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vivaelvis
05-09-2010, 11:03 AM
There seems to be alot of misconceptions, confusion, and assuming going on in the world of Elvis concerning the latest news on Robert FX Sillerman's resignation as CEO from CKX. Here's the reasons behind his decision. Back in 2005 when Sillerman took over as CEO of CKX he began to build on that small company by adding investments of interests such as EPE, Graceland operations, the Mohammed Ali estate, the hit tv show American idol, and then music division 19 Entertainment. He assumed that adding those entertainment investments would benefit the comapny's longevity and the value would bring outside interests in selling it to take it private. Unfortunately the stock never reached as high as they thought and even with Elvis, Ali and Idol it wasn't attractive enough as they had previously envisioned to sell it and because of that no interest came a calling. Then came the perfect economical storm, if you're a fortune 500 investor as Sillerman is. Once banks shut it's doors on those companies it forced a dominos effect that wiped out business after business on wall street and forced some into forclosure. The banks not loaning money is what killed the dream Elvis resort in Las Vegas. Delayed the grand plans for Graceland, and caused a royal style resort in the Carribeans to come to a hault during construstion in which Sillerman lost $180 million of his own money out of his own pocket and won't get it back. Now that resort, hotel and golf course lies unfinished and may never be.

One of Sillerman's biggest investments was 'American Idol'. But in the past 3 seasons it's ratings and populairty has slowly decreased despite topping all tv ratings for the nights it runs. But If 'Idol' doesn't start finding real talent soon like they have from Season 1 through 5 then they won't survive till their contract with Fox runs out in 2015. This past week saw idol's rating drop due to lack of interest in the final remaining contestants. The biggest week was Elvis Week with over 39 million votes registered. From what's been said, it appears that Robert Sillerman sees this and wants to part ways with 'Idol' and possibly '19 Entertainment' to save CKX from falling under the $4.00 a share mark that would cause default. His plan has been adn still is to take the company private. Quite possibly now as just an estate company only. He already has Elvis and Ali and has gone on record to say that he would like to add The Beatles, Marilyn Monroe, James Dean and a few other dead celebrities that have longevity and can be marketed. But the owner of Dean and Monroe and have said, not interested. The Beatles catalog is in the hands of the Jackson estate and McCartney is trying like crazy to get it back.

If Sillerman is able to buy and take over CKX it'll only benefit what he plans to do with Graceland. Him stepping down only makes that option more possible. He had to do that in order to make a bid for CKX. 'One Equity Partners', the company that's interested in buying CKX, is still in negotiations and a deal isn't far from being reached, according to insiders close to the situation. Apparently Sillerman sees that deal unbeneficial to the company and his own personal investments and is the sole reason for him resigning to make a bid of his own. That and the fact that the longer this sale drags out the more danger of CKX falling more in stock value and fear of the company going under, which means worst case scenario, banruptcy and loss of power over Graceland. That's the main purpose for him to take it private.

Some have labeled Robert FX Sillerman as a man out to make a buck and no real love for Elvis. Well, that's partly true and mostly false. Sillerman has been an avid Elvis fan for many years and unlike most of us witnessed Elvis on stage, at Madison Square Garden at that, which was one of the most historical moments in Elvis' career. He didn't go into this deal thinking of selling EPE within a 10 year's time. He signed a 99-year lease to have sole rights to the name, likenss and image of Elvis Presley. Besides the financial side, it was and still is his largest private investment that he's ever made with a company. He paid $115 million for EPE and no way will he let that go without a fight. He's not giving up and getting out while he can. He's a smart experienced businessman that knows exactly what he's doing. I'm willing to bet that he had this already mapped out long before he recently visited Memphis and told the city that Graceland will be "spectacular". Only a inexpereinced business person would do the opposite. Sillerman's been in the game long enough to know how to handle these situations.

