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vivaelvis
09-03-2012, 11:41 AM
With the 40th anniversary of the historically groundbreaking satellite concert event, dubbed Aloha From Hawaii coming in January, this is the time to honor it and to give it its overdue respect with a deluxe edition by Sony Music. This would be the perfect follow-up to Prince From Another Planet. The setlists would be different from the MSG shows' setlist and would already be known worldwide as a monumental performance.

I think it would be smart for Sony and EPE to team up for a CD/DVD project with a documentary that talks about how the stage and production came together, how Elvis got into physical shape for the show, backstage news footage, etc as the highlight of the set. They have never done this and it's time they do. Remix the original two shows like they have for the MSG set and present it in a 3-disc deluxe edition set and a 2-disc Legacy Edition set. Just put a little more effort (and money) into the booklet with color photos and not cheap black & white. (n)

Below is my proposal.

DISC 1 (CD) *The Alternate Aloha Dress Rehearsal Concert-plus the 5 Hawaiian bonus songs* ( January 12, 1973)

DISC 2 (CD) *The Aloha From Hawaii Concert (in its entirety with long instrumental ending)* (January 14, 1973)

DISC 3 (DVD) *The Making Of Aloha From Hawaii* (Documentary)


Or....Sony could work like hell to find the lost soundboards to one of the November 18 1972 shows in Hawaii which led up to the Aloha special. I'm sure some private collector has it and for the right price would give it up to Sony. Especially knowing that Sony is willing to make an offer on lost material like they have for the new PFAP set. Then, EPE could do their own documentary on the special.(y)

debtdbruno
09-03-2012, 11:48 AM
fantastic idea...........will it happen?.......Mmmmm, probably not

A lot of fans are not fond of this concert, rarely watch it.........I think they don't give enough credit for the situation he was in.....he looked amazing, a tight performance with a wide choice of songs........and the poor guy was a bag of nerves

Snake Eyes
09-03-2012, 11:51 AM
With the 40th anniversary of the historically groundbreaking satellite concert event, dubbed Aloha From Hawaii coming in January, this is the time to honor it and to give it its overdue respect with a deluxe edition by Sony Music. This would be the perfect follow-up to Prince From Another Planet. The setlists would be different from the MSG shows' setlist and would already be known worldwide as a monumental performance.

I think it would be smart for Sony and EPE to team up for a CD/DVD project with a documentary that talks about how the stage and production came together, how Elvis got into physical shape for the show, backstage news footage, etc as the highlight of the set. They have never done this and it's time they do. Remix the original two shows like they have for the MSG set and present it in a 3-disc deluxe edition set and a 2-disc Legacy Edition set. Just put a little more effort (and money) into the booklet with color photos and not cheap black & white. (n)

Below is my proposal.

DISC 1 (CD) *The Alternate Aloha Dress Rehearsal Concert-plus the 5 Hawaiian bonus songs* ( January 12, 1973)

DISC 2 (CD) *The Aloha From Hawaii Concert (in its entirety with long instrumental ending)* (January 14, 1973)

DISC 3 (DVD) *The Making Of Aloha From Hawaii* (Documentary)


Or....Sony could work like hell to find the lost soundboards to one of the November 18 1972 shows in Hawaii which led up to the Aloha special. I'm sure some private collector has it and for the right price would give it up to Sony. Especially knowing that Sony is willing to make an offer on lost material like they have for the new PFAP set. Then, EPE could do their own documentary on the special.(y)

Fascinating idea and one that I'd be very willing to see come into fruition. Aloha is very special to me and I'd love to see something of this nature done with it.

vivaelvis
09-03-2012, 12:09 PM
fantastic idea...........will it happen?.......Mmmmm, probably not

A lot of fans are not fond of this concert, rarely watch it.........I think they don't give enough credit for the situation he was in.....he looked amazing, a tight performance with a wide choice of songs........and the poor guy was a bag of nerves

I know what you mean about the fans not liking it. But they seem to forget that it was never meant to be an actual typical Elvis type show. The whole purpose was for it to be a benefit concert to raise money for a cancer fund for Hawaiian native Kui Lee. Elvis was nervous because of the pressures on his shoulders to deliver a stellar performance, in which he did.

