Elvis death cover-up....very disturbing

[vivaelvis]

Back in 1979, the popular American news show 20/20 ran a special 1 hour episode on the death of Elvis and the discovered cover-up. After watching this on Youtube (from a thread on FECC) and seeing the evidence that has to this day been sugarcaoted and hidden form the Elvis world, I am now more than ever convinced that Elvis was MURDERED. If will have to watch it for your self and then come up with a final conclusion. The fact that Dr Nick prescribed over 5,000 pills for Elvis from 1975-77 at a rate of 25 per day, the fact that he was broke and needed money from Elvis, the fact that denied it when confronted when records showed that he did, the fact that all of the content (drugs) pumped out of Elvis' stomach during the autopsy were immediately dissolved of and not studied, and the fact that the autopsy did NOT reveal nor determine by professionals of any heart failure or cause of death at all, tells me that there was a plot to cover up the death without a criminal investigation.Therefor, involuntary manslaughter by Dr. Nick.

Too much evidence was uncovered back then that to this day is still being brushed under the rug. Below are all 6 parts of this 1 hour special investigation. It is sad, depressing and disturbing to say the least.:'(


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB74JaVoWLA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4FnB-tmpY&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWtv7T2iBdo&feature=relmfu

[vivaelvis]

Here are parts 4, 5, and 6.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUI2jxQPP7Q&feature=fvwrel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJnER1-dgKA&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n2WB11KSw0&feature=relmfu

[Tommy]

Let this rest in peace................ELVIS RIP............God bless HIM. (y)

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[kathy parkinson]

Tommy, you are so right my friend. Just play his music, watch your dvd's,and move on, that's all.

[Tommy]

Tommy, you are so right my friend. Just play his music, watch your dvd's,and move on, that's all.

(y)......................Thank you very, very much my friend Kathy. (y)

[spanish eyes]

Vivaelvis thanks for posting but I don't want to watch it cos I got upset seeing how Elvis was at the end of his life, how his once lovely blue eyes changed to black lifeless eyes. I would rather celebrate Elvis life with the legacy of his music that he left for us all to enjoy, than to watch something that would upset me even more and it doesn't do any good, cos we can't bring Elvis back.

[elvislina]

Let this rest in peace................ELVIS RIP............God bless HIM. (y)

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Great words Tommy. i agree

[Turbo]

Rest in peace, Elvis.

I always, so badly, wanted to believe that you are still alive, as it would help with the pain.

Seeing your coffin photo, after seeing the "still" of other people in their coffin who have passed away, I know you are gone, I wish you weren't, so very much.

You were so sick, yet you tried to keep going for everyone else. You were a wonderful human being, gone too soon. They take the good ones early, I truly believe that.

[rocknroll]

Well, I gues if they can throw MJ's doctor in the slammer for essentially the same thing, then I think Dr. Nick got off easy. He should have seen some jail time as he (along with Elvis himself) was most responsible for Elvis' death. Homicide, perhaps. Murder, no.

[KPM]

Viva this has been the subject of numerous threads, they almost always lead to arguments, they never change anyones mind on their opinion and they cause ill will.
You can see my own thoughts upon this by rereading numerous posts over the last 10 years on the subject in those dozens of threads.
To sum up my thoughts to save you the time-yes some things were done incorrectly, yes some people wanted to protect the memory of Elvis, yes people reacted incorrectly. But there was no grand thought out scheme-people reacted in the moment of great shock, stress, and horror. Some were use to protecting secrets of Elvis that could have harmed his public image-they continued in that vain even in death.
Elvis was a friend to many in Memphis, police, people at BMH etc-he was loved.
All I can add is that in the 1994 investigation of Nick-the state asked world renowned forensics expert Dr. Joseph Davis to look at all the autopsy findings..... lab results, cultures, bloodwork, physical samples, and after months of review he found that Elvis died of a massive heart attack that had nothing to do with drugs.......but he added that long term overuse of prescribed medicines had weakened his system and probably brought upon an early death.
Heart attacks happen to the most healthy of individuals, totally unexpectidly, totally without warning.... athletes have them super healthy hearts and many times the reason is unsure.
Why bring this up right right before Elvis Week.... where everyone is geared to celebrate the life and accomplishments of Elvis in a joyful way?
Actual statement by Dr Davis:
'There is nothing, in any of the data that supports a death from drugs. In fact, everything points to a sudden, violent heart attack.'

Dr Joseph Davis who was considered a legend in the pathology field from Dade County Florida.

