What do you think? Will Elvis be forgotten like this article says?

[King Of The Whole World]

What do you think about this article? Do you think Elvis will be forgotten in 15 or 20 years?

I'm one of these fans that were not born until after Elvis died. The times I have been to Graceland I see a huge mix of people young, old and many nationalities.

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[Brian]

I think it is a possibilty.

I think for a variety of reasons Elvis' popularity has started to decline since around 2008.

That could continue for the next couple of years where Elvis' is even further out of the public eye.

Then 20 years from now is largely forgotten.

[rocknroll]

Some of the most ridiculous tripe I've read. I'm sure many thought he would have been forgotten after he died. How did that work out? Elvis is so ingrained in world history, culture, society he gets new fans constantly. Now, renaming Valentines Day as Elvis Day may be even more ridiculous. Let's just get his Birthday recognized, much better idea.

[KPM]

The author of this "blog" is a Mechanical Engineer.....hardly a cultural expert who perhaps does not understand the true meaning of "real charisma"
Elvis can never be the hottest thing on the planet again-he can have moments of great interest and fans are born from those.
Elvis draws fans every year who were not born when he died-let alone when he was in his prime and they are not drawn to Elvis because of he is the hottest thing on the planet like (as of today)a Bieber or Gaga...they are drawn to him because of his voice, charisma, and that essence of humanity that calls to them.
In 55 it was said "He can not last"
In 58 it was said "Hes going in the Army-he'll be forgotten"
In 64 it was said "Hes dead long live the Beatles"
In 77 it was said "The King is Dead"
Nearly 60 years since he started-he is still huge, he still draws new fans, he still is known by his firstname worldwide.
I doubt that this gentleman is correct in his blog.

[vivaelvis]

I think it is a possibilty.

I think for a variety of reasons Elvis' popularity has started to decline since around 2008.

That could continue for the next couple of years where Elvis' is even further out of the public eye.

Then 20 years from now is largely forgotten.

Are you really a true fan or just a young casual fan who has no clue about Elvis' legacy? Seriously, you obviously aren't familiar with the fact that since 1977 people have been predicting his demise and it has yet to come. It's like Christians keep predicting the end is near and that Jesus is returning soon yet he still hasn't. There's just some things that cannot be predicted. Elvis' demise, should it ever happen, is one of them. And no son, Elvis has not even began to fade in any way, shape or form. If you honestly believe that then I suggest you get out more because Elvis has as much an impact and influence on the everyday life as any human has ever had to date. And that is NOT fandom speaking. It's factual reality.

[vivaelvis]

The author of this "blog" is a Mechanical Engineer.....hardly a cultural expert who perhaps does not understand the true meaning of "real charisma"
Elvis can never be the hottest thing on the planet again-he can have moments of great interest and fans are born from those.
Elvis draws fans every year who were not born when he died-let alone when he was in his prime and they are not drawn to Elvis because of he is the hottest thing on the planet like (as of today)a Bieber or Gaga...they are drawn to him because of his voice, charisma, and that essence of humanity that calls to them.
In 55 it was said "He can not last"
In 58 it was said "Hes going in the Army-he'll be forgotten"
In 64 it was said "Hes dead long live the Beatles"
In 77 it was said "The King is Dead"
Nearly 60 years since he started-he is still huge, he still draws new fans, he still is known by his firstname worldwide.
I doubt that this gentleman is correct in his blog.

Back in 1999, some so called psychic, who predicted the 1989 San Francisco earthquake, predicted that Elvis would begin to fade as the century turned. But he did the opposite with a monster worldwide smash hit remix and a #1 album for a month. Attendance at Graceland has gone up instead of down even during the roughest financial economic period since the great depression, and withstood terrorist threats following 911. Plus he continues to chart albums on modern day charts and digital downloads.

I think it's safe to say that all of us who are here on this earth will pass on before Elvis is forgotten, or even starts to fade.

[Brian]

VivaElvis- Every since the website has gone back up i am unable to use the quote function.

I have read what you said and it is the most ridiculous thing i've ever read on TCB-world.

We are talking about the future not the past so it doesn't make any difference about Elvis' popularity up until now.

Do you know how many celebrities that were once big stars but nobody on earth knows them now.

Take Big Crosby for example he was the most famous entertainer and movie star for over two decades and now nobody under the age of 40 knows who he is.

20 years from now the same thing could happen to Elvis.

Time changes and people move on.

I am insulted by the crack about me not knowing anything or i need to get out more.

You need to get out more and stop saying ridiculous things.

P.S. Elvis' popularity has started to decline a little bit since around 2008.
Elvis is no longer everywhere.

Whether you choose to admit that is not my concern.

[elvia7]

VivaElvis- Every since the website has gone back up i am unable to use the quote function.

I have read what you said and it is the most ridiculous thing i've ever read on TCB-world.

We are talking about the future not the past so it doesn't make any difference about Elvis' popularity up until now.

Do you know how many celebrities that were once big stars but nobody on earth knows them now.

Take Big Crosby for example he was the most famous entertainer and movie star for over two decades and now nobody under the age of 40 knows who he is.

20 years from now the same thing could happen to Elvis.

Time changes and people move on.

I am insulted by the crack about me not knowing anything or i need to get out more.

You need to get out more and stop saying ridiculous things.

P.S. Elvis' popularity has started to decline a little bit since around 2008.
Elvis is no longer everywhere.

Whether you choose to admit that is not my concern.


With all due respect to the many 'great' contemporary and old (Bing Crosby) 'stars'.
Brian, I think you have no idea how big it is ELVIS!
This is not the 'King of Rock'n'roll'! This is the King of the Hearth, and not without reason.
Such charisma and such a great emotional charge which we can hear the Elvis songs, you do not hear from anyone.
In addition, Elvis is very often (until today) someone who fills an empty space in the hearts of many lonely person.
I know what I write, I talk to older people, and what may surprise you, more often with the very young.
ELVIS is LOVE! UNDENIABLY!
I doubt that He will disappear from the consciousness of the people.
This is not American or English artist. This is a man who, his voice electrifies millions of people on this planet.
He's the only one artist which has a nickname in China! You know , how it sounds :-)? Beautiful! Mao Wang ( the King Cat )
In Honkongu huge FC. I do not deny that his popularity is decreasing.
But that does not mean anything. Elvis is not an artist, He is PHENOMENON!

