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Elvis.com
07-31-2012, 12:20 PM
Of all the live concert recordings released by RCA during Elvis Presley’s lifetime, none carried the historic significance of his long-awaited New York City shows at Madison Square Garden in June 1972. Now, a pair of hour-long performances have finally been coupled in one package for the first...

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vivaelvis
07-31-2012, 02:35 PM
Of all the live concert recordings released by RCA during Elvis Presley’s lifetime, none carried the historic significance of his long-awaited New York City shows at Madison Square Garden in June 1972. Now, a pair of hour-long performances have finally been coupled in one package for the first...

More... (http://www.elvis.com/news/detail.aspx?id=6516)

I don't know if the footage being released is what's on Youtube now or complete footage from the afternoon show, but what I did notice in that preview was that it contains approximately 1 hour of fan shot footage of the afternoon show on June 10:supriced: I am assuming that they have overdubbed the afternoon mix onto the video for a better entertaining experience. It would make no sense for them to put 1 hour of silent footage on a major label release. Sony would get blasted for doing that.

Also, it says that the running time for the Press conference is 20 minutes, which means the ENTIRE conference!(y)

This set is getting better by the minute! (y) IMO, this is THE ultimate Elvis package ever put out by Sony, BMG or RCA, EVER!! Any true Elvis fan who passes on this simply because they already have the shows in the original POOR mixes, not to mention, rushed at that, should turn in their Elvis fan card immediately and join the non Elvis fans.:angry:

ThreeCornPatches
07-31-2012, 02:46 PM
I don't know if the footage being released is what's on Youtube now or complete footage from the afternoon show, but what I did notice in that preview was that it contains approximately 1 hour of fan shot footage of the afternoon show on June 10:supriced: I am assuming that they have overdubbed the afternoon mix onto the video for a better entertaining experience. It would make no sense for them to put 1 hour of silent footage on a major label release. Sony would get blasted for doing that.

Also, it says that the running time for the Press conference is 20 minutes, which means the ENTIRE conference!(y)

This set is getting better by the minute! (y) IMO, this is THE ultimate Elvis package ever put out by Sony, BMG or RCA, EVER!! Any true Elvis fan who passes on this simply because they already have the shows in the original POOR mixes, not to mention, rushed at that, should turn in their Elvis fan card immediately and join the non Elvis fans.:angry:


From what i know and read on several pages announcing this release its filmed with a handheld camera by 1 fan and not several fans

vivaelvis
07-31-2012, 02:58 PM
From what i know and read on several pages announcing this release its filmed with a handheld camera by 1 fan and not several fans

This is the official release and it is said that the DVD is indeed IN STEREO!!!(y)(y)

http://feature.legacyrecordings.com/elvis/Elvis-PrinceFromAnotherPShot.jpg

ThreeCornPatches
07-31-2012, 03:08 PM
This is the official release and it is said that the DVD is indeed IN STEREO!!!(y)(y)

http://feature.legacyrecordings.com/elvis/Elvis-PrinceFromAnotherPShot.jpg

so they probably synced the footage with the audio of the show

vivaelvis
07-31-2012, 03:11 PM
so they probably synced the footage with the audio of the show

Most likely.

ThreeCornPatches
07-31-2012, 03:12 PM
Most likely.

the thing im wondering about the most thou is, what angle, what quality is the footage, i mean the footages we know of the afternoon show are quite dark (those that are on youtube and several boot dvd's) i wonder if this will be an improvement?

debtdbruno
07-31-2012, 03:34 PM
I can't wait for this, got it pre-ordered, looks fantastic

vivaelvis
07-31-2012, 03:49 PM
the thing im wondering about the most thou is, what angle, what quality is the footage, i mean the footages we know of the afternoon show are quite dark (those that are on youtube and several boot dvd's) i wonder if this will be an improvement?

I know what particular footage you are referring to and it's very dark. However, none of it is known to exist in full complete form as what is being announced for the DVD of this special release. My guess is that Sony reached a deal with an unknown source or collector for the footage that we fans never knew of. Keep in mind that a lot of private collectors do NOT like to let their prized possessions make it to the public access like Youtube until they are ready to make a deal. The value goes up more that way.

vivaelvis
07-31-2012, 06:49 PM
Wow! This new set is making serious waves in the media. The very popular Los Angeles Times has now jumped aboard the bandwagon and ran this great article.

This part stood out the most.

"Using a hand-held camera, a fan filmed virtually the entire Saturday afternoon performance. The fan has requested anonymity and few other details about how his footage surfaced are available, according to a spokesman for Sony Legacy, which is releasing the package. “Rarely is unseen footage of Elvis in concert discovered, so this footage lends historical importance to the package,” said a statement issued Tuesday by the label."



http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-film-elvis-presley-1972-madison-square-garden-20120731,0,272323.story

buttonhead
07-31-2012, 08:23 PM
I think i am going to get it :-)

debtdbruno
08-01-2012, 01:12 AM
its getting better and better..........

ThreeCornPatches
08-01-2012, 04:52 AM
Wow! This new set is making serious waves in the media. The very popular Los Angeles Times has now jumped aboard the bandwagon and ran this great article.

This part stood out the most.

