EPE's reaction on my request TOTP bbc

[Elvos]

This is wat I wrote to EPE!


First of all congratulations on Elvis's 20th #1 record in the U.K.
It is really fantastic and as you know it is the 1000th #1 in U.K. history.So that means more free publicity!All fine with that..But I was really dissapointed to see that there was no videoclip to be aired.. on Top of The Pops One of the leading chartshows ..I mean Jailhouse Rock!!! It's the first real videoclip(from the movie)in music!It would shock the young children who were watching to see and reallise what they've all been missing , and the answer to ..Why was (and is)he called "The King of Rock and Roll"?
The presenter of the show told: The Elvis estate would not let us air any footage? Can't believe that!
I shure hope that you can think of something for one night...like from the 68 show ..en then overdubbed with the original One Night single version...Please don't let the European fans down! We did our best to get Elvis on the top of the charts again(where he belongs) Please do something for the european fans in return ..Elvis is up to his biggest comeback ever!! Please don't let HIM down...
Take GOOD care of buisiness...

Very friendly greetings to you all. :notworthy
Ren? Vos The Netherlands And this is their reaction:This message is being sent out in response to all who e-mailed
Graceland/EPE regarding our not licensing Elvis footage to the
BBC's "Top of the Pops" program for the show's feature on
Elvis's new #1 UK single "Jailhouse Rock."

EPE has had to turn down all footage requests from the BBC
since 2002, when an as yet unresolved dispute between the
two companies arose. EPE had licensed footage to the BBC
for one of their programs and then they re-used that material
for other programming despite the fact that the usage agreement
specified that re-use was prohibited without separate, specific
permission from EPE. The BBC has been mostly unresponsive
about the matter, which EPE has been proactive in trying to
resolve. Unfortunately, the special opportunity with "Top of the
Pops" had to be turned down, as with all BBC footage requests
while the infringement issue remains unsettled.

It does appear that the high-profile nature of this most recent EPE
turndown of a BBC footage request has caught the attention of BBC
staff higher up than those EPE has been in communication with about
the infringement matter. We hope resolution of the issue will come
swiftly, hopefully before this week's edition of "Top of the Pops" when
"One Night," Elvis's latest #1 single in the UK should be featured.

We are as disappointed as the Elvis fans are about not having Elvis
properly represented on the "Top of the Pops" program during the current
and exciting wave of success his legacy is enjoying with BMG's great
Elvis UK #1 singles reissue promotion. The BBC is to blame, yet EPE is
getting bashed for it.

[Albert]

It's all about politics...... what a horrible thing...... where's the love for music (and some ethics)? (n)

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

It's all about politics...... what a horrible thing...... where's the love for music (and some ethics)? (n)

I think its more about money than politics......................... :mad:

[Elvos]

At first I gave EPE the benefit of the doubt...But with this answer they really show that they are greedy and childish! That's why we never hear or see Elvis as much as we would like,and maybe even the broadcasters would like..

[Captain Elwood David]

I can't say that I see anything wrong with EPE's message / stance on this issue- if what they say (the facts) is indeed TRUE.

In fact, if I found myself in their shoes, in this same situation ............ I'd probably do the same.

If you don't pay or play fair ....... with the "rights" you were given, ................ then you don't get the "rights." Sorry, ......... but we are not talking about just any other artist here. ELVIS is a monster making M$O$N$E$Y machine like no other - in the past, now, & in the future. If the BBC has abused their position in the past (which would not surprise me at all), then I see no reason to give them any leeway until the matter is rectified / addressed.

EPE's TCB'ing - in this instance - is also what makes releases such as The DELUXE Aloha / '68 Comeback DVD's happen ............................ albiet indirectly. (I'm still satisfied, with both, too, by the way).

For good & bad, $$$$ is what makes The Elvis World go 'round-n'round ..... (this time, I don't see where EPE is to blame).

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I'm no fan of EPE, that's for sure.

However, in this instance, ........... I think many are barking up the wrong tree.