And here I agree with KPM:"Elvis draws fans every year who were not born when he died-let alone when he was in his prime and they are not drawn to Elvis because of he is the hottest thing on the planet like (as of today)a Bieber or Gaga...they are drawn to him because of his voice, charisma, and that essence of humanity that calls to them"

[Diane]

I disagree too, I think Elvis will go down in history for many many years to come because of the impact he made on the world with his talent, charisma and looks. There was no one like him nor has there been anyone since and never will be. He was unique in every way.

[Brian Quinn]

I disagree too, I think Elvis will go down in history for many many years to come because of the impact he made on the world with his talent, charisma and looks. There was no one like him nor has there been anyone since and never will be. He was unique in every way.

Amen to that.

Brian (y)

[Snake Eyes]

His music is immortal, no way will he ever be forgotten.

[KPM]

60 years and still recognised worldwide, still drawing fans and selling records...thats a pretty good track record.
Still mentioned in the top 3 of all time record sellers worldwide-if not recognised as "the Number 1 record seller" and been dead heading toward 40 years. Bing Crosby died the same year as Elvis yet whos estate has flourished and grown? whos fandom has stayed consistent?-who is still selling records at a pretty brisk pace each year?
(My kids do know who Bing Crosby is and they are 26, 28, and 30...they also know who Sinatra, Dean Martin and Tony Bennett are)

2008 was the year of the financial meltdown worldwide-so it is not just Elvis whos business fell off in 2008 look at the stockmarket crashing to around 7000 points. I would not gauge anything by the year 2008 because it was not a normal financial decline- it was catastrophic.

[vivaelvis]

60 years and still recognised worldwide, still drawing fans and selling records...thats a pretty good track record.
Still mentioned in the top 3 of all time record sellers worldwide-if not recognised as "the Number 1 record seller" and been dead heading toward 40 years. Bing Crosby died the same year as Elvis yet whos estate has flourished and grown? whos fandom has stayed consistent?-who is still selling records at a pretty brisk pace each year?
(My kids do know who Bing Crosby is and they are 26, 28, and 30...they also know who Sinatra, Dean Martin and Tony Bennett are)

2008 was the year of the financial meltdown worldwide-so it is not just Elvis whos business fell off in 2008 look at the stockmarket crashing to around 7000 points. I would not gauge anything by the year 2008 because it was not a normal financial decline- it was catastrophic.

Totally agree!

[vivaelvis]

VivaElvis- Every since the website has gone back up i am unable to use the quote function.

I have read what you said and it is the most ridiculous thing i've ever read on TCB-world.

We are talking about the future not the past so it doesn't make any difference about Elvis' popularity up until now.

Do you know how many celebrities that were once big stars but nobody on earth knows them now.

Take Big Crosby for example he was the most famous entertainer and movie star for over two decades and now nobody under the age of 40 knows who he is.

20 years from now the same thing could happen to Elvis.

Time changes and people move on.

I am insulted by the crack about me not knowing anything or i need to get out more.

You need to get out more and stop saying ridiculous things.

P.S. Elvis' popularity has started to decline a little bit since around 2008.
Elvis is no longer everywhere.

Whether you choose to admit that is not my concern.

Who among the dead has a giant billboard hovering over Time Square in a white jumpsuit that represents a historic moment there? Elvis

Who gets his movies and television special devoted to him around his birthday and death anniversary every year? Elvis

Who draws in over 600,000 visitors worldwide to his estate where he is buried each year? Elvis

Who's iconic hairstyle recently was recognized as the top most influential in pop culture? Elvis

Who's name is mentioned almost daily worldwide by media? Elvis

Who's got his own religion? Elvis

Who just made $60 million compared to teen idol Justin Bieber's $37 million for the year? Elvis


If you can't see the light then you are blind.

P.S. Comparing Bing Crosby to Elvis's longevity is the biggest insult I have ever heard come from a "Elvis fan".

[King Of The Whole World]

The author of this "blog" is a Mechanical Engineer.....hardly a cultural expert who perhaps does not understand the true meaning of "real charisma"
Elvis can never be the hottest thing on the planet again-he can have moments of great interest and fans are born from those.
Elvis draws fans every year who were not born when he died-let alone when he was in his prime and they are not drawn to Elvis because of he is the hottest thing on the planet like (as of today)a Bieber or Gaga...they are drawn to him because of his voice, charisma, and that essence of humanity that calls to them.
In 55 it was said "He can not last"
In 58 it was said "Hes going in the Army-he'll be forgotten"
In 64 it was said "Hes dead long live the Beatles"
In 77 it was said "The King is Dead"
Nearly 60 years since he started-he is still huge, he still draws new fans, he still is known by his firstname worldwide.
I doubt that this gentleman is correct in his blog.

Ken, I agree with you on the times you have said, Elvis sells Elvis and no one can do it better. When people hear him no matter what age and with an open mind they are instantly hooked. There is something about this guy that had it all, the voice, looks and of course the charisma that people cannot escape.

I don't know the future but what I do know is I will never forget Elvis Aron Presley.

[Brian]

VivaElvis- You are missing the point of the article and the thread.

Everything you are talking about has happened in the past.

That does not mean that it will always be that way and that he won't fade in time like so many other famous people have.

Several movie stars have had all day movie marathon's during their birthday's like for example John Wayne.

You are crazy and being ridiculous again if you think my comparison to Bing Crosby was an insult or the biggest insult.