[vivaelvis]

I'm sorry but if you decided not to watch the 6-part video then you do not know what was shown, or what was said and uncovered. Vasco Smith went to his grave claiming that Elvis did NOT die from heart failure. Dr Nick today claims that it was due to "constipation". Not true at all. They would have known that 35 years ago instead of supposedly finding out years later. The autopsy photos, and photos taken of Elvis lying on his bathroom floor dead, are still missing. I bet you didn't know about that, did you?

Like Rock&Roll said, if MJ's doctor can go to jail for practically the same thing, then Nick got off easy. Even a retired police chief of LA said it was a cover up and was somewhat murder.

I know it's a sensitive subject with some fans. But if he were your father, wouldn't you want to know what really happened and if a cover up was made to protect someone's profession and freedom? I know that I sure as hell would. And that is what happened. A cover up was made to prevent Nick and others who prescribed legal but illegal doses of medicine to this individual which was the cause of his death from being prosecuted in the murder of the biggest star to ever live.

Watch the videos and you will see the whole death of Elvis in a much different light. It will upset you that those doctors got away, but it will at least give you closure, 35 years later. I know it did for me because now I know in my heart, he didn't kill himself nor did a heart attack take him. It was irresponsible dosage prescribed by his doctor that caused his brain to shut down leading to his death. Therefor, it was murder.

Elvis Aron Presley was murdered.

[vivaelvis]

Viva this has been the subject of numerous threads, they almost always lead to arguments, they never change anyones mind on their opinion and they cause ill will.
You can see my own thoughts upon this by rereading numerous posts over the last 10 years on the subject in those dozens of threads.
To sum up my thoughts to save you the time-yes some things were done incorrectly, yes some people wanted to protect the memory of Elvis, yes people reacted incorrectly. But there was no grand thought out scheme-people reacted in the moment of great shock, stress, and horror. Some were use to protecting secrets of Elvis that could have harmed his public image-they continued in that vain even in death.
Elvis was a friend to many in Memphis, police, people at BMH etc-he was loved.
All I can add is that in the 1994 investigation of Nick-the state asked world renowned forensics expert Dr. Joseph Davis to look at all the autopsy findings..... lab results, cultures, bloodwork, physical samples, and after months of review he found that Elvis died of a massive heart attack that had nothing to do with drugs.......but he added that long term overuse of prescribed medicines had weakened his system and probably brought upon an early death.
Heart attacks happen to the most healthy of individuals, totally unexpectidly, totally without warning.... athletes have them super healthy hearts and many times the reason is unsure.
Why bring this up right right before Elvis Week.... where everyone is geared to celebrate the life and accomplishments of Elvis in a joyful way?
Actual statement by Dr Davis:
'There is nothing, in any of the data that supports a death from drugs. In fact, everything points to a sudden, violent heart attack.'

Dr Joseph Davis who was considered a legend in the pathology field from Dade County Florida.

Why bring it up? Because to this day, it is still being covered up for reason. I guarantee you once those involved have passed and cannot be held responsible then the truth will be revealed to the world. Remember, Vernon demanded that the real results from the autopsy to remain locked away until August 16, 2027. But I think they will be revealed before then.

[KPM]

Viva the autopsy photos would be kept under the strictest lock and key-now why would they do that???
Because they are not meant for you or me or anyone to see-and unscruptuleous people would beg borrow or steal to get their hands on them.
Dr. Davis saw the entire autopsy results and all materials related to them-unless you and others are insinuating that he would intentionally alter his true findings.....world renowned forensics expert, testified before Congress on drug related issues, has a spotless record...had no connection to the Elvis world until he was asked (because of his credentials) to go over the findings of the autopsy.
You speculate, many speculate....but this very interesting and informative bit of info from 1994 is always lost in the shuffle to find a "conspiracy"
I can find you the threads, if you want for your own personal investigation to go over them.
This is a subject frought with speculation, a karate expert killed Elvis, he did not die a impersonator died, he is in the witness protection program and they faked his death.........Vernon sealed the autopsy results because it was no ones business and because he knew no matter what the cause someone would point to drugs.
Vernon did exactly what Jackie Kennedy did-she froze the autopsy results from publis scrutiny.
Elvis had a drug problem that led to his early death-but did not directly cause it-that is the official finding of Dr Davis.
Elvis did not die a "downer induced death" ala Belushi, Monroe, Hendrix-the majority of the medications Elvis took were depressants to the nervous system-people who die from those type deaths do not have massive violent heart attacks (in which they stand and try to walk, then crawl about 8 feet before collapsing and dying as Elvis did)
Downer induced deaths slow the person down, the heart begins beating slower, the breathing slows down, BP drops and the person falls into a deep sleep, then into a coma, their lungs fill with fluid because the heart is not pumping at normal rate and finally the heart stops or their drown in their own fluids or vomit.
Belushi, Monroe, Hendrix all died like this-they went to sleep and never woke up.......they did not have a violent heart attack that gripped them "while awake"

