Death on the Throne: The Passing of Elvis Presley

[john carpenter]

Death On The Throne: The Passing Of Elvis Presley

Posted 08.15.2004 by The Big Wiper (http://www.poopreport.com/user/the_big_wiper) (2292)
On August 17th, 1977, newspaper headlines across the country, proclaimed the shocking news: The King is dead.
Twenty-seven years ago today, Elvis passed away. Elvis Aaron Presley -- the poor, ambitious, rebellious young man from Tupelo, Mississippi, who gyrated http://www.poopreport.com/Images/Intellectual/Content/Elvis/Images/1.jpg
Headlines like this shocked fans around the world. himself to the top of the fledgling rock and roll industry in the mid 50s; who helped define and refine its essence for two more decades; and who became increasingly eccentric, isolated and unable to handle his mega-star status -- Elvis Aaron Presley had died at 42 of cardiac arrhythmia, a severely irregular heartbeat or heart attack. His millions of fans wanted immediate answers, wondering how such a thing could possibly have happened to one so previously blessed with good fortune.
At first, conflicting reports circulated throughout the media of how Elvis had met his end, and who had discovered him in his Graceland bathroom. Initial accounts had Joe Esposito, his road manager, discovering Elvis' body fully clothed in pajamas, face up on the floor of the bathroom, around 2:30 on the afternoon of August 16th. Elvis was rushed to the emergency room at Memphis Baptist Hospital, where Jay Francisco, the Shelby County medical examiner, pronounced him dead at 3:30. It was speculated that he might have been dead as early as 9:00 that morning. The only drugs detected in his system were those prescribed by his personal physician and friend, Dr. George Nichopoulos, for hypertension and for a colon blockage (an affliction that hospitalized the singer twice in 1975). A drug overdose of any kind was quickly ruled out.
But a different set of details eventually emerged. To protect Elvis's young fiancé -- a novice actress named Ginger Alden, to whom he was to be married on Christmas Day later that year -- the sequence of events was altered. What actually happened was this: Elvis, who had been unable to sleep, had played racquetball most of the night and early into Tuesday morning (around 6:30). He then told Ginger, who had a separate bedroom and bath, that he was going into his bathroom "to read" for a while. The book he took in with him, interestingly enough, was The Face Of Jesus, by Frank Adams.
It was Ginger who discovered him around 1:30 in the afternoon that day, after he did not respond to her queries at his bathroom door. Finding it unlocked, she pushed on it and encountered him laying on the floor, facedown in a pool http://www.poopreport.com/Images/Intellectual/Content/Elvis/Images/2.jpg
Ginger Alden, Elvis' fiancé, the first to discover the King that fateful morning. of vomit, his pajama bottoms around his ankles. To spare the distraught woman's feelings and ease her emotional burden, the discovery story was somewhat sanitized in its initial release to the press, particularly regarding the part she had played in the traumatic event, his state of undress and the bodily function in which he had surely been engaged. Only later did it become common knowledge that Elvis had died while trying to defecate.
In his 1999 biography Careless Love: The Unmaking Of Elvis (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0316332224/qid=1092411031/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-4060811-9280648?v=glance&s=books), author Peter Guralnick emphasizes that "it was certainly possible that (Elvis) had been taken while straining at stool"; and Shelby County medical examiner Dan Warlick also indicated that it appeared Elvis had been stricken while seated on the toilet before falling off, crawling several feet, throwing up and dying.
Autopsy results later released to the general public did nothing to discourage this scenario. The singer's heart was enlarged with a significant amount of coronary atherosclerosis, there was extensive liver damage, and the large intestine was clogged with fecal matter, indicating a chronic and painful bowel condition. Elvis's former aide and bodyguard Delbert "Sonny" West would later complete the distressing and graphic picture of the King's physiological torment in a widely-circulated newspaper interview, revealing that his employer's drug habit was "so strong that he had to take pills to get up in the morning, to regulate his bowel movements, to sleep and to perform."
"He took every possible pill you can think of," West continued, "including pain pills during the day. Demerol and morphine shots (with http://www.poopreport.com/Images/Intellectual/Content/Elvis/Images/3.jpg (http://www.zyworld.com/collins3076/Page6.htm)
An actual photo of Elvis' bathroom Pretty swanky! syringes) for the downs. And a very strong pain medication intended for terminally-ill cancer patients for a pleasant high."
Although these drugs were not in his system at the time of his death, the damage done to his cardiovascular system by dependence upon such substances -- along with a lifetime of extravagant and unhealthy nutritional habits (he was at least thirty pounds overweight when he died) and a previously documented intestinal blockage -- all point to the 'straining at stool' scenario (surely without success):mad: as the probable impetus for his fatal arrhythmia. (His pajamas pants around his ankles, of course, are a dead giveaway.)
Researching this story in the Tupelo library, I was struck by the irony of one of the first newspaper headlines I encountered in the vertical file: "Death Won't Dethrone The King." That particular banner, which heralded an affectionate tribute to his career and made no reference to the manner in which Elvis had died, was more prescient than the headline writer could ever have imagined.
Don't kill the messenger:blink: I just thought this was interesting