Get back to me in 15 and 20 years from now and will see how things are then.

[Brian]

Some of you are missing the point about Bing Crosby and it is ridiuclous to say i don't know how popular Elvis has been.

Do you know how and why Bing Crosby faded from popularity.

Most of you are probably too young to know or understand how popular Bing was.

Bing Crosby faded from popularity for a number of reasons.

1. The majority of his fans starting dying off (This could happen to Elvis in 20 years)
2. The new younger generations of people weren't interested in his type of music ( Who knows how music will have evolved 20 years from now)
3. The people that own and manage Bing's catalog of music became disinterested in promoting him ( The music business is changing and i can see how they could completely lose interest in promoting older artists)

Also have you noticed how many people under the age of 30 don't have a frame of reference for things that happened before they were born.

Another thing i'm noticing is that other than Turner Classic movies television stations in the United States are rarely showing movies pre 1970.

The only place you can see real old movies from the 1930s thru the 1950s is Turner Classic movies because other t.v. stations rarely show them.

All of this does not bode well for Elvis.

[KPM]

Some of you are missing the point about Bing Crosby and it is ridiuclous to say i don't know how popular Elvis has been.

Do you know how and why Bing Crosby faded from popularity.

Most of you are probably too young to know or understand how popular Bing was.

Bing Crosby faded from popularity for a number of reasons.

1. The majority of his fans starting dying off (This could happen to Elvis in 20 years)
2. The new younger generations of people weren't interested in his type of music ( Who knows how music will have evolved 20 years from now)
3. The people that own and manage Bing's catalog of music became disinterested in promoting him ( The music business is changing and i can see how they could completely lose interest in promoting older artists)

Also have you noticed how many people under the age of 30 don't have a frame of reference for things that happened before they were born.

Another thing i'm noticing is that other than Turner Classic movies television stations in the United States are rarely showing movies pre 1970.

The only place you can see real old movies from the 1930s thru the 1950s is Turner Classic movies because other t.v. stations rarely show them.

All of this does not bode well for Elvis.
First off the original fans of Elvis are already passing away-but I am not from the original group-I am 57.
I know many of our members here are much younger than I-they are not original fans, not even second tier like me.
Younger generations produce Elvis fans each year-not flavor of the month fans-but steadfast loyal lifelong fans...who love the voice and feel the bond with him and his music-this can not be denied-look at our membership.
Is it a tidal wave of fans every year-no-but he has as many fans today as in 1955, he still has more operating fan clubs than any artist living or dead
The difference between Bing Crosby and Elvis is more complicated than you suggest.
Bing Crosby was a huge singing star-his chart successes are legendary (although asterisked)and they rival Elvis (although Bings sales do not because of differing population in his era, differing age groups who bought records in his era, differing financial realities....IE depression, less cash, less people who could afford record players etc...)
Elvis has a couple things which keep him moving each year that Bing did not ever have:
1- Elvis and his explosion was an overall cultural changer for literally everything not just music. He was a trendsetter and the world literally changed because of his pioneering and selling Rock. Young people found a voice to identify with and a freedom to rebel and it sparked change.
Bing was not a pioneer, he was not a world changing force that sparked people to think or act differently....he was a good voice with a pleasant smile....he was the top crooner among crooners.....he was top of that list.
2-Elvis was not just a crooner, he was a rocker, a country singer, a blues singer, light opera singer who was not confined to one style one music-Bing sang country-but it sounded like a "Crooner singing country" .......Elvis sang "Country"
Bing sang everything like he crooned-in that style in that form. It limited him.
3-Elvis had more charisma than any mortal man who has ever walked the earth IMO His magnetism, charisma and sex appeal was/is unreal-anyone who saw him live or met him have always been dumbfounded by the feel of being in the same room with him.
Bing was a wonderful man in a lot of ways but I really have never heard him called Chrismatic even in his heydey.

Bing was a very talented man, won the Oscar, had great chart success and longevity in his own right but he was not a revolutionary world changer, he was not charismatic in the way that Elvis is.
Some people have become Elvis fans...just by seeing a photo of him-that was all it took to spur them to find out more and to love him.
You can not stop that kind of appeal, that kind of draw.
This is an old argument-going back to 1955 when everyone who did not fully understand the impact of what Elvis was doing, what he was pioneering...nor the charismatic appeal of Elvis said:
"This is a fad, he's a flash in the pan that will spark and die."

Every year changes have happened since Elvis died-music is fickle and so are the young people who follow the trends and flavors of the month-but you know what...... after all the flavors of the month have been tried and tasted.....and as people age-they tend to be drawn back to old standbys that have always been there and will always be there...........Elvis is like that also.

[Snake Eyes]

Great post Ken, sums it up perfectly.

[elvia7]

Thanks, Ken this can't be more correctly recognized.

[jak]

It's only natural that Elvis will fade into the background more as time passes. He's still amazingly popular after being gone so long. He still interests people because he stands out from the pack. People will always discover him and he will always make new fans. Just don't expect him to be as relevant to the general public as he has been in the past. He's not front page news anymore but he will always have a loyal fan base.

[Brian]

In reply to Ken's post.

Yes, i am aware the original fans are alreadly dying off.

I mean even more Elvis fans will have died off in 20 years and every single one of the original fans might be dead by then.

1. Yes, that's the one major difference between Elvis and Crosby however that may not mean as much as you think in the future.

W.C. Handy and The Carter Family aren't really remembered that much by the current generation or the one before it so who knows how people will feel about Elvis' contributions 20 years from now.

2. I don't think that necessarily matters when it comes to whether or not Elvis will continue to endure in popularity.

3. That is your opinion.

I Just think as we get further and further away from Elvis' death in 1977 he doesn't and cannot have as much personal reasonance with as many people as he once did.
And it is enivatable that Elvis' will fade at some point.

You have to be 41 or 42 years old just to remember a time when Elvis was alive and walked the earth.

