Priscilla Presley Speaks On Elvis' Legacy etc.

[Brian Quinn]

Please go to the following URL:

http://www.vegasdeluxe.com/blogs/luxe-life/2011/jan/22/nbt-woman-year-priscilla-presley-elvis-legacy-trib/

Brian :)

[ForeverTheKing]

Really interesting...thanks a lot for this post (y)

[Tigerman1975]

Well it doesnt come as much of a suprise to me that she only associates with Esposito and Schilling. I'll stop with that. I would like to see the show though. A woman that I work with saw it recently with her husband and said that it rocked.

[Diane]

Oh my gosh...absolutely. Sorry, couldn't help myself.;)

[sasha]

Please go to the following URL:

http://www.vegasdeluxe.com/blogs/luxe-life/2011/jan/22/nbt-woman-year-priscilla-presley-elvis-legacy-trib/

Brian :) Thanks, Brian. I thought it was great !! Priscilla has been vilified much too long, in my opinion. People won't or can't seem to recoginize what she's done to keep Elvis' name and music out here .

I wasn't a Cilla fan for a long time either. Still not, but give credit where credit's due.

[SleepyJack]

And she keeps on smiling,even with stuff like "colonic-Elvis"...a true believer in "all publicity is good publicity"...get serious.I`ll give her credit...when and if she actually does anything. This woman,to me at least,has been clueless her whole life....and giving her a "Woman of the year" award is laughable...if she continues the way she is going we might just have Graceland turned into Elvis-Disney...with a hundred-foot fibreglass Elvis standing outside it...and she`ll still be golly-goshing at how wonderful it is that they are keeping Elvis` name alive. She`s been around celebrities for so long that she probably believes that if it glitters it`s definitely gold...and the more glitter you can have the better...gosh.

[Tigerman1975]

:lol:
And she keeps on smiling,even with stuff like "colonic-Elvis"...a true believer in "all publicity is good publicity"...get serious.I`ll give her credit...when and if she actually does anything. This woman,to me at least,has been clueless her whole life....and giving her a "Woman of the year" award is laughable...if she continues the way she is going we might just have Graceland turned into Elvis-Disney...with a hundred-foot fibreglass Elvis standing outside it...and she`ll still be golly-goshing at how wonderful it is that they are keeping Elvis` name alive. She`s been around celebrities for so long that she probably believes that if it glitters it`s definitely gold...and the more glitter you can have the better...gosh.

Thats great!

[sasha]

By 1980 the cost of running the estate was estimated to be as much as $500,000 a year.[3] Priscilla and the Trust were prepared to let Parker continue to handle Elvis's business affairs, and petitioned the court to that end.[4] However, Judge Joseph Evans, aware that Lisa Marie Presley was still a minor, appointed attorney Blanchard E. Tual to investigate Parker's management.[3][4] His preliminary finding was that Parker's management deal of 50% was extortionate compared to the industry average of 15-20%.[3] He also noted that Parker's handling of Elvis's business affairs during his lifetime, including the decision to sell off past royalties to RCA for $5.4 million in 1973, were "unethical" and poorly handled.[4] During a second, more detailed investigation, all earnings were paid directly to the Trust instead of Parker.[3] By this time, with the IRS demanding almost $15 million in taxes, the estate was facing bankruptcy.[3]
On August 14, 1981 Judge Evans ordered EPE to sue Parker for mismanagement.[5] In response to this, Parker countersued.[5] The case against Parker was settled out of court in 1983, with the estate paying him $2 million,[5] and the termination of his involvement in any Elvis related earnings for five years.[3] He was also ordered to hand over any Elvis audio recordings or visual images that he owned.[3]
[edit] Opening of Graceland During the court case Priscilla was advised to sell Graceland to avoid bankruptcy. She decided against this because she had no plans to sell off her daughters first home.[5] In late 1981, the estate hired Jack Soden, at the time a Missouri investment counselor, to plan and execute the opening of Graceland to the public and oversee the total operation. Graceland opened for tours on June 7, 1982.[1]

[sasha]

Priscilla: (Laughs)
It’s true. He’d probably get a kick out of it, actually. He had a great sense of humor. Someone had said that, as a real book reader, said, “I can’t tell you how many books that I read that have somehow Elvis’ name in it, how he’s attributed in someone’s life. Over 800 or some-odd books have been written about him.
TKR: And you’ve read them all, I’m sure.
Priscilla: Right (laughs). Well, everyone has a story. I can’t even read any of them. Oh my gosh, if someone ever met Elvis, or was associated with someone who knew Elvis, that makes them an expert. I can’t read any more books. This is heartbreaking to me, to see this. I very seldom go there, and I very seldom believe what I read.

Someone once said to me, “If I read one more story about someone playing football with Elvis here in Beverly Hills, I’m going crazy.” If he played football with as many people who say they played football with Elvis, he wouldn’t have had time to do any movies or make any music (laughs).
TKR: In that “Anthology” series, they actually joke about Ringo playing football with Elvis.

Priscilla: (Laughs) Well, there you go. I swear to God, I was there, and he did not play that much football.

I agree in that I can't and don't believe everything that I read -- on anything.

[Brian Quinn]

For many years I had a negative view of Priscilla but I recently attended the Hyde Park Elvis Tribute Concert and she came over very well indeed and appeared very sincere. One thing is for sure, Graceland would not be as financially secure as it is today without her efforts despite the Potato Head Dolls, Ducks and Dog Capes which most fans abhor.

Brian

[sasha]

Believe me, I too had a negative view of Priscilla. Until I decided to look at the "documented history" instead of "reading some books" or listening to the "experts." Thanks for the interview.
As for the "dolls, ducks and dogs"-- I tell people don't buy the junk !! Who needs it?


For many years I had a negative view of Priscilla but I recently attended the Hyde Park Elvis Tribute Concert and she came over very well indeed and appeared very sincere. One thing is for sure, Graceland would not be as financially secure as it is today without her efforts despite the Potato Head Dolls, Ducks and Dog Capes which most fans abhor.

Brian

[KPM]

Priscilla did what mothers do-looked out for her child-Lisa.
I love Elvis and his music, but we all have to face the fact that he did not worry about the future, he spent his income as quick as it came in, he let Vernon and Parker run his finances/business matters..........and he always felt if he needed money he could tour or cut more records.
Vernon was not educationally up to keeping Elvis's money growing thru investments and Parker made deals which made money but killed the spirit of creativity and growth and did not even allow him to own the finished product.. So all that was left when Elvis died was his name and likeness.........................the probate court had a responsibility to protect and grow the estate for Lisa and the "3" trustees were obligated to do the same by the terms of Elvis's will.......................so the how and why of insuring the estate grew till Lisa could take it over was limited by actions which happened while Elvis was alive.
I know we all hate certain aspects of EPE but they did not own most of the "creative aspects of Elvis" they owned his likeness-that is limiting.
Of the "THREE" trustees and the Probate judge who oversaw the will-Priscilla is singled out by critics and blame (or praise) is targeted at her.
She was part of a group of people who made decisions "for the financial well being of Lisa" but it is Priscilla's face who was spokesperson for the entire group and so she gets the fallout.
Lisa was her daughter and she did what she could to protect her future financial well being..........as a parent I can identify with that....Elvis's will set up the trust and he wanted that...........................................of course he thought he would have years to continue adding to the financial legacy for Lisa-but that did not happen.

[monk37]

if Priscilla hadn't sued for more money in the divorce, there wouldn't have needed to be a 1873 sale to RCA.

So, her desire for more money then, sure isn't worth what that catalog would have meant now.

not in terms of money, or in terms of the kind of legacy EPE could have been doing.

imagine, focusing on Elvis' music instead of how many products they could cram his name or image on....


but, she did open Graceland and judos for that

[Vegas69]

And she keeps on smiling,even with stuff like "colonic-Elvis"...a true believer in "all publicity is good publicity"...get serious.I`ll give her credit...when and if she actually does anything. This woman,to me at least,has been clueless her whole life....and giving her a "Woman of the year" award is laughable...if she continues the way she is going we might just have Graceland turned into Elvis-Disney...with a hundred-foot fibreglass Elvis standing outside it...and she`ll still be golly-goshing at how wonderful it is that they are keeping Elvis` name alive. She`s been around celebrities for so long that she probably believes that if it glitters it`s definitely gold...and the more glitter you can have the better...gosh.
I agrees with you. She first had to tear him down so she feel better about herself and hoodwink many fans. But if you go bakc you sees that she had no ideas what to do it was court apoointees who saved Lisa inheritance and stop Col. Parker, Priss happy to go along with Parker old setup.
Elvis dont be needin anyone to save his legacy his heart and talen does that fine and I could sell Elvis cause he sells hisself. She is professional exwife who has done nothing on her own of success that with out his name.

[Vegas69]

if Priscilla hadn't sued for more money in the divorce, there wouldn't have needed to be a 1873 sale to RCA.

So, her desire for more money then, sure isn't worth what that catalog would have meant now.

not in terms of money, or in terms of the kind of legacy EPE could have been doing.


imagine, focusing on Elvis' music instead of how many products they could cram his name or image on....


but, she did open Graceland and judos for that

So goods your saying she was money hungry alls along. And she knews to open Graceland because State of Tennessseee and Vernon did all leg work.
And what she teach her daughter, nothin about her dads legacy look how she treats him.

[Tigerman1975]

I agrees with you. She first had to tear him down so she feel better about herself and hoodwink many fans. But if you go bakc you sees that she had no ideas what to do it was court apoointees who saved Lisa inheritance and stop Col. Parker, Priss happy to go along with Parker old setup.
Elvis dont be needin anyone to save his legacy his heart and talen does that fine and I could sell Elvis cause he sells hisself. She is professional exwife who has done nothing on her own of success that with out his name.

I agree with that. What gets on my nerves is that for decades she has put it across like she is his widow and they had been divorced since 1973. I believe she was still with Mike Stone or maybe even Mike Edwards by the time Elvis passed away. So how is she his widow?

[Vegas69]

I agree with that. What gets on my nerves is that for decades she has put it across like she is his widow and they had been divorced since 1973. I believe she was still with Mike Stone or maybe even Mike Edwards by the time Elvis passed away. So how is she his widow?

I reads your posts all time and I like so how you think and how you able to word things. Better than me for sure. I think she dating that hair guy when Elivs die and he say in interview that Lisa had brain like her mom meanin Elvis was stupid. That type men she date after Elvis.
Thank you agains I was scared to say what on my brain cause I see lots of Pris fans here. x

[Vegas69]

Priscilla: (Laughs)
It’s true. He’d probably get a kick out of it, actually. He had a great sense of humor. Someone had said that, as a real book reader, said, “I can’t tell you how many books that I read that have somehow Elvis’ name in it, how he’s attributed in someone’s life. Over 800 or some-odd books have been written about him.
TKR: And you’ve read them all, I’m sure.
Priscilla: Right (laughs). Well, everyone has a story. I can’t even read any of them. Oh my gosh, if someone ever met Elvis, or was associated with someone who knew Elvis, that makes them an expert. I can’t read any more books. This is heartbreaking to me, to see this. I very seldom go there, and I very seldom believe what I read.

Someone once said to me, “If I read one more story about someone playing football with Elvis here in Beverly Hills, I’m going crazy.” If he played football with as many people who say they played football with Elvis, he wouldn’t have had time to do any movies or make any music (laughs).
TKR: In that “Anthology” series, they actually joke about Ringo playing football with Elvis.

Priscilla: (Laughs) Well, there you go. I swear to God, I was there, and he did not play that much football.

I agree in that I can't and don't believe everything that I read -- on anything.

Startin with her and what hse say much lies and chang what she say.

[Albert]

A nice post, thanks for sharing (y)

[Tigerman1975]

I reads your posts all time and I like so how you think and how you able to word things.

Thank you. Thats kind of you to say. I gave up along time ago when it comes to Priscilla and the Memphis Mafia. It always turns into a pissing contest and somebody ends up getting mad. So I just say what I need to say and move on.

[sasha]

Many times I wish ALL the executors would have sold Graceland. I know I would never have wanted to live the lives of Priscilla or Lisa. Like Elvis, they will never be allowed to RIP. I hope Lisa finds some peace for her and her children in the UK. I'm sure her dad would hope the same. I don't begrudge them a thing, as they've paid a high price. Too bad Elvis didn't leave the US .

[Tigerman1975]

Too bad Elvis didn't leave the US .

I dont know if Elvis could have done that, even if he wanted to. I guess its a Southern thing. As proud as I am of having deep rooted Scottish, English and Irish heritage I dont know if I could ever leave the South. I guess Southern people are like people of any other region. You get accustomed to a certain way of living,eating,etc. I suspect Elvis viewed it much the same way. He could have realistically lived anywhere he wanted,but he stuck with Memphis.

[KPM]

]if Priscilla hadn't sued for more money in the divorce[/B], there wouldn't have needed to be a 1873 sale to RCA.

So, her desire for more money then, sure isn't worth what that catalog would have meant now.

not in terms of money, or in terms of the kind of legacy EPE could have been doing.

imagine, focusing on Elvis' music instead of how many products they could cram his name or image on....


but, she did open Graceland and judos for that
Well first off in most divorces (especially with millions involved) divorcing parties usually have their own lawyer representing them-and in this case "Elvis's lawyer" drew up the original settlement with no one to represent Priscillas interests-now lets be honest that is not fair..................obviously someone informed Priscilla about this and then she got her own lawyer who looking at the first agreement said this is ridiculous.
Most woman today, even in moderate income brackets, who are getting divorced have their own lawyer to make sure they are not being taken.
Honestly who do you think Elvis's "retained legal counsel" is going to give the edge to in the settlement?
Secondly Elvis trusted Parker to see handle business dealings..... Parker advised Elvis to sell the music royaltees to his biggest hits and 95% of his RCA catalogue.
Depending on who you believe the Colonel had been already exploring this with RCA before the need for cash came about. (Whether he approached RCA or RCA came to him is the debated matter)
The Colonel could have renegotiated the RCA deal and got Elvis increased royaltee rates.... on par with the Beatles, the Stones, Elton John etc or he could have finally set up a European tour for the millions in offers that had been coming in for years (especially after the satellite show in 73) or Parker could have set up a legit film with profit participation...... there were options to selling 95% of Elvis's recorded legacy, they were legitimate options that Parker did not explore.
RCA did in fact see the long term worth of these recordings, where as Parker just did not.....once again IMO this shows how profit minded he was but shortsighted on the true worth of real created art.
So to blame Priscilla for getting her own legal representation is a little unfair, to then blame her because a judge saw that the original agreement was onesided and should be renogotiated....if the first settlement was fair-noting further would have happened.
The deal to sell the 73 masters had nothing to do with Priscilla-the Colonel led Elvis down that path and advised him it was fair and sound....some have said he told Elvis that they were old recordings and the price RCA was giving was well worth it- a true out and out example of Parker taking the quick easy buck above the long lasting benefit of those recordings.
If I had been managing Elvis-my choice of the options would have been the tour of Europe, Japan, Australia.... which would have not only brought in more money than could have been dreamed about-but it would have given the creative jolt Elvis needed for years to come.

[Vegas69]

Thank you. Thats kind of you to say. I gave up along time ago when it comes to Priscilla and the Memphis Mafia. It always turns into a pissing contest and somebody ends up getting mad. So I just say what I need to say and move on.

Good pointers I need to do that to follow how you do. :) Your welcome but is true.