[ANT GORMAN]

well you thought wrong then,i for one am disgusted to find a post like this on on here or any other site i cant believe you could stoop so low

[sasha]

well you thought wrong then,i for one am disgusted to find a post like this on on here or any other site i cant believe you could stoop so low

I agree . Pretty sick.

[donaldmccurry.63]

ur a sad man mate and sick at that wee don't need people like you on our site

[May]

You know, all that sticks out from this article is that people can write the most horrendous articles about Elvis Presley (true or untrue) and yet all it does it merely shows nothing can diminish the positive feelings people have about him and his talent.

[Albert]

I don't have a problem having an article like this on our site. It's the cold fact where we have to deal with everyday when talking with non-fans.

I have one question though: who was the absolute ***** who came out with the news that Elvis died, sitting on the toilet?

How hard is it to change the story a little bit to: we found Elvis in the bathroom, not mentioning the toilet (or any other private parts)?

The man who brought this news to the world has done so much damage to the image of Elvis. An absolute egomaniac who must have been thrilled to be (finally) in the spotlights.

[TTWII2001]

I'm new on this site, and I never thought I'd read stuff like from a so called Elvis fan......you should be a shame, you should write an apologie...adios(n)(n)

[Teddy]

Oops! I think that's the sound of the messenger being ventilated by the firing squad! ;)

[Miss Clawdy]

Thank's for the article...you are right...it was interesting.

[TotallyInsane]

Thanks David - it was an interesting article. I would just like to ask though since he was found ON THE FLOOR - why does everyone say he DIED ON THE TOILET? Apparently, he died on the floor - oh I know, the toilet story just sounds a lot better!!!

And, folks, please get off David's case for posting this. I know you've read about it before and probably read worse things than this if you've ever read any books.

[kathy parkinson]

Absolutely right Gail, i've read a lot worse than this, it is sad to read, but, interesting no less, thanks David.

[molokai123]

Thanks David - it was an interesting article. I would just like to ask though since he was found ON THE FLOOR - why does everyone say he DIED ON THE TOILET? Apparently, he died on the floor - oh I know, the toilet story just sounds a lot better!!!

And, folks, please get off David's case for posting this. I know you've read about it before and probably read worse things than this if you've ever read any books.

totally agree!(y)(y)

[rocknroll]

ur a sad man mate and sick at that wee don't need people like you on our site

Absolutely, I agree. Let's get back to discussing Elvis' tounge or how he looks in tight shorts.(y)

Actually, I saw Elvis walking on water yesterday.:notworthy

[Lisarose]

Death On The Throne: The Passing Of Elvis Presley

Posted 08.15.2004 by The Big Wiper (http://www.poopreport.com/user/the_big_wiper) (2292)
On August 17th, 1977, newspaper headlines across the country, proclaimed the shocking news: The King is dead.
Twenty-seven years ago today, Elvis passed away. Elvis Aaron Presley -- the poor, ambitious, rebellious young man from Tupelo, Mississippi, who gyrated http://www.poopreport.com/Images/Intellectual/Content/Elvis/Images/1.jpg
author Peter Guralnick emphasizes that "it was certainly possible that (Elvis) had been taken while straining at stool"; Don't kill the messenger:blink: I just thought this was interesting

Definitetly interesting, it isn't David that started the "died on the pot" catchphrase - I hear it all the time from younger people when they discover I'm an Elvis fan. I hate that phrase, but I merely say, yes, he was in his bathroom. IMO, most people head for the bathroom when they don't feel well, but back to the subject. . .

