nearly all who see it. Sort of like the man behind the curtain coming out.

Instead, we'll probably sit back and laugh at a malfunctioning 'windmill'.


By the way, overall I am impressed with the show. I went into it with low expectations, planning to be disappointed, and though it did disappoint on some levels, overall it's a nice effort. Let's face it: JR-M was doomed to fail. Anyone in that role would, regardless of how good a job they actually did. As long as there are people like us who have seen the real footage of things being recreated, who know the way he actually sounded when he talked, etc., we will always have that authentic roll of film or tape rolling in our heads at the same time that we're watching the show. The two will never match up just right, so it can never totally work for us. Aside from that aspect, I didn't have a problem with most of the liberties the producers took, and realistically there was no way they could devote all the needed time to all the different aspects of his personality or this relationship or that dynamic. All in all, a respectable production.

Captain Elwood David
05-10-2005, 09:27 AM
Captain, I won't address that last comment except to say that I am aghast...And perhaps she frightens you because she plays a witch on TV? ;)
To quote ol' Frankie Sinatra:

"The Lady Is A Tramp." (..... at least in that photo above ......) ;) :lmfao:

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All these photos still crack-me-up ..... !!

(PS - Is Midkiff's hair growing all the way down his face, neck, & back ...... in that 70's jumpsuit pic.? I didn't know EP wore such pajama jumpsuits to bed either).

...... hahahahahahaha !! ...............

(You really can't make this kind of stuff up.)


- Capt. "EL."

charlie rodgers
05-10-2005, 10:02 AM
lonnie you wrote

" it would have been nice to see the actor throughout the show and then have the grand finale be Elvis Himselvis singing If I Can Dream--if the story had to end in '68. It would have been so much more impressive...It would have been saying, thanks for playing along all this time and buying into this guy being Elvis, and for your patience you are being rewarded with the real deal...And this will make you appreciate Elvis all the more, going from an actor to the icon in a most impassioned performance that undoubtedly will move nearly all who see it. Sort of like the man behind the curtain coming out.":cool:



i havent seen the show myself only the clips on the net, but that idea of yours sound just slendid that really is the way their should have done it what a great way to have ended it.
exept the best way was offcause was to have done the 70?s.but if the reviews and ratings are good maybe their will be a part 2 in the future,covering the fantastisk 70?s.
but then again that would maybe not be such a good idea if it aint done with a lot off love and care and understanding of the person that was elvis ,im fearing that their will only show the down side of the 70?s elvis ,and yes their was many down periods but in my opinion the good periods easely outwight the bad.

but then again their can keep their miniserie and just give me a on tour and ttwii dvd box sets.(if i can dream)and I be one happy fellow.

Lonniebealestreet
05-10-2005, 03:17 PM
Captain, that photo has friends...all over the net. (My search had good intentions; the results were something else.) Are you all familiar with that see-through dress she wore to the MTV Music Awards?

:jawdrop:

"That's a pretty piece of material. You should have a dress made out of it." Actually, that doesn't really fit. It's like she was wearing some kind of loose netting. I saw that some time ago.

Despite my appreciation for the eye candy, it will be unfortunate if, as someone else mentioned, Ann is portrayed as some home-wrecking temptress. Isn't it true that she didn't know about Priscilla for quite some time, maybe even not until after the sizzle became a fizzle?

The girl is out there, for sure. Among other things, she is or was engaged to Marilyn Manson, for crying out loud.


Charlie, glad you liked my idea. Oh well, we'll see how it goes.

Albert
05-10-2005, 03:34 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/063f29e8.jpg

I really liked her as Priscilla, but I love her for that Seinfeld episode (Mulva)

http://edition.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/seinfeld/video/mulva.jpg

:lmfao:

Lonniebealestreet
05-10-2005, 08:05 PM
Yep!

"You don't know my name, do you?"

Captain Elwood David
05-11-2005, 06:45 AM
Captain, that photo has friends...all over the net.

Are you all familiar with that see-through dress she wore to the MTV Music Awards?

"That's a pretty piece of material. You should have a dress made out of it." Actually, that doesn't really fit. It's like she was wearing some kind of loose netting. I saw that some time ago.
Lonnie, ........ I've located the pics. of which you speak:

Like I said, ........... take it Frank .........