[SleepyJack]

I`ve never been a big fan of Priscilla,but at the same time I`m not interested in just Priscilla-bashing for the sake of it.Their relationship was their own business and had all the ups and downs of any relationship....none of it of too much interest to me either.
She did play some part in keeping Graceland and in opening it up to the public,and yes she probably did reasonably well under the circumstances she found herself in...but,I`m pretty sure it came down to money and business opportunities above all else.
The problem I have with her is that she is constantly painting herself as some saviour of the Elvis legacy and unashamedly playing the "grieving widow" card... she seems to be oblivious to to the fact that Elvis` legacy and reputation are not in good shape these days and that the continued support of EPE for some of the gaudy and ridiculous elements in todays Elvis-world are helping to keep alive the overblown comedy that it has all become.The ETA competitions,the tacky merchandise..all of that stuff has made the whole image of Elvis into a joke...along with all the other stories and sightings and claims.I don`t understand how Priscilla and EPE can continue to be seen as supporting all of this...except for it all being publicity and keeping the dollars rolling in...not much of it is about Elvis anymore. Surely all of this could be handled with some degree of taste and respect and still turn a profit? I don`t know...maybe I`m wrong...maybe I just don`t "get it"... my main concern is with Elvis.his music,his movies,his talent..and it isn`t easy seeing it all become an over-the-top joke.The Elvis that I know isn`t some gaudy,cheeseburger-munching clown that kept the casino crowds entertained in Vegas.....he was and is a lot more than that.

[debtdbruno]

cracking post SJ................

[Tigerman1975]

...he was and is a lot more than that.

That was so well said SleepyJack.

[kathy parkinson]

I agree with Deb,and Tigerman, well said SJ,Elvis was,is,more than that.

[Vegas69]

good post Sleepyjack. Yoko seems to do good with John Lennon legacy without turning it into a joke. I think Priss could learn something from her.

[LaurieT]

She should not be the one at the forefront of his legacy. (or his spokesperson) She divorced him, said Graceland was a prison to her, and went out of her way to hurt and mock the father of her child. (even so much as to say in a mag. how wonderful her life was with out him) This is clearly a women who in many ways had disdain for the man. She never wanted to sell Graceland because it was a gold mine to her. Period!!!! If anyone thinks she did this purely for her daughter,,,,well I don't know what to say.

[Diane]

I also agree totally with Jack. Priscilla as some else already pointed out was all set to stay with the colonel. She had advisors and the judge to make her see the error of going in that direction. She is simply a figurehead, she is not doing the work and never has, she only makes speeches at a few functions and has interviews.

[kathy parkinson]

I also agree totally with Jack. Priscilla as some else already pointed out was all set to stay with the colonel. She had advisors and the judge to make her see the error of going in that direction. She is simply a figurehead, she is not doing the work and never has, she only makes speeches at a few functions and has interviews. While Lisa sits back and says,and does nothing.

[Diane]

While Lisa sits back and says,and does nothing.

Yes she's very much like her Dad in that way. Elvis left too many decisions up to the colonel and others that he should have taken the reins for himself.

[Vegas69]

While Lisa sits back and says,and does nothing.

While she needs own life she earsn pay from his legacy she should do something to earn it not just talk now again and not say nice things all time.
Yes as Diane say she is like her father in someways but no I dont think her not doing anything with the estate and dads legacy is reason for that.

[Tigerman1975]

At this point, I think Lisa Marie really should be the figure head. But she may not want to. That one hundred million that Sillerman gave her goes a long way and she may be content to stay in the shadows with her fancy homes.

[sasha]

We don't have to like everyone. Heaven knows, I don't. It would just be nice if we could all imagine ourselves in anothers place before we complain too loudly. From all I've seen Lisa has never wanted to be the "Face of Graceland/Elvis." I can't say I blame her. But, someone had to. Would we choose someone from his "friends" or can we just accept his ex -wife? Even after their divorce, I never saw Priscilla talk about him as bad as some others have. But, Elvis' music will remain, loved and remembered. In spite of all the bickering and disagreements I find everywhere about his personal life.
In my opinion, that was never anyones business.

[Vegas69]

At this point, I think Lisa Marie really should be the figure head. But she may not want to. That one hundred million that Sillerman gave her goes a long way and she may be content to stay in the shadows with her fancy homes.

I like reallies how you think. :) xx

[Vegas69]

We don't have to like everyone. Heaven knows, I don't. It would just be nice if we could all imagine ourselves in anothers place before we complain too loudly. From all I've seen Lisa has never wanted to be the "Face of Graceland/Elvis." I can't say I blame her. But, someone had to. Would we choose someone from his "friends" or can we just accept his ex -wife? Even after their divorce, I never saw Priscilla talk about him as bad as some others have. But, Elvis' music will remain, loved and remembered. In spite of all the bickering and disagreements I find everywhere about his personal life.
In my opinion, that was never anyones business.

But by Priss discussing their private lifes and what happened and maybe didn happen she opened door to is being everyones business. I would rather sees Billy Smith or another family member represent then an ex-wife who has spoken not so nice about him and blamed him for all her own problems like drgus when she took drugs long after he died by own words when with Mike Edward.
And Lisa Marie like the money her daddy bring her but want nothing to do with promoting and showin up for rewards here and there, not all times but now again would nice on her part like she doin for her mama.

[sasha]

But by Priss discussing their private lifes and what happened and maybe didn happen she opened door to is being everyones business. I would rather sees Billy Smith or another family member represent then an ex-wife who has spoken not so nice about him and blamed him for all her own problems like drgus when she took drugs long after he died by own words when with Mike Edward.
And Lisa Marie like the money her daddy bring her but want nothing to do with promoting and showin up for rewards here and there, not all times but now again would nice on her part like she doin for her mama.
I think you need to read a little more . It was his " friends" and his cousin, Billy Smith that told more than Priscilla ever thought about. I don't have much to say about Priscilla's personal life, I just looked at the business end mostly. But, from all I've seen she didn't do anything that Elvis didn't--first. I suspect none of us would appreciate every move we made to be in the paper or a book written about us either. They've handled it better than I ever could.
Along with the MM and his relatives. Look a little further, please. I don't hate any of them. I just like Elvis and his music.
As for Lisa, it was her dad that she was so crazy about, not her mother. Her mom had a lot of trouble with her .
I still wouldn't want to live any of their lives. Too much media attention and too little privacy.

[Vegas69]

I did read or maybes you ddin't read Priss book all way through where she speak of their sex life? Or how he do drugs. But if yo makes comment about not knowing her personal lives than you need to please read your posts again in defense of her. :)
And maybe you not see news report LIsa gonna be with mom for her mom award in Las Vegas? Where she is when her daddy gets awards? So yeah ma'am I do reads. :)
And again all thngs Priss say read and than makes comment about her not openin private doors. You canno have both ways you either private or not.

[sasha]

I did read or maybes you ddin't read Priss book all way through where she speak of their sex life? Or how he do drugs. But if yo makes comment about not knowing her personal lives than you need to please read your posts again in defense of her. :)
And maybe you not see news report LIsa gonna be with mom for her mom award in Las Vegas? Where she is when her daddy gets awards? So yeah ma'am I do reads. :)
And again all thngs Priss say read and than makes comment about her not openin private doors. You canno have both ways you either private or not.
I read Priscilla's book and believe me, I had plenty to say. Tell you what, I wish you the kind of life they've had to live. Have fun.Money has never brought happiness to anyone.

[Vegas69]

Gee I didn mean to make upset just opinion of people an fans, now I knows what Tigerman mean what he say. :( You know I would live they life, it better than many many peoples out there and is life they chose, if they wanna be annonymous they would have be but they all chose show business so how bad can be? And not about money and no not bring happiness but I don see them wanna give it up either and they always look to make more if not they would have again remove selves.

[sasha]

Gee I didn mean to make upset just opinion of people an fans, now I knows what Tigerman mean what he say. :( You know I would live they life, it better than many many peoples out there and is life they chose, if they wanna be annonymous they would have be but they all chose show business so how bad can be? And not about money and no not bring happiness but I don see them wanna give it up either and they always look to make more if not they would have again remove selves.

You didn't really upset me. I think I've been looking at some of this too long is all.
Neither were born into it though. Priscilla married into it. I think like most of us, she thought it would last forever. Lisa was just born into it. Both avoided the limelight for a very long time. Priscilla had no choice when she had to "take over" as an Executor. Lisa stayed out of it longer ,she even changed the date of where she would have had to
do anything. In my opinion, I believe they have good and bad memories of living at Graceland . I just wouldn't want to be them. I love Elvis and his music, but I can admit he had his faults, just like the rest of us.

[kathy parkinson]

Agree with you Sasha, Elvis left behind a huge legacy of music for all of us to enjoy, that's all that matters at the end of the day surely?

[Diane]

I think Lisa wants to remember her dad in private just as her dad and not as the "entertainer" and that is partly why she stays away from most functions. She also doesn't like to be cornered to talk about him. She never did like the media and I can't say I blame her.

[May]

, I never saw Priscilla talk about him as bad as some others have. But.

I agree to a point. We can't and don't have to like everyone. But Priscilla has said some not-so-nice things about Elvis. The one that springs to mind initially is what she wrote in her book - that Elvis raped her! Yes, she was careful not to use the word rape, but to say someone forcefully makes love to you certainly implies it. There are many other statements - mainly in EBTP - that put Elvis down.(n)

[May]

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I still wouldn't want to live any of their lives. Too much media attention and too little privacy.

I wholeheartedly agree with this. I could not imagine anything worse than being photographed all the time, being misquoted in newspapers and everything that goes with it. Yes of course there are up sides to being famous, but I wouldnt trade my privacy for any of those. I have seen Lisa react rudely to the media and absolutely dont blame her. One thing I will say for Priscilla is that she always does seem polite to the 'paps' even when they get in her face. She (quite rightly) ignores the stupid questions and does handle them well.

But again, she was all about the privacy after elvis died, and then suddenly she wants to be as in the limelight as he was, and yet remain private. You cant have it both ways.

[May]

You canno have both ways you either private or not.

Oh.:blush: I've just read this, after my last comment. But basically we are saying the same ;)

[May]

. Priscilla had no choice when she had to "take over" as an Executor.

:hmm: Didn't Priscilla herself persuade Vernon to make her executor? :doh: That's how it was according to everything I've read ?

Personally I think Pris enjoys being in the limelight, and being the spokesperson for EPE. I do think it should be Lisa Marie, but if Lisa doesnt want to do it, I guess that's her choice.

I think after P & E divorced she gave it all the "i want to be my own person" but as the years have rolled on she realises that most people will remember her as Elvis's (albeit ex) wife and she has accepted this now and revells in the attention.

[Diane]

:hmm: Didn't Priscilla herself persuade Vernon to make her executor? :doh: That's how it was according to everything I've read ?

Personally I think Pris enjoys being in the limelight, and being the spokesperson for EPE. I do think it should be Lisa Marie, but if Lisa doesnt want to do it, I guess that's her choice.

I think after P & E divorced she gave it all the "i want to be my own person" but as the years have rolled on she realises that most people will remember her as Elvis's (albeit ex) wife and she has accepted this now and revells in the attention.

Love this post!:D

[LaurieT]

From the time she heard he was in Germany she wanted to be known as Mrs. Elvis Presley. She pursued it and has made sure every one knew it for her whole life. She has done so many interviews, magazine photo shoots, and at every turn reminded the world of who she is/was. So please..I don't believe for a second she likes privacy or doesn't love the limelight and fame she so wanted, doesn't get her.

[sasha]

No, she didn't use the word "rape". Forcefully, yes. I've experienced "forcefully" from my husband, {who now is an EX} In my opinion this could/should have been left out. I didn't go around telling everyone. Not even in court. But, I still see his so called "friends" and relatives telling much more than she ever did. I'm sure she could have said more.But,none of that is any of my business.


I agree to a point. We can't and don't have to like everyone. But Priscilla has said some not-so-nice things about Elvis. The one that springs to mind initially is what she wrote in her book - that Elvis raped her! Yes, she was careful not to use the word rape, but to say someone forcefully makes love to you certainly implies it. There are many other statements - mainly in EBTP - that put Elvis down.(n)

[sasha]

We only have "stories" from his "friends." Most of whom were not even around at the time to know what happened with Vernon. He didn't appear to be "threatened" in the picture I've seen of Cilla, Lisa and him when he was in the hospital. In fact, he looked happier than I'd seen him since Elvis died.

As for wanting to be Mrs. Elvis Presley , who didn't? I know I would have liked it--for awhile. But, think I would have left sooner than she did.
To me, all this happened long ago and really doesn't pertain to any of us.Not worth talking about and not intended to try and change any minds. Just info.from the past.
I'd recommend reading Careless Love by Peter Guralnick for one. See how "friends" and family treated and used Elvis. Have fun......

[KPM]

I have always loved the stories that Priscilla somehow forced Vernon to make her the executor-I mean lets look at it honestly how could she threaten mentally or physicallya dying man to do anything? I'm sure Vernon wanted Lisa's future as secure as possible, and who better to do that than her mother. He also did not just make her the sole executor his will appointed 3. Priscilla may enjoy the limelight I'm sure but she also has had to endure the never ending second guessing and from some hatred of every move she has made. The other executors have had a picnic compared to the villification she has had placed on her. She is no saint by any means but then again neither was Elvis, or Vernon, or MM, or me etc......

[kathy parkinson]

There are always going to be fans who just don't like her period, no matter what she did,or didn't do, what she said or didn't say.
I don't have a problem with anyone connected to Elvis, i just love his music.

[monk37]

So goods your saying she was money hungry alls along. ugs him.


not exactly

I pointed out that because she was greedy then, that she reduced her future income.

as a consequence, to make the money now, she has to flog a lot of trashy stuff

while leaving the music to lazy greedier labels.



I have to wonder who the anti-Elvis is - someone who grew up with wealth and ever opportunity and a total support network

but somehow, he managed to throw it all away and live a long long life in obsurity

[May]

I have always loved the stories that Priscilla somehow forced Vernon to make her the executor-I mean lets look at it honestly how could she threaten mentally or physicallya dying man to do anything? ......

I'm not suggesting she 'forced' or 'threatened' Vernon to do anything. There are ways to get people to do things by manipulation or suggestion without forcing anyone. I've never read anything about her threatening Vernon physically??? :blink: Where's that from???:doh:

I have no idea how it happened but it does seem odd that over the years everything ive read or seen on tv , it all point to and says the same. Plus it makes sense. I don't think it was a bad decision either. Vernon was clearly ill, and if I had been in his position and knew that Elvis wanted the best for Lisa - who better to take over than her mother. She would surely look after her daughters best interests, all the time Lisa was unable to do it herself, being just a kid.

I was mainly answering the post that Priscilla had no choice about being executor (which was suggesting, to my mind, that she didnt want to be thrust into the limelight as executor) and pointing out that everything ive seen and read states that she persuaded -not forced or threatened- Vernon to name her as one of the executors.

[May]

Love this post!:D

cheers Diane!(y)

[May]

There are always going to be fans who just don't like her period, no matter what she did,or didn't do, what she said or didn't say.
.

You're right. And I dont really understand some fans who cannot stand her. It always surprises me how people claim to hate someone they dont know or even have met.
Yes, I can see their views, and I can also see the views also of people who dont like some of the things she does or has said, and a lot of things where she says one thing one minute and completely reverses it the next -but she isnt the devil!

What I'd be interested in is, had you (any of us) been in her exact position, what would we have done differently?

