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Nicole Presley
04-28-2012, 10:20 AM
I read in an interview with Lisa that she thinks Gladys died at 42. She said:"Yes, it freaked me out when I hit 42. It was my grandmother as well [who died at] the same age...". Why does she think Gladys died at 42? She was 46 when she died. And Elvis thought she died at 42, too. I read it in the book "Elvis and the Memphis Mafia". Why do both think Gladys died at 42? Did Elvis think his mother is as old as his father? Vernon was 42 when Gladys died.

KPM
04-28-2012, 10:56 AM
Good question-math is math and Gladys died at 46.
A couple of songs have stated Elvis and Gladys both dying at 42 and many newscasters over the years have mistated the myth that they both died at 42 so perhaps she has just always accepted it.
My dad commited suicide when I was 5-and I am sorry to say I am not really sure of the age he was when he died-I think 29.
My grandparents I know were in their 70s-but exact age I would have to look it up. Funny how some things are so easy to recall and others slip from the mind.

vivaelvis
04-28-2012, 10:59 AM
I read in an interview with Lisa that she thinks Gladys died at 42. She said:"Yes, it freaked me out when I hit 42. It was my grandmother as well [who died at] the same age...". Why does she think Gladys died at 42? She was 46 when she died. And Elvis thought she died at 42, too. I read it in the book "Elvis and the Memphis Mafia". Why do both think Gladys died at 42? Did Elvis think his mother is as old as his father? Vernon was 42 when Gladys died.

That's interesting. Maybe she and Elvis knew something that wasn't supposed to be known by the public? As in his mother's age being wrong, maybe younger than she was led to believe. A lot of odd things went on back in those days in the south. Faked birth certificates among other things. Maybe she wasn't old enough to marry at the time and forged a fake certificate? It is interesting that Lisa, nor Elvis would know how old she really was at the time of her death.:hmm:

debtdbruno
04-28-2012, 12:14 PM
It was because she was older than Vernon wasn't it?.....didnt they try to bring their ages closer together

Not important nowadays......but then, obviously a big deal

King Of The Whole World
04-28-2012, 12:38 PM
I have heard that to that she died at 42. I think one of the things that could get people is that she died on August 14 and Elvis on the 16th. Now that is kind of weird. Sometimes I wonder if Elvis was more depressed around that time of August and maybe dipped into the pills more.

Raised on Rock
04-28-2012, 12:48 PM
It was because she was older than Vernon wasn't it?.....didnt they try to bring their ages closer together

Not important nowadays......but then, obviously a big deal

I believe that was it. As you say she being older than he means nothing today, but it could have been a bit of an issue back in the 30's so maybe they told everybody incluiding Elvis they where both the same age.

On the other hand it might be true that certain genetical tendency to gaing weight and to develop certain health issues after 40 might be common to the three of them. Fortunately modern medicine and Lisa's awarenes of it had and will keep her well and healthy unlike father and grandmother.

Nicole Presley
04-28-2012, 01:05 PM
If I recall it right Billy Smith said in the book "Elvis in the Memphis Mafia" that Elvis said she died at 42. But why did Billy Smith know she was 46 and not Elvis? How can it be that his cousin knows more about his mother than he does? IŽm not sure if it was Billy Smith who said it. IŽll try to find it in the book. But I think it was Billy.

Jeanine
04-28-2012, 01:46 PM
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=2846

KPM
04-28-2012, 01:47 PM
Elvis had to know the correct age of Gladys because her tombstone gives her year of birth as 1912 and she died in 1958-46 years difference.
Heres a link to a photo of the tombstone and an article about the funeral.
http://www.elvispresleynews.com/GladysPresleyFuneral.html
If Elvis mistated her age at death at times- it might be because Gladys always claimed to be younger and he recalled what she claimed the truth.
The date on the tombstone was probably a blur to him in his memory-the fact that his mother was dead was the prime memory.