There are people that were born the year of Elvis' major breakthrough in 1956 that are now great grandfather's and grandmother's.

[KPM]

[I]Yes every single original fan may be dead in 20 years-so correct-but not the tier 2 fans, nor tier 3, 4, 5, etc......
E-V-E-R-Y year since 1955 Elvis has made fans-that includes the 35 years since he died including 2012.
Another point about fans there children more times than not end up being fans....when I saw Elvis in 76 seated to our right was 7 seats filled with a grandmother, her 2 daughters and 4 grandaughter all fans...the grandmother was seated next to my wife and she was 60 the whole group had to be between the ages of 60 and 7.....my own kids like Elvis and enjoy his music but are not hardcore fans...my oldest daughter has been to Graceland with a group of her friends a few years back-all were under 26..they plan to go again.
You seem to think only the original fans keep the memory of Elvis alive-it is every generation since 1955 in varying numbers.
Yes he will not gain 40 million fans a year-like a Bieber-but Bieber is the Hare right this moment-fast and moving like...the Backstreet Boys a few yers back, or New Kid On the Block, or Jewel, or any artist that jumps high and has 3-5 huge years then slows to a crawl....Elvis in 2013 is the tortoise steadily making a way forward into the future. I am not under any illusions that he will ever again be the hottest thing on earth...but he is not going to disappear as you suggest.

1-Historical figures continue on and Elvis is a historical cultural figure. On a comparison level-Crosby is President Taft a very bland figure in presidential history......Elvis is Lincoln or Washington, who are revered today, whos homes are still huge tourist attractions and who are still quoted still seen as national treasures.
Elvis's Home is listed a Historic Landmark... how many rock artists have that Honor? Sets him way above Crosby or most any other artists.
That homes draws people the world over-not people who consider Elvis the hottest performer of 2013-but people who understand and appreciate his historic significance in cultural history and who perhaps also love his voice.....and these are not just older original fans-they are a cross section of age, cross section of financial standing, a cross section of the world population...people like the young miner who was trapped in the cave in a while back who loved Elvis and wanted to visit Graceland if he lived.....a guy who was not even born when Elvis died-this type of adulation and love is not normal to the common entertainer.... lets be real about how "unique" Elvis is.
2-The reason I mentioned the difference of vocal ability/versatility between Crosby and Elvis was to show why Elvis is still today as popular as he is and why Bing fell by the wayside. You may not see the relevance but to me its clear....Crosbys appeal was limited-by his lone crooning ability Elvis was a chameleon. Chameleons can attract and fit in with anything or anybody...even in 2013 or 2033.
WC Handy was no Elvis, and I loved the Carter Family but they did not start a revolution which changed music and culture from that moment on.
I'm not sure how you correlate Carter Family with Elvis? Worlds apart in importance and worldwide cultural change. Elvis is not common, he is "unique" beyond the meaning of the word.
3-The CHARISMA of Elvis-which you call "my opinion" With all due respect its not just my opinion listen to anyone who met him speak in interview-they will back up my opinion....Whitney Houston said when he walked in it was not like you started asking questions you just stood in awe.
Shelley Fabares the actress in Girl Happy, Spinout and Clambake said recently that she had her back to the stage door entrance and suddenly felt an odd feeling in the room and everything became still..she turned and Elvis had just entered the room.........Jerry Reed on a live album says Elvis was the handsomest most electrifing person he ever met.......BB King said Elvis was an extraordiary talent who just had something nobody else had....not just a few people back me up on the huge Charisma of ELvis but virtually everyone who ever met him or saw him perform that has spoke about him says the same thing-ONE OF A KIND.
Yes you have to be in your 40s to remember Elvis as he walked the earth-many members here are not 40...many members at FECC are not 40.
My kids are not 40, my brothers son is 22 and he loves Elvis along with Led Zepplin and the Beatles.

Beethoven is dead hundreds of years ......all the grandfathers and great grandmothers who ever heard his music while alive are dead and gone-yet he is still remembered his home still visited-his music still played....to packed houses........he is not the hottest thing on the planet in music..but is still remembered and honored-not forgotten.
Sillerman when he negotiated his agreement for 85% of Elvis's image insisted upon a 99 year lease with Lisa to use Graceland.
He must have seen the potential for 99 years of ticket buyers, 99 years of sales of merchandise-else why sign such a lease?
I think you sell the reason for this website-a little short my friend.

[KPM]

It's only natural that Elvis will fade into the background more as time passes. He's still amazingly popular after being gone so long. He still interests people because he stands out from the pack. People will always discover him and he will always make new fans. Just don't expect him to be as relevant to the general public as he has been in the past. He's not front page news anymore but he will always have a loyal fan base.

Total agreement-its what I am trying to get across.

[vivaelvis]

Bottom line, as long as Graceland stays open and relevant then Elvis has an even longer longevity.

Brian, you are missing the point that Elvis was a historical worldwide figure. Not just another singer. Crosby was not worldly idolized. Neither was Sinatra. Yes they have had fame and success but nowhere near a tenth of what Elvis has had and remains to have today. If Elvis was going to fade he would have by now as the majority of the people who were there when he started out have passed on. But he's only gotten bigger with time. The majority of visitors to Graceland are under 35, meaning they weren't born when he passed. As technology is discovered and advanced, Elvis is the one who's always mentioned as a way to bring him back. You don't hear of a demand for a virtual Bing Crosby or Frank Sinatra tour. :lol:

Another way that Elvis will never be forgotten is the fact that there's now over 50 statues throughout the US and the world of Elvis to make sure that he is NOT forgotten as time passes. Elvis wasn't just a famous singer or entertainer. He was the image, the definition and the dream of what America was and still is. Grow up poor and become rich. Everyone will always be able to relate to that alone. Therefor he will forever be remembered as a cultural iconic figure who changed the world. There may even be a town eventually named after Elvis. I still think we'll see his birthday recognized as a holiday one day, and in our lifetime.