Another thing to take note of is the fact that OEP wants to buy the company at a very cheap market price of $460 million while Sillerman can jack the value up by offering more, say $500-600 million which in return makes the company more valuable and stable in the long run. Especially once he sells off short term success like 'Idol'. It's been said that as of now, 'Idol' is worth more than a billion dollars alone! But that value could drop at any time and any day and he would lose more than he'd gain. If Robert Sillerman can take it private it'll mean quicker swift actions on the Graceland plans as they won't have to wait for a third party to get involved on the investment side. Right now, investors are fearful of either Graceland or Elvis not withstanding another decade of overwhelming popularity or the economy not being stable enough. I would assume that they're fear is the latter.

Lastly, this resignation wasn't a surprise to the staff at CKX. Sillerman's contract as CEO was to expire in February 2011 anyway. So it was just a matter of time before he either renewed or resigned, as is what he chose as a business move. Nothing more or less.

Jungleroom76
05-09-2010, 11:52 AM
WOW!!! :supriced:

Thanks so much for the info. vivaelvis!!! You've certainly been doing your homework!! (y)

TCB!
Mike

debtdbruno
05-09-2010, 12:24 PM
That was a very interesting read............very informative, and puts it into perspective

Thank-you

Deb

KPM
05-10-2010, 01:22 PM
There seems to be alot of misconceptions, confusion, and assuming going on in the world of Elvis concerning the latest news on Robert FX Sillerman's resignation as CEO from CKX. Here's the reasons behind his decision. Back in 2005 when Sillerman took over as CEO of CKX he began to build on that small company by adding investments of interests such as EPE, Graceland operations, the Mohammed Ali estate, the hit tv show American idol, and then music division 19 Entertainment. He assumed that adding those entertainment investments would benefit the comapny's longevity and the value would bring outside interests in selling it to take it private. Unfortunately the stock never reached as high as they thought and even with Elvis, Ali and Idol it wasn't attractive enough as they had previously envisioned to sell it and because of that no interest came a calling. Then came the perfect economical storm, if you're a fortune 500 investor as Sillerman is. Once banks shut it's doors on those companies it forced a dominos effect that wiped out business after business on wall street and forced some into forclosure. The banks not loaning money is what killed the dream Elvis resort in Las Vegas. Delayed the grand plans for Graceland, and caused a royal style resort in the Carribeans to come to a hault during construstion in which Sillerman lost $180 million of his own money out of his own pocket and won't get it back. Now that resort, hotel and golf course lies unfinished and may never be.

One of Sillerman's biggest investments was 'American Idol'. But in the past 3 seasons it's ratings and populairty has slowly decreased despite topping all tv ratings for the nights it runs. But If 'Idol' doesn't start finding real talent soon like they have from Season 1 through 5 then they won't survive till their contract with Fox runs out in 2015. This past week saw idol's rating drop due to lack of interest in the final remaining contestants. The biggest week was Elvis Week with over 39 million votes registered. From what's been said, it appears that Robert Sillerman sees this and wants to part ways with 'Idol' and possibly '19 Entertainment' to save CKX from falling under the $4.00 a share mark that would cause default. His plan has been adn still is to take the company private. Quite possibly now as just an estate company only. He already has Elvis and Ali and has gone on record to say that he would like to add The Beatles, Marilyn Monroe, James Dean and a few other dead celebrities that have longevity and can be marketed. But the owner of Dean and Monroe and have said, not interested. The Beatles catalog is in the hands of the Jackson estate and McCartney is trying like crazy to get it back.

If Sillerman is able to buy and take over CKX it'll only benefit what he plans to do with Graceland. Him stepping down only makes that option more possible. He had to do that in order to make a bid for CKX. 'One Equity Partners', the company that's interested in buying CKX, is still in negotiations and a deal isn't far from being reached, according to insiders close to the situation. Apparently Sillerman sees that deal unbeneficial to the company and his own personal investments and is the sole reason for him resigning to make a bid of his own. That and the fact that the longer this sale drags out the more danger of CKX falling more in stock value and fear of the company going under, which means worst case scenario, banruptcy and loss of power over Graceland. That's the main purpose for him to take it private.