- Capt. "EL."

[jbgude]

Technicaly you are right Captain : however stop for a moment and think - does BBC earn money by showing the clips ? Who gets more publicity each time a clip is shown on a mass watched programme like TOTP - Who benifits more: EPE /BMG or the BBC ?

EPE knows the answer as well as us.

They shot themselves in the foot -if the knew where their future $$ will come from - they would have got their act together. There is a time and place for showing your power. The BBC certainly does not need to have an Elvis video clip to be shown. Infact the may even skip playing Elvis and just mention that the NO 1 for the 9,99, 999,999 time is from that chap called " what's his name" ? ( we dont want to get sued for using his name or likeness on our programmes.)

oh well, that's the way it is.

jb

Glad you like the EPE released DVD's -I like them too- but I would have liked it even more -if we the fans - had not goofed up and not informed EPE about the omitted scenes -and I cannot wait for the deifinitive 68 special to come out as it will sooner or later. It still hurts's me.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I can't say that I see anything wrong with EPE's message / stance on this issue- if what they say (the facts) is indeed TRUE.

In fact, if I found myself in their shoes, in this same situation ............ I'd probably do the same.

If you don't pay or play fair ....... with the "rights" you were given, ................ then you don't get the "rights." Sorry, ......... but we are not talking about just any other artist here. ELVIS is a monster making M$O$N$E$Y machine like no other - in the past, now, & in the future. If the BBC has abused their position in the past (which would not surprise me at all), then I see no reason to give them any leeway until the matter is rectified / addressed.

EPE's TCB'ing - in this instance - is also what makes releases such as The DELUXE Aloha / '68 Comeback DVD's happen ............................ albiet indirectly. (I'm still satisfied, with both, too, by the way).

For good & bad, $$$$ is what makes The Elvis World go 'round-n'round ..... (this time, I don't see where EPE is to blame).

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I'm no fan of EPE, that's for sure.

However, in this instance, ........... I think many are barking up the wrong tree.


- Capt. "EL."

Whilst I agree in the main, I also see the current success in the Uk as a missed opportunity for EPE & BMG to make extra cash............... If EPE & BMG looked at the bigger picture this could have been resolved to the benefit of both companies. The BBC is a non commercial T.V. on the main channels broadcasted on UK T.V. their other commercial channels that are on cable and satellite could quite easily placed some sort of advertisment to Aloha, 68 Special etc.

The BBC is funded by the citizens of the UK and should support the needs of those who pay their wages. Clearly they are happy to show a couple of pictures and move on. Unfortunately the biggest chart in the UK is the BBC Radio 1 chart which does not profit from any of the sales!!

That said I do think that the British public deserve better from the BBC and EPE/BMG it's a question of you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours :hmm:

[Captain Elwood David]

jb


They shot themselves in the foot -if the knew where their future $$ will come from - they would have got their act together. There is a time and place for showing your power.
For whatever their reasons, I'd say EPE just ............. DID (choose a time & place to "show" their "power".)

EPE has, & will continue to do just fine, ............. without the BBC's cooperation.


The BBC certainly does not need to have an Elvis video clip to be shown.
Nor does EPE need the BBC.

That, is also, ........... "the way it is."


Glad you like the EPE released DVD's -I like them too- but I would have liked it even more -if we the fans - had not goofed up and not informed EPE about the omitted scenes -and I cannot wait for the deifinitive 68 special to come out as it will sooner or later. It still hurts's me.
Actually, I LOVED the Deluxe releases, including the '68 Comeback set.

Anybody still bellowing about the oversight omission of an already widely available clip (on numerous past releases) ............ is missing the big picture & being petty (JMO). The Deluxe '68 DVD release was chalk full of incredible unreleased / unseen footage; not sure what more one could ask for (rhetorical question, of course ...)

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Soden (& Co.) is not my b?te noire, ..................... but that doesn't mean that I'm a cheerleader for EPE, either. Far from it. In this instance, I can see & understand where they (EPE) are coming from.