Interesting that Guralnick states "it was certainly possible", he interviewed a lot of people and I suppose that they still can't get their stories straight, & he was left to conclude that this is but one possibility!
IMO, another possibility - he could have been feeling chest pains, fell to the floor, and as he was crawling to the door, his silk pj's were pulled away from his waistline.

However he died, he's still the best entertainer, singer, interpreter of songs, artistry excellence. Just my opinion

[Lisarose]

Absolutely, I agree. Let's get back to discussing Elvis' tounge or how he looks in tight shorts.(y)

Actually, I saw Elvis walking on water yesterday.:notworthy

rocknroll, you make me smile - thanks! (y)

[Diane]

I have to agree with Albert. The blame does lie with the person who revealed this story in the first place. There was never any need to be this graphic and we will never know whether it was truth or exaggeration.

Diane

[john carpenter]

Definitetly interesting, it isn't David that started the "died on the pot" catchphrase - I hear it all the time from younger people when they discover I'm an Elvis fan. I hate that phrase, but I merely say, yes, he was in his bathroom. IMO, most people head for the bathroom when they don't feel well, but back to the subject. . .

Interesting that Guralnick states "it was certainly possible", he interviewed a lot of people and I suppose that they still can't get their stories straight, & he was left to conclude that this is but one possibility!
IMO, another possibility - he could have been feeling chest pains, fell to the floor, and as he was crawling to the door, his silk pj's were pulled away from his waistline.

However he died, he's still the best entertainer, singer, interpreter of songs, artistry excellence. Just my opinion
Well, Thanks for defending me. I didn't mean to cause any hate against me:mad: I just saw it & posted without thinking!:doh:

[john carpenter]

I don't have a problem having an article like this on our site. It's the cold fact where we have to deal with everyday when talking with non-fans.

I have one question though: who was the absolute ***** who came out with the news that Elvis died, sitting on the toilet?

How hard is it to change the story a little bit to: we found Elvis in the bathroom, not mentioning the toilet (or any other private parts)?

The man who brought this news to the world has done so much damage to the image of Elvis. An absolute egomaniac who must have been thrilled to be (finally) in the spotlights.
Just delete this Thread Albert! I'm sorry OMG!:no:

[Diane]

No need to be sorry David, you just posted what you found. It's just old news and not necessarily correct as all other articles we come across.

Diane

[May]

Absolutely, I agree. Let's get back to discussing Elvis' tounge or how he looks in tight shorts.(y)

Actually, I saw Elvis walking on water yesterday.:notworthy

What's a tounge?:doh:

[Gail's Mom]

This Gail - I'm at my mom's house.

David - I did not think that you started the rumor about him dying on the pot. That's been out there forever. I do not think people should be angry at you for posting what we've been reading and hearing for years.

Now that I got that straight!! (y)(y)

[Teddy]

Agreed, it was pretty clear to me too, David.

[Junebug]

David,

Just keep on loving Elvis like we know you do....

We know what is real here.


Here's something funny........:lol:

I thought I would take a look at who wrote this aricle and clicked on the the author's name in the posted article -

"Posted 08.15.2004 by The Big Wiper (http://www.poopreport.com/user/the_big_wiper) (2292)
On August 17th, 1977, newspaper headlines across the country,......"

The information found in the author's profile might explain some things..........:P :P :P

But BE WARNED !!!!

If you choose to go to this information, it could be considered offensive, disgusting, in poor taste. etc.......



Take care and glad the weather has warmed up in 'your neck of the woods'!!! (y)


:king:

[debtdbruno]

You know, all that sticks out from this article is that people can write the most horrendous articles about Elvis Presley (true or untrue) and yet all it does it merely shows nothing can diminish the positive feelings people have about him and his talent.

This is so true............we all go at some point, and we don't have a choice when it is. Unfortunately for Elvis, nothing is private or sacred.

Truth be told, he didn't die on the toilet anyway, he was too far away from it..............