"With Elvis there would be no Beatles" - John Lennon

[Brian]

Washington and Lincoln are remembered but they aren't remembered as much as Elvis has been.

If 20 years from now Elvis is viewed strictly as a historical figure like Washington and Lincoln that would still be a drop in popularity and relevance for him.

My comparison to Bing Crosby wasn't meant to mean that him and Elvis were a like i'm very aware that they had different careers and they took different roads.

I can see similarities with how Bing Crosby fall out of favor with the public and is no longer a popular figure.

The same things that caused Bing Crosby to become obscure and irrelevant could quite possibly be the same reasons that Elvis falls from popularity in the years to come.

Regardless of the differences between them in terms of charisma or singing style.

The Carter Family were pioneers of country music like Elvis was a pioneer of rock n' roll.

Yet The Carter Family are not considered important by todays country music fans even though they are.

There may come a time when Elvis is viewed like that.

[vivaelvis]

[I]Yes every single original fan may be dead in 20 years-so correct-but not the tier 2 fans, nor tier 3, 4, 5, etc......
E-V-E-R-Y year since 1955 Elvis has made fans-that includes the 35 years since he died including 2012.
Another point about fans there children more times than not end up being fans....when I saw Elvis in 76 seated to our right was 7 seats filled with a grandmother, her 2 daughters and 4 grandaughter all fans...the grandmother was seated next to my wife and she was 60 the whole group had to be between the ages of 60 and 7.....my own kids like Elvis and enjoy his music but are not hardcore fans...my oldest daughter has been to Graceland with a group of her friends a few years back-all were under 26..they plan to go again.
You seem to think only the original fans keep the memory of Elvis alive-it is every generation since 1955 in varying numbers.
Yes he will not gain 40 million fans a year-like a Bieber-but Bieber is the Hare right this moment-fast and moving like...the Backstreet Boys a few yers back, or New Kid On the Block, or Jewel, or any artist that jumps high and has 3-5 huge years then slows to a crawl....Elvis in 2013 is the tortoise steadily making a way forward into the future. I am not under any illusions that he will ever again be the hottest thing on earth...but he is not going to disappear as you suggest.

1-Historical figures continue on and Elvis is a historical cultural figure. On a comparison level-Crosby is President Taft a very bland figure in presidential history......Elvis is Lincoln or Washington, who are revered today, whos homes are still huge tourist attractions and who are still quoted still seen as national treasures.
Elvis's Home is listed a Historic Landmark... how many rock artists have that Honor? Sets him way above Crosby or most any other artists.
That homes draws people the world over-not people who consider Elvis the hottest performer of 2013-but people who understand and appreciate his historic significance in cultural history and who perhaps also love his voice.....and these are not just older original fans-they are a cross section of age, cross section of financial standing, a cross section of the world population...people like the young miner who was trapped in the cave in a while back who loved Elvis and wanted to visit Graceland if he lived.....a guy who was not even born when Elvis died-this type of adulation and love is not normal to the common entertainer.... lets be real about how "unique" Elvis is.
2-The reason I mentioned the difference of vocal ability/versatility between Crosby and Elvis was to show why Elvis is still today as popular as he is and why Bing fell by the wayside. You may not see the relevance but to me its clear....Crosbys appeal was limited-by his lone crooning ability Elvis was a chameleon. Chameleons can attract and fit in with anything or anybody...even in 2013 or 2033.
WC Handy was no Elvis, and I loved the Carter Family but they did not start a revolution which changed music and culture from that moment on.
I'm not sure how you correlate Carter Family with Elvis? Worlds apart in importance and worldwide cultural change. Elvis is not common, he is "unique" beyond the meaning of the word.
3-The CHARISMA of Elvis-which you call "my opinion" With all due respect its not just my opinion listen to anyone who met him speak in interview-they will back up my opinion....Whitney Houston said when he walked in it was not like you started asking questions you just stood in awe.
Shelley Fabares the actress in Girl Happy, Spinout and Clambake said recently that she had her back to the stage door entrance and suddenly felt an odd feeling in the room and everything became still..she turned and Elvis had just entered the room.........Jerry Reed on a live album says Elvis was the handsomest most electrifing person he ever met.......BB King said Elvis was an extraordiary talent who just had something nobody else had....not just a few people back me up on the huge Charisma of ELvis but virtually everyone who ever met him or saw him perform that has spoke about him says the same thing-ONE OF A KIND.
Yes you have to be in your 40s to remember Elvis as he walked the earth-many members here are not 40...many members at FECC are not 40.
My kids are not 40, my brothers son is 22 and he loves Elvis along with Led Zepplin and the Beatles.

Beethoven is dead hundreds of years ......all the grandfathers and great grandmothers who ever heard his music while alive are dead and gone-yet he is still remembered his home still visited-his music still played....to packed houses........he is not the hottest thing on the planet in music..but is still remembered and honored-not forgotten.
Sillerman when he negotiated his agreement for 85% of Elvis's image insisted upon a 99 year lease with Lisa to use Graceland.
He must have seen the potential for 99 years of ticket buyers, 99 years of sales of merchandise-else why sign such a lease?
I think you sell the reason for this website-a little short my friend.

Very well said and I totally agree. Love the Elvis comparison to Lincoln and Washington. That's exactly how he is seen by the mass majority of people today. Some don't like him or his music yet understand his importance.

[Brian]

VivaElvis- stop spouting ridiculous nonsense.

I know Elvis is a historical figure i acknowledged that.

That's not the point.

I am just making brilliant points that you cannot comprehend so stop trying.

You are wrong about Bing Crosby and Sinatra being idolized worldwide.

[vivaelvis]

Washington and Lincoln are remembered but they aren't remembered as much as Elvis has been.

If 20 years from now Elvis is viewed strictly as a historical figure like Washington and Lincoln that would still be a drop in popularity and relevance for him.