[Tommy]

Great words Tommy. i agree

Thank you very, very much Anna. (y)http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/data//33/img174.JPG

Great man ELVIS lives in our hearts and minds........................I still say RIP.............God be with you ELVIS....................(y)

[elvia7]

Vivaelvis thanks for posting but I don't want to watch it cos I got upset seeing how Elvis was at the end of his life, how his once lovely blue eyes changed to black lifeless eyes. I would rather celebrate Elvis life with the legacy of his music that he left for us all to enjoy, than to watch something that would upset me even more and it doesn't do any good, cos we can't bring Elvis back.


I love Elvis like you show. Unfortunately, he just looked in the last months of life. Why? Thanks to us!
Because of pressure from us, the fans!
http://www.tcb-world.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=50954&d=1303320841:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy
Let us respect so, and this image!

[Tommy]

http://www.tcb-world.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=50954&d=1303320841

:notworthy(y):notworthy(y) Yes, let's us be repectful of this image Evi......................(y):notworthy(y):notworth y

[KPM]

http://www.tcb-world.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=50954&d=1303320841

:notworthy(y):notworthy(y) Yes, let's us be repectful of this image Evi......................(y):notworthy(y):notworth y
Yes Tommy I agree-lets recall the Elvis who lit the world, whos music helps people smile and see the good in life, ......all else serves no positive purpose especially before this historic 35th anniversary celebration.(y)

[Tommy]

Yes Tommy I agree-lets recall the Elvis who lit the world, whos music helps people smile and see the good in life, ......all else serves no positive purpose especially before this historic 35th anniversary celebration.(y)

Wonderful reply, I am with you, thank you so very, very much my friend. (y)
http://www.tcb-world.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=50954&d=1303320841
Elvia7 loving portrait of a great man. (y)

[King Of The Whole World]

My heart aches anytime I watch anything like this, so I didn't watch it...sorry Viva.

Elvis is so important in my life and brought me such joy not only my life but the world, so I choose to remember his music and his soul that he gave us.

RIP

[KPM]

My heart aches anytime I watch anything like this, so I didn't watch it...sorry Viva.

Elvis is so important in my life and brought me such joy not only my life but the world, so I choose to remember his music and his soul that he gave us.

RIP
I saw this
When it was on in 79 I watched it, its so sad that so much noise can be made of a conspiratorial nature about Elvis, the Kennedys, Monroe, Dean, etc.......yet not one ounce of real "court worthy proof" can ever be produced in order to prove the claims "legally"
If Elvis was murdered, bring the case to court prove it and prove it conclusively, if he is in a witness protection program (another myth) prove it not- with circumstantial heresay evidence, but with real proof that stands up. These "theories" have almost always been related to projects that have made someone a bundle of money for books, videos, specials, movies etc.....they make great profit-but are not PROOF!

The proof that does stand up in court.....is always questioned as to authenticity or the time old "they were paid off" is given as reasoning for facts that do not meet the conspiratorial theorys.
35 years and the same old stuff is brought up....enough is enough.

[Tommy]

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A GREAT MAN AND HIS MUSIC LIVES ON IN OUR HEARTS, I SAY RIP AND AND LET THIS BE ONLY FOR HIS LOVING MEMORY.

ELVIS LIVES IN EACH OF OUR HEARTS FOREVER. :notworthy


http://youtu.be/vJB_ADlLjHo

[Turbo]

I saw this
When it was on in 79 I watched it, its so sad that so much noise can be made of a conspiratorial nature about Elvis, the Kennedys, Monroe, Dean, etc.......yet not one ounce of real "court worthy proof" can ever be produced in order to prove the claims "legally"
If Elvis was murdered, bring the case to court prove it and prove it conclusively, if he is in a witness protection program (another myth) prove it not- with circumstantial heresay evidence, but with real proof that stands up. These "theories" have almost always been related to projects that have made someone a bundle of money for books, videos, specials, movies etc.....they make great profit-but are not PROOF!