No wonder Joe Esposito tried to tell the story originally that he died in bed........would have saved a lot of ridicule over the years if it had stuck

[Albert]

Well, Thanks for defending me. I didn't mean to cause any hate against me:mad: I just saw it & posted without thinking!:doh:
I think the people attacking you misread the topic a bit: you've just posted an article, not agreeing with what the article says.

I can't remember exactly, but wasn't it Joe Esposito who went into details about Elvis' death real quick?

[mislulu]

Albert I believe you are right !!

[KPM]

I think this has been posted before-at least it seems it has since I have been a member here. The idea of where he died seems to be something that is of great importance to some-and it adds to the image we all hate of Elvis.
Young people eat this type thing up and love to mention it when they describe Elvis, whether it is 100% fact or an educated guess- it adds to the image of the bloated, jumpsuited, stumbling singer that many see when the name Elvis Presley is mentioned.
They do not see the 1956 thin, young, happy, bursting with energy fireball who was essential in rocks beginning, nor the 1969-73 fit as fiddle Elvis- who once again showed the world what rock was truely about and showed more charisma and talent than could be imagined............nope they see the image described in this article, many times quoted or misquoted with the same image coming to mind, which lends to the notions of Elvis, by many, in 2010.:blush:
How a life of greatness can be so skewed by a 3-4 year period of that life is sickening to me.

[sasha]

Well, Thanks for defending me. I didn't mean to cause any hate against me:mad: I just saw it & posted without thinking!:doh:

I know it was not you that wrote this article.
I just hate reading this stuff as many has said, he died on the floor.
Author Peter Guralnick talked to many people including EPE.
While much in his books was very good, informative .I just wish he'd left that part out.
It just opened up all kinds of this kind of talk from some that enjoy making fun of everyone & anyone.
I've wondered if he was ever sorry about including it.
As to such articles; I just consider the sources & don't read them !

[KPM]

I know it was not you that wrote this article.
I just hate reading this stuff as many has said, he died on the floor.
Author Peter Guralnick talked to many people including EPE.
While much in his books was very good, informative .I just wish he'd left that part out.
It just opened up all kinds of this kind of talk from some that enjoy making fun of everyone & anyone.I've wondered if he was ever sorry about including it.
As to such articles; I just consider the sources & don't read them !
It is a sad fact of Elvis's life that the negatives or (perceived negatives) always seem to come to the top of a discussion on Elvis when casual fans or non fans and even some good fans.
The facts of biggest record seller in the world, or most gold/platinum, or the great great music which set the records, his explosion in 1956 which launched rock to the world, his talented athletic performances all thru his career, the remarkable unpredicted reimergence in 1968 which launched his career, and last but not least the voice which could sing almost anything and make it sound natural-none draws the press, nor the passion of the negatives of his life story. The image suffers.

[SleepyJack]

Reads like the same old brand of rubbish to me,the best thing to do is probably ignore it as best you can,Elvis will be remembered long after all of these losers...let them milk their little bit of fame and tell their stories... who cares? Elvis has survived this far despite everything...and he`ll go on a lot longer.
Death and illness do nothing for anyones appearance,neither does it care about their dignity.... many of us will probably have equally unpleasant things happen us as we get old and slowly but surely fall apart....and it probably won`t be pretty. There is no shame in being ill or suffering from anything.... people who take advantage of it to belittle people and make fun of them...now they really should hang their heads in shame.
Don`t worry David... I won`t be hiding in your garden with a baseball bat or anything!!!..you`re safe.....from me at least!!!

[john carpenter]

I don't have a problem having an article like this on our site. It's the cold fact where we have to deal with everyday when talking with non-fans.

I have one question though: who was the absolute ***** who came out with the news that Elvis died, sitting on the toilet?

How hard is it to change the story a little bit to: we found Elvis in the bathroom, not mentioning the toilet (or any other private parts)?

The man who brought this news to the world has done so much damage to the image of Elvis. An absolute egomaniac who must have been thrilled to be (finally) in the spotlights.
Thank you albert & my friends. I just thought the story would be interesting. Maybe i am sick? (not):lmfao:Get over it..Elvis was only Human:king:

[KPM]

I think the people attacking you misread the topic a bit: you've just posted an article, not agreeing with what the article says.