"Using a hand-held camera, a fan filmed virtually the entire Saturday afternoon performance. The fan has requested anonymity and few other details about how his footage surfaced are available, according to a spokesman for Sony Legacy, which is releasing the package. “Rarely is unseen footage of Elvis in concert discovered, so this footage lends historical importance to the package,” said a statement issued Tuesday by the label."



http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-film-elvis-presley-1972-madison-square-garden-20120731,0,272323.story


Then its gotta be good footage if the guy or girl wishes to be anonymous!

Steamroller Blues
08-01-2012, 08:59 AM
Go to link below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GVdt2tAGPA
I wonder if this is the footage that's going to be on the dvd. Since this video is of the june 10 afternoon show and does equal around the reported 20 min length of the dvd. It's also not professionally recorded like what reports of the dvd have told us.

vivaelvis
08-01-2012, 09:31 AM
Go to link below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GVdt2tAGPA
I wonder if this is the footage that's going to be on the dvd. Since this video is of the june 10 afternoon show and does equal around the reported 20 min length of the dvd. It's also not professionally recorded like what reports of the dvd have told us.

According to Sony reps, the entire concert was filmed by a hand-held camera recorder. I personally do not think that this is the same exact footage being used as it is the only known footage from this particular show at the Garden in 1972 and only runs in bits and pieces for 20 minutes. The Sony press release lists it as approximately 60 minutes (or to an hour long, which is what the actual show ran for) and that does NOT include the extra 20 minutes on the disc for the press conference. So IMO what we are getting is a NEW source and NOT what the fans have seen on bootleg or Youtube.

If you look on the photo of the set which is in color, you will see that each disc has a tracklisting and Disc 3 (the blue DVD disc) features one as well.

I really think we are in for a real shock and awe experience with this release. Sony even went the extra mile to make sure it was remixed by a world renowned producer/mixer. Some of those "experts" over at the other forum haven't got a clue what's in store for the Elvis world.

KPM
08-01-2012, 01:57 PM
I don't know if the footage being released is what's on Youtube now or complete footage from the afternoon show, but what I did notice in that preview was that it contains approximately 1 hour of fan shot footage of the afternoon show on June 10:supriced: I am assuming that they have overdubbed the afternoon mix onto the video for a better entertaining experience. It would make no sense for them to put 1 hour of silent footage on a major label release. Sony would get blasted for doing that.

Also, it says that the running time for the Press conference is 20 minutes, which means the ENTIRE conference!(y)

This set is getting better by the minute! (y) IMO, this is THE ultimate Elvis package ever put out by Sony, BMG or RCA, EVER!! Any true Elvis fan who passes on this simply because they already have the shows in the original POOR mixes, not to mention, rushed at that, should turn in their Elvis fan card immediately and join the non Elvis fans.:angry:
Vi....va-was that a shot at me? The value of any mix of a concert or music CD-is a strictly "subjective opinion" that has no clear cut answer because each person is different. The worth of any given mix is governed by the person who listens-not by singular opinion that suddenly is "the law"
True fans come in all shapes and sizes-there is no "one persons definition" that suddenly devides the waters of Elvis fans with one stroke of the keyboard;)
I for one will buy this set-mainly for the DVD content. I hope you are correct and the sound has been dubbed and synced to the film.

vivaelvis
08-01-2012, 02:30 PM
Vi....va-was that a shot at me? The value of any mix of a concert or music CD-is a strictly "subjective opinion" that has no clear cut answer because each person is different. The worth of any given mix is governed by the person who listens-not by singular opinion that suddenly is "the law"
True fans come in all shapes and sizes-there is no "one persons definition" that suddenly devides the waters of Elvis fans with one stroke of the keyboard;)
I for one will buy this set-mainly for the DVD content. I hope you are correct and the sound has been dubbed and synced to the film.

Not unless you are a poster at FECC and one of the arrogant self labeled "experts" of all things Elvis as some are there. But I don't think you are so no it wasn't directed towards you.

KPM
08-01-2012, 03:31 PM
Not unless you are a poster at FECC and one of the arrogant self labeled "experts" of all things Elvis as some are there. But I don't think you are so no it wasn't directed towards you.

I only post at TCB about Elvis-and on occasion on TOPIX.
Jonas Mekas filmed with a 16 mm camera-it was hand held....and I have been trying for years to discover how much film he shot...he could have filmed the whole show-or only several minutes. Whether he is a fan of Elvis-I have never read anywhere.
How he got to film with a 16 mm camera (which back then was not a small camera) is also a mystery. I found an interview with him a few years back and he claimed (if I recall correctly so this is a disclaimer) that he was given permission by Parker.....which I found hard to believe.
IF this is indeed the Mekas film-it is a quality shot concert...he is a professional filmmaker.
If it is some of the other MSG fan footage I have seen over the last 20 years-we may be in for a letdown unless they have really cleaned it up and edited it well.

KPM
08-01-2012, 03:39 PM
Here is an interesting story I ran across while trying to find info on the Mekas filming at MSG anyone ever heard of Galaxy Eclipse Productions?
...................In April 1972, they received a call from a guy named Tom in Palm Springs who said he was associated with Colonel Parker...Elvis Presley's manager. The Colonel wanted some film of Elvis to put together a promo film package because Elvis wanted to expand his territory for performing. Promo film would be a good tool to boost bookings. Tom wanted Galaxy Eclipse to shoot the film. Nothing fancy...just 16mm footage of Elvis performing at Madison Square Garden in June. Probably footage of the pre-concert press conference at the New York Hilton as well. The Colonel was willing to pay about double the usual fee but in typical Colonel style, Travis and Bob had to pay their own way to New York City.