I do think Vernon did the right thing when he agreed to name her as executor. It was lucky also that the judge stepped in, hired a lawyer and asked what was the Colonel doing when Priscilla and the others readily agreed for him to carry on "Tcb-ing" (as it were) . Had he not done this, I wonder where EPE would be now ??

[Vegas69]

I don understand fans who defend this person who tore their idol down in order to better herslef. But you than probably dont understand my dislike for her. I love Elvis, he talent, he heart this woman done nothin on her own anyone who sayin other way has been brainwash. If Elvis wanted her to be in estate business he would have name her but he didn did he?
Marty also has said Elvis lots of times said he want Priss nowhere near his estate. I dont have to meet her to listen to what she sayin and how she sayin it too know she is exact opposte of someone I would like.

She is opportunist and user otherwise she would kept her Beaulieu name and moved on.

[Tigerman1975]

She is opportunist and user otherwise she would kept her Beaulieu name and moved on.


This statement pretty much sums it up it my opinion. Now I dont know if this is the way that she comes across in person, but thats the way that she appears to me. In the interest of fairness, she didnt place the proverbial EPE ball in her own hands, but when she got it she certainly did run with it.

[kathy parkinson]

I find it very offensive to be called brainwashed, you weren't there,and neither was i, this is Elvis's family. I too love his music which is timeless, he left us a great legacy, jusy chill out and enjoy his music. If you find this offensive then i apologise.

[Diane]

This statement pretty much sums it up it my opinion. Now I dont know if this is the way that she comes across in person, but thats the way that she appears to me. In the interest of fairness, she didnt place the proverbial EPE ball in her own hands, but when she got it she certainly did run with it.

That's the way it looks to me too. I certainly don't hate the woman but I can't really respect her either.

[SleepyJack]

Just to ease the tension...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZdxJFLWx5M

[Diane]

Ohhhhhhhhhh haaaaaaaaaaa:lol::lol::lol:

[SleepyJack]

:whistling:whistling:whistling:whistling

[Cliff]

It's amazing that anything about Priscilla gets more response than any thread about Elvis. Perhaps Albert should change the name of the site from TCB World to TCP World.

[sasha]

There's a lot of life we knew nothing about and neither did the ones doing all the talking.
They weren't around . I borrowed these .

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/zorahday/More%20ELVIS/aug1978.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/zorahday/More%20ELVIS/VernonHospital.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/zorahday/More%20ELVIS/LV1978aug.jpg

http://www.rareelvispresley.com/

Priscilla managed her boutique, before getting into acting for the better part of two decades, which included roles on “Dallas”(CBS, 1978-1991) and the “Naked Gun” screen comedies. {After Vernon died }
Her influence later expanded to include a best-selling autobiography and a line of beauty products, but her most impressive achievement was the transformation of Elvis’ home, Graceland, into a world-class tourist attraction.Which has now become a National monument.

[May]

It's amazing that anything about Priscilla gets more response than any thread about Elvis. Perhaps Albert should change the name of the site from TCB World to TCP World.

I cant think of any part of Elvis's life that hasnt been discussed already. Plus everyone on here are Elvis fans, there is a lot more opposition on anything "Priscilla", so more views and more to discuss. I guess.

[LaurieT]

[QUOTE=Tigerman1975;389403]This statement pretty much sums it up it my opinion. Now I dont know if this is the way that she comes across in person, but thats the way that she appears to me. In the interest of fairness, she didnt place the proverbial EPE ball in her own hands, but when she got it she certainly did run with it.[/QUOTE}

I guess that depend on how you look at it. When she held the second part of her divorce settlement over Elvis's head, and then Vernon's then ya, she knew what she was doing and did put it in her hand. Sorry but people seems a bit naive.

[Vegas69]

Thank you Tigerman your response always means lots good to me. :)
Kathy sorries I offended you but that is my view some fans seem to love Priss more than Elvis and they would not know anythin about this person had not been for him
She only had her boutique 2 years an didn know what she was doin by her account and her partner and she used her Elvis connection or maybe you don see the big pictures she had up in her window showin tilte Ex wife of Elvis speaks from one of the magazines in early 1970s. Dallas could have done without her she was not essential and her actin was question at best. Naked Gun yeah they were Elvis fans and what she do of significance since? And those movies I wouldn exactly call Oscar stuffs.

No none of us were there agree but I can listen to her go back through years of her interviwin and know she is full of it and again a opportunist and user who would be nothin without that last name she claims to be burden but was quick to take back and not lettin it go.

LOL at the Devil in Disguise viedo good one.

I really agree Laurie in you sayin that.

[Vegas69]

I forget to sayin its okay Kathy I no mad at what you say and I no mean to make you upset you have rights to say what you think and feel and thank you for lettin me. :)

[kathy parkinson]

Thank you Vegas for your reply, the only thing what bothered me was you saying i was brainwashed. I have been an Elvis fan since 1956. always will be,your right in saying that without Elvis we would probably never have heard of Priscilla or any of the guys who were in his life,but these are the people he chose to have in his life. I certainly do not prefer Priscilla to Elvis,but i am not a priscilla hater,i am not fond of some of the guys either,but all of these people Elvis loved.
I enjoy a healthy debate on here, we all have different opinions, that is a good thing, i just love his music,and to me, that is what's important.

[Tigerman1975]

[QUOTE=Tigerman1975;389403]This statement pretty much sums it up it my opinion. Now I dont know if this is the way that she comes across in person, but thats the way that she appears to me. In the interest of fairness, she didnt place the proverbial EPE ball in her own hands, but when she got it she certainly did run with it.[/QUOTE}

I guess that depend on how you look at it.


You are right. That is how I choose to see it. As far as the naive part goes... I'm not even going to dignify that with a comment.

[Vegas69]

Kathy I is very sorry you not in my brain when I say that comment. I agree in parts what you sayin but I see it this away-just cause they in Elvis life and he chooses to have them there doesnt make it so I have to automatically respect or likes them includin Priss and I hear plenty that he did not love her and speak of her as fond as he did in public cause he was honorable man and didn want to upset his daughter or air personals on his ex wife she didn show him same respect for that I donno like her that and things I say before what I no likes about her.
His heart what makes me loves him long time now with all faults in account I still think I would takes him on a bad day over Priss good day any times.

[Vegas69]

Ooohhhh Tigermans again such good posts from you I sorry I no stalk you or nothin like that but I tells my husband what you says on here and he says it is nice that some peoples see things clear and say without fights he says I need to learns from you. lol

[kathy parkinson]

Kathy I is very sorry you not in my brain when I say that comment. I agree in parts what you sayin but I see it this away-just cause they in Elvis life and he chooses to have them there doesnt make it so I have to automatically respect or likes them includin Priss and I hear plenty that he did not love her and speak of her as fond as he did in public cause he was honorable man and didn want to upset his daughter or air personals on his ex wife she didn show him same respect for that I donno like her that and things I say before what I no likes about her.
His heart what makes me loves him long time now with all faults in account I still think I would takes him on a bad day over Priss good day any times. Thank you Vegas, like i said it's good to have a healthy debate, i like to read your comments, we may disagree on certain things,but we don't fight, you have a nice day.

[Vegas69]

Thanks you Kathy. I be careful of how I says things cause I donno want to upset anyone. Thanks for liking my comments English not so great or writin and thanks for sayin that. I donno like to fight with anybody just like to say what I thinks and hear what other persons think.
You have a nice good day to.

[dstrattenfan]

Well it doesnt come as much of a suprise to me that she only associates with Esposito and Schilling. I'll stop with that. I would like to see the show though. A woman that I work with saw it recently with her husband and said that it rocked.
This is why I love u tigerman couldn't have said it better myself;)

[LaurieT]

[QUOTE=LaurieT;389464]


You are right. That is how I choose to see it. As far as the naive part goes... I'm not even going to dignify that with a comment.

To clarify, I wasn't speaking of you Tiger. I have read many posts on Priscilla. Often it's confusing. One will give her credit and then later say she never intended anything. I have reason to believe Priscilla knew exactly what she was going for long before Elvis passed.

[sasha]

Viva Elvis Media Tour

"Every time I see the show, I take notes," Priscilla told me in a one-on-one conversation before the gala. "It's in the best shape it's ever been since it's started. I think it's much tighter. They've added more Cirque elements. I think that the dance numbers are better and so smooth.

"We're still working on some music. They promised to put a little more gospel in it. More gospel, that was really where his roots were. They're going to add more of him right in the beginning. And we're still working on the 'Jail House Rock' number and trying to get him in that, too. They need him in that. Even though you're blown away by the guys walking upside down, Elvis should be there. They are working on that.

"It's been a long journey, but it's a wonderful tribute to him -- Cirque's incredible celebration of Elvis. I'm thrilled a whole new generation of people, children who now come with their parents who were originally taken to see Elvis by their own parents -- that's three generations -- are now being introduced to him. Obviously even as a young kid, there's something that connects Elvis with children, too. We're nurturing that generation now."

[Tigerman1975]

[QUOTE=Tigerman1975;389525]

To clarify, I wasn't speaking of you Tiger. I have read many posts on Priscilla. Often it's confusing. One will give her credit and then later say she never intended anything. I have reason to believe Priscilla knew exactly what she was going for long before Elvis passed.

If you werent referring to me Laurie, then I apologize.

[Tigerman1975]

This is why I love u tigerman couldn't have said it better myself;)

Why thank you.

[dstrattenfan]

Why thank you.
I got u babe;)

[KPM]

I'm not suggesting she 'forced' or 'threatened' Vernon to do anything. There are ways to get people to do things by manipulation or suggestion without forcing anyone. I've never read anything about her threatening Vernon physically??? :blink: Where's that from???:doh:

I have no idea how it happened but it does seem odd that over the years everything ive read or seen on tv , it all point to and says the same. Plus it makes sense. I don't think it was a bad decision either. Vernon was clearly ill, and if I had been in his position and knew that Elvis wanted the best for Lisa - who better to take over than her mother. She would surely look after her daughters best interests, all the time Lisa was unable to do it herself, being just a kid.

I was mainly answering the post that Priscilla had no choice about being executor (which was suggesting, to my mind, that she didnt want to be thrust into the limelight as executor) and pointing out that everything ive seen and read states that she persuaded -not forced or threatened- Vernon to name her as one of the executors.
The implication from some has always been that somehow, someway, hook or crook-Priscilla convinced Vernon to make her an executor and IMO that paints Priscilla the "bad guy" which is what many want to do-that was my point. Honestly lets all look at it from Priscillas view-she knew she would be villified by fans who already hated her long before she was an executor, she knew she would be blamed if the estate fell into bankruptcy, she knew she would be blamed if she opened the doors to the public, she knew she would...........be blamed!
She knew all of this-and stepped up and said, "well what choice do I have-Lisa is my daughter"?
She takes all the heat-rarely has anyone attacked the other 2 co-executors as money hungry or power mad or uncaring about Elvis and his image, its either Priscilla or Lisa who get the heat of fans and public.
IMO That takes guts to attempt something-and know about 60 to 70% of the people will hate you, criticize you, and second guess you every moment you live.
She is no saint but no one on earth is-no one on earth has "walked in her shoes, had to listen to her critics, or raise the child she and Elvis conceived" so going by Elvis's own words I try to remember.... we have not trod that ground in her footware.
I try to be somewhat understanding of the uniqueness of this situation-that she is in.

[dstrattenfan]

The implication from some has always been that somehow, someway, hook or crook-Priscilla convinced Vernon to make her an executor and IMO that paints Priscilla the "bad guy" which is what many want to do-that was my point. Honestly lets all look at it from Priscillas view-she knew she would be villified by fans who already hated her long before she was an executor, she knew she would be blamed if the estate fell into bankruptcy, she knew she would be blamed if she opened the doors to the public, she knew she would...........be blamed!
She knew all of this-and stepped up and said, "well what choice do I have-Lisa is my daughter"?
She takes all the heat-rarely has anyone attacked the other 2 co-executors as money hungry or power mad or uncaring about Elvis and his image, its either Priscilla or Lisa who get the heat of fans and public.
IMO That takes guts to attempt something-and know about 60 to 70% of the people will hate you, criticize you, and second guess you every moment you live.
She is no saint but no one on earth is-no one on earth has "walked in her shoes, had to listen to her critics, or raise the child she and Elvis conceived" so going by Elvis's own words I try to remember.... we have not trod that ground in her footware.
I try to be somewhat understanding of the uniqueness of this situation-that she is in.
She is disliked by many bc HER OWN ACTIONS,,,,, she has a pi$$poor attitude and a chip on her shoulder so large IDK how she doesn't have a debilitating back ailment..she is cold, calloused and cruel she is a liar and thats been proven....

I dont simply dislike her for being w/ E that has nothing to do w it....I dont know nor care how or why she got it all :contract:I just know that she didn't do this out of love not for Lisa not for Elvis and certainly not for us fans she secured her own financial stability buy securing Lisa's and I dont think anyone can argue that...something was in it for her :supriced:

[Vegas69]

She is disliked by many bc HER OWN ACTIONS,,,,, she has a pi$$poor attitude and a chip on her shoulder so large IDK how she doesn't have a debilitating back ailment..she is cold, calloused and cruel she is a liar and thats been proven....

I dont simply dislike her for being w/ E that has nothing to do w it....I dont know nor care how or why she got it all :contract:I just know that she didn't do this out of love not for Lisa not for Elvis and certainly not for us fans she secured her own financial stability buy securing Lisa's and I dont think anyone can argue that...something was in it for her :supriced:

LOVE you posts you say so well and I agree lots and lots with you. And the other 2s executors werent against Elvis and bad mouth him.

[Tommy]

The implication from some has always been that somehow, someway, hook or crook-Priscilla convinced Vernon to make her an executor and IMO that paints Priscilla the "bad guy" which is what many want to do-that was my point. Honestly lets all look at it from Priscillas view-she knew she would be villified by fans who already hated her long before she was an executor, she knew she would be blamed if the estate fell into bankruptcy, she knew she would be blamed if she opened the doors to the public, she knew she would...........be blamed!
She knew all of this-and stepped up and said, "well what choice do I have-Lisa is my daughter"?
She takes all the heat-rarely has anyone attacked the other 2 co-executors as money hungry or power mad or uncaring about Elvis and his image, its either Priscilla or Lisa who get the heat of fans and public.
IMO That takes guts to attempt something-and know about 60 to 70% of the people will hate you, criticize you, and second guess you every moment you live.
She is no saint but no one on earth is-no one on earth has "walked in her shoes, had to listen to her critics, or raise the child she and Elvis conceived" so going by Elvis's own words I try to remember.... we have not trod that ground in her footware.
I try to be somewhat understanding of the uniqueness of this situation-that she is in.

I agree! (y)

[sasha]

I agree with you, KPM.
The thing is; not one of us knew Elvis or Priscilla personally. I'm sure a case could be made for both. I can only say, I'd not be comfortable in that lifestyle. In my opinion, I don't think either of them were. It's a rough life from what I've seen. Especially if you try to be married and have a family. Elvis is an emotional topic. I try to not fight and argue about any of it. All anyone can do is just find the most honest reports about things. Very hard to do sometimes with so much "stuff" out here from everyone that claims to be his "best friend." They've had 30 plus years to spread their hate/jealousy around. I'm just glad I took the time to look for myself instead of listening to some of the others.

[Vegas69]

And Pris was among those in the 30 years slingin muds is all some of we are sayin. She is no innocent in this, her own things she say and do make fans not like her that see pass the pr stuff she puts out there and some fans buy.