Some have labeled Robert FX Sillerman as a man out to make a buck and no real love for Elvis. Well, that's partly true and mostly false. Sillerman has been an avid Elvis fan for many years and unlike most of us witnessed Elvis on stage, at Madison Square Garden at that, which was one of the most historical moments in Elvis' career. He didn't go into this deal thinking of selling EPE within a 10 year's time. He signed a 99-year lease to have sole rights to the name, likenss and image of Elvis Presley. Besides the financial side, it was and still is his largest private investment that he's ever made with a company. He paid $115 million for EPE and no way will he let that go without a fight. He's not giving up and getting out while he can. He's a smart experienced businessman that knows exactly what he's doing. I'm willing to bet that he had this already mapped out long before he recently visited Memphis and told the city that Graceland will be "spectacular". Only a inexpereinced business person would do the opposite. Sillerman's been in the game long enough to know how to handle these situations.

Another thing to take note of is the fact that OEP wants to buy the company at a very cheap market price of $460 million while Sillerman can jack the value up by offering more, say $500-600 million which in return makes the company more valuable and stable in the long run. Especially once he sells off short term success like 'Idol'. It's been said that as of now, 'Idol' is worth more than a billion dollars alone! But that value could drop at any time and any day and he would lose more than he'd gain. If Robert Sillerman can take it private it'll mean quicker swift actions on the Graceland plans as they won't have to wait for a third party to get involved on the investment side. Right now, investors are fearful of either Graceland or Elvis not withstanding another decade of overwhelming popularity or the economy not being stable enough. I would assume that they're fear is the latter.

Lastly, this resignation wasn't a surprise to the staff at CKX. Sillerman's contract as CEO was to expire in February 2011 anyway. So it was just a matter of time before he either renewed or resigned, as is what he chose as a business move. Nothing more or less.
I understand what you say-but isn't it just speculation on your part as to the thinking of Sillerman, and the board of CKX?? Unless you are privy to the board meetings and all the discussions which go on behind the scenes there is really no way to know the why, who , what or where of this situation.
Sillerman did not have to resign to try and buy out the company-no legal or moral reason states he must do so.
You state that ".....Sillerman can jack the value up by offering more....." jacking up the value that could be stock manipulation-which is illegal-if it was proven that his only purpose is to send up the price of a deal with another company( since he owns about 20% of the stock.)
You point out his business experience-yet you say ......the fact that the longer this sale drags out the more danger of CKX falling more in stock value and fear of the company going under, which means worst case scenario, banruptcy and loss of power over Graceland.....
So CKX is so shaky under his management that the company may go under???? Because of another company wanting to acquire controlling interest???
If Sillerman really wanted to take it private all along why did he not just raise the capital and do so???why wait until another company makes a bid and then decide to maybe go it alone???
You say that Sillerman alone only will benefit the Graceland expansion..... but IMO that may not be the case......the other company wanting to take over control shows that CKX is vulnerable after only 5 years of Sillermans involvement.
Speculation is rampant on all sides of this issue-unless we are board members no one knows the reasoning of all of this-and IMO no one could plan this all out-its too haphazard in nature.

KPM
05-11-2010, 12:44 PM
We sure seem to have a lot of similar threads on Sillerman????

vivaelvis
05-15-2010, 10:29 PM
There should be some news on Robert Sillerman possibly within days regarding his plan to purchase the remaining shares of CKX and take the company private. There's also word out of NY that he might be working with the company One Equity Partners as a joint partnership if a purchase agreement is reached.

KPM
05-16-2010, 03:04 PM
Bloomberg Business Week May 7, 2010
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-07/ckx-ceo-sillerman-resigns-may-try-to-buy-company-update2-.html
His resignation, effectively immediately, allows the board to evaluate strategic options if Sillerman attempts to buy the company, New York-based CKX said today in a statement.

Sillerman’s pursuit of the company is separate from a bid by One Equity Partners, a person with knowledge of the situation said today. The person declined to be identified because the talks are private. One Equity Partners, JPMorgan Chase & Co.’s private-equity arm, was near an agreement to take CKX private, another person said in March.

Laura Kline, an outside spokeswoman for CKX, declined to comment beyond the statement.