Travis and Bob packed up their equipment and headed for New York in late May. Best job they ever booked. The Colonel had already advanced them money by messenger and met them at the New York Hilton. They looked over the Mercury Ballroom where the press conference was to take place. It was to be a two-camera set-up for the press conference as well as the actual concert footage. Film was to be shot of one concert only...the opening show.

Well, the day of the press conference, they showed up to set up their equipment and the Colonel told them that there were already too many reporters, cameras, tape recorders there and it had already become hectic. Forget the footage of the press conference...he could access some footage if they needed it from one of the news services who were filming.

Galaxy showed up the next day at the Garden well in advance of the actual concert. They needed time to set up cameras and other equipment and get details from Parker about the camera angles, etc. Only footage of Elvis was to be taken and not the opening acts, the Colonel made this very clear to both of them (Travis recalled that the Colonel said this about 100 times...at least!)

One camera was set up right next to the mixing desk where sound adjustments were made which probably would have been stage front about the 12th row or so. the second camera was situated to the far left side of the stage pointed directly where Elvis eventually stood at the microphone. Each camera was equipped with a 10x zoom for closer views.

Travis said that after the job was completed, each camera had shot about 1600 feet of 16mm film equalling about 36 minutes of footage. There were approximately 10 complete songs captured that evening from two different angles. The film was never forwarded to the Colonel because final payments were never made to Galaxy and Aloha from Hawaii came along several months later and was probably a better promo for Elvis than any Madison Square Garden footage could have ever been. Both owners of Galaxy tried to contact Colonel Parker even after Elvis died, to see if he wanted the footage or not. They even offered to send him 16mm copies for free. People around the Colonel either never passed on the message to him or he just was no longer interested............

KPM
08-01-2012, 03:43 PM
Supposedly this is NBC footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6gGNYX3b7Q

vivaelvis
08-01-2012, 03:51 PM
Here is an interesting story I ran across while trying to find info on the Mekas filming at MSG anyone ever heard of Galaxy Eclipse Productions?
...................In April 1972, they received a call from a guy named Tom in Palm Springs who said he was associated with Colonel Parker...Elvis Presley's manager. The Colonel wanted some film of Elvis to put together a promo film package because Elvis wanted to expand his territory for performing. Promo film would be a good tool to boost bookings. Tom wanted Galaxy Eclipse to shoot the film. Nothing fancy...just 16mm footage of Elvis performing at Madison Square Garden in June. Probably footage of the pre-concert press conference at the New York Hilton as well. The Colonel was willing to pay about double the usual fee but in typical Colonel style, Travis and Bob had to pay their own way to New York City.

Travis and Bob packed up their equipment and headed for New York in late May. Best job they ever booked. The Colonel had already advanced them money by messenger and met them at the New York Hilton. They looked over the Mercury Ballroom where the press conference was to take place. It was to be a two-camera set-up for the press conference as well as the actual concert footage. Film was to be shot of one concert only...the opening show.

Well, the day of the press conference, they showed up to set up their equipment and the Colonel told them that there were already too many reporters, cameras, tape recorders there and it had already become hectic. Forget the footage of the press conference...he could access some footage if they needed it from one of the news services who were filming.

Galaxy showed up the next day at the Garden well in advance of the actual concert. They needed time to set up cameras and other equipment and get details from Parker about the camera angles, etc. Only footage of Elvis was to be taken and not the opening acts, the Colonel made this very clear to both of them (Travis recalled that the Colonel said this about 100 times...at least!)

One camera was set up right next to the mixing desk where sound adjustments were made which probably would have been stage front about the 12th row or so. the second camera was situated to the far left side of the stage pointed directly where Elvis eventually stood at the microphone. Each camera was equipped with a 10x zoom for closer views.

Travis said that after the job was completed, each camera had shot about 1600 feet of 16mm film equalling about 36 minutes of footage. There were approximately 10 complete songs captured that evening from two different angles. The film was never forwarded to the Colonel because final payments were never made to Galaxy and Aloha from Hawaii came along several months later and was probably a better promo for Elvis than any Madison Square Garden footage could have ever been. Both owners of Galaxy tried to contact Colonel Parker even after Elvis died, to see if he wanted the footage or not. They even offered to send him 16mm copies for free. People around the Colonel either never passed on the message to him or he just was no longer interested............

That was interesting. I bet the Colonel never got back with them following Elvis' death because of the big lawsuit against him by Vernon and Priscilla which he lost rights to Elvis in. Or something to that affect.

As for Mekas and his footage. He filmed portions of the opening night performance. The actual concert on this set will be from the Saturday afternoon show (that RCA recorded) and is virtually the entire show according to Sony.

A poster on FECC says a reliable source told him that the show isn't complete but about 50 minutes long. That only about 10 minutes is missing. So maybe he means intros. Also the footage is excellent. So we will see if he has connections or is just blowing air.

Edit; He also claimed it was filmed in 16mm.

mozzarella
08-01-2012, 04:51 PM
Well, I don't think that Sony BMG lives in a box, so they MUST know that there's already a footage on YouTube and they won't cheat and lie to the fans promising a 'newly discovered, unseen' footage. At least I hope so... Because that would be a major disappointment. Why don't they release every footage they have? What about the Opening show from June 9th? No audio, no footage? So on one hand I'm very excited and enthusiastic about this release, but a bit skeptic at the same time. We'll see, at least the sound will be a tad bit better and hopefully more powerful than the originals. Anyone who have heard any of the new mix plz let us know about it asap!