[Vegas69]

And rough life so much she go right back to midst of it in LA when she could move anywhere in world and be annonymous.

[May]

She is disliked by many bc HER OWN ACTIONS,,,,, she has a pi$$poor attitude and a chip on her shoulder so large IDK how she doesn't have a debilitating back ailment..she is cold, calloused and cruel she is a liar and thats been proven....

I dont simply dislike her for being w/ E that has nothing to do w it....I dont know nor care how or why she got it all :contract:I just know that she didn't do this out of love not for Lisa not for Elvis and certainly not for us fans she secured her own financial stability buy securing Lisa's and I dont think anyone can argue that...something was in it for her :supriced:

Good post. Also it made me wonder, if Priscilla hadn't convinced Vernon she should be an executor, wonder what would she be doing now? As by all accounts Graceland would have been sold. So with Graceland sold, Lisa doing her own thing, I wonder if Pris would just be doing interviews and, well, what else!?

I heard that Vernon had discussed opening Graceland to the public (think I read it). Obviously the Meditation Gardens were opened before Graceland was, but I don't know what the outcome of that discussion was. Whether Vernon became too ill to carry out the idea, or it was just dismissed. But had P not become an exec, as this discussion had apparently taken place, I wonder if one of the other execs would have carried it through and Graceland would be open anyway.:hmm:

[LaurieT]

The implication from some has always been that somehow, someway, hook or crook-Priscilla convinced Vernon to make her an executor and IMO that paints Priscilla the "bad guy" which is what many want to do-that was my point. Honestly lets all look at it from Priscillas view-she knew she would be villified by fans who already hated her long before she was an executor, she knew she would be blamed if the estate fell into bankruptcy, she knew she would be blamed if she opened the doors to the public, she knew she would...........be blamed!
She knew all of this-and stepped up and said, "well what choice do I have-Lisa is my daughter"?
She takes all the heat-rarely has anyone attacked the other 2 co-executors as money hungry or power mad or uncaring about Elvis and his image, its either Priscilla or Lisa who get the heat of fans and public.
IMO That takes guts to attempt something-and know about 60 to 70% of the people will hate you, criticize you, and second guess you every moment you live.
She is no saint but no one on earth is-no one on earth has "walked in her shoes, had to listen to her critics, or raise the child she and Elvis conceived" so going by Elvis's own words I try to remember.... we have not trod that ground in her footware.
I try to be somewhat understanding of the uniqueness of this situation-that she is in.

Guts?? When millions are at the end of the rainbow?? Sure. Make up your mind, either the co-executors helped or didn't. Priscilla takes the credit so she gets the heat. That's they way it is. She acts like she single handedly made the estate into a billion dollar enterprize. You can't have it both ways. And don't fool yourself, she loves the attention. That was one problem she had when with Elvis, she wasn't getting enough of her own notarity-she even said so.
And have you not heard--even bad P.R. is still P.R. and with out putting her face out there constantly, she would be getting neither good or bad. Had she done what other "ex wives"..then she could still rake in her millions and be left alone.
Name one other ex wife who represents her dead husbands name???
I don't feel sorry for her one bit. She set out to get Elvis, she got him. She wanted to be Mrs. Elvis Presley, she wanted fame through it and that is what she got, and she has held on to that with all her might, even to the point of not allowing her own daughter over shadow her. How would anyone even know if Lisa ever even had a desire to be in Priscilla's place??? Cilla would have had to give up the one thing she lived for. Lisa knows that.

[sasha]

What most fail to take into account was that Elvis was one of the most poorly managed and self-indulgent superstars in entertainment history. True, he had generated more than $4 billion in revenues during his career. But surprisingly little of that money found its way into his pockets-and even less stayed there.
Bad management and bad financial advice ate up about 60 cents of every dollar Elvis earned
It turned out that his manager, Colonel Tom Parker, had made a deal that cost Elvis more than $500 million in potential earning-including $320 million in lost royalties from records sold after Elvis’s death alone. In March 1973, he’d sold RCA the royalty rights to all of Elvis’s songs up to that point for $5.4 million. After Parker extracted his usual 50% commission, Elvis was left with $2.7 million-$1.35 million after taxes-for virtually his entire life’s work.

As Sean O’Neal writes in Elvis, Inc.,”The final agreement signed by Colonel Parker…may have been the single most damaging contract in the history of the music industry…Elvis sold the rights to the greatest master catalog in music history and was left with virtually nothing to show for it. Thereafter, his estate received no royalties at all for any songs Elvis recorded prior to March 1973.”

When the probate court tallied up the King’s assets, all they found was Graceland, two airplanes, eight cars, two trucks, seven motorcycles, guns, jewelry, and miscellaneous other personal property. Total value: about $7 million. Elvis left everything to his 9-year-old daughter, Lisa Marie, who would inherit when she turned 25. Elvis’s father Vernon Presley, a man with a seventh-grade education, was charged with keeping the estate solvent until then.

What little was left of the Presley estate dwindled fast: in February 1978 the National Bank of Commerce sued the estate to collect $1.4 million in unpaid loans . A short time later, the IRS upgraded its estimate of the estate’s value and slapped it with millions in new inheritance taxes-payable immediately. Security and upkeep on Graceland ate up $500,000 a year.



Vernon Presley sold off the airplanes, jewelry, and Cadillacs, and even the house that Elvis had bought him, in a desperate scramble to keep the estate off the auction block. But the Presley estate was edging closer and closer to bankruptcy.

The effort to keep Elvis’s estate out of bankruptcy was exhausting and probably contributed to his father Vernon Presley’s death from heart disease in June 1979.

In his will, Vernon named three co-executors to take over his responsibilities: Elvis’s accountant Joseph Hanks, the National Bank of Commerce, and Priscilla Presley-Elvis’s ex-wife and the mother of his daughter Lisa Marie. Priscilla had no business experience and had known nothing about the King’s financial affairs during the marriage… but to everyone’s surprise, she and her advisors took a leading role in rescuing the Presley estate for Lisa Marie.

With the bulk of Elvis’s fortune gone forever, the executors were forced to make the best of what remained, namely 1) Graceland, and 2) Elvis’s name and likeness.


Everyone can hate Priscilla if they want to, I'm just glad she saw fit to hang in there and help get the job done. If not, I'd never have been able to see all that made up Elvis Presley.

[debtdbruno]

I'm afraid I'm one of the people who straddle the fence where she is concerned..............

I didn't live her life, and Elvis wouldn't have been the easiest Man to live with, however it was her choice to marry him..........sooo
Her keeping of the Presley name, however she is legally entitled to it sticks in my throat.......however!!!!

We cannot see inside her mind to judge her motivations for getting involved with keeping Graceland.....sure Lisa is her Daughter........but was it totally selfless............I dunno..........none of us do.......

The end thing is we do have somewhere to go to visit Elvis, and there are products out there to buy. Whether you choose to buy them is up to the individual. There's not much else they can do without owning the rights to his music...............

[sasha]

I only know what I would have done. Sold the whole mess,and what was left {if anything} I'd just put it in the bank and get on with my life. I don't have much patience though. Just glad someone took care of it for me.The sooner I could get away from any of my ex's problems, the better I liked it.

I've been straddling the fence on Cilla for a long time. I just give credit where credit is due, don't have to like the person...:} Now, it's up to Sillerman . We'll see what he can do.

I hope everyone can read .... Guess not .

[Vegas69]

So good way you say Laurie.
And five million dollars for way than was nothin to yawn at and again Elvis sell Elvis not his ex-wife. She do more damage than good. Graceland would have been open no matter she there or not. And she steal her daughter rightful place. Maybe Lisa would like to have be there but mommy would no let her.

[May]

. Graceland would have been open no matter she there or not. .

That's what I would like to know. If the other execs would have opened Graceland anyway, from Vernon's idea. ??

[sasha]

That's what I would like to know. If the other execs would have opened Graceland anyway, from Vernon's idea. ??

Because of what was reported then, I guess I'd wonder if the other Executors would have the authority to open Graceland as a business. They DID have the authority to sell it and pay off the debts/back taxes, etc. As Lisa's mother/guardian , I'm sure that might have helped their position.All this is something we'll never know; unless we were one of them .

" February 1978 the National Bank of Commerce sued the estate to collect $1.4 million in unpaid loans . A short time later, the IRS upgraded its estimate of the estate’s value and slapped it with millions in new inheritance taxes-payable immediately. Security and upkeep on Graceland ate up $500,000 a year."

[Tigerman1975]

What most fail to take into account was that Elvis was one of the most poorly managed and self-indulgent superstars in entertainment history.


That is an understatement. The Colonel walked away with a large amount of Elvis' money. I think if Weintraub would have took over in the early to mid 70's Elvis might have had more money when he died. Thats not counting the large amounts that he chose to spend.

[KPM]

Guts?? When millions are at the end of the rainbow?? Sure. Make up your mind, either the co-executors helped or didn't. Priscilla takes the credit so she gets the heat. That's they way it is. She acts like she single handedly made the estate into a billion dollar enterprize. You can't have it both ways. And don't fool yourself, she loves the attention. That was one problem she had when with Elvis, she wasn't getting enough of her own notarity-she even said so.
And have you not heard--even bad P.R. is still P.R. and with out putting her face out there constantly, she would be getting neither good or bad. Had she done what other "ex wives"..then she could still rake in her millions and be left alone.
Name one other ex wife who represents her dead husbands name???
I don't feel sorry for her one bit. She set out to get Elvis, she got him. She wanted to be Mrs. Elvis Presley, she wanted fame through it and that is what she got, and she has held on to that with all her might, even to the point of not allowing her own daughter over shadow her. How would anyone even know if Lisa ever even had a desire to be in Priscilla's place??? Cilla would have had to give up the one thing she lived for. Lisa knows that.
Yes it took guts-there was no guarantee of success, there was no guarantee of a "rainbow or millions" there was great great risk with the remaining money on hand. You neglect the fact that the probate judge had more to say than just about anyone involved. He reviewed the estate and was worried enough to demand that Parker be sued to free the estate of money being drained by his deals with Vernon, he then told the 3 co-executors the estate was in danger of insolvency-and they had to come up with some plan to increase the incoming cash flow. That was exactly what his job was-to make sure that everything possible was done to keep Lisa's inheritance intact and growing.....as Elvis intended with "HIS" will.

The "CO" Executors did just that-I give them "ALL" credit -they took a risk and it paid off big time-Lisa inheritance was not just secure-but growing...........the probate judge is really the man IMO who should be given a lot more credit-he forced the issue.
I have never heard Priscilla even hint that she single handidly saved the estate-she admits that many many people have shaped the success of opening up Graceland.
But lets say they had decided to not open it up-lets say she and the others had said no-we can not risk to spend the capital we have to do what it takes to open up Graceland-and so Graceland would have been auctioned off, all of the cars, all of the jewelry, all the suits, personal items of Elvis, etc in one large swoop-IMO that would have been such a terrible ending to his life- the appearance of total failure.....no matter how you cut it when your home ends up on an auction block with all your worldly goods-it is a sad legacy of that persons life. We did not have to see that happen-now if they auction off anything, for charity we see good coming from the decision to open up the home. We see Lisa and Elvis's grandkids financially secure forever (and their childrens children more than likely) Elvis would want that-do not kid yourself and think he would not want that-he was poor, he would never want Lisa or his grandkids to be anything but rich and secure.That has been done.
I want to make this clear I am not a huge fan of Priscilla, she is many things.....but I am not going to say when she met Elvis at 14...she then devised a fiendishly evil plot to someday end up with Elvis dying at 42, Vernon dying a few years later and then she was in the catbirds seat for wealth, fame, and spotlight......thats just too farfetched. Life happens to us all, Elvis, Priscilla, Lisa...you....me.... all of us.
All imperfect, all with faults and good points-I am not going to villify her but I will honestly look at the situation and give her credit for the things I think she did well, or for guts, or for the love she has to have for Lisa, and her work to make sure Lisa's interests were taken care of as Elvis Presleys sole heir. As far as overshadowing Lisa-at the age required in the will Lisa could have taken control of her interests and lets remember she decided not to at that time.........................I would guess that she saw the responsibility of the situation, the pressure, work, and the second guessing by many that came with it and said "no way"
I am sorry we disagree....thats life.......but I can not say she is evil incarnate.
Elvis was human, he had faults, weaknesses, and they do not strip him of his strengths, loving, generous, super talented, charismatic, and caring.
Priscilla is human she has faults, weaknesses, and they do not negate her good points or make every single thing she does suspect.IMO

[KPM]

If Weintraub would have taken over I can guarantee a European tour would have happened, then probably Australia, South America, etc.....in large arena's....the big venues that Col did not want to book. Millions upon millions would have come into Elvis's pockets more than maybe he even could imagine. A European tour would have netted 10 times what selling the pre 73 Elvis recorded legacy brought in-not to mention recordings of historic shows etc........what a waste that this never happened.

[kathy parkinson]

Agree with you last two comments, your first one was very thoroughly written, to think there might not have been a Graceland after 77 doesn't bare thinking about, the anti-priscilla people still won't see it that way, but at the end of the day we are all Elvis fans.
Your second comment was spot on, while i think Parker was good for Elvis in the beginning, he certainly wasn't later on, i really wished he had changed managers, but, sadly wasn't to be. Brilliant comments, thank you.

[Tigerman1975]

If Weintraub would have taken over I can guarantee a European tour would have happened, then probably Australia, South America, etc.....in large arena's....the big venues that Col did not want to book. Millions upon millions would have come into Elvis's pockets more than maybe he even could imagine. A European tour would have netted 10 times what selling the pre 73 Elvis recorded legacy brought in-not to mention recordings of historic shows etc........what a waste that this never happened.

Thats what I was thinking.

[Vegas69]

Weintraub also represent Lisa for while two. :) I wonder why he no take over? Why Elvis no go with him by that times he was tired and angry with Col anyway right?

[Vegas69]

There always would be a Graceland with or without Priscilla. Vernon wanted to sell in 1978 and Lisa upset bout it. Anyone who buy it would know the value of it to fans and turn into into business as is today. Anyone who think otherwise oh well they just love Priss no matter what and dont see and read her words too close and believe her ever changin lies and stories.

[sasha]

Thanks ,KPM. I agree with your posts. No one can quite say it as well as you .....:}
But, anger.jealousy and hate seem to be a big part of Elvis' world. Then and now.
I hope he can RIP before too much longer.

[Vegas69]

Anger jealousy and hate over whats? Fans who sees Priss for what she is do so due to her own words and actions, she is reason for the negative towards her as DStraten fan so well said in prior posts. I love how those who see Priss as saint always falls back on jealousy when has nothin to do with it. I would no marry Elvis just cause I like him as person and talent no mean I want to be his wife so that angle is just somethin for someone without better argument to fall back on jealousy words.

[kathy parkinson]

Vegas, it isn't about people loving Pricilla, nobody has said they do, KPM,and Sasha have posted the contents of Elvis's will, the request from Vernon, the probate judge's recommendations,and still you don't believe it, that is your opinion of course, you are entitled to say what you think, and i respect that. You say Vernon wanted to sell Graceland in 78 and that 10 year old Lisa was very upset, please can you put here proof of that, like KPM and Sasha have done, thank you................. Sasha, you are so right in your comments,wouldn't it be great if ALL Elvis fans could just enjoy his legacy of music,and put everything else to rest?