CKX, which owns the rights to Elvis Presley’s name and image, confirmed March 29 that it was in discussions regarding a possible sale and said there was no assurance a deal would take place. Earlier that month Sillerman, the company’s biggest shareholder, said he was “extremely frustrated” with the stock price. He previously tried to take CKX private in 2007, dropping the bid in 2008....................Sillerman, who had been CEO since 2005, took out personal loans, backed by his CKX shares, that may default if the stock falls, according to regulatory filings........................................... ........



To me it sounds like the board and Mr. Sillerman do not see eye to eye-if the needs to "evaluate strategic options in the event Sillerman tries to buy the company" that sounds like a hostile takeover bid-all is not well.

KPM
05-16-2010, 03:14 PM
Bloomberg May 11th-2010
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=conewsstory&tkr=SPEA%3AUS&sid=aO6ryTqouZmU

Sillerman, CKX’s largest shareholder, resigned as chairman and chief executive officer last week to explore a takeover, and to let the board evaluate other options. New York-based CKX disclosed March 29 that it was in talks on a possible sale.

“There is a party that we have been in active dialogue on in the past month that triggered the announcement we made a month ago,” CKX Chief Financial Officer Thomas Benson said today on a conference call, without identifying the party.. “Separately and apart from that, Bob has now expressed a stated interest in taking the company private as well.”
This would be Sillerman’s second attempt to go private with CKX.......

Jungleroom76
05-16-2010, 06:38 PM
Although I am not business-savvy, I have to say that my gut feeling is something just isn't right with all of this and there are more problems here than we're being told about in regards to Sillerman's interests in EPE... :hmm:

TCB!
Mike

TCB81975
05-16-2010, 06:47 PM
Although I am not business-savvy, I have to say that my gut feeling is something just isn't right with all of this and there are more problems here than we're being told about in regards to Sillerman's interests in EPE... :hmm

TCB!
Mike

You nailed that on the head Mike.

TCB

Jon

vivaelvis
05-16-2010, 07:59 PM
There's some truth to that theory. At this point it's hard to evaulate what's really going on behind closed doors. Everything is complexed at the moment. I don't think it will affect Graceland tours but it could cancel plans for the proposed Graceland redevelopment altogether should CKX have to defaul from falling under $3.00 a share. It closed Friday at $5.00 even on the NASDAQ and will open tomorrow morning at around $4.98. If CKX has to default they won't be able to get future loans from banks for failing to pay back the loans they have already taken out. But if someone buys the company soon, as in the next few weeks or hopefuly days, then they're safe. It's not a doomsday situation, yet. But it could reach that level if a buyer doesn't show up soon.

Miss Clawdy
05-19-2010, 06:26 AM
We sure seem to have a lot of similar threads on Sillerman????

We sure have...;)
I can't help it...but there's a lot that sounds very familiar here....:supriced:;)

KPM
05-19-2010, 02:58 PM
IMO- the situation sounds like dissatisfaction and inner conflict on someones part-the board and major stockholders, or Mr Sillerman. Regardless the best face forward is what they will plant for everyone to see-even if behind the scenes it might be chaos.
lf a hostile takeover is being tried-by Sillerman or by One Equity Partner-its only because the whole situation is unstable and weakness is perceived by others-and they may have a point.

vivaelvis
05-23-2010, 03:06 PM
There was a report in yesterday's Business Week that said that Robert Sillerman might buy more shares or buy the company solo or with a business partner but that he's not yet made a decision on what he will do. My question is, how does he have control over Graceland and EPE operations if CKX, the company he no longer works with, owns the rights? How does that work?

KPM
05-24-2010, 01:47 PM
There was a report in yesterday's Business Week that said that Robert Sillerman might buy more shares or buy the company solo or with a business partner but that he's not yet made a decision on what he will do. My question is, how does he have control over Graceland and EPE operations if CKX, the company he no longer works with, owns the rights? How does that work?
I would assume that the board of Directors actually now has the sayso over Graceland and EPE-Sillerman is supposed to be just an advisor now-I would think until One Equity Partners or-Sillerman himself actually-make the buyout...that the board will run the show for all of CKX including Graceland and EPE.