Raised on Rock
08-01-2012, 06:25 PM
IF this is indeed the Mekas film-it is a quality shot concert...he is a professional filmmaker.
If it is some of the other MSG fan footage I have seen over the last 20 years-we may be in for a letdown unless they have really cleaned it up and edited it well.

The Mekas film! yes I was wondering about that. I remember reading somewhere that he did filmed the whole show, but then just cliped some scenes for his short (and very weird) film proyect. Would that be this new footage! if it is it will be mind blowing! Yet, only one angle?

Now the Galaxy films sounds even better, but who knows. In the end it reads a fan, not Mekas or unfinished promo film project, so... will see. Exciting anyway.

Tommy
08-01-2012, 06:33 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81WvB2P7A9L._AA1500_.jpg

I have ordered this set.........(y) Shipping Estimate Tuesday October 30, 2012.

Yes, very amazing finally. (y)

vivaelvis
08-01-2012, 06:42 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81WvB2P7A9L._AA1500_.jpg

I have ordered this set.........(y)

From the looks of it, it seems that the case cover is a thick multi-disc case like with the That's The Way It Is set from 2001.

Is there any way you or anyone else can blow up that photo of the discs to where we can read the print on the DVD disc? I do see where it says STEREO, so I would assume that it's multi-channel for both the concert footage and press conference.

Tommy
08-01-2012, 06:52 PM
From the looks of it, it seems that the case cover is a thick multi-disc case like with the That's The Way It Is set from 2001.

Is there any way you or anyone else can blow up that photo of the discs to where we can read the print on the DVD disc? I do see where it says STEREO, so I would assume that it's multi-channel for both the concert footage and press conference.

It says DVD.......NTSC, that is all I can read.

Tommy
08-01-2012, 06:54 PM
Editorial Reviews

Of all the live concert recordings released by RCA during Elvis Presley's lifetime, none carried the historic significance of his long-awaited New York City shows at Madison Square Garden in June 1972. Now, a pair of hour-long performances have finally been coupled in one package for the first time as Prince From Another Planet: 40th Anniversary Edition.

Prince From Another Planet takes its title from a New York Times headline that accompanied its rave review of the King of Rock 'n' Roll's four sold-out shows at Madison Square Garden (80,000 tickets sold), the weekend of Friday through Sunday, June 9-11, 1972. CD two reprises the Saturday night show in its entirety, some 20 songs (plus introductions) originally issued on LP on June 18, 1972, just eight days after the concert took place. CD one reprises the (slightly longer) Saturday afternoon show, some 23 songs (plus introductions), archived and issued for the first time 25 years later in 1997, on CD.

Accompanying the two CDs is a bonus DVD that presents unseen footage of the Saturday afternoon show, captured on hand-held camera by a fan, and now acquired by Legacy from that fan decades later for this package. Rarely is unseen footage of Elvis in concert discovered, so this footage lends historical importance to the package. The film is a revealing portrait of a physically commanding Elvis and his power¬house TCB Band, background vocalists, and orchestra.

Track Listings

Disc: 1
1. Introduction: Also Sprach Zarathustra (Theme from 2001: A Space Odyssey)
2. That's All Right
3. Proud Mary
4. Never Been To Spain
5. You Don't Have To Say You Love Me
6. Until It s Time For You To Go
7. You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
8. Polk Salad Annie
9. Love Me
10. All Shook Up
11. Heartbreak Hotel
12. Medley Let Me Be Your)Teddy Bear/ Don't Be Cruel
13. Love Me Tender
14. Blue Suede Shoes
15. Reconsider Baby
16. Hound Dog
17. I'll Remember You
18. Suspicious Minds
19. Introductions by Elvis
20. For The Good Times
21. American Trilogy
22. Funny How Time Slips Away
23. I Can't Stop Loving You
24. Can't Help Falling In Love
25. End Theme(Orchestra)

Disc: 2
1. Introduction: Also Sprach Zarathustra (Theme from 2001: A Space Odyssey)
2. That's All Right
3. Proud Mary
4. Never Been To Spain
5. You Don't Have To Say You Love Me
6. You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
7. Polk Salad Annie
8. Love Me
9. All Shook Up
10. Heartbreak Hotel
11. Medley Let Me Be Your)Teddy Bear/Don't Be Cruel
12. Love Me Tender
13. The Impossible Dream(The Quest)
14. Introductions by Elvis
15. Hound Dog
16. Suspicious Minds
17. For The Good Times
18. American Trilogy
19. Funny How Time Slips Away
20. I Can't Stop Loving You
21. Can't Help Falling In Love
22. End Theme (Orchestra)

Disc: 3
1. Afternoon show filmed June 10, 1972 (approx. 1 hour)
2. Afternoon press conference held June 9, 1972 (approx. 20 minutes)

vivaelvis
08-01-2012, 07:00 PM
Thanks Tommy. I was able to match the print of the other 2 discs and strangely it is of the EVENING show. So it's either a bad mistake by Sony in their presentation or the printing company who made the labels. Or, it might not be the official image, but a mock up.

