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Elvis and Johnny
12-20-2009, 03:29 PM
:)

I think he is one of the BEST actors ever! He is just as good as James Dean, Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, etc...

His dramatic acting in Jailhouse Rock and Wild in the Country is so natural and amazing!

His comedy acting in Follow That Dream, G.I. Blues, and Tickle Me, etc... is so funny, and his facial expressions are hilarious! :lol:

Kid Galahad and Loving You are also some of his best work. (y)

He is a much better actor than people give him credit for. :king: (y)

rocknroll
12-20-2009, 04:15 PM
One of the best ever? Really?

Jungleroom76
12-20-2009, 04:24 PM
I think he is one of the BEST actors ever! He is just as good as James Dean, Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, etc...

He is a much better actor than people give him credit for. :king: (y)

I agree completely that Elvis was a much better actor than people gave him credit for. But the main reason the critics were so hard on him were because of the quality of the scripts, not so much because of Elvis' acting. I truly believe that if Elvis had received more quality scripts (along the lines of JAILHOUSE ROCK, KING CREOLE & WILD IN THE COUNTRY) that he could have really showed off his acting abilities.

Unfortunately, because Elvis was locked into the endless stream of musicals, most producers and directors wouldn't even look at Elvis for a more dramatic role. Again though, I don't think it was because of Elvis' acting ability...some of the lesser quality movies were only decent because Elvis was the star...but because of the quality of the scripts! :hmm:

TCB!
Mike

rickb
12-20-2009, 04:27 PM
Umm, no, he wasn't one of the best ever but there were enough glimpses of talent to show that he was a decent actor in both dramatic and comic roles. Sadly he was mostly assigned rubbish scripts and el-cheapo directors and crappy songs and his film career never reached its potential

shelley.m.
12-20-2009, 05:31 PM
Elvis could have been a great actor! It's too darn bad that the Col. Parker had to interfere.

Jungleroom76
12-20-2009, 06:04 PM
It's too darn bad that the Col. Parker had to interfere.

:cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:

TCB!
Mike

Genie
12-20-2009, 06:05 PM
One of the best ever? Really?

Elvis revealed in large ways and in small unexpected ways in the films he did, that he did have a great talent other than singing inside of him.
He was so much more than he was allowed to be. :'( So sad that anyone doubts this.

Getlo
12-21-2009, 05:24 AM
:)

I think he is one of the BEST actors ever! He is just as good as James Dean, Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, etc...

Oh, come on ...! ;)

That's like saying Clint Eastwood sang as well as Elvis, when he did Paint Your Wagon!

May
12-21-2009, 05:32 AM
I agree completely that Elvis was a much better actor than people gave him credit for. But the main reason the critics were so hard on him were because of the quality of the scripts, not so much because of Elvis' acting. I truly believe that if Elvis had received more quality scripts (along the lines of JAILHOUSE ROCK, KING CREOLE & WILD IN THE COUNTRY) that he could have really showed off his acting abilities.

:hmm:

TCB!
Mike

(y)(y)(y)(y)

debtdbruno
12-21-2009, 09:28 AM
I agree completely that Elvis was a much better actor than people gave him credit for. But the main reason the critics were so hard on him were because of the quality of the scripts, not so much because of Elvis' acting. I truly believe that if Elvis had received more quality scripts (along the lines of JAILHOUSE ROCK, KING CREOLE & WILD IN THE COUNTRY) that he could have really showed off his acting abilities.

Unfortunately, because Elvis was locked into the endless stream of musicals, most producers and directors wouldn't even look at Elvis for a more dramatic role. Again though, I don't think it was because of Elvis' acting ability...some of the lesser quality movies were only decent because Elvis was the star...but because of the quality of the scripts! :hmm:

TCB!
Mike




Agree Mike............however those roles made him very rich. Gave him the money to be able to spend on what he liked, and it kept him working in the 60's when some Rock n' Rollers went out of fashion.
Blame the fans too, they wanted to go see Elvis sing, not act, hence why the more serious roles didn't do as well at the box office.

One ot the best actors?............no not quite IMO.
Shame he didn't get the opportunity to stretch himself

Junebug
12-21-2009, 10:13 AM
Agree Mike............however those roles made him very rich. Gave him the money to be able to spend on what he liked, and it kept him working in the 60's when some Rock n' Rollers went out of fashion.
Blame the fans too, they wanted to go see Elvis sing, not act, hence why the more serious roles didn't do as well at the box office.