Jeanine
04-28-2012, 02:22 PM
Vernon Presley Innterview :
http://www.elvisinfonet.com/interview_vernon_presley.html


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_were_Vernon_Elvis_Presley_and_Gladys_Love_Smi th_married

The CVB in Tupelo has made a new Video also for the tourism site and here is a link to the Video, you will see the inside of the Town Hall in the beginning of the film.

http://blip.tv/guerrillamonster-films/tupelovehd720p-5869234


Elvis Presley 's Parents Wedding was on June 17, 1933 in Verona MS.

The 21 year old Gladys Love Smith and 17 year old Vernon Elvis Presley made the long trip to Pontotoc, Mississippi to get a marriage license.

Lonniebealestreet
04-28-2012, 02:27 PM
I always wondered if it had to do with the falsification of her age (by four years) on the marriage certificate as previously stated -- if they just stuck with that for whatever reason.

Nicole Presley
04-28-2012, 04:09 PM
But she only made herself two years younger when they married. She was 21 and said she was 19.

hounddog
04-28-2012, 07:47 PM
"It was because she was older than Vernon wasn't it?.....didnt they try to bring their ages closer together" That's what I've read a few times. you'd think that Lisa woudl knwo the truth though. But just because the press printed it that way doesn't mean it's what she said.

rocknroll
04-29-2012, 09:13 AM
She was 46. LMP is a drama queen.

Snake Eyes
05-01-2012, 02:28 PM
I've just read that Gladys died aged 42 in Elvis What Happened? It's on page 92. :blink:

KPM
05-01-2012, 03:08 PM
Its amazing the things that are incorrect in books, interviews with insiders, or people who knew Elvis....that even when pointed out-take on a life of their own which seems to still trump the truth in somes minds.
In the John Wayne movie "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" an editor of a local newspaper upon learning the truth of who killed Libery Valance
says something along the lines of "when the legend becomes truth...print the legend"

Nicole Presley
05-01-2012, 04:19 PM
I've just read that Gladys died aged 42 in Elvis What Happened? It's on page 92. :blink:

What does the book exactly say? In "Elvis and the Memphis Mafia" it says Elvis thinks his mother died at 42, though she was 46.

elvislina
05-01-2012, 04:58 PM
She was 46. LMP is a drama queen.

are you a LMP hater????? she isnt, Lisa is just worried and she have her reason to be sometimes

hounddog
05-02-2012, 06:17 AM
I thought his favourite drink was Pepsi and his fav water was Mountain Valley Spring.

King Of The Whole World
05-02-2012, 08:10 AM
I thought his favourite drink was Pepsi and his fav water was Mountain Valley Spring.

That's what I have heard.

Snake Eyes
05-02-2012, 09:38 AM
What does the book exactly say? In "Elvis and the Memphis Mafia" it says Elvis thinks his mother died at 42, though she was 46.

"By all accounts she was indeed the saint that legends are made of. She was to die a young woman, only forty-two".

Tony Trout
05-02-2012, 10:31 AM
Gladys falsified her age on the marriage certificate. She was four years older than Vernon - and you're right - LMP is nothing but a drama queen..

Nicole Presley
05-02-2012, 01:56 PM
I still donŽt understand why not even Elvis knew the right age.

hounddog
05-02-2012, 09:51 PM
I do not beleive that Elvis didn't know his mothers real age after all he had the Star of David added to her gravestone and he visited her grave. And i rarely if ever beleive anything from the MM.

http://www.elvispresleynews.com/JewishElvis.html

rocknroll
05-05-2012, 02:44 PM
are you a LMP hater????? she isnt, Lisa is just worried and she have her reason to be sometimes

Step back from the ledge. ;) I like Lisa just fine, but she is a drama queen.

KPM
05-06-2012, 11:30 AM
Step back from the ledge. ;) I like Lisa just fine, but she is a drama queen.
Lets look at it from this angle-Lisa grew up like no one else on earth, at age 8 she most probably saw her father dead on his bathroom floor-at the least witnessed the turmoil and crazed activity of that day, she then is fatherless with..... millions of people who seem to love her dad as much as she does....she also has the Presley/Smith genes which seem to tend toward addictions and depression....her mother and her have a horrible relationship for most of her next 15 years and she ends up dabbling in drugs, alcolol etc......she is probably in many ways a lonely person like her father, wondering is it me, is it my money, is it my fathers image that attracts my friends lovers etc......
I agree she can be a tad dramatic, but all things considered perhaps its unavoidable.
I know what the trauma of death can do to a young persons emotions and life from personal experience...it never goes away totally.
I have had some drama in my life ....and you tend to look for "whats next" that can drop upon you-99% of the time nothing of real consequence happens but you wait watch and expect it anyway.
I am a man-so I can't be a drama queen:D but I may at times share certain tendencies with them.:lol:

Raised on Rock
05-06-2012, 11:53 AM
Well Elvis was pretty much of a drama queen himself.