Tommy
08-01-2012, 07:07 PM
Thanks Tommy. I was able to match the print of the other 2 discs and strangely it is of the EVENING show. So it's either a bad mistake by Sony in their presentation or the printing company who made the labels. Or, it might not be the official image, but a mock up.

You are very welcome my friend. (y)

Unchained Melody
08-01-2012, 09:49 PM
This is unbelievable.

I can not express in words the great feelin' of excitement this gives me already on top of the Elvis at sun set.

Pre ordering this in two weeks, thank you SONY!

Robbie
08-02-2012, 03:24 AM
Jonas Mekas had been contacted before about a deal for his film but showed no interest and is old now

ThreeCornPatches
08-02-2012, 05:56 AM
Thanks Tommy. I was able to match the print of the other 2 discs and strangely it is of the EVENING show. So it's either a bad mistake by Sony in their presentation or the printing company who made the labels. Or, it might not be the official image, but a mock up.

if i look at the picture it seems that all 3 discs have the same tracklisting so it could be just for preview reasons?

dennyelvis
08-02-2012, 07:10 AM
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Of all the live concert recordings released by RCA during Elvis Presley’s lifetime, none carried the historic significance of his long-awaited New York City shows at Madison Square Garden in June 1972. Now, a pair of hour-long performances have finally been coupled in one package for the first time as PRINCE FROM ANOTHER PLANET: 40th ANNIVERSARY EDITION. This deluxe 2-CD+DVD box set will be available everywhere October 30th through RCA/Legacy, a division of SONY MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT.

PRINCE FROM ANOTHER PLANET takes its title from a New York Times headline that accompanied its rave review of the King of Rock ‘n’ Roll’s four sold-out shows at Madison Square Garden (80,000 tickets sold), the weekend of Friday through Sunday, June 9-11, 1972. CD two reprises the Saturday night show in its entirety, some 20 songs (plus introductions) originally issued on LP on June 18, 1972, just eight days after the concert took place. CD one reprises the (slightly longer) Saturday afternoon show, some 23 songs (plus introductions), archived and issued for the first time 25 years later in 1997, on CD.

The Madison Square Garden recordings have been newly mixed for the first time by respected New York engineer Michael Brauer.
Adding to the historic weight of PRINCE FROM ANOTHER PLANET is an evocative 5,000-word essay written by Lenny Kaye, longtime guitarist for Patti Smith. Kaye actually covered the press conference and the concerts for his gig as music editor of Cavalier magazine in the ’70s. In addition to his roles as a musician and a producer of numerous reissues and compilations, Kaye has been annotating albums for more than four decades.

Accompanying the two CDs is a bonus DVD that presents unseen footage of the Saturday afternoon show, captured on hand-held camera by a fan, and now acquired by Legacy from that fan decades later for this package. Rarely is unseen footage of Elvis in concert discovered, so this footage lends historical importance to the package. The film is a revealing portrait of a physically commanding Elvis and his power*house TCB Band, background vocalists, and orchestra.

The recently discovered footage is set to make its world premiere during Elvis Week in Memphis on Friday, August 17th, at 4:30 p.m. at a free event in the Elvis Week Entertainment Pavilion.

Along with the concert film on the DVD is another video document, the press conference that took place on Friday afternoon before the big weekend. Attended by Colonel Tom Parker and Elvis’ father, Vernon Presley, Elvis disarms and wins over the New York press corps with his good-natured demeanor.

For example, when asked “Which kind of song do you like doing the best?” Elvis answers, “I like to mix 'em up. In other words, I like to do a song like ‘Bridge Over Troubled Water’ or ‘American Trilogy,’ or something. Then mix it up and do some rock and roll, some of the hard rock stuff. I'm not the least bit ashamed of ‘Hound Dog’ or ‘Heartbreak Hotel’…”

A closer look at the concert repertoire confirms his answer. The set lists for the afternoon and evening shows are an eclectic mix, something for everyone. After the bombastic “Also Sprach Zarathustra” theme from 2001: A Space Odyssey, both shows are bookended at the start by “That's All Right” (from 1956), Creedence’s “Proud Mary” (via Ike & Tina Turner), Hoyt Axton’s “Never Been To Spain” (via Three Dog Night), and Dusty Springfield’s “You Don't Have To Say You Love Me.” Both shows end with “Suspicious Minds,” Kristofferson’s “For The Good Times,” Mickey Newbury’s “American Trilogy,” Willie Nelson’s “Funny How Time Slips Away,” Don Gibson’s “I Can't Stop Loving You” (via Ray Charles), and of course, “Can't Help Falling In Love.”

The set lists are virtually identical, though four songs from the afternoon show were not performed at the evening show: Buffy Sainte-Marie’s “Until It’s Time For You To Go,” “Blue Suede Shoes,” Lowell Fulsom’s “Reconsider Baby,” and Don Ho’s “I’ll Remember You.” And one song from the evening show was not performed at the afternoon show: Man Of La Mancha’s “The Impossible Dream.”
With those exceptions, the central portion of each show is very nearly the same something-for-everyone program, starting with the Righteous Brothers’ “You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'” and Tony Joe White’s “Polk Salad Annie,” then straight back to 1956-57 for “Love Me,” “All Shook Up,” “Heartbreak Hotel,” the medley of “(Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear” c/w “Don't Be Cruel,” “Love Me Tender,” and “Hound Dog.”