The proof that does stand up in court.....is always questioned as to authenticity or the time old "they were paid off" is given as reasoning for facts that do not meet the conspiratorial theorys.
35 years and the same old stuff is brought up....enough is enough.



Thanks Tommy, I won't get upset about it anymore, it was a long time ago. My thoughts for me personally, are, "one should never forget" when it comes to wrong doings, so that it makes it difficult for occurances such as these to occur as easily, again. So, although painful, I watched this, the same when it comes to war, I will watch and listen to what is going on, as it is important that one doesn't forget, or there will be denials, as we all know, as happened with WW11.

I just want to say, because it is important for the younger generation to know how things work:

The "Old Boys Club" comes into play. Dr Nick, while moving his eyes sideways, said that in his court proceedings, it was found that there were only four drugs he prescribed, the rest were from other doctors.

You can see how it works, the "Old Boys Club" has of course and is of course, historically, around in all different forms and will always protect those with the connections and money through the lawyers, with the immediate coverups that are "necessary", when things happen.

[Cliff]

I love Elvis like you show. Yes. Mary is right, it is not nice to watch such a poor Elvis.
Unfortunately, he just looked in the last months of life. Why? Thanks to us!
Because of pressure from us, the fans!
http://www.tcb-world.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=50954&d=1303320841:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy
Let us respect so, and this image!

What a cruel thing to say, that we, the fans, were responsable by putting pressure on him. You say you love Elvis but you obviously don't know much about him.
All the time I have been on TCB it amazes me that people do not yet realize that he was a HUMAN BEING, and like most of us he had his faults. He wasn't perfect. In the cruel light of day we have to admit that Elvis was the architect of his own demise. He was a creature of excess and had an inquisitive mind. He was looking for answers to the mysteries of life, as we all are.
It doesn't matter what is said or what is written about his death, it seems everyone rubbishes it. Who among us really knows the truth. We weren't part of his inner circle. We don't know, as those around him didn't know, what his every thought was.
I for one do not blame anyone for his death except Elvis. Doctor Nic did not force the pills down Elvis' throat. He has already come out and said what was wrong with Elvis. But again the nay sayers come out of the wood work and say "No,no !! Not our Elvis !!"
There is actually and interview with Elvis saying that he was interested in all things to do with medicine and that he would have liked to get into the medical profession. So, it was no secret.
As for the conspiracy theories, I will admit that some of them are way out there. But ask yourself this why are they there? Are they to keep Elvis name in the spotlight? Or,as has been mentioned, someone wants to make a fast buck ?
Debating these issues is healthy and good for the soul. But please, let be grown up about it and stop blaming others.
In closing, one should also realize that there was big money to be lost if Elvis was a no show at concerts, insurance etc, even if it was because of health problems. Naturally he would be under pressure to perform, but not from the fans. Those who truly loved him would appreciate his difficulties.
Take time to learn about Elvis the MAN,the HUMAN BEING. Then maybe you'll better understand.

[Turbo]

It is an emotional time, people implode because of grief still, after all these years.

It shows the love that Elvis gave out to us all, the selfless love, and how we miss him.

We should concentrate on helping others, perhaps donating to the whales or Hunger for Children, that would be best at this time, no more "imploding", but giving, giving is best for the emotions and will do some good!

[Jeanine]

http://www.elvispresleypedia.com/final-years/1977-17-aug.htm




Commercial Appeal August 17,1977 :


Elvis Presley, who appeared to be the embodiment of physical fitness during his strenuous performances on stage, had been hospitalized in Memphis at least six times since Oct. 16, 1960.

In recent years, there were persistent reports that Presley's illnesses were drug related. Medical sources were careful to say the illnesses could have been caused by one or more prescription drugs that the singer was taking.

There were also rumors that the singer had a liver disease, not related to drinking.

But the official diagnoses released by his physician, Baptist Hospital and Mid-South Hospital were that he suffered from fatigue, colon obstruction, eye problems and intestinal flu, and was treated.

However, medical information released by Baptist Hospital Tuesday night showed that Presley had been admitted there three times for hypertension or high blood pressure.

Baptist Hospital admissions and diagnostic records released Tuesday night were:

Oct. 16-17, 1960, fractured fifth finger on the right hand.

Oct. 15-Nov. 1, 1973, hypertension and headache.

Jan. 28-Feb. 14, 1975, hypertension and an impacted colon.