I can't remember exactly, but wasn't it Joe Esposito who went into details about Elvis' death real quick?

It was about 20 years after Elvis had died that Esposito came forth with the his assumptions on the details.
But it had already come to light long before his telling. Not sure who first brought it out-but I believe the first mention of the possibility was in the Goldman book, which came out in 1981 and one of his main sources was Lamar Fike.
IMO it is a sensationilistic detail-which just adds to the bad image-it does not change the greatness, nor the impact on the world and music of his life-but it overshadows those things for many who have no inkling nor understanding of the greatness.

[rocknroll]

What's a tounge?:doh:

Actually, I'm not sure now that I think about it.:lmfao:

[rocknroll]

Actually, I distinctly remember hearing in 1977 that he was found with his shirt off and his pants around his ankles. I think that was revealed by one of the ambulance drivers. It is not hard, even back then, to figure out what he was doing when he passed.

[Diane]

Actually, I distinctly remember hearing in 1977 that he was found with his shirt off and his pants around his ankles. I think that was revealed by one of the ambulance drivers. It is not hard, even back then, to figure out what he was doing when he passed.

I still don't see what is the big deal. Did not Roy Orbison die in a similar way and I've never read or heard any hubbub about him. To me it's all trying to take a great man down using anything that presents itself.

Diane

[Lyndon]

I'm new on this site, and I never thought I'd read stuff like from a so called Elvis fan......you should be a shame, you should write an apologie...adios(n)(n)

Nothing controversial in this topic. Its all true. You must living in a nutshell, without facing the truth, 30 years after his death. If you're new to this site its about time you wake up to reality....

[Tommy]

Why keep on talking about this, I don't think of how my loved ones died, it only make it worse. Let's remember the happy times. (y)

[annie1000]

Why keep on talking about this, I don't think of how my loved ones died, it only make it worse. Let's remember the happy times. (y)
(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[Tommy]

(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

Thank you.(y)

[Teddy]

Fortunately, no rumors or relayed information about about the circumstances of Elvis's Presley's death can ever compromise the dignity and greatness of his contribution to life, so in acknowledgment of this, I choose not to worry about it.

The stories aren't going to go away, so in tribute we must learn to live with them and continue celebrating the greatness regardless.

And to be honest, if we really love Elvis, we won't be inclined to behave like we're ashamed of the way he died anyway.
Naturally, it saddens me to consider the manner of his passing, but I'm increasingly uncomfortable with this desire to conceal it like some guilty secret.
It's out there already! You've just got to suck it up and keep loving Elvis!

[midnight]

Guys please take it easy. David (john carpenter) is a very loyal and wonderful Elvis fan. He is just posting some information that he thought some of us would like to read.

[midnight]

Fortunately, no rumors or relayed information about about the circumstances of Elvis's Presley's death can ever compromise the dignity and greatness of his contribution to life, so in acknowledgment of this, I choose not to worry about it.

The stories aren't going to go away, so in tribute we must learn to live with them and continue celebrating the greatness regardless.

And to be honest, if we really love Elvis, we won't be inclined to behave like we're ashamed of the way he died anyway.
Naturally, it saddens me to consider the manner of his passing, but I'm increasingly uncomfortable with this desire to conceal it like some guilty secret.
It's out there already! You've just got to suck it up and keep loving Elvis!


Excellent post Teddy!(y)

[debtdbruno]

Fortunately, no rumors or relayed information about about the circumstances of Elvis's Presley's death can ever compromise the dignity and greatness of his contribution to life, so in acknowledgment of this, I choose not to worry about it.

The stories aren't going to go away, so in tribute we must learn to live with them and continue celebrating the greatness regardless.

And to be honest, if we really love Elvis, we won't be inclined to behave like we're ashamed of the way he died anyway.
Naturally, it saddens me to consider the manner of his passing, but I'm increasingly uncomfortable with this desire to conceal it like some guilty secret.
It's out there already! You've just got to suck it up and keep loving Elvis!


I don't think we are ashamed of the way he died Teddy............we get annoyed and upset that other people ridicule him, by the 'on the toilet jokes':cursing::cursing:

[mrsphilly]

Thanks for the video. IT WAS VERY GOOD.