After being roundly excoriated by New York critics after his televised visits of 1956 (on Jackie Gleason’s Stage Show, in January, February and March), and 1957 (Ed Sullivan’s Toast Of the Town in January; and The Steve Allen Show in July), Elvis and his manager Tom Parker did not schedule another New York performance for some 15 years. Even after Elvis triumphed on his black leather NBC-TV “comeback” special of December 1968, and returned to public concert touring fulltime in August 1969 (at the International Hotel in Las Vegas, chronicled in 2010 on RCA/Legacy’s On Stage: Legacy Edition), they still waited three years to play New York.
When asked at the press conference why it took so long, Elvis answers with a straight face: “I think it was a matter of not getting the building, the proper building. We had to wait our turn in order to get the building. Couldn't get a good building in fifteen years. No, all kidding aside, we had to wait our turn to get in... into the Garden, you know. I just hope we put on a good show for everybody. Oh, I like it. I enjoy it.”

PRINCE FROM ANOTHER PLANET by ELVIS PRESLEY
ELVIS AS RECORDED LIVE AT MADISON SQUARE GARDEN /
40th ANNIVERSARY EDITION
(RCA/Legacy 88691 95388 2)
Disc 1: The afternoon show recorded June 10, 1972 (originally issued April 1997, as An Afternoon In the Garden, RCA 67457-2):
Selections: 1. Introduction: Also Sprach Zarathustra (Theme from 2001: A Space Odyssey) • 2. That's All Right • 3. Proud Mary • 4. Never Been To Spain • 5. You Don't Have To Say You Love Me • 6. Until It’s Time For You To Go • 7. You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' • 8. Polk Salad Annie • 9. Love Me • 10. All Shook Up • 11. Heartbreak Hotel • 12. Medley: (Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear/ Don't Be Cruel • 13. Love Me Tender • 14. Blue Suede Shoes • 15. Reconsider Baby • 16. Hound Dog • 17. I’ll Remember You • 18. Suspicious Minds • 19. Introductions by Elvis • 20. For The Good Times • 21. American Trilogy • 22. Funny How Time Slips Away • 23. I Can't Stop Loving You • 24. Can't Help Falling In Love • 25. End Theme (Orchestra).

Disc 2: The evening show recorded June 10, 1972 (originally issued June 18, 1972, as Elvis As Recorded At Madison Square Garden, RCA LSP 4776):
Selections: 1. Introduction: Also Sprach Zarathustra (Theme from 2001: A Space Odyssey) • 2. That's All Right • 3. Proud Mary • 4. Never Been To Spain • 5. You Don't Have To Say You Love Me • 6. You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' • 7. Polk Salad Annie • 8. Love Me • 9. All Shook Up • 10. Heartbreak Hotel • 11. Medley: (Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear/ Don't Be Cruel • 12. Love Me Tender • 13. The Impossible Dream (The Quest) • 14. Introductions by Elvis • 15. Hound Dog • 16. Suspicious Minds • 17. For The Good Times • 18. American Trilogy • 19. Funny How Time Slips Away • 20. I Can't Stop Loving You • 21. Can't Help Falling In Love • 22. End Theme (Orchestra).

Disc 3 (DVD): 1. Afternoon show filmed June 10, 1972 (approx. 1 hour) • 2. Afternoon press conference held June 9, 1972 (approx. 20 minutes).

TCB Band:
Guitar: James Burton
Guitar: John Wilkinson
Guitar & Vocals: Charlie Hodge
Bass: Jerry Scheff
Drums: Ronnie Tutt
Piano: Glen D. Hardin
with:
Vocals: J.D.Sumner & The Stamps
Vocals: The Sweet Inspirations
Vocals: Kathy Westmoreland
The Joe Malin Orchestra conducted by Joe Guercio

So far this is exceeding my expectations. I just hope the aprox 1 hour for the concert footage is not a typo, since before they were talking about 40 mins total for the DVD.

Raised on Rock
08-02-2012, 01:13 PM
Does anybody knows if sales of this set will add up to the original MSG L.P. as well as to the An Afternoon CD?

vivaelvis
08-02-2012, 01:23 PM
Does anybody knows if sales of this set will add up to the original MSG L.P. as well as to the An Afternoon CD?

It's hard to tell at this point. It is a 40th anniversary deluxe edition of the original album, although the actual title is Prince From Another Planet and not As Recorded At Madison Square Garden. So I don't know if it will or not.

With the addition of the DVD added with the unseen footage, it just might be an even bigger seller than the original.

KPM
08-02-2012, 02:52 PM
Jonas Mekas had been contacted before about a deal for his film but showed no interest and is old now
Perhaps the money was'nt right in the other offers. Money has a way of changing minds, also since he is old-money may be more important in his old age-for health, comfort etc.....

KPM
08-02-2012, 02:59 PM
Editorial Reviews

Of all the live concert recordings released by RCA during Elvis Presley's lifetime, none carried the historic significance of his long-awaited New York City shows at Madison Square Garden in June 1972. Now, a pair of hour-long performances have finally been coupled in one package for the first time as Prince From Another Planet: 40th Anniversary Edition.