Aug. 21-Sept. 5, 1975, hypertension and an impacted colon.

April 1-6, 1977, gastroenteritis, a strained back and mild anemia.

In June, 1975, Presley underwent an "extensive eye examination" at Mid-South Hospital for two days. It was reported then that he had recurrent eye problems.

However, the diagnosis of Presley's ailments released Tuesday night do not correspond with those given out at the time of the hospitalization.

When Presley was hospitalized in October, 1973, it was reported he was recovering from recurrent pneumonia and pleurisy which had been plaguing him for about four months. Hypertension was listed as the primary illness in Tuesday night's release.

In January, 1975, Dr. George Nichopoulos, Presley's personal physician, said the singer was admitted for a "general medical workup." A hospital source at that time said Presley had a "liver problem" not related to alcohol. The source said then tests were being performed to find the nature of the ailment.

One of the effects of the liver ailment was swelling or puffiness of the face, the source said. Presley reportedly fought constantly middle-aged spread after his 40th birthday.

When Presley was released from the hospital two weeks later, Nichopoulos said the singer had been treated for an intestinal obstruction.

Hypertension and megacolon were last night listed as his illness for that two-week stay.

On August 21, 1975, he was admitted again to Baptist for what was described as "fatigue and tests."

Then on April 1 of this year, he was admitted for intestinal flu and fatigue.

During his three stays at Baptist Hospital, beginning January, 1975, he stayed in a two-room suite on the 18th floor that had aluminum foil covered windows to keep out the sunlight. He had become a night person who preferred sleeping in a darkened room during the daytime.

Security was always tight during his stays. Bodyguards watched his room and kept fans from entering the area.

The hospital was always flooded with calls from fans seeking information on the singer. He was also inundated with get-well greetings and flowers.

[mistymorning]

What a cruel thing to say, that we, the fans, were responsable by putting pressure on him. You say you love Elvis but you obviously don't know much about him.
All the time I have been on TCB it amazes me that people do not yet realize that he was a HUMAN BEING, and like most of us he had his faults. He wasn't perfect. In the cruel light of day we have to admit that Elvis was the architect of his own demise. He was a creature of excess and had an inquisitive mind. He was looking for answers to the mysteries of life, as we all are.
It doesn't matter what is said or what is written about his death, it seems everyone rubbishes it. Who among us really knows the truth. We weren't part of his inner circle. We don't know, as those around him didn't know, what his every thought was.
I for one do not blame anyone for his death except Elvis. Doctor Nic did not force the pills down Elvis' throat. He has already come out and said what was wrong with Elvis. But again the nay sayers come out of the wood work and say "No,no !! Not our Elvis !!"
There is actually and interview with Elvis saying that he was interested in all things to do with medicine and that he would have liked to get into the medical profession. So, it was no secret.
As for the conspiracy theories, I will admit that some of them are way out there. But ask yourself this why are they there? Are they to keep Elvis name in the spotlight? Or,as has been mentioned, someone wants to make a fast buck ?
Debating these issues is healthy and good for the soul. But please, let be grown up about it and stop blaming others.
In closing, one should also realize that there was big money to be lost if Elvis was a no show at concerts, insurance etc, even if it was because of health problems. Naturally he would be under pressure to perform, but not from the fans. Those who truly loved him would appreciate his difficulties.
Take time to learn about Elvis the MAN,the HUMAN BEING. Then maybe you'll better understand.

I agree with this post , we should understand Elvis as a human being with all of his faults and values .

[Turbo]

Thank you, Jeanine, very informative. Poor Elvis, such a shame that his giving nature ended up with people taking advantage of him. A wonderful, loving, human being, one in many billion.

It is so hard to help someone when they can't receive help because of their circumstances.

Linda did say that Elvis went to hospital to get away from it all. I wonder if he said that to not worry her.

[elvia7]

I also want to thank you, Jeanine.
This is exactly what many do not know. Every artist needs the audience.
He loves us, because he is loved and appreciated.
He will pay every price to please the fans.
I think (I'm not sure, because I'm not ELVIS) that just need to be loved, appreciated and in good condition was the cause of drug overdose.
Death GREATEST ARTIST and the MAN was a matter of time! Short time .
We needed him, he needed us ...
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We will ALVAYS LOVE YOU ELVIS!

[Snake Eyes]

Elvis was let down by the doctors, his inner circle and largely by himself. They are all as guilty as each other in my opinion.

While I understand these particular threads upset many members on this board who wish to celebrate his incredible life and talent, it's just as important for newer fans to be able to discuss the good and the bad without just reading through the archives.