[Tommy]

This is not a personal attack on John, everyone is just discussing the subject matter. No further need for this article.

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

Personally I see the way Elvis died as sad. In my experience I have never heard younger people mention where Elvis died, it always seems to be the older generation which seem to focus on this particular area!

Over the last 5-10 years I have seen a more positive Image of Elvis emerge, the papers no longer feel the need to show a picture of Elvis all bloated and caught mid motion doing a karate move. There is really positive things out there about Elvis and you don't have to dig too deep to find it.

The Web is full of positive sites dedicated to Elvis, over the last couple of weeks there has been T.V. specials shown, concerts shown and music played on radio shows.

So what if Elvis died in an unflattering way, I sweep that stuff aside in a blink of an eye and divert to the positive.

There are people who want to discuss this topic and we should let them do so as long as they do it in a respectful way.

[Sonny]

And people, remember that John Carpenter is not, I repeat NOT the one that created this article.

[Nicole Presley]

What's a tounge?:doh:

I think rocknroll meant Elvis´ tongue.

[KPM]

Personally I see the way Elvis died as sad. In my experience I have never heard younger people mention where Elvis died, it always seems to be the older generation which seem to focus on this particular area!

Over the last 5-10 years I have seen a more positive Image of Elvis emerge, the papers no longer feel the need to show a picture of Elvis all bloated and caught mid motion doing a karate move. There is really positive things out there about Elvis and you don't have to dig too deep to find it.

The Web is full of positive sites dedicated to Elvis, over the last couple of weeks there has been T.V. specials shown, concerts shown and music played on radio shows.

So what if Elvis died in an unflattering way, I sweep that stuff aside in a blink of an eye and divert to the positive.

There are people who want to discuss this topic and we should let them do so as long as they do it in a respectful way.
Unfortunately I have-nephews, nieces, friends of my kids when they were in high school.
IMO It seems they love the shock factor (probably my facial expression) when they bring it up-I finally told one nephew that is was not funny and that no one chooses the place they are born -nor usually the moment they die and that if my nephew accomplished 1/100th of what Elvis did in his life-he would be a great success.
Some people look for the negative-to strip down the accomplishments and importance of people, and it helps them to feel better about who and what they are-sad but true.

[debtdbruno]

People (particlarly the Media) love putting Celebrities on a pedistal................and then take great delight in knocking them off

Very sad

[annie1000]

Unfortunately I have-nephews, nieces, friends of my kids when they were in high school.
IMO It seems they love the shock factor (probably my facial expression) when they bring it up-I finally told one nephew that is was not funny and that no one chooses the place they are born -nor usually the moment they die and that if my nephew accomplished 1/100th of what Elvis did in his life-he would be a great success.
Some people look for the negative-to strip down the accomplishments and importance of people, and it helps them to feel better about who and what they are-sad but true.
:notworthy:notworthy(y)

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

Unfortunately I have-nephews, nieces, friends of my kids when they were in high school.
IMO It seems they love the shock factor (probably my facial expression) when they bring it up-I finally told one nephew that is was not funny and that no one chooses the place they are born -nor usually the moment they die and that if my nephew accomplished 1/100th of what Elvis did in his life-he would be a great success.
Some people look for the negative-to strip down the accomplishments and importance of people, and it helps them to feel better about who and what they are-sad but true.

This might be the case, however there are very few artists who after 30 years of being dead can still accomplish such attention.


People (particlarly the Media) love putting Celebrities on a pedistal................and then take great delight in knocking them off

Very sad

Again agreed, there are minor celebrities who get attention maybe 1 or two years after their fame has diminished, if someone is still knocking you after 30+ years you know you are something special!!!!

[Genie]

I don't think we are ashamed of the way he died Teddy............we get annoyed and upset that other people ridicule him, by the 'on the toilet jokes':cursing::cursing:



I'm just visiting my old hang out, and found this interesting..seeing I am from that era.
I don't see the need for all the angry red faces, it's a very old story and his "Throne" from what I've been told was actually special made...like a recliner, because he had colon problems and the pain killers caused even worse problems.
Nothing unusual or indecent about where Elvis died, in fact he actually died on the bathroom carpet. If we want to nit pick.
John said nothing bad about Elvis...
In fact the whole thing has been talked about and written about a million times by people who didn't know or love the man(E.P.) and they were responsible for the crude remarks, even some of the so called Memphis Maphia tossed it in for shock appeal in their already raunchy books.