- Capt. "EL."

[Elvos]

I know buisiness wise it would be right for EPE to do what they do..but at the long run this dessision will do more harm then good! But if you can make an exception for a good cause it will show some goodwill and will pay itself back! We did as fans all we could to let Elvis top the charts! Now it's their turn to do something back.Just look at how many people bash EPE for this ,and after such a bad and childish excuse they use it only gets worst!
I mean is "The BBC is to blame, yet EPE is
getting bashed for it." an excuse .yeah maybe on the playground! They scr#w up big time..and on ..and on..Maybe EPE should have an European devision!
(You're losing intrest in me and it's showing)Thankyouverymuch
It's not the first time that EPE is to blame,but they also do a lot of good stuff too,but for now......uh uh

[Captain Elwood David]

Nothing that EPE does, .......... surprises me anymore.

To be honest, I think you guys are making ......... "much ado about nothing." (The BBC vs. EPE rift). :D

It will pass & be forgotten, ........... EP will still continue to be #1, and the "fans" (including those on this thread) will keep buying "The Music" ....................


- Capt. "EL."

[Elvos]

Yeah you're right Captain Elwood ..I will buy his music etc and also the dvd's EPE produced were perfect!~But I'm happy that there is a fuzz about it now it is important!
The response EPE gave is working against them..In my opinion it was very childish to say
(even if it's treu) BBC is to blame and EPE is getting bashed for it! Sorry but if there's no one who says anything about it I doubt if this discussion would even be a discussion right now and there would still be no clip to celebrate the 1000#1..We will see what will come out of it... But keep on saying what you WANT to say!

[Captain Elwood David]

Well, ...... I would like to say one more thing:

EPE's words (above) -

"It does appear that the high-profile nature of this most recent EPE
turndown of a BBC footage request has caught the attention of BBC
staff higher up than those EPE has been in communication with about
the infringement matter. We hope resolution of the issue will come
swiftly, hopefully before this week's edition of "Top of the Pops" when
"One Night," Elvis's latest #1 single in the UK should be featured."

Sounds to me that all the BBC has to swiftly do is ................. stop being in "infingement" & all will be well. (IE: Obey The Law). EPE didn't get to where they are by being "Mr. Nice Guys."

I think EPE does indeed have the big picture / long run very much in FOCUS.

If that comes to pass, ............ then "Mission Accomplished" ............. on multiple levels. :D


- Capt. "EL."

[pacer1965]

Sorry but on bbc website they said they are going to get an Elvis impersonater to sing One night. That is the final insult to me (n) If I can't see the :king: than I would rather go without :angry: :angry: :angry:

[Elvos]

Elvis Presley 'One Night'
Well, he's finally done it. Despite no longer being with us, Elvis has claimed the 1000th No.1, and his 1000th week in the Top 40 with 'One Night'. Interestingly, this song is the 300th to debut at No.1 and it's also the lowest-selling No.1 single ever. What's more, it only got to No.3 on the flipside of 'I Got Stung' in 1959. How you like them stats?

from totp site

[eileen]

Glad you like the EPE released DVD's -I like them too- but I would have liked it even more -if we the fans - had not goofed up and not informed EPE about the omitted scenes -and I cannot wait for the deifinitive 68 special to come out as it will sooner or later. It still hurts's me.

I'm veering slightly off topic here however want to address this. I know EPE made a similar comment in their original explanation - "Hey, the fans didn't notice it either, they didn't tell us." I didn't find that comment particularly appropriate, however not worth complaining about either. But if fans are also believing this is OUR fault, that's another matter. :hmm:

When EPE had those screenings in Memphis they were not editing or proofing sessions and we were repeatedly reminded that they were still working on the footage. It was never suggested or considered our job to decide what was to be included in each screening set up by EPE, nor to guess at and verify the proper footage. We weren't asked for detailed feedback at all, simply asked to show our approval via applause at the end of a few of the screenings.

I hope your comment was just emotional because of all the recent UK hits problems! :blush:

Eileen