My comparison to Bing Crosby wasn't meant to mean that him and Elvis were a like i'm very aware that they had different careers and they took different roads.

I can see similarities with how Bing Crosby fall out of favor with the public and is no longer a popular figure.

The same things that caused Bing Crosby to become obscure and irrelevant could quite possibly be the same reasons that Elvis falls from popularity in the years to come.

Regardless of the differences between them in terms of charisma or singing style.

The Carter Family were pioneers of country music like Elvis was a pioneer of rock n' roll.

Yet The Carter Family are not considered important by todays country music fans even though they are.

There may come a time when Elvis is viewed like that.


Dude, just stop. Your posts are getting ridiculous now. Rock music is the foundation of all music because all genres today are inspired by rock. Rock and country aren't even on the same planet. You obviously are too young to understand the value, legacy and importance of Elvis Presley.

Just take Graceland for example. If they or the new owners were concerned about Elvis' popularity fading, they certainly would not be planning to spend millions to keep it relevant with a major expansion that's being planned. If Elvis was fading then he wouldn't trend on twitter which is mostly used by young adults to mid aged people.

[KPM]

Washington and Lincoln are remembered but they aren't remembered as much as Elvis has been.

If 20 years from now Elvis is viewed strictly as a historical figure like Washington and Lincoln that would still be a drop in popularity and relevance for him.

My comparison to Bing Crosby wasn't meant to mean that him and Elvis were a like i'm very aware that they had different careers and they took different roads.

I can see similarities with how Bing Crosby fall out of favor with the public and is no longer a popular figure.

The same things that caused Bing Crosby to become obscure and irrelevant could quite possibly be the same reasons that Elvis falls from popularity in the years to come.

Regardless of the differences between them in terms of charisma or singing style.

The Carter Family were pioneers of country music like Elvis was a pioneer of rock n' roll.Yet The Carter Family are not considered important by todays country music fans even though they are.

There may come a time when Elvis is viewed like that.
We are not really talking about relevance or even popularity-this thread is about being forgotten totally. Elvis today is not a relevant creative force in music-but he is still a "recognised very sellable, force in music" Charisma and talent keep that going-can't make it clearer than that. Is Elvis still popular-I have made it clear-he is not as popular as he was alive in his heydey-but thats a far cry from being forgotten and legacy over.
This site is proof he has younger fans, the faces at Graceland prove he has younger fans...not just 57 year olds like me-why should another 20 years change his ability to reach portions of the younger crowd....he always has.....you can only go by what you see as example in life on any subject.......has Elvis gained fans every years since 55-yes....why should 20 years suddenly change that fact?
Why should someone dead 35 years be still sellable-still drawing young crowds to concerts that show his image on a screen, still promoted by his label even though no new music is in the vaults...because he sells...in order to sell you must have an audience....in order to have an audience you must attract people by some talent-to attract young people in any numbers and be dead....is a huge accomplishment.
To get a record label to spend any cash at all to promote an artist dead 35 years with no new material available is astonding.
To get an investor to spend 100 million in cash plus stock options, for a 99 year lease to a home and for the image and likeness of an artist dead 35 years (and not even getting the music or film work of that artist) is more than astonding-its totally never happened in history-until Elvis...if all of this does not translate-U-N-I-Q-U-E.......one of a kind-all past rules do not apply-then I'm missing something.
Once again Crosby did not have the Charisma-Crosby was not a cultural historical game changer-so the reasons Crosby did not stand the test of time are less likely to affect Elvis. No one has jumped at the chance to spend 100 million-or 1 dollar to set up a deal for his likeness and image for the next century....................nor any other artist or entertainer I am aware of.
The Carters were indeed pioneers of Country Music-but their relevance was not felt beyond the US-unlike the huge changes the world saw with Elvis and rock-huge, huge difference. I am not putting them down-they were great artists and naturally June was a great comedian and singer with Johnny Cash.... but there is not worldwide connection for the Carters-as Elvis had and has.

Even though an artist like Garth Brooks is huge in the US his sales worldwide are not impressive and his chart success in other countries is not also.
George Strait is claimed to have more number 1s than any artist in history-but only on the country charts-not the overall charts so his claim is less weighty and important.
Elvis will not just die away-he literally died-but still his legacy thrives.....without owning his own music or films-he still thrives.
60 million in earnings-Dead 35 years-how can that not be thriving.
Sony just spent probably a couple hundred thousand dollars on the PFAP release of Garden shows and 8mm film...what dead artist gets that kind of treatment (even though I thought they did a lousy job of promotion and distribution)

[Brian]

Is anyone going to admit that i have a point and what i say might happen.

You are all going to sit there and say that Elvis Presley will always have the popularity and relevance that he has without conceding that i might be right.

I find VivaElvis posts weird and disturbing because he just dismisses my points totally without thought or consideration.

Does Viva Elvis not understand how old i am or how long i've been an Elvis fan.

I am not a young man or a new Elvis fan.

It is clear that VivaElvis doesn't understand my point.

It is obvious he is too young or doesn't understand.

VivaElvis is talking about Elvis right now but that's not the point.

P.S. VivaElvis is crazy.

[vivaelvis]

Is anyone going to admit that i have a point and what i say might happen.

You are all going to sit there and say that Elvis Presley will always have the popularity and relevance that he has without conceding that i might be right.

I find VivaElvis posts weird and disturbing because he just dismisses my points totally without thought or consideration.

Does Viva Elvis not understand how old i am or how long i've been an Elvis fan.

I am not a young man or a new Elvis fan.

It is clear that VivaElvis doesn't understand my point.

It is obvious he is too young or doesn't understand.

VivaElvis is talking about Elvis right now but that's not the point.

P.S. VivaElvis is crazy.

Brian, all I'm going to say to that is when Graceland closes then you can make that claim. You sound mentally challenged.

[KPM]

Is anyone going to admit that i have a point and what i say might happen.