[Genie]

Nothing controversial in this topic. Its all true. You must living in a nutshell, without facing the truth, 30 years after his death. If you're new to this site its about time you wake up to reality....

;) The point is, you are NEW on this site. You don't know John Carpenter and he has nothing to apologize for.
He probably knows more about Elvis Presley, his life and death than half the fan's here. Let him be.

[Genie]

I'm new on this site, and I never thought I'd read stuff like from a so called Elvis fan......you should be a shame, you should write an apologie...adios(n)(n)


Well you might want to count your blessings and also your friends and know details, large or small about Elvis, his so called friends, his family and his fans.
John is a great guy and a big fan... believe you me, if the moderator's are ok with it, there was nothing at all wrong with the article, which he didn't write, so where is the problem.
The author of the original article got it only half right anyway.:hmm:

[debtdbruno]

The comments passed were not aimed at John, we know he only posted an article previously released.

It does get people's goat up when there are still individuals out there who love to do the 'toilet' joke.........

We all have to go somewhere and sometime, it's the indignity of ignorant people making jokes at his expense

[Genie]

The comments passed were not aimed at John, we know he only posted an article previously released.

It does get people's goat up when there are still individuals out there who love to do the 'toilet' joke.........

We all have to go somewhere and sometime, it's the indignity of ignorant people making jokes at his expense


I above most, know this all too well, thank you. It's a pity that any article was ever written regarding a "Toilet" as correctly Elvis died on the bathroom floor. I don't want to know anybody who thinks that is a joke. Do you?

[debtdbruno]

I above most, know this all too well, thank you. It's a pity that any article was ever written regarding a "Toilet" as correctly Elvis died on the bathroom floor. I don't want to know anybody who thinks that is a joke. Do you?


Of course I don't.........
The point that was made, was non-fans ridicule him............

I also know he didn't die 'on the toilet'........

[Tony Trout]

*resists from making comment cuz I can't get my thoughts together*

[Getlo]

even some of the so called Memphis Maphia tossed it in for shock appeal in their already raunchy books.


Hmm?

Tell us exactly where and in what books did any of the MM say Elvis died on the toilet.

[Cliff]

I think the people attacking you misread the topic a bit: you've just posted an article, not agreeing with what the article says.

I can't remember exactly, but wasn't it Joe Esposito who went into details about Elvis' death real quick?

I agree with you Albert. But why post it? I realize it's a fact that you can not hide, it is one that should be ignored though.The subject is not really a 'need to know' topic is it?
I don't really want to add any more to this except to say that any doctor will tell you this is a common occurance. We must also remember that the Americans always refer to it as 'the bathroom'.

[Getlo]

Hmm?

Tell us exactly where and in what books did any of the MM say Elvis died on the toilet.

And still we wait ... ;) :rolleyes:

[sasha]

And still we wait ... ;) :rolleyes:
I can see you're well informed. Please tell us, who did say that first?
Thanks.

[Getlo]

I can see you're well informed. Please tell us, who did say that first?
Thanks.

No, I asked Genie (you know, the close "friend" of Elvis :rolleyes:) what members of the MM had said Elvis died on the toilet, and where.

And still we wait.

[sasha]

No, I asked Genie (you know, the close "friend" of Elvis :rolleyes:) what members of the MM had said Elvis died on the toilet, and where.

And still we wait.

First Joe {in a video} said he found Elvis in the bedroom - and it goes on from there
Different people, different stories. Same people, different stories.;)
I've really never seen it written {in a book} or spoken of quite so crudely, except in some articles.
I guess it's up to us to stop the jokes & laughter & point to the music. :D
Thanks !!

[Getlo]

My point stands: no one in the MM has ever said Elvis died on the toilet.

Just more muckraking by a well-known MM hater.

[sasha]

I do not like or believe most of what the MM says either.
It's all embellished, IMO, to sell a story, a book, etc.
There appears to be a lot of jealousy with those people.

However, I dislike whoever started this story more!!