There are several members on this board who's opinions I enjoy reading and I hope as long as certain issues are treated with respect you will continue to say your piece, even if it's for the millionth time. I for one do not know everything about Elvis, so appreciate the facts and opinions given by you guys in the forums.

[elvia7]

Elvis was let down by the doctors, his inner circle and largely by himself. They are all as guilty as each other in my opinion.

While I understand these particular threads upset many members on this board who wish to celebrate his incredible life and talent, it's just as important for newer fans to be able to discuss the good and the bad without just reading through the archives.

There are several members on this board who's opinions I enjoy reading and I hope as long as certain issues are treated with respect you will continue to say your piece, even if it's for the millionth time. I for one do not know everything about Elvis, so appreciate the facts and opinions given by you guys in the forums.



I agree with you S.E. Many members of the TCB is able to provide culturally and objectively what is a documented fact, about ELVIS!.
I also confess that I do not know everything about ELVIS! I guess that he did not know himself .
No one can say with certainty that they know each other very well!

[cibetty]

What a cruel thing to say, that we, the fans, were responsable by putting pressure on him. You say you love Elvis but you obviously don't know much about him.
All the time I have been on TCB it amazes me that people do not yet realize that he was a HUMAN BEING, and like most of us he had his faults. He wasn't perfect. In the cruel light of day we have to admit that Elvis was the architect of his own demise. He was a creature of excess and had an inquisitive mind. He was looking for answers to the mysteries of life, as we all are.
It doesn't matter what is said or what is written about his death, it seems everyone rubbishes it. Who among us really knows the truth. We weren't part of his inner circle. We don't know, as those around him didn't know, what his every thought was.
I for one do not blame anyone for his death except Elvis. Doctor Nic did not force the pills down Elvis' throat. He has already come out and said what was wrong with Elvis. But again the nay sayers come out of the wood work and say "No,no !! Not our Elvis !!"
There is actually and interview with Elvis saying that he was interested in all things to do with medicine and that he would have liked to get into the medical profession. So, it was no secret.
As for the conspiracy theories, I will admit that some of them are way out there. But ask yourself this why are they there? Are they to keep Elvis name in the spotlight? Or,as has been mentioned, someone wants to make a fast buck ?
Debating these issues is healthy and good for the soul. But please, let be grown up about it and stop blaming others.
In closing, one should also realize that there was big money to be lost if Elvis was a no show at concerts, insurance etc, even if it was because of health problems. Naturally he would be under pressure to perform, but not from the fans. Those who truly loved him would appreciate his difficulties.
Take time to learn about Elvis the MAN,the HUMAN BEING. Then maybe you'll better understand.

I agree with you Cliff!! I also think it is silly to say we are responsible by putting pressure on him... Especially not those who weren't even born then... And you're right, nobody forced him to take those pills, he wanted to take them. I don't say the people around him were not responsible, Dr. Nick and the colonel and the others who just watched him as he destroyed himself and slowly led himself to the end. I think maybe some rest without any shows would have helped him. But he wanted to be on stage. And maybe he had a very big problem what will never know... And he didn't see any other way out than taking the pills. I think we'll never know the real facts, he took them away with himself.

[Diane]

I love Elvis like you show. Yes. Mary is right, it is not nice to watch such a poor Elvis.
Unfortunately, he just looked in the last months of life. Why? Thanks to us!
Because of pressure from us, the fans!
http://www.tcb-world.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=50954&d=1303320841:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy
Let us respect so, and this image!

I totally agree, Elvis had huge pressures from all sides but slim or slightly heavy as he got in the end, he was still Elvis, unique, still very attractive and unsurpassed.

[Snake Eyes]

I agree with you S.E. Many members of the TCB is able to provide culturally and objectively what is a documented fact, about ELVIS!.
I also confess that I do not know everything about ELVIS! I guess that he did not know himself .
No one can say with certainty that they know each other very well!

Exactly, couldn't have said it better Evi, also the sketch in post #30 iis one of my favourite pics of Elvis, fabulously drawn (y)

[Tommy]

I agree with you S.E. Many members of the TCB is able to provide culturally and objectively what is a documented fact, about ELVIS!.
I also confess that I do not know everything about ELVIS! I guess that he did not know himself .
No one can say with certainty that they know each other very well!