You are all going to sit there and say that Elvis Presley will always have the popularity and relevance that he has without conceding that i might be right.I find VivaElvis posts weird and disturbing because he just dismisses my points totally without thought or consideration.

Does Viva Elvis not understand how old i am or how long i've been an Elvis fan.

I am not a young man or a new Elvis fan.

It is clear that VivaElvis doesn't understand my point.

It is obvious he is too young or doesn't understand.

VivaElvis is talking about Elvis right now but that's not the point.

P.S. VivaElvis is crazy.
Brian..you must believe in your points...but I also believe in mine-I have 60 years of data, 60 years of experience to compare your scenerio of Elvis being forgotten and Elvis' ability to gain fans and then.... ask myself does it sound logical that after a proven 60 years track record of survival (even after death) that he will just be forgotten. I just do not see it as a possibility. I see his legacy growing each year as fans die new fans will be gained...thats the way of the last 60 years
I do not say Elvis will have relevance nor the same popularity in the future-I have indeed conceded he is not relevant to current music-but he is still a hugely sellable musical force that has hundreds of millions invested into his legacy over the last 10 years-and he gains new fans every year (why invest in someone who does not?)

As far as personal attacks on anyone-thats not how we are here you know that my friend.

[Brian]

Now is that polite to call me mentally challenged Viva Elvis.

[Brian]

I respect your point of view Ken.

I'm having trouble with another poster.

[vivaelvis]

I respect your point of view Ken.

I'm having trouble with another poster.

I have done nothing but point out facts. You on the other hand have chosen not to hear them. That's your problem. And you are acting like you are mentally challenged. It wasn't a personal attack.

[Brian]

Oh B.S.

ViVaElvis is a mentally challenged weenie that knows nothing.

That wasn't a personal attack.

[kathy parkinson]

Well................I am one of the original fans,if i am still here in 20 years,which i pray i am,and if this site is still here,which i hope it is,then i will post and say not ALL of us have gone.

[KPM]

Well................I am one of the original fans,if i am still here in 20 years,which i pray i am,and if this site is still here,which i hope it is,then i will post and say not ALL of us have gone.
That makes two of us who want to be here in 20 years(y) I wish us both good health and luck!

[Diane]

Doubtful that I will be here in twenty years but the younger fans can take it from there.:P

[Kajo]

I don't even know how some people can doubt that Elvis will ever be forgotten. He isn't (wasn't) just any other star. Elvis Presley was a phenomenon. Something that comes up maybe every 200 years (if). He will never be forgotten.

[vivaelvis]

IS Elvis fading?

According to someone who was there. Katy Perry at the Grammy's said Elvis is "next to God". And they played A Little Less Conversation during the commercial breaks at the Staples Center in LA. It was posted on Elvis.com's podcast Thursday.

Katy is one of THE top superstars in music today!

I think the appropriate question is, will The Beatles or Michael Jackson be forgotten in 50 years? Most likely yes. Those acts were great and historical, but limited. Whereas Elvis's God-like image and sex appeal alone will be a driving force for generations to come. Only an ***** or an Elvis hater would think otherwise.

[King Of The Whole World]

Well................I am one of the original fans,if i am still here in 20 years,which i pray i am,and if this site is still here,which i hope it is,then i will post and say not ALL of us have gone.

I hope you are too!!

[King Of The Whole World]

That makes two of us who want to be here in 20 years(y) I wish us both good health and luck!


Doubtful that I will be here in twenty years but the younger fans can take it from there.:P

I hope both of you. Keep moving is one of the keys.

[kathy parkinson]

Why thank you.

[kathy parkinson]

I wish you good health,and luck too.

[Turbo]

What do you think about this article? Do you think Elvis will be forgotten in 15 or 20 years?

I'm one of these fans that were not born until after Elvis died. The times I have been to Graceland I see a huge mix of people young, old and many nationalities.

http://technorati.com/social-media/article/its-now-or-never-to-rename/



The article rings true to me, the author is correct. There are too many people who don't generally care. With the author's example of today's world, the romance, with Elvis' songs being the example, is gone from the feel of most lyrics, now Americanised in the new Reality TV, driven by money, culture, that a lot of people seem to accept, run by the chosen few.

Gone are the days of family first and loving thy neighbour and friends. Some go out, sit over their phones and ignore each other for a start and not think about how our lives are being run, or attempted to be run, by social media and the powers that be who love being Big Brother.

People need to take a page out of the Romantic Cultures and get back to what matters. Engaging in each other, totally, and caring, not just for ourselves, but those around us, including the animals.

[KPM]

The article rings true to me, the author is correct. There are too many people who don't generally care. With the author's example of today's world, the romance, with Elvis' songs being the example, is gone from the feel of most lyrics, now Americanised in the new Reality TV, driven by money, culture, that a lot of people seem to accept, run by the chosen few.

Gone are the days of family first and loving thy neighbour and friends. Some go out, sit over their phones and ignore each other for a start and not think about how our lives are being run, or attempted to be run, by social media and the powers that be who love being Big Brother.

People need to take a page out of the Romantic Cultures and get back to what matters. Engaging in each other, totally, and caring, not just for ourselves, but those around us, including the animals.
I know in Middle America go to any young persons wedding-and romance seems to be embraced by those in attendance...go to the reception and you still hear "Can't Help Falling In Love", or "Love Me Tender" among many other romantic old and new love songs being played by the DJ or by the local band playing the reception.
Perhaps newer music does not seem to be romantic in hip hop. rap etc...but listen to country songs that many love-its certainly still a romantic feel.
Urban music may have lost romance-but not the heart of the US IMO
In my household Family is always first-same with my 20 something children I hope we are not the exceptions...its a dire scenario if we are.

[JRtherealJR]

So this article is speculating that Elvis may be forgotten because the internet and social media have become so big?

I don't get that logic.

Surely the fact that so many millions of people use the internet so much would mean that Elvis' music, films and videos are more readily accessible to anyone than ever before?