[Vegas69]

It was in Canada newspaper friend show me I try to find online, is true, got 25 million offers for it and Jack Soden make mention of it to once. And they didn sell cause of the graves.
I no say I dont believe what they post just sayin that Priss not the brain some give credit to her fors if probate court had to stop her with Col..
And yeah we all have right to our opinions and mine is that Elvis legacy is due to elvis no his ex wife that some fans worship for nothin.

[Vegas69]

One for city deal in '79 still lookin for the ones from '78 where a business man offered 25 million. Lisa upset so Vernon back off. And in 81 person Priss original hired to look after Lisa interest wanted to sell Graceland but he die and Soden takes over and tells Priss to open house.

From the Memphis Flyer:

COMMENTARY: ANALYSIS OF THE GRACELAND DEAL

“The King is Dead. The King is Dead. Long Live the King.”

In 1979 Memphis Mayor Wyeth Chandler wanted the city to buy Graceland (asking price rumored to be $10-11 million).

I still hunting for Canada paper report from '78 on the 25 million offers to Vernon from businessman.

[kathy parkinson]

Thank you Vegas69.

[sasha]

http://www.elvisinfonet.com/saleofestate_memphisflyer.html

From the Memphis Flyer:

COMMENTARY: ANALYSIS OF THE GRACELAND DEAL

“The King is Dead. The King is Dead. Long Live the King.”

In 1979 Memphis Mayor Wyeth Chandler wanted the city to buy Graceland (asking price rumored to be $10-11 million). Jack Soden’s business partner, who handled Lisa Marie Presley’s estate for Priscilla Presley, wanted to sell Graceland in 1981. It is a good thing for Lisa Marie Presley that neither got their wish. Soden’s business partner, Morgan Maxfield, died an untimely death in a private jet crash over Labor Day weekend in 1981, leaving Soden to pursue his vision of opening Graceland to a very hungry public.

When Soden took over Graceland and the formation of Elvis Presley Enterprises, Graceland itself hemorrhaged money. Colonel Parker’s “accounting” for Vernon Presley had bled the estate dry. The IRS wanted a big chunk of change from the estate, too. Fans wanted to visit Graceland, but security costs and upkeep kept the estate finances in negative territory to the tune of approximately $500,000 a year. Elvis’ reputation had taken a beating by the Dr. George Nichopolous trial as well as the tawdry details of Albert Goldman’s book Elvis. Elvis’ world did not look so good.

Elvis’ chronicler Bill Burk wrote in June, 1982: “When Graceland swings its doors open Monday, it will be like the founding of a new industry in Memphis.” And right he was! Admission was $5.00 a head and thousands of fans (and fanatics) lined up every morning for the new tour. Graceland could handle three thousand per day, and in the first year Elvis Presley Enterprises took in $1.35 million. Cash poured through the doors The next task Soden had was to corral all of the unlicensed Elvis products on the market and create a new paradigm for the intellectual property (trademark and copyrights) of a celebrity’s image.

Soden and company did not just re-write the book on the celebrity image business; they created the rules of the industry. There is no doubt that they were the force behind the 1984 Tennessee statute regarding Protection of Personal Rights. EPE has used its war chest and lawyers to pursue the rights of Elvis’ image to the ends of the earth, at times at a major negative publicity cost. Seldom has Soden’s team lost, and when they have, it has been over inconsequential financial circumstances. Their litigiousness has made hucksters reconsider illegally using the King’s image and has increased the negotiation value of the estate with any legitimate licensees.

Twenty-two years later, Elvis’ image is restored. EPE’s business is intact, running like a well-oiled machine and clearing $12 million a year in profit (a surprising figure, given the very few music rights available to EPE for Elvis’ biggest hits, an unfortunate Colonel Parker legacy). EPE has just negotiated a sweetheart deal for Lisa Marie Presley.

Presley’s new benefactor is media mogul Robert Sillerman, who made a massive fortune selling his concert company SFX to Clear Channel for over $4 billion in 2000. Presley will receive $53 million in cash; $25 million in debt assumption; and $22 million in preferred stock of Sillerman’s new company as well as 500,000 shares in common stock of Sillerman’s new company. She will still own 15% of Elvis Presley Enterprises, which Sillerman is buying.

What did Presley have to give up for this treasure trove of receivables? She keeps her father’s personal effects and Graceland, which is a great p.r. move for her appeasing the zealotlike Elvis fans as well as a physical and emotional tie to her father. She will continue to license the use of Graceland and these effects through EPE to Sillerman’s company. She merely extends the licensing capabilities from EPE to Sillerman’s company for worldwide promotion and exploitation. In effect she is giving the rights to Elvis’ image that EPE has accrued and has been licensing worldwide to Sillerman’s new company for a huge chunk of change plus approximately 15% of Sillerman’s new company.

If Sillerman creates a bigger licensing market for Elvis, she will profit nicely. If not, she will have received almost 8.5 times EPE’s net profit per year for those rights. Although all employees of EPE are listed as remaining, were he to retire after this deal, Soden could smile, knowing that he had mastered the art of the Colonel Parker deal, getting far more than ever imaginable from the use of Elvis.

So Sillerman got taken on this deal, eh? Not exactly. Sillerman has enough resources and capital to take Elvis to the ends of the earth, where Elvis has not yet reached his potential. Translation: Graceland will still be Elvis’ home base, but, hello, Japan, China, and Europe, where Elvis is extremely well-known and his image use is very under-served.

Not mentioned in the deal but certainly implicit is that Elvis the image has just become the star attraction and calling card in a new entertainment company. Sillerman will undoubtably use the Elvis image as bait to attract licenses from other celebrities (and their estates) alive and dead (“Hey, kiddo, if it’s good enough for the King, you can’t go wrong with Sillerman…”).

It would be hard to argue that the #1 entertainment image in the world is a bad one with which to begin a company. Most media buyers will take Sillerman’s calls just on the Elvis name, if they were not familiar with him previous to this deal. Memphis probably will not notice much difference in the use of the image, but other countries will most likely see a much higher presence of the King in all media formats One thing concerning the deal that gives Presley watcher’s pause is Lisa Marie herself. How has EPE built $25 million worth of debt with $12 million in net profit per year?

Obviously her marriage to Michael Jackson taught her the profligate ways of Hollywood. Or perhaps this deal will merely cover some sort of massive Scientology debt she owes. Ms. Presley is approaching her maximum spending years, and if she continues to spend more than she makes, this deal would merely be a one time stopgap.

Either way, once the dust has cleared on this deal, Lisa Marie pockets $50 million, erases her debt, keeps the house, and becomes a large shareholder in a company destined to succeed with the world’s number one entertainment image in the growing industry of celebrity licensing. In her press release Lisa Marie Presley’s quote is a big disappointment, making this deal sound like it is in her father’s interest: “My greatest responsibility to my father is to preserve and protect his legacy.”

Au, contraire! This deal is about maximizing Ms. Presley’s financial interests with the prospects that visitations to Graceland may continue to slow down with the aging of the ‘50s generation of rock ‘n roll fans. Maximizing the return on Elvis and his image has been the focus point of Elvis’ career since the Colonel got hold of him, and this deal is no different, albeit a sweet once-in-a lifetime one that the Colonel himself would be proud of. Indeed it is good to be the king(‘s daughter)!

[May]

And yeah we all have right to our opinions and mine is that Elvis legacy is due to elvis no .

Now THAT is very true. Without Elvis's own talent and popularity, no-one would have made any money from Graceland being opened!

[KPM]

I am amazed by this debate-how it became a "for or against Priscilla" I'm not sure?
I want to say that I have never, "never" implied that Priscilla is the reason Elvis is still popular.
If anyone wants to backtrack over my posts from the last 5-6 years you can see that I have always maintained that the talent and charisma of Elvis-,the special unique person he was, is the one and only reason he is still popular over 34 years since he died.
But we are not talking in this thread directly about why Elvis is popular, or why he is special we are talking about remarks Priscilla made on Elvis and his legacy.
Does anyone else see it as odd that when she makes what most would consider positive remarks-some still see them in a negative way?
When she makes remarks that border the edge of positive- or are in some way negative-those are seen as near blasphemous?
Elvis is the reason we are here how can anyone suggest otherwise........when we do not see every move, or word spoken by Priscilla as some long ago thought out sinister plot that ended with Elvis dying at an early age and Priscilla becoming the dictator of Graceland.
I am happy Graceland did not go on the auction block, and happy Vernon did not sell the estate for any offer while he was executor (which may or may not have happened-many things make it to the press that is just rumor or even made up)
I am glad I do not have to look back at newreel footage of some auctioneer on the steps of Graceland holding up one of Elvis's guns, or his jeweled cross and saying,
"What are my bids for this item which Elvis actually held in his hands........."
I am glad the story did not end with the gavel slamming down and the words,
"Graceland sold to ****** for a bid of $********"
If you do not want to give any credit of any kind to Priscilla for saving Graceland from that fate fine-but she was one of the executors and she did have a say in what was to be the outcome -that is not rumor, that is not conjecture-it is fact.
We all have opinions on people some we like, some we don't.....but those opinions are not always based on logic or truth-they are swayed by personal perception.........our own inner filters-our own likes and dislikes.
I am not defending Priscilla-I am saying that like everyone else she has good points, and bad points depending on circumstance and situation just like everyone. I think its wrong to paint her black as sin and Elvis white as snow.........her every move is not negative, neither is her every move selfless in nature so I choose to give her (and everyone else) the benefit of the doubt on some things-in other words I do not prejudge what she does before she does it. I think thats a fair honest way to look at any person.

[Tigerman1975]

I am amazed by this debate-how it became a "for or against Priscilla" I'm not sure?
I want to say that I have never, "never" implied that Priscilla is the reason Elvis is still popular.
If anyone wants to backtrack over my posts from the last 5-6 years you can see that I have always maintained that the talent and charisma of Elvis-,the special unique person he was, is the one and only reason he is still popular over 34 years since he died.
But we are not talking in this thread directly about why Elvis is popular, or why he is special we are talking about remarks Priscilla made on Elvis and his legacy.
Does anyone else see it as odd that when she makes what most would consider positive remarks-some still see them in a negative way?
When she makes remarks that border the edge of positive- or are in some way negative-those are seen as near blasphemous?
Elvis is the reason we are here how can anyone suggest otherwise........when we do not see every move, or word spoken by Priscilla as some long ago thought out sinister plot that ended with Elvis dying at an early age and Priscilla becoming the dictator of Graceland.
I am happy Graceland did not go on the auction block, and happy Vernon did not sell the estate for any offer while he was executor (which may or may not have happened-many things make it to the press that is just rumor or even made up)
I am glad I do not have to look back at newreel footage of some auctioneer on the steps of Graceland holding up one of Elvis's guns, or his jeweled cross and saying,
"What are my bids for this item which Elvis actually held in his hands........."
I am glad the story did not end with the gavel slamming down and the words,
"Graceland sold to ****** for a bid of $********"
If you do not want to give any credit of any kind to Priscilla for saving Graceland from that fate fine-but she was one of the executors and she did have a say in what was to be the outcome -that is not rumor, that is not conjecture-it is fact.
We all have opinions on people some we like, some we don't.....but those opinions are not always based on logic or truth-they are swayed by personal perception.........our own inner filters-our own likes and dislikes.
I am not defending Priscilla-I am saying that like everyone else she has good points, and bad points depending on circumstance and situation just like everyone. I think its wrong to paint her black as sin and Elvis white as snow.........her every move is not negative, neither is her every move selfless in nature so I choose to give her (and everyone else) the benefit of the doubt on some things-in other words I do not prejudge what she does before she does it. I think thats a fair honest way to look at any person.


I thought that I was objective about it. I dont believe I said anything overly derogatory about her either. I did however state what I think is the obvious. Just an opinion.

[Vegas69]

Here is articles that speak of Pris gettin paids for Presley name.
http://www.wikinvest.com/...%20Presley%20Transaction

[kathy parkinson]

I am amazed by this debate-how it became a "for or against Priscilla" I'm not sure?
I want to say that I have never, "never" implied that Priscilla is the reason Elvis is still popular.
If anyone wants to backtrack over my posts from the last 5-6 years you can see that I have always maintained that the talent and charisma of Elvis-,the special unique person he was, is the one and only reason he is still popular over 34 years since he died.
But we are not talking in this thread directly about why Elvis is popular, or why he is special we are talking about remarks Priscilla made on Elvis and his legacy.
Does anyone else see it as odd that when she makes what most would consider positive remarks-some still see them in a negative way?
When she makes remarks that border the edge of positive- or are in some way negative-those are seen as near blasphemous?
Elvis is the reason we are here how can anyone suggest otherwise........when we do not see every move, or word spoken by Priscilla as some long ago thought out sinister plot that ended with Elvis dying at an early age and Priscilla becoming the dictator of Graceland.
I am happy Graceland did not go on the auction block, and happy Vernon did not sell the estate for any offer while he was executor (which may or may not have happened-many things make it to the press that is just rumor or even made up)
I am glad I do not have to look back at newreel footage of some auctioneer on the steps of Graceland holding up one of Elvis's guns, or his jeweled cross and saying,
"What are my bids for this item which Elvis actually held in his hands........."
I am glad the story did not end with the gavel slamming down and the words,
"Graceland sold to ****** for a bid of $********"
If you do not want to give any credit of any kind to Priscilla for saving Graceland from that fate fine-but she was one of the executors and she did have a say in what was to be the outcome -that is not rumor, that is not conjecture-it is fact.
We all have opinions on people some we like, some we don't.....but those opinions are not always based on logic or truth-they are swayed by personal perception.........our own inner filters-our own likes and dislikes.
I am not defending Priscilla-I am saying that like everyone else she has good points, and bad points depending on circumstance and situation just like everyone. I think its wrong to paint her black as sin and Elvis white as snow.........her every move is not negative, neither is her every move selfless in nature so I choose to give her (and everyone else) the benefit of the doubt on some things-in other words I do not prejudge what she does before she does it. I think thats a fair honest way to look at any person. KPM You are so right, as i have said before we are all here for Elvis, just enjoy the music he left us,but,as we have seen some people won't let go,and that is sad.

[Vegas69]

I donno see anyonen else lettin go either even when proof in face. But I leave this thread cause some just dunno want to see truth but prefer fantasy. :( I know what is I dunno have blinders on or some delusion. Have fun bein Priss fans. Lookin at all responses people who sayin some dont let go are on this thread post for post.
I sorry I forget to say early that you are welcome Kathy.

[sasha]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/zorahday/scattered/Differences.jpg

[kathy parkinson]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/zorahday/scattered/Differences.jpg Exactly Sasha, i'm going to listen to him now.

[KPM]

Here is articles that speak of Pris gettin paids for Presley name.
http://www.wikinvest.com/...%20Presley%20Transaction
I got a notice on this link Page Not Found??

[debtdbruno]

fantastic posts Ken..................

[KPM]

I thought that I was objective about it. I dont believe I said anything overly derogatory about her either. I did however state what I think is the obvious. Just an opinion.
I was not speaking to anyone in particular my friend-just a general observation about how she is perceived and how that perception "for some" has become the deciding factor in everything she touches, everything she says, everything she does.
If I looked at Elvis and said he was manipulative, possesive, had a horrible hot as a griddle temper, self indulgent, and at times creatively lazy-people would say what kind of Elvis fan are you????? But Elvis "at times" was all those things-they are part of who he was -they do not negate his great fantastic talent or how generous and loving he was.........he had many side, many moods, many traits.
So does everyone including Priscilla.
If you talked to several people who know me-some would give you a glowing description of who I am as they see it,.... but I'm no saint- so others might say "boy this guy can be a pain in the a**" but its all me in one situation or another. Its that way for us all......and IMO if we would all remember that when we think of others.........it might be a good thing for all. IMO

[sasha]

Yep, I thought it was time we all tried to remember that and be thankful.;)


Exactly Sasha, i'm going to listen to him now.