"That’s why the lady is a tramp ...." ;) :lol:

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- Capt. "EL."

Cryogenic
05-11-2005, 07:40 AM
Where can I get those????

*drools*

:D

Lonniebealestreet
05-11-2005, 07:49 AM
When I typed the above I hadn't seen shots of her in that dress in a while, so I looked it up again myself. Somehow I had actually forgotten just how outrageous it was, and that it wasn't like a net but more like a few black strings draped over her body. Good golly, Miss McGowan.

Albert
05-12-2005, 04:49 AM
When I typed the above I hadn't seen shots of her in that dress in a while, so I looked it up again myself. Somehow I had actually forgotten just how outrageous it was, and that it wasn't like a net but more like a few black strings draped over her body. Good golly, Miss McGowan.


Which photos do you mean? :D

Cherokee
05-12-2005, 05:29 AM
Which photos do you mean? :D

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Cherokee01/a4dcdb7e.jpg

Lonniebealestreet
05-12-2005, 06:23 AM
Well, if I must...

(Cryo, have a second look.;))

Cryogenic
05-12-2005, 08:49 AM
MMMM!!!!! :D

I think Capt El is ultimately right, though...

The lady is a tramp! (And a vamp ;) )

Lonniebealestreet
05-12-2005, 10:27 AM
No claims to the contrary coming from me. I just know I like what I see, I see what I like and it gives me such a...uh, nevermind. Relax, people. I'm just singing a song.

:lol:

Cryogenic
05-12-2005, 02:07 PM
:lmfao:

Singing a song... taming your dong...

OK.... whoops. :D

Captain Elwood David
05-12-2005, 05:32 PM
Would that "song" be Chuck Berry's ...... "My Ding-a-ling" .... ??


- Capt. "EL."

Lonniebealestreet
05-12-2005, 08:50 PM
See, that shows how you think. I wouldn't say that. They'll cut that out. They won't leave it in. You can't say "ding-a-ling" on this messageboard...:P

Captain Elwood David
05-12-2005, 09:24 PM
Lonnie is right, ... as Moderators we now "Officially" "slap a big fat X-Rating" on this entire thread & our "big mouths".

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Please excuse our digression, ......... I guess we are all just a bunch of "Ding-a-lings." (See Lonnie, you took it out of context ......... ;) ) . :lmfao:


- Capt. "EL."

Cryogenic
05-13-2005, 03:41 AM
Pardon my randomly inserted dong. My randomly inserted dong COMMENT! :D

Captain Elwood David
05-13-2005, 05:41 AM
Pardon my randomly inserted dong. My randomly inserted dong COMMENT! :D
Cryo, I knew what you meant. You meant Lonnie was fixing his doorbell, ........... that's all.

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Take it ............ Chuck:

"My Ding-A-Ling-A-Ling

When I was a little biddy boy
My grandma bought me a cute little toy
Two Silver bells on a string
She told me it was my ding-a-ling-a-ling

My Ding-A-Ling My Ding-A-Ling won't you play with My Ding-A-Ling
My Ding-A-Ling My Ding-A-Ling won't you play with My Ding-A-Ling

When I was little boy In Grammar school
Always went by the very best rule
But Evertime the bell would ring
You'd catch me playing with my ding-a-ling

Once while climbing the garden wall,
Slipped and fell had a very bad fall
I fell so hard I heard birds sing,
But I held on to My ding-a-ling

Once while swimming cross turtle creek
Man them snappers right at my feet
Sure was hard swimming cross that thing
with both hands holding my dingaling

Now this here song it ain't so bad
Prettiest little song that you ever had
And those of you who will not sing
must be playing with your own Ding-a-ling."

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Next up: Elvis & Ann M. (aka; Myers & McGowan) with:

"C'Mon Everybody .. !!"


:lmfao: ........... LOL !! ................



- Capt. "EL."

Lonniebealestreet
05-13-2005, 06:29 AM
Captain, I'm just disappointed that you would acknowledge the song that kept Burning Love out of the #1 Billboard chart position.

Cryo, I would advise against random insertion...for a number of reasons.

Cryogenic
05-13-2005, 08:37 AM
:lmfao:

So would I, Lonnie, so would I.