[Snake Eyes]

So this article is speculating that Elvis may be forgotten because the internet and social media have become so big?

I don't get that logic.

Surely the fact that so many millions of people use the internet so much would mean that Elvis' music, films and videos are more readily accessible to anyone than ever before?

Exactly, it's how I found this place, got to know about the Elvis in Concert tours and pretty much loads of other stuff.

[Diane]

I hope both of you. Keep moving is one of the keys.

Thank you. You are so right about keep moving, I sure feel the difference if I don't.:D I still believe and always will that Elvis will be there for a lot of people for many years to come and that his name will be in the historical books as well as the artist who changed the history of music.

[vivaelvis]

Here's more proof that Elvis is NOT fading and is still relevant in the pop music world. (y)


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/idol-worship/american-idol-kris-allen-6-422024

[Snake Eyes]

I've never heard of that guy Viva.

[King Of The Whole World]

I've never heard of that guy Viva.

He is one of the American Idol (can't remember if he won) but he has not had a lot of success.

[Snake Eyes]

He is one of the American Idol (can't remember if he won) but he has not had a lot of success.

Well then that's why I don't know him.

[debtdbruno]

I don't even know how some people can doubt that Elvis will ever be forgotten. He isn't (wasn't) just any other star. Elvis Presley was a phenomenon. Something that comes up maybe every 200 years (if). He will never be forgotten.


excellent.....very succulently put(y)(y)(y)

[debtdbruno]

Well then that's why I don't know him.

Jen........who's that in your avatar?.........

[elvia7]

I don't even know how some people can doubt that Elvis will ever be forgotten. He isn't (wasn't) just any other star. Elvis Presley was a phenomenon. Something that comes up maybe every 200 years (if). He will never be forgotten.



Thank you Kajo, I always emphasize ... ELVIS is not an artist, He is PHENOMENON!!!!

[Brian]

I think the appropriate question is, will The Beatles or Michael Jackson be forgotten in 50 years? Most likely yes. Those acts were great and historical, but limited.

oh geez VivaElvis.

[kathy parkinson]

oh geez VivaElvis.
Count to ten Brian.

[elvia7]

Count to ten Brian.

Good idea , Kathy...But will it help;)

[Diane]

Love your humor Kathy :lol::lol::lol:...good advice Brian:P

[Snake Eyes]

Jen........who's that in your avatar?.........

Tom Hardy :wub:

[Kajo]

Tom Hardy :wub:

I like him. He played in the movie Bronson about the most notorious prisoner. He played it so well and the movie was a great biopic. He's truly a great actor. I've also seen him in RocknRolla, Star Trek Nemesis and the last Batman where he played the character Bane.

[Snake Eyes]

I like him. He played in the movie Bronson about the most notorious prisoner. He played it so well and the movie was a great biopic. He's truly a great actor. I've also seen him in RocknRolla, Star Trek Nemesis and the last Batman where he played the character Bane.

Couldn't agree more. You should check out Warrior, great film. He's also very good in The Take and the most recent adaption of Wuthering Heights, can't get enough of the guy.

[debtdbruno]

Couldn't agree more. You should check out Warrior, great film. He's also very good in The Take and the most recent adaption of Wuthering Heights, can't get enough of the guy.


((duhh))........never heard of him:doh::doh::hmm::hmm::lmfao::lmfao:

[Snake Eyes]

((duhh))........never heard of him:doh::doh::hmm::hmm::lmfao::lmfao:

Check him out Deb now!!!!!!! :lol:

[debtdbruno]

well......he's certainly got some nice abs:P:P:P

[vivaelvis]

I think these amazing pictures show just how popular and recognized Elvis is around the world. These are all massive crowds at Graceland within the past year. Notice all of the children, teenagers and young adults in these pictures. He's not fading in any way, shape or form.

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/100816/GAL-10Aug16-5452/media/PHO-10Aug16-244946.jpg

http://www.memphisdailynews.com/Editorial_Images/12803.jpg?maxWidth=800&maxHeight=600

http://www.parkersspace.com/Albums/images/Mississippi_19.jpg

[Kajo]

I think these amazing pictures show just how popular and recognized Elvis is around the world. These are all massive crowds at Graceland within the past year. Notice all of the children, teenagers and young adults in these pictures. He's not fading in any way, shape or form.

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/100816/GAL-10Aug16-5452/media/PHO-10Aug16-244946.jpg


http://www.memphisdailynews.com/Editorial_Images/12803.jpg?maxWidth=800&maxHeight=600

http://www.parkersspace.com/Albums/images/Mississippi_19.jpg




Completely agree with you vivaelvis on everything you said. This phenomenon will NEVER BE FORGOTTEN!!!! Closed chapter!

[vivaelvis]

I was just watching a new show on MTV called World Of Jenks and there was a teenage boy on there and in his bedroom were three Elvis collectors plates hanging on the wall surrounded by photos of his favorite singers of today. How cool is that? (y)

Edit: At the end of the show he had re-arranged his Elvis plates for some reason. The Aloha plate on the far left, 68 Comeback on far right and a 50's Elvis plate in the middle. Also he had a framed photo of Elvis in Aloha From Hawaii on the wall above them. He obviously is an Elvis fan and great to see for such a young kid. I think he was 16.

[King Of The Whole World]

I was just watching a new show on MTV called World Of Jenks and there was a teenage boy on there and in his bedroom were three Elvis collectors plates hanging on the wall surrounded by photos of his favorite singers of today. How cool is that? (y)

Edit: At the end of the show he had re-arranged his Elvis plates for some reason. The Aloha plate on the far left, 68 Comeback on far right and a 50's Elvis plate in the middle. Also he had a framed photo of Elvis in Aloha From Hawaii on the wall above them. He obviously is an Elvis fan and great to see for such a young kid. I think he was 16.

Very cool! I have never seen the show.