This link didn't work for me either. But evidently it did for some.
http://www.wikinvest.com/...%20Presley%20Transaction

[kathy parkinson]

I got a notice on this link Page Not Found?? It was the same for me too.

[May]

If I looked at Elvis and said he was manipulative, possesive, had a horrible hot as a griddle temper, self indulgent, and at times creatively lazy-people would say what kind of Elvis fan are you????? But Elvis "at times" was all those things-they are part of who he was -they do not negate his great fantastic talent or how generous and loving he was.........he had many side, many moods, many traits.


I agree. Everyone is going to have lots of 'sides' to them and what one person thinks of me (as you, and as everyone) is the complete opposite to what someone else thinks. But I think, by reading others' posts, that Elvis never pretended to be anything other than what he was.

[Tigerman1975]

I was not speaking to anyone in particular my friend-just a general observation about how she is perceived and how that perception "for some" has become the deciding factor in everything she touches, everything she says, everything she does.
If I looked at Elvis and said he was manipulative, possesive, had a horrible hot as a griddle temper, self indulgent, and at times creatively lazy-people would say what kind of Elvis fan are you????? But Elvis "at times" was all those things-they are part of who he was -they do not negate his great fantastic talent or how generous and loving he was.........he had many side, many moods, many traits.
So does everyone including Priscilla.
If you talked to several people who know me-some would give you a glowing description of who I am as they see it,.... but I'm no saint- so others might say "boy this guy can be a pain in the a**" but its all me in one situation or another. Its that way for us all......and IMO if we would all remember that when we think of others.........it might be a good thing for all. IMO

Good point KPM.

[Vegas69]

"Priscilla Presley Transaction

In connection with the acquisition of our 85% interest in the Presley business, we acquired from Priscilla Presley all commercial rights held by Ms. Presley to use the name "Presley" in connection with our use and exploitation of the assets acquired from The Promenade Trust, as well as all of Ms. Presley's rights, if any, to the name Graceland. The purchase price for the rights acquired from Priscilla Presley was $6.5 million, with $3.0 million paid in cash at the closing and $3.5 million paid in the form of an eight year subordinated promissory note. The promissory note bears interest at a rate of 5.385% per year and requires annual payments of $550,000. We have also entered into a new ten year consulting agreement with Ms. Presley pursuant to which she will be paid $560,000 per year in exchange for consulting services."

[sasha]

"Priscilla Presley Transaction

In connection with the acquisition of our 85% interest in the Presley business, we acquired from Priscilla Presley all commercial rights held by Ms. Presley to use the name "Presley" in connection with our use and exploitation of the assets acquired from The Promenade Trust, as well as all of Ms. Presley's rights, if any, to the name Graceland. The purchase price for the rights acquired from Priscilla Presley was $6.5 million, with $3.0 million paid in cash at the closing and $3.5 million paid in the form of an eight year subordinated promissory note. The promissory note bears interest at a rate of 5.385% per year and requires annual payments of $550,000. We have also entered into a new ten year consulting agreement with Ms. Presley pursuant to which she will be paid $560,000 per year in exchange for consulting services."
I'm not going to be-labor the point. It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other. But, I'd say someone got their stories mixed up. Just enjoy Elvis, it matters not who, what, when or where in the long run. Only that Graceland belongs to Lisa and "someone " saved it. Enjoy the man and his music.

[Vegas69]

Yeah but when proof shown you reverse and now dont matter but your prev. posts it matter? I enjoy Elvis very much thats why I dunno understand fascination w/Priss. And no it is not a mix up but story you showed was not complete article, the one above is in depth look at deal for EPE. And one I post was cited many times on aother places on web discussin epe sale and what Priss and Lisa gets.

Here is another article on her salary.
Priscilla Presley gets a raise…
Tuesday, November 9, 2010

We thought we had a pretty good understanding of the basic rules of SEC filings, having done this for close to a decade now. But every now and then, we come across a disclosure that just makes us scratch our heads. Take, for example, the 42% raise that CKX (CKXE) granted to Priscilla Presley back in July. Clearly it wasn’t deemed material since the company decided to wait until the proxy it filed last week to disclose that to investors. Here’s how they disclosed it in the proxy:

On February 7, 2005, EPE and EPE Holding Corporation, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Company, entered into a consulting agreement with Ms. Priscilla Presley securing Ms. Presley’s consulting services in connection with promotion of EPE’s business. Pursuant to the terms of the consulting agreement Ms. Presley was paid $560,000 in 2009. On July 12, 2010, the consulting agreement was amended, effective as of the date of the amendment, to increase Ms. Presley’s annual consulting fee to $800,000. In connection with the execution of this amendment, Ms. Presley received a $250,000 bonus in July 2010...

[Vegas69]

Am done with this topic I shown proof of what I say and some dont want to see it anyways and lots of fans know this woman is professional ex and opportunist who gets much credit for really not doin anythin. Elvis legacy and talent save Elvis and Graceland. If fans no love him Priss could stand on her head and it would no sell tickets. Her own businesss no do well by any means as when she attaches elvis name to it.

[sasha]

I'm really not interested in this kind of thing. It has to do with Corp. Meetings and Directors etc. I've always found this stuff boring. But, have fun for anyone that wants to wade through all of it. I found enough. Back to Elvis.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/793044/000095012310099800/y87440def14a.htm#115



As discussed above, the holder of our Series C Preferred Stock is entitled to elect the Series C Director. Ms. Priscilla Presley currently serves on our board of directors as the Series C Director and the holder of the Series C Preferred Stock has confirmed its election of Ms. Presley to continue to serve as the Series C Director until the next annual meeting of stockholders or earlier removal by the holder of the Series C Preferred Stock in accordance with our Certificate of Incorporation. Ms. Priscilla Presley does not receive any compensation for her service as a member of our board of directors.

http://www.currentfinancenews.com/analysis/priscilla-presley-gets-a-raise%e2%80%a6/


On February 7, 2005, EPE and EPE Holding Corporation, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Company, entered into a consulting agreement with Ms. Priscilla Presley securing Ms. Presley’s consulting services in connection with promotion of EPE’s business. Pursuant to the terms of the consulting agreement Ms. Presley was paid $560,000 in 2009. On July 12, 2010, the consulting agreement was amended, effective as of the date of the amendment, to increase Ms. Presley’s annual consulting fee to $800,000. In connection with the execution of this amendment, Ms. Presley received a $250,000 bonus in July 2010.

http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/officerProfile?symbol=CKXE.O&officerId=606323


Presley, Priscilla
Brief Biography
Mr. Priscilla Presley is Director of CKX Inc. He was appointed to the company's board of directors by the holder of the company's Series C Convertible Preferred Stock on February 8, 2005. Ms. Presley has been a director of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc. since November 2000. From 1981 to 1998, Ms. Presley served as Chairperson of Elvis Presley Enterprises, Inc. In 2006, Ms. Presley launched a collection of luxury bed linens called “The Priscilla Presley Collection.” Ms. Presley is currently working in an executive producer capacity on a remake of the Peter Sellers film, “The Party,” with Darren Star and Dreamworks and is developing a play based on her life story.




Basic Compensation
Name Fiscal Year Total
Ferrel, Michael 784,000
Benson, Thomas 1,101,350
Fox, Kraig --
Tytel, Howard 1,146,270
Presley, Priscilla --
Langer, Jack --


http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/officerProfile?symbol=CKXE.O&officerId=606323


Presley, Priscilla
Brief Biography
Mr. Priscilla Presley is Director of CKX Inc. He was appointed to the company's board of directors by the holder of the company's Series C Convertible Preferred Stock on February 8, 2005. Ms. Presley has been a director of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc. since November 2000. From 1981 to 1998, Ms. Presley served as Chairperson of Elvis Presley Enterprises, Inc. In 2006, Ms. Presley launched a collection of luxury bed linens called “The Priscilla Presley Collection.” Ms. Presley is currently working in an executive producer capacity on a remake of the Peter Sellers film, “The Party,” with Darren Star and Dreamworks and is developing a play based on her life story.




Basic Compensation
Name Fiscal Year Total
Ferrel, Michael 784,000
Benson, Thomas 1,101,350
Fox, Kraig --
Tytel, Howard 1,146,270
Presley, Priscilla --
Langer, Jack --

http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/companyProfile?symbol=CKXE.O

Presley Business


The Company owns an 85% interest in the entities, which own and/or control the commercial utilization of the name, image and likeness of Elvis Presley, the operation of the Graceland museum, as well as revenue derived from Elvis Presley’s television specials, films and certain of his recorded musical works. The Presley Business consists of two components: intellectual property, including the licensing of the name, image, likeness and trademarks associated with Elvis Presley, as well as other owned and/or controlled intellectual property and the collection of royalties from certain motion pictures, television specials and recorded musical works and music compositions, and second, the operation of the Graceland museum and retail establishments, including Elvis Presley’s Heartbreak Hotel and other real estate assets. The Company owns co-publishing rights to approximately 650 music compositions, most of which were recorded by Elvis Presley. It also owns rights to receive royalties from sales of certain Elvis records.


CKX owns the name, image and likeness of Elvis Presley, as well as trademarks in various names and images associated with Elvis. It licenses to others the right to use this property for merchandising. In addition, the Company enters into licenses for the use of video and audio clips of Elvis from various motion pictures, in which he starred and the television programs which the Company owns. The Company owns the rights to two of Elvis television specials: 68 Special (1968) and Aloha From Hawaii (1973). It own the rights to Elvis by the Presleys (2005), a two-hour documentary and four-hour digital versatile disc (DVD)-based on and including archival footage, home movies and photos, and interviews with Elvis, his friends and relatives, including Lisa Marie Presley and Priscilla Presley.


The Company is entitled to receive, participation royalties in 24 of 31 films Elvis starred. As of December 31, 2009, the Company had 235 licensing agreements. Its licensed products and services (and the corresponding licensees) include greeting cards (American Greetings Corporation); slot machines (IGT); satellite radio (Sirius Satellite Radio, Inc.); limited edition wines (DFV Wines); collectibles (The Bradford Exchange); calendars and stationary (Mead Corporation); Elvis collectible magazines (Deagostini UK Limited); Elvis Limited Edition Collector’s Vault book (Whitman Publishing); lottery games or tickets (MDI), and The Hamilton Ventura Elvis Watch Collection (The Swatch Group).


Graceland Operations


CKX operates Graceland, the 13.5-acre estate that served as the primary residence of Elvis Presley from 1957 until his passing in 1977, under the terms of a 90-year lease with The Promenade Trust, under which 85 years remain. The Company owns worldwide rights, title and interest in and to the name Graceland, which name may be used at additional themed locations, as well as in Memphis, Tennessee. In addition to the mansion, the Graceland operations include access to an automobile museum featuring vehicles owned and used by Elvis, the Sincerely Elvis and Everything Elvis museums. The Company also own and operate retail stores at Graceland offering Elvis Presley-themed merchandise and produce licensed merchandise for visitors to Graceland. Adjacent to the Graceland real property is the Meadow Oaks Apartments, a 270-unit apartment complex that CKX owns and operates as a result of its acquisition of the Presley Business. Adjacent to the mansion, the Company operates Elvis Presley’s Heartbreak Hotel, which is marketed primarily to visitors to Graceland. Elvis Presley’s Heartbreak Hotel is a 128-room boutique hotel. The hotel had an average occupancy rate of approximately 68% during the year ended December 31, 2009. CKX owns and operates the Elvis Presley Website, www.elvis.com. The Website also offers downloads, such as e-cards, games and online tours, as well as direct access to shopelvis.com, the Company’s online store selling Elvis-branded merchandise.


Ali Business


The Ali Business consists of the commercial exploitation of the name, image, likeness and intellectual property of Muhammad Ali, primarily through endorsement and licensing agreements. The primary revenue source comes from licensing Muhammad Ali’s name and likeness for consumer products, commercials and other uses. The Ali Business also generates revenue from sports memorabilia signings performed by Muhammad Ali. The Company operates the Muhammad Ali Website at www.ali.com. The Website includes a history of Muhammad Ali, including biographical information, information about Muhammad Ali’s awards and achievements, and information about Muhammad Ali’s boxing career. The Website also offers access to the Company’s online store selling autographed and licensed products.

» Full Overview of CKXE.O

[Vegas69]

"Priscilla Presley Transaction

In connection with the acquisition of our 85% interest in the Presley business, we acquired from Priscilla Presley all commercial rights held by Ms. Presley to use the name "Presley" in connection with our use and exploitation of the assets acquired from The Promenade Trust, as well as all of Ms. Presley's rights, if any, to the name Graceland. The purchase price for the rights acquired from Priscilla Presley was $6.5 million, with $3.0 million paid in cash at the closing and $3.5 million paid in the form of an eight year subordinated promissory note. The promissory note bears interest at a rate of 5.385% per year and requires annual payments of $550,000. We have also entered into a new ten year consulting agreement with Ms. Presley pursuant to which she will be paid $560,000 per year in exchange for consulting services."

[May]

"Priscilla Presley Transaction

In connection with the acquisition of our 85% interest in the Presley business, we acquired from Priscilla Presley all commercial rights held by Ms. Presley to use the name "Presley" in connection with our use and exploitation of the assets acquired from The Promenade Trust, as well as all of Ms. Presley's rights, if any, to the name Graceland. The purchase price for the rights acquired from Priscilla Presley was $6.5 million, with $3.0 million paid in cash at the closing and $3.5 million paid in the form of an eight year subordinated promissory note. The promissory note bears interest at a rate of 5.385% per year and requires annual payments of $550,000. We have also entered into a new ten year consulting agreement with Ms. Presley pursuant to which she will be paid $560,000 per year in exchange for consulting services."

Wow.:greedy: That's a lot of dosh!!
Where did you get this from vegas69 ?

[sasha]

:lol: Vegas 69:
Nothing I posted was meant in answer to you . I was just posting a few links for anyone interested in all that stuff. Personally, I'm not. But, some of it was interesting. Looked like Mr Sillerman and Simon Fuller are the main ones benefiting from all that. Those kind of pay checks are way out side of my pocket.

I don't care either way how you feel about Priscilla. Fact is; she never owned the Presley name to give to anyone. I see other places everyone's mad at Lisa for all this. I don't care, as long as Elvis gets his recoginition. One thing I agree with you. IF it hadn't of been for Elvis making the music and doing all those movies; none of them would have benefited . Just hate to see anyone spoil their enjoyment of Elvis and his music to worry about things way beyond our control. Have fun and enjoy what he left us.

[Diane]

:lol: Vegas 69:
Nothing I posted was meant in answer to you . I was just posting a few links for anyone interested in all that stuff. Personally, I'm not. But, some of it was interesting. Looked like Mr Sillerman and Simon Fuller are the main ones benefiting from all that. Those kind of pay checks are way out side of my pocket.