Prince From Another Planet takes its title from a New York Times headline that accompanied its rave review of the King of Rock 'n' Roll's four sold-out shows at Madison Square Garden (80,000 tickets sold), the weekend of Friday through Sunday, June 9-11, 1972. CD two reprises the Saturday night show in its entirety, some 20 songs (plus introductions) originally issued on LP on June 18, 1972, just eight days after the concert took place. CD one reprises the (slightly longer) Saturday afternoon show, some 23 songs (plus introductions), archived and issued for the first time 25 years later in 1997, on CD.

Accompanying the two CDs is a bonus DVD that presents unseen footage of the Saturday afternoon show, captured on hand-held camera by a fan, and now acquired by Legacy from that fan decades later for this package. Rarely is unseen footage of Elvis in concert discovered, so this footage lends historical importance to the package. The film is a revealing portrait of a physically commanding Elvis and his power¬house TCB Band, background vocalists, and orchestra.

Track Listings

Disc: 1
1. Introduction: Also Sprach Zarathustra (Theme from 2001: A Space Odyssey)
2. That's All Right
3. Proud Mary
4. Never Been To Spain
5. You Don't Have To Say You Love Me
6. Until It s Time For You To Go
7. You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
8. Polk Salad Annie
9. Love Me
10. All Shook Up
11. Heartbreak Hotel
12. Medley Let Me Be Your)Teddy Bear/ Don't Be Cruel
13. Love Me Tender
14. Blue Suede Shoes
15. Reconsider Baby
16. Hound Dog
17. I'll Remember You
18. Suspicious Minds
19. Introductions by Elvis
20. For The Good Times
21. American Trilogy
22. Funny How Time Slips Away
23. I Can't Stop Loving You
24. Can't Help Falling In Love
25. End Theme(Orchestra)

Disc: 2
1. Introduction: Also Sprach Zarathustra (Theme from 2001: A Space Odyssey)
2. That's All Right
3. Proud Mary
4. Never Been To Spain
5. You Don't Have To Say You Love Me
6. You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
7. Polk Salad Annie
8. Love Me
9. All Shook Up
10. Heartbreak Hotel
11. Medley Let Me Be Your)Teddy Bear/Don't Be Cruel
12. Love Me Tender
13. The Impossible Dream(The Quest)
14. Introductions by Elvis
15. Hound Dog
16. Suspicious Minds
17. For The Good Times
18. American Trilogy
19. Funny How Time Slips Away
20. I Can't Stop Loving You
21. Can't Help Falling In Love
22. End Theme (Orchestra)

Disc: 3
1. Afternoon show filmed June 10, 1972 (approx. 1 hour)
2. Afternoon press conference held June 9, 1972 (approx. 20 minutes)
That lack of information for the DVD...... on song listings bothers me....also I would like to hear that they "definitely" have synced sound to the film....and cleaned up the film.
I have seen many filmed clips of MSG-and by far the Mekas film is the optimum in picture.
The afternoon "fan shot" show clips I have seen- were grainy, choppy and unprofessional looking. If indeed the film that has circulated for years of the afternoon show is the one they are using-I pray they clean it up and have better sound-otherwise its going to be a letdown for everyone.
If they would just provide more info-it would show what is coming-but since so far they have given little info on the DVD out-it makes me anxious-causes me to wonder Why?

KPM
08-02-2012, 03:03 PM
I do not think the sales of this will count toward the original albums-If I recall correctly the tracklisting must be a certain percentage of the original-since this has both shows and they both were released as single albums-this will be a new release and its sales will stand apart from the original single albums.

vivaelvis
08-02-2012, 03:20 PM
I do not think the sales of this will count toward the original albums-If I recall correctly the tracklisting must be a certain percentage of the original-since this has both shows and they both were released as single albums-this will be a new release and its sales will stand apart from the original single albums.

Apparently they are doing TWO separate releases. One being the 3-disc set featuring that DVD and the other being a Legacy Edition release featuring the original album and the new remixed version of the evening show. I told you months ago that I felt that Sony was pushing the An Afternoon In The Garden disc at Wal-Mart to get rid of back inventory to make way for a new upgraded version or set. I knew what I was talking about, which is why I was irritated at your negativity about it. The world is filled with pessimistic and negativity as it is and sometimes we just need to be optimistic and positive and not see things for the wrong but for the right.

Brian Quinn
08-04-2012, 03:52 AM
I have checked with the RIAA and the new album release will count as a 'new' one and sales will not be added to either original album. Whilst these releases are great for fans they do nothing towards getting Elvis new awards.

Brian

debtdbruno
08-04-2012, 07:38 AM
does make you wonder why Brian?.........