However, this set, just like Prince From Another Planet, is not meant for the everyday Elvis fanatic. It's mainly for the general public to discover parts of Elvis that they haven't heard before. Much of the public today have only seen bits and pieces of the Aloha show. I think an in dept look into it is well deserved and needed.

vivaelvis
09-03-2012, 12:10 PM
Fascinating idea and one that I'd be very willing to see come into fruition. Aloha is very special to me and I'd love to see something of this nature done with it.

Thanks! It only makes sense to focus on this since it is arguably his biggest accomplishment and a milestone accomplishment at that.

debtdbruno
09-03-2012, 12:11 PM
I know what you mean about the fans not liking it. But they seem to forget that it was never meant to be an actual typical Elvis type show. The whole purpose was for it to be a benefit concert to raise money for a cancer fund for Hawaiian native Kui Lee. Elvis was nervous because of the pressures on his shoulders to deliver a stellar performance, in which he did.

However, this set, just like Prince From Another Planet, is not meant for the everyday Elvis fanatic. It's mainly for the general public to discover parts of Elvis that they haven't heard before. Much of the public today have only seen bits and pieces of the Aloha show. I think an in dept look into it is well deserved and needed.


Thanks! It only makes sense to focus on this since it is arguably his biggest accomplishment and a milestone accomplishment at that.

I quite agree.........

dennyelvis
09-03-2012, 12:13 PM
How do u all rate the audio quality from the DELUXE DVDS does it stand as the best audio for the shows out there ?

Jumpsuit Junkie
09-03-2012, 12:28 PM
I've got to be honest and say I bought the deluxe Aloha DVD when it was released a few years ago and I've only watched it two or three times! Elvis looks great and at his Jumpsuited pinnacle but I just find the show technically good but not exciting. There can be little doubt of the accomplishment for the time, however I can sit and watch TTWII all day long and never get tired of seeing it.

I'm not adverse to your suggestion though as I would love crystal clear audio of both shows and a good documentary with out-takes. A behind the scenes focus would make a nice addition to the collection.

King Of The Whole World
09-03-2012, 01:06 PM
I would like to see a documentary on the Aloha show but I don't want to buy a whole new package just to see the documentary. If I were to buy the package there needs to be something in Disc 1 and 2 that I have not seen.

I guess I must be one of the few that likes the Aloha show. I will say that I prefer the rehearsal show over the live broadcast. Elvis puts on a better performance in the rehearsal show, a lot more like the Elvis we know. The highlights for me are It's Over, American Trilogy, What Now My Love, My Way and Fever on the rehearsal show.

ELVIS_
09-03-2012, 01:15 PM
I'm sure they have tons of video footage from different angles as well. They could re-edit the footage and re-mix the audio to an all new high.
People on Youtube have already remixed the Soundtrack with the Video and some did an awesome job.

-Does anyone know if they recorded the Rehearsal for Aloha where Elvis is wearing the MSG press conference jacket in the empty concert hall?
(not the back up show two nights before in case anything went wrong with the airing of the program)

So was the remix of "That's The Way It Is" (Special Edition) the only acceptable remixed project of Video and Sound?
Would be nice to see, "Elvis On Tour" and "Aloha From Hawaii" done the same way.

ELVIS_
09-03-2012, 01:25 PM
I've got to be honest and say I bought the deluxe Aloha DVD when it was released a few years ago and I've only watched it two or three times! Elvis looks great and at his Jumpsuited pinnacle but I just find the show technically good but not exciting. There can be little doubt of the accomplishment for the time, however I can sit and watch TTWII all day long and never get tired of seeing it.

I'm not adverse to your suggestion though as I would love crystal clear audio of both shows and a good documentary with out-takes. A behind the scenes focus would make a nice addition to the collection.