I don't care either way how you feel about Priscilla. Fact is; she never owned the Presley name to give to anyone. I see other places everyone's mad at Lisa for all this. I don't care, as long as Elvis gets his recoginition. One thing I agree with you. IF it hadn't of been for Elvis making the music and doing all those movies; none of them would have benefited . Just hate to see anyone spoil their enjoyment of Elvis and his music to worry about things way beyond our control. Have fun and enjoy what he left us.

Great post!

[debtdbruno]

I bet Elvis would be blown away to see the magnitude and scale of the business side of his 'name, likeness and image'..............quite staggering!!!

[KPM]

"Priscilla Presley Transaction

In connection with the acquisition of our 85% interest in the Presley business, we acquired from Priscilla Presley all commercial rights held by Ms. Presley to use the name "Presley" in connection with our use and exploitation of the assets acquired from The Promenade Trust, as well as all of Ms. Presley's rights, if any, to the name Graceland. The purchase price for the rights acquired from Priscilla Presley was $6.5 million, with $3.0 million paid in cash at the closing and $3.5 million paid in the form of an eight year subordinated promissory note. The promissory note bears interest at a rate of 5.385% per year and requires annual payments of $550,000. We have also entered into a new ten year consulting agreement with Ms. Presley pursuant to which she will be paid $560,000 per year in exchange for consulting services."
Having looked for this and not found it-could you provide the link to view it in total with all other info at the link?
I did find this which is not quite what you posted, I tried to find the Management's Discussion and Analysis......in which more info is apparently at-but cound not find it.:
Priscilla Presley Transaction

Our acquisition of certain rights from Priscilla Presley of all commercial rights held by Ms. Presley to use the name "Presley" in connection with our use and exploitation of the assets acquired from The Promenade Trust is described elsewhere in this prospectus under the heading "Management's Discussion and Analysis of Financial Condition and Results of Operations–Pro Forma Consolidated Liquidity and Capital Resources–Sources of Liquidity–Priscilla Presley Transaction."


I will state again that after Elvis died-she was obviously not bound by the divorce decree in regards to her using the name Presley or she would not have been able to do so.
If the divorce was never finalized before Elvis died (which she has claimed)..... that also may be away around the decrees specitfics.
IMO its a mountain out of a mole hill to speculate how she got use of the name-its obviously done in legal fashion or she could not have used it-it seems logical.

[Vegas69]

I gave you guys link and you said didn works for you. :( My point Sasha not hers to sells yet did right htere off CKX info.

[sasha]

I gave you guys link and you said didn works for you. :( My point Sasha not hers to sells yet did right htere off CKX info. I think it was poorly worded ,maybe ? According to all legal papers I've found; everything pertaining to Elvis was inherited by Lisa. It's true Priscilla acted for a time as Lisa's guardian. But, it would have taken all 3 Executors to do anything pertaining to Graceland and EPE. After Lisa took over, I've no idea how she set it up. She might have given her mother the right to sign some papers ,etc. Elvis gave Power of Attorney to his dad, Vernon. And Vernon could sign Elvis' name. I'm not sure where Lisa might have been when all the paper work took place. But according to all legal papers, it was all Lisas.It was Lisa that got the millions of dollars -- to pay off debts ,etc. of EPE/Graceland. That's in some of that legal paper work too. I wouldn't worry about it.

[Vegas69]

I'm not worried bout it, I just show when ask where Pris was paid and that come from CKX. By time Lisa got her stuff there wer no 3 execetors only Pris cause the bank guy retires. Says right there Pris paid for the use of Presley name. Simple.
Am done with this topic no matter what shown some dont believe or spin. My opinion of Prisss Beaulieu stayin same as when I original answer in this thread now I walkin away.

[KPM]

Lisa inherited everything pertaining to her father, there is not ifs ands or buts to it-Lisa owned the rights to the name Elvis Presley.
Lisa decided not to take over the estate when she hit the age "specified in Elvis's will" and she had lawyers begin a new agreement which was her right-Lisa could do whatever she wanted-Elvis was dead and his original will had been carried out "to the letter" to Lisa's legal age in his will..... after this point that will no longer applied because Lisa was in charge of "her inheritance".
If Lisa gave Priscilla legal rights of any kind in her new agreement for the running of the estate-that was her right as the sole heir of her fathers estate and it did not contradict her fathers will-nor the divorce decree legally.
Lisa had the right (just like all in a free society) to conduct her affairs after the her fathers wills requirements had been met-without any doubt those were met.
Someone had originally asked why Priscilla could use the Presley name after the divorce decree barred her from doing so-I think I answered that several times..........................nothing illegal was done. That is my point. Lisa (who should have more to say than anyone) liked what had been done or she would not have left her mom in charge-that was her right-it was her inheritance.
I once again say Priscilla did not years ago plot this all out, she did not somehow know in advance Elvis would die young and Vernon a few years later and that she would be one of 3 to run the estate....life happens.....death happens unexpectidly......it was not a fiendish plot to steal the estate.......
I have never tried to change anyones mind about Priscilla, or Lisa or anyone else-but I have tried to point out that to paint "ANYONE" all bad, or all good is just not fair nor realistic. (Unless you talk Hitler, Manson, Hussein. etc....)

[kathy parkinson]

Well reported, let's hope this is now put to rest.

[May]

Lisa inherited everything pertaining to her father, there is not ifs ands or buts to it-Lisa owned the rights to the name Elvis Presley.
Lisa decided not to take over the estate when she hit the age "specified in Elvis's will" and she had lawyers begin a new agreement which was her right-Lisa could do whatever she wanted-Elvis was dead and his original will had been carried out "to the letter" to Lisa's legal age in his will..... after this point that will no longer applied because Lisa was in charge of "her inheritance".
If Lisa gave Priscilla legal rights of any kind in her new agreement for the running of the estate-that was her right as the sole heir of her fathers estate and it did not contradict her fathers will-nor the divorce decree legally.
Lisa had the right (just like all in a free society) to conduct her affairs after the her fathers wills requirements had been met-without any doubt those were met.
Someone had originally asked why Priscilla could use the Presley name after the divorce decree barred her from doing so-I think I answered that several times..........................nothing illegal was done. That is my point. Lisa (who should have more to say than anyone) liked what had been done or she would not have left her mom in charge-that was her right-it was her inheritance.
I once again say Priscilla did not years ago plot this all out, she did not somehow know in advance Elvis would die young and Vernon a few years later and that she would be one of 3 to run the estate....life happens.....death happens unexpectidly......it was not a fiendish plot to steal the estate.......
I have never tried to change anyones mind about Priscilla, or Lisa or anyone else-but I have tried to point out that to paint "ANYONE" all bad, or all good is just not fair nor realistic. (Unless you talk Hitler, Manson, Hussein. etc....)

I see your point(s)
But people feel the way they feel. If they want to believe what they believe, that's it. Everyone can think what they like. There are a lot of opinions out there.

[KPM]

I see your point(s)
But people feel the way they feel. If they want to believe what they believe, that's it. Everyone can think what they like. There are a lot of opinions out there.
Never said otherwise-would not have it any other way.
But thinking something, does not make it fact, or false......sometimes people do not want to see all sides.....or just shut the other sides out totally with no attempt to see them.....sometimes without realising it. Some may even make up their minds, long before the questions have been raised or asked.............now if someone explores all the sides of a situation as best he can and still has the same opinion-thats fine with me (even when I totally disagree) but if they just make "blanket black and white statements" it bothers me.....so we discuss it. :blush:
I try to be that way on every subject here, at home, at work........and many times you discover that people just do not have all the info, they know their side (or what they have perceived or assumed) and they really know very little.
I place myself in that group because I can be guilty of it also-on subjects that I think I know and understand-but then someone with real knowledge shows me facts and info I did not have-and I am enlighted and better for it.
I think thats a good thing, to learn....to find out all sides..............what each individual does with new knowledge is up to them.
They can embrace it -or bury it with a casual, "NO WAY"

[kathy parkinson]

I agree with both of you, like i said many comments ago even with legal proof papers being shown, people will still believe what they want to. I am now going to have an Elvis evening listening to some great music which is what he was all about.

[dstrattenfan]

Lisa inherited everything pertaining to her father, there is not ifs ands or buts to it-Lisa owned the rights to the name Elvis Presley.
Lisa decided not to take over the estate when she hit the age "specified in Elvis's will" and she had lawyers begin a new agreement which was her right-Lisa could do whatever she wanted-Elvis was dead and his original will had been carried out "to the letter" to Lisa's legal age in his will..... after this point that will no longer applied because Lisa was in charge of "her inheritance".
If Lisa gave Priscilla legal rights of any kind in her new agreement for the running of the estate-that was her right as the sole heir of her fathers estate and it did not contradict her fathers will-nor the divorce decree legally.
Lisa had the right (just like all in a free society) to conduct her affairs after the her fathers wills requirements had been met-without any doubt those were met.
Someone had originally asked why Priscilla could use the Presley name after the divorce decree barred her from doing so-I think I answered that several times..........................nothing illegal was done. That is my point. Lisa (who should have more to say than anyone) liked what had been done or she would not have left her mom in charge-that was her right-it was her inheritance.
I once again say Priscilla did not years ago plot this all out, she did not somehow know in advance Elvis would die young and Vernon a few years later and that she would be one of 3 to run the estate....life happens.....death happens unexpectidly......it was not a fiendish plot to steal the estate.......
I have never tried to change anyones mind about Priscilla, or Lisa or anyone else-but I have tried to point out that to paint "ANYONE" all bad, or all good is just not fair nor realistic. (Unless you talk Hitler, Manson, Hussein. etc....)

I forget where I read it but the story basically said that at one point Lisa wanted to gain control of the estate and somehow Pris had stopped her...It also stated that Lisa and Pris dont get a long well either but of course a rumor is a rumor is a rumor so who knows...:blink:

[May]

I forget where I read it but the story basically said that at one point Lisa wanted to gain control of the estate and somehow Pris had stopped her...It also stated that Lisa and Pris dont get a long well either but of course a rumor is a rumor is a rumor so who knows...:blink:

I remember when they were both in an interview together and they basically said the same thing, about not getting on. I think Lisa said it was only in the past couple of years they really understood each other. And this was quite a recent interview. Mind you, I dont imagine they are that close considering Lisa moved to a different country.

[dstrattenfan]

I remember when they were both in an interview together and they basically said the same thing, about not getting on. I think Lisa said it was only in the past couple of years they really understood each other. And this was quite a recent interview. Mind you, I dont imagine they are that close considering Lisa moved to a different country.
Pris is very cold Elvis said that a few times according to what I have always read so I doubt that she would be any different w/ her child.

[Diane]

I remember when they were both in an interview together and they basically said the same thing, about not getting on. I think Lisa said it was only in the past couple of years they really understood each other. And this was quite a recent interview. Mind you, I dont imagine they are that close considering Lisa moved to a different country.

I saw that same interview. I wondered about why Lisa chose to live so far from her family. What I can't understand is why she moved so far away from Riley and Ben. The three of them did seem very close. Maybe they visit a lot.

[sasha]

I always saw Lisa as being an angry, rebellious child and was concerned about her. She admits she was.
I didn't always get along with my mother and now; sometimes my daughter and I clash. I've learned to accept it as part of "growing up" and finding out who you are. I think I'd have been angry at everything and everyone too, had I been pestered and my family talked about as much as hers was.


Presley admits she is still learning which roads to travel herself. "I'm working hard right now on not being angry. I was chronically angry for a year and a half. I'm much better now."

Part of her fury came from the discovery that her intimate staff, people she'd employed for 15 years who were "like family, really," had been bleeding her accounts of millions in cash.

"You'd think I would have known better because of my father, right?" she says drily. "It was my ****ing fault. I didn't want to deal with the business. My father was like that.



http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/the_presley_women.shtml
However, the Presleys initially resisted opening Graceland to the public. 'It took a long time to decide after he passed away', Priscilla says. But there weren't really enough finances there to keep it going. We had a staff that was with us for years and years and years, and we had to let everyone go. It was a shock. We had estate taxes coming in, we had government taxes. Again, it wasn't an overnight decision'.


Priscilla Presley, Lisa Marie Presley

However, rumors have spread recently that the Presley family sold Graceland. Priscilla dismissed them simply, saying, 'No, it is not sold'. The confusion, she says, stems from a recent licensing deal. 'We were looking for years for a strategic partner to help us grow', Priscilla explains. 'We've been open for 25 years now. We're a private company, and we thought, 'Gosh, we'd like to be able to reach those people who can't afford to come to Graceland. We have fans all over the world. So we found this particular partner who was on the same page as we were and basically took the licensing, and that is really what was taken'.

'See, they're two different things', Lisa Marie explains. 'There's the Elvis Presley Estate, which [are] the things in the house and all of his stuff, which will never be touched. [We sold] 85 percent of the licensing and marketing - we still own 15 percent. But everything [in Graceland] is still ours. It will never be touched. A lot of that money went back into the forming of a bigger company, which is going to expand it and make it even bigger and make it go places it hasn't been able to go'.

Although they are close now, Priscilla and Lisa Marie say it's only been in the last few years that they have been really able to bond.

Lisa Marie: I think it was just - we're so the opposite of each other, if you haven't noticed already. My demeanor immediately went into [that of] a 15 year old when she walked out here! I think it was just that she's got a china shop and I'm the bull that comes in. I mean, I'm more abrasive. She's very poised, which is great. And I'm the way I am. And I think that that just couldn't find a way to blend.

Oprah: How do you explain it, Priscilla?

Priscilla: I've probably been the force in her life that put discipline on her, which she needs, excuse me. And I think that's a good thing. I hope that it's a good thing! You know, I'm honest with her. In this business you find very few people who are honest; who will tell you the truth. And I think I'm that sounding board for her even though she does her own thing and always has done her own thing. So I'm the one person that has really been the one with the discipline and she probably [resented that.]

[Diane]

There's discipline but you have to temper it with affection and lots of love. Cuddling your child and spending quality time with him/her is every bit and just as important. I don't think Lisa got much of that and that would certainly cause resentment and a rift between them. Lisa was a better mother in that way and is with her twins.

[KPM]

I forget where I read it but the story basically said that at one point Lisa wanted to gain control of the estate and somehow Pris had stopped her...It also stated that Lisa and Pris dont get a long well either but of course a rumor is a rumor is a rumor so who knows...:blink:
Well Lisa just could not gain control of her estate until the age Elvis had in his will-and when that age came around-Lisa decided she did not want to be in charge at that point. If she later changed her mind I have no knowledge of that. LIsa and her mom have both admitted that they did not see eye to eye way back to her early teens-but they get along much better since Lisa has grown older according to them both.
Mothers and daughters, fathers and sons all go thru a difficult stage of adjustment in the teenage years rebellion against what each stands for, rebellion against rules, regulations etc....

[sasha]

There's discipline but you have to temper it with affection and lots of love. Cuddling your child and spending quality time with him/her is every bit and just as important. I don't think Lisa got much of that and that would certainly cause resentment and a rift between them. Lisa was a better mother in that way and is with her twins.
I used to think the same thing-- until I started having trouble with my own .I've since decided we can never know what goes on in other peoples lives, unless you're there.So, I give them both a pass and congratulations on being able to get along now. ;)

[sasha]

Mothers and daughters, fathers and sons all go thru a difficult stage of adjustment in the teenage years rebellion against what each stands for, rebellion against rules, regulations etc....