KPM
08-04-2012, 03:34 PM
Apparently they are doing TWO separate releases. One being the 3-disc set featuring that DVD and the other being a Legacy Edition release featuring the original album and the new remixed version of the evening show. I told you months ago that I felt that Sony was pushing the An Afternoon In The Garden disc at Wal-Mart to get rid of back inventory to make way for a new upgraded version or set. I knew what I was talking about, which is why I was irritated at your negativity about it. The world is filled with pessimistic and negativity as it is and sometimes we just need to be optimistic and positive and not see things for the wrong but for the right.
Yes you told us your thoughts on the subject months ago-but never said you were in on information that no one else had?
I ask this because that is the "only way you could know 100% about anything concerning releases by Sony"-everything else is a surmised guess (educated or otherwise) We all have them-sometimes they end up correct-other time way off base.
If you knew "100% from sources within Sony" and had said as such-the skeptism would have been non-existent. You never said this.
If you knew "100% as fact" that a DVD of "unreleased concert footage" was to be part of the set-and said so with sourcing from Sony-my skeptism would have been non-existent-the DVD of "unreleased concert footage " makes all the difference in the world to the idea behind releasing the set-so close to selling nearly 500,000 units at $5 bucks a piece. My thoughts as a man who has been involved in business still make sense considering I had no knowledge of consequence about any 100% sure DVD inclusion with unreleased concert footage" That would have changed my thinking-because it changes the mathmatical equation 360!
Now having said that-let me say this, if the footage ends up being blurry, not synced well and not edited for maximum viewing pleasure-this set will not do well....
The hype so far has been toward "fans" ........the surprise about the footage is what the buzz is about (and that so far is working) but not much is going on to get others interested in this release-perhaps that will change-but if the footage ends up as I said blurry, choppy etc-then this will not be a big seller to those "others"
Isn't that the idea of this type release-remastered, better sound, better mix-.........video to introduce Elvis to new potential fans?
As far as negativity....isn't introducing the thought that Lisa may be perceived as lying with her "nothing in the works" statement introducing negativity toward Lisa?
I read the rumor you posted from unknown sources and did not think Lisa was perhaps lying-until you brought up the subject.
IMO Your post could have stood alone without that statement and your information would be totally intact. But that last statement brought negativity into the post that really is speculation. IMO

KPM
08-04-2012, 03:36 PM
I have checked with the RIAA and the new album release will count as a 'new' one and sales will not be added to either original album. Whilst these releases are great for fans they do nothing towards getting Elvis new awards.

Brian


Thank you Brian I was pretty sure that was the case.

KPM
08-04-2012, 03:49 PM
I also want to say in a "positive way":D that I am hoping that this DVD footage is done in a quality way-as a fan any new footage that is not grainy and choppy is always hoped for whenever some new release is announced-but having seen many announcements that end up not being as hyped-does give one pause to think......
I hope this is pushed to younger people in a good marketing campaign-like 30#1s-since they waited till this last month to start any campaign-we will see if the "surprise" works.

dennyelvis
08-05-2012, 03:54 AM
Regarding the difference in sets, so does the 3 disc set [dvd] have both shows remixed, and the 2 cd set have just the evening show remixed ? can we get a diffinitive explanation on what we get ?

vivaelvis
08-05-2012, 08:52 AM
Regarding the difference in sets, so does the 3 disc set [dvd] have both shows remixed, and the 2 cd set have just the evening show remixed ? can we get a diffinitive explanation on what we get ?

From my understanding, yes, the 3 disc set is all remixed while the 2 disc set will be original 1972 album plus the new remix of it.

vivaelvis
08-05-2012, 08:56 AM
I have checked with the RIAA and the new album release will count as a 'new' one and sales will not be added to either original album. Whilst these releases are great for fans they do nothing towards getting Elvis new awards.

Brian

I know what you mean, but on the other hand, a new product to repackage the original outdated version is much needed and overdue. However, the Afternoon In The Garden cd will probably reach GOLD status before this set is released as it only needs 20,000 more copies to sell. Which is also why Sony decided to release it at such a low price to clear out inventory to get back some of the lost profits and to make way for the new set.

KPM
08-05-2012, 09:22 AM
I know what you mean, but on the other hand, a new product to repackage the original outdated version is much needed and overdue. However, the Afternoon In The Garden cd will probably reach GOLD status before this set is released as it only needs 20,000 more copies to sell. Which is also why Sony decided to release it at such a low price to clear out inventory to get back some of the lost profits and to make way for the new set.
Well there are 2 ways to look at this-if there are still 20,000 copies of AITG still on WAlmart shelves it may reach gold....but in my area there are 5 Walmarts and one Superwalmart-and for months I have not seen AITG
The Best Of Love, Elvis Country, The Rocker are still in stock....but not one AITG.
If you produce a cd for a couple bucks with very little overhead (artist royaltee) you are in little danger of "lost profits" these were not all leftovers from the initial release I bought my aunt one and I'm sure one of the dates on the back was 2010. Sony has made a killing on these $5 buck budget sales.....mainly because they do not have to pay the estate 10-12% of each sale in royaltees.
If this box set is a huge success it will be because of the DVD-pure and simple......if not....Sony may regret the 500,000 sales that led up to the sets very very recent announcement. For this set to have legs-more than fans will have to buy it...any talk of advertising-using the concert footage in a TV promotion, magazine ad buys etc.....?
I sincerily hope the DVD is great it is the swing vote-because otherwise we could have another huge blunder in marketing.

Brian Quinn
09-27-2012, 06:52 AM
It appears that the PFAP release has been put back to 12th November, 2012.

Brian

Tommy
09-27-2012, 07:16 AM
It appears that the PFAP release has been put back to 12th November, 2012.

Brian

Yes, I got a notice about this also, thanks so much. (y)

Snake Eyes
09-27-2012, 11:40 AM
It appears that the PFAP release has been put back to 12th November, 2012.

Brian

I got the email earlier too, no info as to why it's been put back though.

King Of The Whole World
09-27-2012, 02:02 PM
I was sad to see my email earlier today. :mad: I was ready to rock on the 30th.

mozzarella
09-27-2012, 03:54 PM
Oh shoot... I'm very excited about this, anyone has any info on the sound? Any samples? They should make a teaser at least...