I agree in regards to performance. Cool jumpsuit, He lost weight and looked good but earlier and even later fan filmed footage of him, he displayed more enthusiasm. The added songs made it even worst. All in the name of adding more Commercial slots.

kathy parkinson
09-03-2012, 01:25 PM
I enjoyed the concert,don't forget Elvis had to complete the show before the satellite ended,so he couldn't interact as much with the audience.

debtdbruno
09-03-2012, 03:14 PM
I like this so much I have the deluxe dvd......but I have it on my sky+ box......just flip it on........love it

Sure, he's not as 'active', but as Kathy said, he was on a tight time schedule

hounddog
09-03-2012, 03:36 PM
they could use the Japanese filmed version form what I've heard it is shot from differnt angles than the released version. Part of teh documentry coudl include the shows he did in Hawaii in 1972 I've read they were like a practice run for the Aloha show.

JRtherealJR
09-03-2012, 06:16 PM
DISC 1 (CD) *The Alternate Aloha Dress Rehearsal Concert-plus the 5 Hawaiian bonus songs* ( January 12, 1973)

DISC 2 (CD) *The Aloha From Hawaii Concert (in its entirety with long instrumental ending)* (January 14, 1973)
documentary on the special.(y)

I would put the 5 Hawaiian bonus songs onto DISC 2 which would be more in line with historical accuracy as Elvis recorded these songs after the main show.

And would it kill them to FINALLY release the Aloha concert with the missing 8 seconds of Elvis footage from the show included? It was shown on the Japanese broadcast, so why has it always been cut out of all official video/DVD releases?

boquo2
09-03-2012, 06:40 PM
I prefer the sponeeneity and fun of other concerts both before and after

my boy
09-04-2012, 01:12 AM
I think it's inevitable that ALOHA will get similar treatment to "Prince From Another Planet" – what an exciting prospect!!!

Plus the Hilton press conference cleaned up from the ALOHA special Edition (Easter Egg) –– that would be something –– Elvis in the cool white suit and those amazing white/brown check boots...

Tony Trout
09-04-2012, 04:54 AM
If they ever re-release it, I just want them to get the stupid audio RIGHT where we can hear the background singers WITH Elvis and not like they are in a barrel somewhere else in the arena! That's one part where they really screwed up, IMO! Being a performer myself, I'm like Elvis: "If my vocals are out front, I want the backing singers OUT FRONT WITH ME!"

Snake Eyes
09-04-2012, 11:45 AM
Am I wrong in thinking that this was also his 2nd biggest live audience in one sitting?

debtdbruno
09-04-2012, 11:51 AM
I could be wrong Jenni, but the HIC (Neil Blaisdell) isn't that big inside. I've not been inside (only wrapped myself around Elvis outside.......lol) think it holds around 2000 people

Snake Eyes
09-04-2012, 12:02 PM
I could be wrong Jenni, but the HIC (Neil Blaisdell) isn't that big inside. I've not been inside (only wrapped myself around Elvis outside.......lol) think it holds around 2000 people

According to the pedia, it can hold up to 8,800 for stage events. I know you can't trust everything you read on wiki, but if that statement is true, was this his 2nd biggest audience?

JRtherealJR
09-04-2012, 12:08 PM
The audience attendance for Aloha was 6000.

It would have been more but for the huge set and backdrop which took up a lot of seats. I have heard estimates that the set actually took up 2000 seats.

So Aloha was far from being Elvis' second-biggest live audience.

Snake Eyes
09-04-2012, 12:17 PM
The audience attendance for Aloha was 6000.

It would have been more but for the huge set and backdrop which took up a lot of seats. I have heard estimates that the set actually took up 2000 seats.

So Aloha was far from being Elvis' second-biggest live audience.

Thanks JR. So what was the 2nd? I've read the Pontiac in 1975(?) was his biggest audience attendance, is this correct?

JRtherealJR
09-04-2012, 12:43 PM
Thanks JR. So what was the 2nd? I've read the Pontiac in 1975(?) was his biggest audience attendance, is this correct?

Yes Pontiac '75 had 60,500 in attendance and was Elvis' biggest audience ever.