KPM
05-06-2012, 01:11 PM
Well Elvis was pretty much of a drama queen himself.
Well its a unique situation the "drama" of someone from Tupelo who becomes an unprecedented world star...even from my own perspective of finding my father hanging from a rope at the age of 5........all the consequences of that type trauma-a mom who moved us 33 times before I was `18 and being poor until I actually started my adult life after being kicked out of the house at 17...I have no way to identify with the "mind games" (to quote John Lennon) that Elvis had with his type of fame fortune and never ending adulation. Lisa I can identify with a little better (but still its a stretch) only because of the traumatic death angle of her father dying with her being in the middle of the whole crisis situation.
But I agree Elvis tended to take things to the max-and he felt things to the max.....man of extremes and thats what made him who he was.
Not just a regular peanut butter sandwich-lets fly across the country to get the best PBS in the world, not just a Rolls Royce, a gold laden customized Rolls, not just a chrismatic talented entertainer-BUT a person put on earth for a reason......mind games that people who feel things to the max-entertain in thought..... It appears crazy from the outside-in-but from the inside out it..... makes perfect sense to that person.
Perhaps I am being a little dramatic here-sorry thats me at times:lol:

rocknroll
05-06-2012, 07:25 PM
Lets look at it from this angle-Lisa grew up like no one else on earth, at age 8 she most probably saw her father dead on his bathroom floor-at the least witnessed the turmoil and crazed activity of that day, she then is fatherless with..... millions of people who seem to love her dad as much as she does....she also has the Presley/Smith genes which seem to tend toward addictions and depression....her mother and her have a horrible relationship for most of her next 15 years and she ends up dabbling in drugs, alcolol etc......she is probably in many ways a lonely person like her father, wondering is it me, is it my money, is it my fathers image that attracts my friends lovers etc......
I agree she can be a tad dramatic, but all things considered perhaps its unavoidable.
I know what the trauma of death can do to a young persons emotions and life from personal experience...it never goes away totally.
I have had some drama in my life ....and you tend to look for "whats next" that can drop upon you-99% of the time nothing of real consequence happens but you wait watch and expect it anyway.
I am a man-so I can't be a drama queen:D but I may at times share certain tendencies with them.:lol:

So................we are in agreement then???

Nicole Presley
05-07-2012, 06:40 AM
Well Elvis was pretty much of a drama queen himself.

What? :lmfao: I have no idea what youŽre talking about. :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

KPM
05-07-2012, 11:24 AM
So................we are in agreement then???
I think we have basic agreement-my own view is tempered with what causes some to have dramatic tendencies of thought, governed by my own experiences.
People in unique circumstances are not going to follow the norm as we may see it, if we all were "exactly the same" in reaction to lifes problems we would all be clones...music would never surprise us, art would not exist really because it would all follow the same pattern, same pictures......yes my friend we agree I was just trying to see it from my own perspective of the "WHY" of it.

Raised on Rock
05-07-2012, 11:35 AM
What? :lmfao: I have no idea what youŽre talking about. :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

Just kidding, I'm saying it in a nice way. Not that it was a character fault on him, but just as KPM said: Elvis tended to take things to the max-and he felt things to the max.....man of extremes and thats what made him who he was.


Stuff like: "my fans are going to forget me while I'm in the army", or "I'm not sure if they're going to still like me (about performing live again)", or "people will forget about me when I'm dead". Please Elvis!!! wake up and just do your thing!!! Now of course, if we study his life and roots we can understand his insecurities through his life, and his often self deprecation as part of his charm, being who he was he could have been such an unbearable guy! lol! so nothing wrong about being a bit of a drama queen then.