Amen !! I even remember I did the same thing. ;)

[Diane]

There's always friction between parents and teenagers...that's natural but you usually get past it if the love is there. I don't doubt that Lisa was a difficult child. Elvis spoiled her too much and Priscilla took on the role of disciplinarian which in that case she had to but I feel she was too involved with herself to see what was happening with Lisa and hadn't taken the time to let her know she was loved by her as well. True, I wasn't there to see that but to me it showed in both of them. It isn't really all that hard to read people's faces and body language if you really look at them (with an open mind). I don't claim to be an expert at it but I've been right too many times and feel people should pay attention more to others instead of just halfway listening, looking and taking others words for what went on.

By the way I didn't come to the conclusion I have about Priscilla from the first. I liked her in the beginning. I thought she was cute and that she and Elvis made a beautiful couple. I was kind of stupidly flattered that he picked some one of my physical type and had a french name and was catholic. Silly I know but I was young then too. I stared losing respect for her after seeing her speak on TV for years and of course, reading her book. Sorry, but I can't see that she has a natural bone in her body but If someone else likes her that's all well and good and everyone has a right to their own opinion....including me.

[sasha]

Diane: It was the "mothering role" that irritated me about Priscilla. I really never paid much attention to her .
Yes, I read her book too and that didn't help. But, I don't know their circumstaces , then or now. I only know that Lisa admits she was a "hand-full" to say it nicely. ;) I've had quite a few problems with my youngest daughter, so I can relate some.

[Diane]

Diane: It was the "mothering role" that irritated me about Priscilla. I really never paid much attention to her .
Yes, I read her book too and that didn't help. But, I don't know their circumstaces , then or now. I only know that Lisa admits she was a "hand-full" to say it nicely. ;) I've had quite a few problems with my youngest daughter, so I can relate some.

Yes I see what you mean about her parenting Sasha and I agree. It was a big part for me too, probably the biggest. I also read that Lisa admitted she was a hand full and I believe her. Photos played a little part in it for me as well....Priscilla's constant posing, trying so hard for attention to herself and never seeming to just be natural and play with the others. She always seemed to stay apart from the rest. So many things Sasha that make me feel the way I do.

We had some tricky problems with our two kids too. I don't know one single parent who hasn't but we lucked out. No drugs, no alcohol except each child tried one drug one time. One tried pot, didn't see the point of it, the other tried speed and it scared that one to death and that was that. But we did have arguments and fears that something they did was going to turn them the wrong way like any other parent.

There are times when parents who have done all they can still lose their children to circumstances beyond their control and those my heart really aches for as I can imagine how they must feel.

[May]

There's always friction between parents and teenagers...that's natural but you usually get past it if the love is there. I don't doubt that Lisa was a difficult child. Elvis spoiled her too much and Priscilla took on the role of disciplinarian which in that case she had to but I feel she was too involved with herself to see what was happening with Lisa and hadn't taken the time to let her know she was loved by her as well. True, I wasn't there to see that but to me it showed in both of them. It isn't really all that hard to read people's faces and body language if you really look at them (with an open mind). I don't claim to be an expert at it but I've been right too many times and feel people should pay attention more to others instead of just halfway listening, looking and taking others words for what went on.

By the way I didn't come to the conclusion I have about Priscilla from the first. I liked her in the beginning. I thought she was cute and that she and Elvis made a beautiful couple. I was kind of stupidly flattered that he picked some one of my physical type and had a french name and was catholic. Silly I know but I was young then too. I stared losing respect for her after seeing her speak on TV for years and of course, reading her book. Sorry, but I can't see that she has a natural bone in her body but If someone else likes her that's all well and good and everyone has a right to their own opinion....including me.

Terrific post Diane. I do agree.

[sasha]

Yes I see what you mean about her parenting Sasha and I agree. It was a big part for me too, probably the biggest. I also read that Lisa admitted she was a hand full and I believe her. Photos played a little part in it for me as well....Priscilla's constant posing, trying so hard for attention to herself and never seeming to just be natural and play with the others. She always seemed to stay apart from the rest. So many things Sasha that make me feel the way I do.

We had some tricky problems with our two kids too. I don't know one single parent who hasn't but we lucked out. No drugs, no alcohol except each child tried one drug one time. One tried pot, didn't see the point of it, the other tried speed and it scared that one to death and that was that. But we did have arguments and fears that something they did was going to turn them the wrong way like any other parent.

There are times when parents who have done all they can still lose their children to circumstances beyond their control and those my heart really aches for as I can imagine how they must feel.

I never paid much attention to Priscilla. Except to acknowlege her part in helping keep Graceland for fans. I buy very little from there ,so what they sold or charged for things never bothered me either. If it does, I complain to EPE {whoever owned it} .

Kids ,on the other hand have always held a high place in my thoughts and actions. Since I'm divorced, I can appreciate some things as far as raising kids on your own {mostly} . I think most of our troubles came from ex- interference . But, I can also say I wouldn't have liked living the life the Presley's led either . :)

[Diane]

I wouldn't have cared for the Presley life either. I'm not totally a hermit but still I like my privacy.

[scarlet_nell]

You know, I don't care for Cilla too much. She has gotten rich off of his name and people call her his widow even though they had been divorced for 4 years BUT, had it not been for her, we would not be able to see Graceland so I do thank her for that. And why all this negativity? Let's just enjoy the king. He is the reason we are not, not cilla.

[dstrattenfan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lO8rfcvdI4

Teddy dearest this is for u!!!!!! She was easily one of the most beautiful women on the face of the earth

[May]

She was, yes. She should have left her face alone. :(

[dstrattenfan]

She was, yes. She should have left her face alone. :(
I agree(y) vanity is an ugly thing no pun intended

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

For me Its what Priscilla has written and spoken about that has colored my opinion of her, she is a master manipulator and plays a well rehearsed game. You only have to watch Elvis By The Presley's to see how Priscilla feels the need to show the darker side of Elvis without ever sharing the blame.

We all know Elvis wasn't an angel but by god it takes two in every partnership to have a row. Priscilla has and always will choose her audience and what she will say to get the best reflection for herself. Sometimes she will praise Elvis to the skies, when she feels insecure, she puts the boot in.

The thing to remember is this, she is human and was married to Elvis, she is not strictly a fan so her living and dealing with Elvis and a lifetime of living in his shadow color her opinions of Elvis.

[May]

Great post!

[dstrattenfan]

For me Its what Priscilla has written and spoken about that has colored my opinion of her, she is a master manipulator and plays a well rehearsed game. You only have to watch Elvis By The Presley's to see how Priscilla feels the need to show the darker side of Elvis without ever sharing the blame.

We all know Elvis wasn't an angel but by god it takes two in every partnership to have a row. Priscilla has and always will choose her audience and what she will say to get the best reflection for herself. Sometimes she will praise Elvis to the skies, when she feels insecure, she puts the boot in.

The thing to remember is this, she is human and was married to Elvis, she is not strictly a fan so her living and dealing with Elvis and a lifetime of living in his shadow color her opinions of Elvis.
TOTALLY!!!!!

IMO she wants to follow in his shadow, she didn't use Presley after the divorce but then when she started acting and opening Graceland BOOM right back to Presley she went bc she & her agent or whoever said hey u might wanna use the Presley name to get ur foot in the door which it did....Who knows I may have done that as well doubtful but......I just dont like that she played victim and didn't tell the truth and when confronted she says "O I never said ______that...OK fine "technically" she didn't say he raped her, "technically" she didn't say she was a virgin blah blah blah she is a fraud a lie is a lie...She is cold and calculating there is always a motive w/ her and that motive is herself...

Yes I dislike her but I dont want to see harm come to her either.... I never joke about her face bc thats not funny nor cute it so sad :'( and regardless of her reasons for opening Graceland to the public at least we fans can see what life was like for Elvis and I'm grateful for that

[Tigerman1975]

TOTALLY!!!!!

IMO she wants to follow in his shadow, she didn't use Presley after the divorce but then when she started acting and opening Graceland BOOM right back to Presley she went bc she & her agent or whoever said hey u might wanna use the Presley name to get ur foot in the door which it did....Who knows I may have done that as well doubtful but......I just dont like that she played victim and didn't tell the truth and when confronted she says "O I never said ______that...OK fine "technically" she didn't say he raped her, "technically" she didn't say she was a virgin blah blah blah she is a fraud a lie is a lie...She is cold and calculating there is always a motive w/ her and that motive is herself...

Yes I dislike her but I dont want to see harm come to her either.... I never joke about her face bc thats not funny nor cute it so sad :'( and regardless of her reasons for opening Graceland to the public at least we fans can see what life was like for Elvis and I'm grateful for that

Well said dstrattenfan!

[sasha]

I honestly can't say I paid much attention to Priscilla. Except to be thankful she and two others made it possible to keep Graceland. Not just for Lisa, but it was important to all Elvis' fans. Only until I looked into all the business of EPE did I realize how much she did regarding that. In looking closer at her as a person-- I have to say; I think Priscilla is not comfortable in crowds and with all the fuss. {I know some think different} I know I wouldn't have liked to be responsible for everything she had to do to help keep Elvis' name and music out here for all these years. I don't think I would do it.
I'd like to know just where anyone got the idea she couldn't use the Presley name though. {I mean legally} In all I've seen. nowhere does it say anything like that.The only place I've seen that mentioned is from some of his "friends." This is not meant as an arguement or a "debate," I'm serious in that I'd like to see some proof of this "name thing." The more something is repeated, the more people come to believe it.

[KPM]

For me Its what Priscilla has written and spoken about that has colored my opinion of her, she is a master manipulator and plays a well rehearsed game. You only have to watch Elvis By The Presley's to see how Priscilla feels the need to show the darker side of Elvis without ever sharing the blame.

We all know Elvis wasn't an angel but by god it takes two in every partnership to have a row. Priscilla has and always will choose her audience and what she will say to get the best reflection for herself. Sometimes she will praise Elvis to the skies, when she feels insecure, she puts the boot in.

The thing to remember is this, she is human and was married to Elvis, she is not strictly a fan so her living and dealing with Elvis and a lifetime of living in his shadow color her opinions of Elvis.
Good point-she is like everyone who has been in love and divorced-deep down inside they usually have an ax to grind....and that creeps into everything knowingly or unknowingly.
She had to have known Elvis A. Presley 1000 times better than the best read and researched fan here.......or anywhere on earth.
She saw his smile, his love-his anger his tantrums, his generosity, his kindness, his violent temper and his roving eye:blush: up close and extremely personal. She knew him well beyond we fans...she felt that anger and also that smile.
That does have a way of shading your thoughts, motives, actions.....both ways.
But lets also remember if she totally pretended that Elvis was a saint and did no wrong many fans would fault her for that saying she is whitewashing Elvis and his image...like some do because she and EPE will not release EIC to video.
Its a fine line to walk and I'm glad its not me walking it. IMO

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I agree with you Ken, there is a very fine line to walk and she is ****ed if she does and ****ed if she doesn't! What make me uncomfortable about Priscilla is how she can be so flippant in her views. She is purposefully vague in her accusations which leave interpretations that are grey at best. She doesn't always correct innuendo and skewers opinion to her favor.

Priscilla is careful not to damage the product that makes the money.... but can let Elvis the personality take a knock.

[Vegas69]

Jumpsuit have to tells you that I really agree with all you say. What you say is same reason I dont like her no more. She is always victim never takin personal response on herselfs actions. No Elvis not perfect no body is but she makes sound like she was guiltless and she made some accusations she later said she did no make.
I ask my friend about the name thing and he said long long time agos in the mid 90s up to 2000 was website with lots of Elvis legal papers, like deed to Graceland, Graceland floorplan and divorce decree 12 page I think he say of what settlement was and this no original this second divorce decree when she accuse Elvis of fraud even though by all who know say he aske her if 100,000 was ok and she agree so to accuse of fraud, but anyway, so in the second one in order to get joint custody of Lisa Elvis put in there, what you call it a clause? that she no can use the Presley name for business purpose that is why when she open Bis and Beau she had to goes with her maiden name and why she use it alll way up to his death,t hen went Beaulieu Presley. He say that clause was either page 10 or 11 of divorce from Oct. 1973 no prior one. Sad the website was taken down he not sure but thinks EPE cause of all legal papers had it shut down.

[Donut]

That's been her game since Elvis died, and it has worked for her quite well. All the mistakes she's made in her life are always anyone else's fault and the decisions she's made in connection to Elvis she has felt "forced" to make them. She can't never take reponsability for anything, it would make her look bad and that's always been her main concern IMO, not Elvis.

The way I see it after hearing her stories all these years is that she (rightly or wrongly) was and is really bitter towards Elvis for the way he supposedly treated her during their relationship and for "forcing" her to want a divorce. But she was so used to her affluent lifestyle that once the goose that laid the golden eggs died she needed to keep the money making machine going somehow, so she swallowed her pride and started to play the grieving widow and mother courage.

Nowhere in Elvis will is stipulated that Graceland had to be kept in Lisa's hands for life, or that it should be open for tours, but let's get real, selling it and investing the money anywhere else was more risky than allowing the fans that already visited it just to see Elvis grave pay for touring the house. If this didn't work they could always sell it as a last option.

All in all, I really believe Elvis is and has been for many years just a commodity for her. The time when her daughter was a minor and couldn't be in charge of her father's estate has long passed. She has no obligation of attending Elvis events or speaking on his behalf, but the truth is she is really well paid for it, and I doubt the other two executors of Elvis estate made the amount of money she's made for their work.
Gee! she can't even sell her jewelry line without mentioning that they are inspired on the jewells Elvis bought for her! It's been a continuos milking the cow for many, many years already, there's no ifs or buts in this story anymore. She's portrayed herself with her actions and since it seems she enjoys the spotlight too much to stop and make a dignified retreat the Elvis fans with opposite morals and principles to hers have a right voice their opinion.

Like Forrest Gump said, that's all I have to say about that ;):lol:

[Vegas69]

That's been her game since Elvis died, and it has worked for her quite well. All the mistakes she's made in her life are always anyone else's fault and the decisions she's made in connection to Elvis she has felt "forced" to make them. She can't never take reponsability for anything, it would make her look bad and that's always been her main concern IMO, not Elvis.

The way I see it after hearing her stories all these years is that she (rightly or wrongly) was and is really bitter towards Elvis for the way he supposedly treated her during their relationship and for "forcing" her to want a divorce. But she was so used to her affluent lifestyle that once the goose that laid the golden eggs died she needed to keep the money making machine going somehow, so she swallowed her pride and started to play the grieving widow and mother courage.

Nowhere in Elvis will is stipulated that Graceland had to be kept in Lisa's hands for life, or that it should be open for tours, but let's get real, selling it and investing the money anywhere else was more risky than allowing the fans that already visited it just to see Elvis grave pay for touring the house. If this didn't work they could always sell it as a last option.

All in all, I really believe Elvis is and has been for many years just a commodity for her. The time when her daughter was a minor and couldn't be in charge of her father's estate has long passed. She has no obligation of attending Elvis events or speaking on his behalf, but the truth is she is really well paid for it, and I doubt the other two executors of Elvis estate made the amount of money she's made for their work.
Gee! she can't even sell her jewelry line without mentioning that they are inspired on the jewells Elvis bought for her! It's been a continuos milking the cow for many, many years already, there's no ifs or buts in this story anymore. She's portrayed herself with her actions and since it seems she enjoys the spotlight too much to stop and make a dignified retreat the Elvis fans with opposite morals and principles to hers have a right voice their opinion.

Like Forrest Gump said, that's all I have to say about that ;):lol:

Oh jee wow. That so well thoughts and said. I cant help it but so nod and agree with you all you say. Thank you. :)