Elvis' second-biggest audience was probably the 8pm show at the Houston Astrodome on 3rd March 1974. Attendance: 44,175.

I just wanted to add something regarding any future releases of Aloha- it would be nice to have recent interviews with those people who worked on the show: Of course Marty Pasetta & also Ray Klausen the art director who designed the stage and all the flashing lights would be 2 good people to start with.

And it would be great if they could track down the Don Ho girls who appeared in the filler scenes and get their memories of working on the show. Even if they never got to meet Elvis, it would be interesting to hear them talk about watching the show when it aired etc.

It's possible that the TCB band have already been filmed talking about Aloha for a future release. If it's true that they were all interviewed recently for the Prince From Another Planet set, this would have been a good opportunity to kill 2 birds with 1 stone and get their Aloha interviews on record as well.

KPM
09-04-2012, 02:41 PM
I'm sure they have tons of video footage from different angles as well. They could re-edit the footage and re-mix the audio to an all new high.
People on Youtube have already remixed the Soundtrack with the Video and some did an awesome job.

-Does anyone know if they recorded the Rehearsal for Aloha where Elvis is wearing the MSG press conference jacket in the empty concert hall?
(not the back up show two nights before in case anything went wrong with the airing of the program)

So was the remix of "That's The Way It Is" (Special Edition) the only acceptable remixed project of Video and Sound?
Would be nice to see, "Elvis On Tour" and "Aloha From Hawaii" done the same way.
This has been debated before-and supposedly officially the cameras were not dedicated cameras that continued to film from that angle and had their own tape machine for the entire show-direction for which shots were used happened as the show was being done.
Some have suggested that this is not the case and that other footage exists-but the Deluxe Aloha DVD set supposedly contains all the footage taped.
If there is any other footage it should pop up next year somewhere.
The outtakes for TTWII and EOT came out about 8-10 years ago in bootleg form, the EOT special has been out in bootleg form for years also.....I would think that if any unseen Aloha footage was available it would have also made its way out in some form in the last 10 years...

KPM
09-04-2012, 02:43 PM
they could use the Japanese filmed version form what I've heard it is shot from differnt angles than the released version. Part of teh documentry coudl include the shows he did in Hawaii in 1972 I've read they were like a practice run for the Aloha show.
I have seen the Japanese version and saw little difference.

KPM
09-04-2012, 02:45 PM
I will admit the Quadradisc sound had much better sound to my ears when it was played on a Quad system-but without the Quad system the sound was not really impressive on the record.

KPM
09-04-2012, 02:50 PM
The final decision on this idea-will probably depend upon the success of the "Prince from Another Planet" sales.....and the Catch 22 is that the sales of "Prince" will depend IMO on how well its promoted and the quality of the video footage.......if word of mouth pans the release-fans will not buy and that will put reflective pause into the powers at Sony on a new SE Aloha re-issue.
As I pointed out 30#1s had one full year of promotion that escalated as the release neared-we just found out about Prince..... in the last couple months so promotion has been lacking.

Snake Eyes
09-05-2012, 12:11 PM
Yes Pontiac '75 had 60,500 in attendance and was Elvis' biggest audience ever[/B].

Elvis' second-biggest audience was probably the 8pm show at the Houston Astrodome on 3rd March 1974. Attendance: 44,175.

I just wanted to add something regarding any future releases of Aloha- it would be nice to have recent interviews with those people who worked on the show: Of course Marty Pasetta & also Ray Klausen the art director who designed the stage and all the flashing lights would be 2 good people to start with.

And it would be great if they could track down the Don Ho girls who appeared in the filler scenes and get their memories of working on the show. Even if they never got to meet Elvis, it would be interesting to hear them talk about watching the show when it aired etc.

It's possible that the TCB band have already been filmed talking about Aloha for a future release. If it's true that they were all interviewed recently for the Prince From Another Planet set, this would have been a good opportunity to kill 2 birds with 1 stone and get their Aloha interviews on record as well.

Thanks again for the concert info, pretty impressive stats. The rest of your post, yep I agree, it would be a nice inclusion if they could or have got recent interviews for future use.