Lonniebealestreet
05-13-2005, 01:44 PM
Next up: Elvis & Ann M. (aka; Myers & McGowan) with:

"C'Mon Everybody .. !!"


:lmfao: ........... LOL !! ................

Word is from an insider on the set that they tried that and only after wasting a cool million in studio time did the powers that be decide to drop it. So they jumped right into filming the '68 Special performances, where they knew the lipsync master would shine.

(Slight delayed reaction there...It didn't click before for whatever reason, but I just got a visual image of such a scene. Yikes!)

Captain Elwood David
05-13-2005, 04:24 PM
EPE shot itself in the foot with this mini-series & will never outright admit it.

Let's face it, sometimes they get it right, sometimes they don't. This is definitely a very high profile example of the latter.

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I've never understood the fascination that some have with recreations / imposters / etc. ---------> give me the real EP & let the music speak for itself.

Whenever that is done, .... EPE really doesn't have to do too much more - because the rest happens naturally.


- Capt. "EL."

PS - Give me an "E" ............. give me an "I" .............. give me a "C" ............. rah! rah! rah! ........ :D

JMO, but yet another example of EPE with its head up its own posterior, obscuring its vision.

Cryogenic
05-13-2005, 07:03 PM
From an artistic perspective, I entirely agree. This mini series has always looked and sounded like an abomination to me.

But from EPE's perspective, it's probably been a success.

As I gather, it acquired a respectable - albeit not stunning - viewership. Most of the reviews from what strike me as casual or non-Elvis fans have been generally positive.

Personally, I find it sad when people make ill-informed sweeping comments pertaining to the mini series' greatness. I may not have seen it yet but I'm still in a position, I feel, to make certain value judgements. Since when, for example, does not even getting the colour of an icon's equally iconic hair right make for even respectability, let alone greatness? And what about Rhys Meyers' accent; it didn't sound very authentic to me. In spite of these two glaring incongruities alone (lumped on top of numerous others), many people are saying he sounded JUST like Elvis and that the mini series was a strong effort. I really hate it when people who write these reviews prove, just by making the comments they do, that they aren't really fans at all. A brief study of actual footage where Elvis can be seen singing, dancing, talking, entertaining and plain "being Elvis" is all one needs to do to get a clearer picture of the man's appearance, his demeanour, his attitude and yes, the specific sound and texture of his voice. "Sounds like Elvis", "moves like Elvis", "walks like Elvis", "talks like Elvis" - pull the other one!

So many people in this world need to open their eyes and look around! We live in a complex and subtly shaded universe. Yet when people go spewing poorly formed opinions as FACT and more people follow suit, MYTH is created and spread. That, in turn, makes it harder for those that desire it to seek the truth. Human progress is founded on people who seek their own truths by putting myth aside and penetrating reality. I just wish there more of them about...

Lonniebealestreet
05-13-2005, 10:53 PM
Well said.

The bottom line here as I see it is that the amount of enjoyment you derive out of a special like this and the degree to which you buy into it and think the actor 'nailed' it, is directly proportional to how little you actually know about the man or how unfamiliar you are.

If what the actor is doing is not intrinsically flawed (not to say it wasn't at times) and you don't know any better because you don't have the real thing to compare it to thanks to your DVDs, CDs, books, TCB-World ;), etc., then you have a much better chance of fully enjoying such a program.

I don't like to be judgmental, but hardcore fans who give this special two thumbs up without reservation have got to be a little nuts...not that there's anything wrong with that. :lol: I seriously doubt there are many anyway.



Oh yeah...E! :clap: I! :clap: C! :clap:

Cryogenic
05-14-2005, 09:40 AM
If they'd welded EIC onto the end of the mini series, then it would automatically have been the greatest Elvis story of all time! :D

(Well, after Bubba Ho-Tep, of course... :P )

Wendy56
07-03-2005, 02:26 AM
I don't know about you dear Elvis fans, but I like more that serie from the 90s. named Elvis with Michael St. Gerard as the king. That one was REALLY good! and had a nice cast.
About the CBS production, well, Rose McGowan looks great, and... I guess she's one of the few good "things" of the new serie.

Redroo
07-16-2005, 09:23 PM
I guess this is the only pic. he looks a bit like Elvis


http://www.cbs.com/specials/elvis/images/spe_elvis_hp_big_elvis.jpg
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