Very elegantly, gracefully said Evi, I agree. (y)

http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/data//30/1972AdonisJumpsuitTommyTCB24.jpg

I choose to remember ELVIS for all he stood for in HIS life, his music, HIS kind and giving heart to HIS fans, I do not want to remember the hard times, best to always remember the good times, which makes most of us happy to this very day. This ANNIVERSARY I will remember and honor ELVIS for is greatest, not what happend in his short life, HE gave us so much to be thankful for. (y)

I thank you ELVIS, and God bless you.

[elvislina]

Thank you very, very much Anna. (y)http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/data//33/img174.JPG

Great man ELVIS lives in our hearts and minds........................I still say RIP.............God be with you ELVIS....................(y)


you are so welcome Tommy :D

[J.P]

All the time I have been on TCB it amazes me that people do not yet realize that he was a HUMAN BEING, and like most of us he had his faults. He wasn't perfect. In the cruel light of day we have to admit that Elvis was the architect of his own demise. He was a creature of excess and had an inquisitive mind. He was looking for answers to the mysteries of life, as we all are.
It doesn't matter what is said or what is written about his death, it seems everyone rubbishes it. Who among us really knows the truth. We weren't part of his inner circle. We don't know, as those around him didn't know, what his every thought was.
I for one do not blame anyone for his death except Elvis. Doctor Nic did not force the pills down Elvis' throat. He has already come out and said what was wrong with Elvis. But again the nay sayers come out of the wood work and say "No,no !! Not our Elvis !!"
There is actually and interview with Elvis saying that he was interested in all things to do with medicine and that he would have liked to get into the medical profession. So, it was no secret.
As for the conspiracy theories, I will admit that some of them are way out there. But ask yourself this why are they there? Are they to keep Elvis name in the spotlight? Or,as has been mentioned, someone wants to make a fast buck ?
Debating these issues is healthy and good for the soul. But please, let be grown up about it and stop blaming others.
In closing, one should also realize that there was big money to be lost if Elvis was a no show at concerts, insurance etc, even if it was because of health problems. Naturally he would be under pressure to perform, but not from the fans. Those who truly loved him would appreciate his difficulties.
Take time to learn about Elvis the MAN,the HUMAN BEING. Then maybe you'll better understand.

well said Cliff!(y) that is the real respect to see him as a human being and IMO that's how he wanted to be seen. he just made a few mistakes like we all do that's all but there still is the music.

[J.P]

I agree with you Cliff!! I also think it is silly to say we are responsible by putting pressure on him... Especially not those who weren't even born then... And you're right, nobody forced him to take those pills, he wanted to take them. I don't say the people around him were not responsible, Dr. Nick and the colonel and the others who just watched him as he destroyed himself and slowly led himself to the end. I think maybe some rest without any shows would have helped him. But he wanted to be on stage. And maybe he had a very big problem what will never know... And he didn't see any other way out than taking the pills. I think we'll never know the real facts, he took them away with himself.

i agree with this to. (y) nobody else could and should be blamed.

[spanish eyes]

I love the human being that he was, so caring, so loving, so funny. I could always see the human being like just before he went on stage he was so nervous or when I heard him cuss lol. Elvis once said the image is one thing the human being another, its hard to live up to an image............ I would say Elvis just be you, you're so much more than an image.

[Tommy]

Amen, let's put the subject to rest, ELVIS was a great man and we must now respect and just love HIM. ELVIS ANNIVERSARY should bring us all together. (y) Do this for HIM. (y)

[elvia7]

I totally agree, Elvis had huge pressures from all sides but slim or slightly heavy as he got in the end, he was still Elvis, unique, still very attractive and unsurpassed.

Thank you Dee. Simply, no perfect people ..
ELVIS was in spite of defects THE BEST!!!

[elvia7]

Exactly, couldn't have said it better Evi, also the sketch in post #30 iis one of my favourite pics of Elvis, fabulously drawn (y)


Thank you S.E :notworthy:flowers:

[elvia7]

Very elegantly, gracefully said Evi, I agree. (y)

http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/data//30/1972AdonisJumpsuitTommyTCB24.jpg

I choose to remember ELVIS for all he stood for in HIS life, his music, HIS kind and giving heart to HIS fans, I do not want to remember the hard times, best to always remember the good times, which makes most of us happy to this very day. This ANNIVERSARY I will remember and honor ELVIS for is greatest, not what happend in his short life, HE gave us so much to be thankful for. (y)

I thank you ELVIS, and God bless you.


Yes Tommy, I think that it should be. Today we can only say ..

"thank you ELVIS, and God bless you"

[elvia7]

Amen, let's put the subject to rest, ELVIS was a great man and we must now respect and just love HIM. ELVIS ANNIVERSARY should bring us all together. (y) Do this for HIM. (y)



Beautifully said, Tommy!:notworthy
This ELVIS Anniversary.
Please Respect it!

[Tommy]

Beautifully said, Tommy!:notworthy
This ELVIS Anniversary.
Please Respect it!


THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH EVI.......................

THIS IS ELVIS, MAN WITH HEART OF GOLD FOR US ALL NOW WE COME TOGETHER FOR HIM. (y)
http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/data//22/1972-2.jpg



http://youtu.be/m9saX9cF248

:notworthy (y)ALL TCB MEMBERS TOGETHER NOW FOR ELVIS. :notworthy(y)

[King Of The Whole World]

Nice picture Tommy, of a wonderful person!

[josephinebeau]

I can hardly believe someone actually posted this nonsense, and it could not come at a more inappropriate time. This reminds me of the bad, old days when I was in elementary school and Elvis was on the front page of the National Inquirer at the grocery every single week with the same crazy headlines. I really thought all of this crap was over with in the 1980's. Elvis is not the Loch Ness monster or Bigfoot, and documentaries like this merely serve to strip him of his humanity. In a few days I am flying to Memphis to celebrate the life and legacy of a dear friend whom I never met and died before my birth. The King is dead, long live the King!

[readyseve]

This is an insane thread unworthy of TCB. Elvis is dead...fact..Those who do not accept are delusional and no Im no longer prepared to say each is entitled to his-her opinion. Im willing to debate issues that may be debated but this is beyond opinion it is fact. Im not prepared to take the line of least resistance and pretend there is a possibility of him being alive. Most RATIONAL fans accept the facts, those who are delusional sadly cant or wont face up to reality. If I am to be cautioned for speaking the truth then I have lost complete faith in his site. Wake up and smell the coffee people!!

[Tommy]

This is an insane thread unworthy of TCB. Elvis is dead...fact..Those who do not accept are delusional and no Im no longer prepared to say each is entitled to his-her opinion. Im willing to debate issues that may be debated but this is beyond opinion it is fact. Im not prepared to take the line of least resistance and pretend there is a possibility of him being alive. Most RATIONAL fans accept the facts, those who are delusional sadly cant or wont face up to reality. If I am to be cautioned for speaking the truth then I have lost complete faith in his site. Wake up and smell the coffee people!!

You did not say anything wrong my friend, ELVIS lives for us all in our hearts. (y)

[KPM]

This type thread always does nothing except cause speculation and strife among our members-it is one thing to bring forward real facts, it is another to bring forward wild speculation and circumstantial evidence that is presented as real proof.
Most rumors and circumstantial evidence is nothing more than someones wild imagination running with an odd point and then presenting it as a proven theory of fact.
Elvis died, we all die, the fact that he was a chrismatic super talented individual does not negate that he was a human subject to the same inevitability we all face-death. It was untimely, it was unfair, it was shocking-but he died.....no amount of speculation, videos, books, or odd points will change that.
Celebrate his life and his talent and stop looking for ways to allow someone to make another dolllar off wild innuendo and unfounded speculation.
For those who want to see all points of this type speculation-visit the several past threads that have hashed, rehashed and re-rehashed these speculations over and over and over..............its all there.....I say this with all sincerity.

[readyseve]

Tommy thank you but I dont need affirmation. You know. I know most people with half a brain know that Elvis is dead[.QUOTE=Tommy;413462]You did not say anything wrong my friend, ELVIS lives for us all in our hearts. (y)[/QUOTE]
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[readyseve]

Amen brother, The King is dead, rest in peace!!

[Tommy]

http://youtu.be/9r8HTe6XYi4

http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/data//30/1972_001.jpg

[King Of The Whole World]

http://www.tcb-world.com/gallery/data//30/1972_001.jpg

Such a great picture, THE KING has arrived!!

[Tommy]

Such a great picture, THE KING has arrived!!

YES.......................(y):clap::notworthy:clap ::notworthy:clap:(y)

[desiree]

There was no entertainer like ELVIS and there never will be! He's the best! :respect:


http://members.home.nl/sjaakjanssen/Elvis/Wallpapers/182.jpg

[Tommy]

THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH FOR ELVIS IS THE GREATEST, NEVER WILL BE ANOTHER LIKE HIM. (y)