One ot the best actors?............no not quite IMO.
Shame he didn't get the opportunity to stretch himself


Elvis' musical films also provided alot of revenue for the movie studios enabling them to front 'bigger' productions with A-list actors.

Elvis was one of the highest-earning actors of that time although not one of the highest-regarded.

A well-known quote from movie producer Hal Willis in the '60s - "A Presley picture is the only sure thing in show business".

And I agree - It is a shame he was not given more diverse opportunities.
I think he would have been able to make notable contributations in this area as well. I think he could have really been magnificent!


:king:

monk37
12-21-2009, 10:27 AM
I agree there's places that he showed real acting talent - but Elvis should have gotten an acting coach and used a different agent

Parker was out of his league in Hollywood - he was only a powerful manager because he had the client everyone wanted. Parker just bullied to get the cash and didn't think about what was standard for other actors like script approval.

Elvis' career can be likened to the porn industry

in the early days, there was effort to make a story - and then, it was just crank them out to maximize profit because the audience of the day isn't demanding better


in fact, Flaming Star and Wild in the Country didn't do as well as GI Blues and Blue Hawaii - and that sealed Elvis' fate and created the Elvis picture.

Jungleroom76
12-21-2009, 10:32 AM
Agree Mike............however those roles made him very rich. Gave him the money to be able to spend on what he liked, and it kept him working in the 60's when some Rock n' Rollers went out of fashion.
Blame the fans too, they wanted to go see Elvis sing, not act, hence why the more serious roles didn't do as well at the box office.

Yeah, but I really wonder if Elvis wouldn't have traded in all the money he made on all of those films for a few better quality movies that he could be more proud of the job he did in them??? :hmm:

TCB!
Mike

Nicole Presley
12-21-2009, 10:52 AM
Elvis is my favorite actor! :)

GIORGIA
12-21-2009, 11:48 AM
Elvis is my favorite actor! :-)
Me too:wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:!E xample?Love Me Tender:wub: and Change Of Habit:wub:!
Are also My Favourites:wub:!

Unchained Melody
12-21-2009, 11:50 AM
One of the best ever? Really?

No way.:blink:

KPM
12-21-2009, 01:22 PM
Elvis did some good work in a few of his films, but the rest just were not the type of movies where it really mattered-they were light musicals with light scripts.
Elvis had potential, I truely believe it he had little training and yet in his first 4-5 films was very credible-but after those first films.......

ForeverTheKing
12-21-2009, 01:44 PM
Umm, no, he wasn't one of the best ever but there were enough glimpses of talent to show that he was a decent actor in both dramatic and comic roles. Sadly he was mostly assigned rubbish scripts and el-cheapo directors and crappy songs and his film career never reached its potential

I agree...one of the best is being too generous but sure there was so much potential in him, and he was better than many others, "real actors" I mean.
A shame he couldn't express himself as he wanted...but first of all Elvis was an great singer and interpreter (y)

Dino78
12-22-2009, 02:20 AM
It's impossible to say what quality he had as an actor. His movies were not made to show him as a academy award winning candidate. Could he had been a great actor in that way? Maybe yes. Sinatra made it (specially "Man With The Golden Arm"), Dean Martin made it ("Rio Bravo" and "The Young Lions") but Elvis? Who knows. His movies were made as vehicles to show Elvis the singer, a weak story, no conflicts etc. King Creole and Flaming Star are showing his skills but he just went the other way. And it's too easy to blame Parker alone. Elvis was the highest-paid actor in the Sixties in Hollywood. So why to change too much? Sinatra and Martin made their own vehicles too. It was Elvis who said that only the director is his teacher, that he doesn't study Stanislawski etc. No method acting, etc.
So again. He was a good actor. He was perfect for the movies he made. Could he had been better? Of course but everyone (!!!) who was involved let these chances pass by.

Dino78
12-22-2009, 02:20 AM
It's impossible to say what quality he had as an actor. His movies were not made to show him as a academy award winning candidate. Could he had been a great actor in that way? Maybe yes. Sinatra made it (specially "Man With The Golden Arm"), Dean Martin made it ("Rio Bravo" and "The Young Lions") but Elvis? Who knows. His movies were made as vehicles to show Elvis the singer, a weak story, no conflicts etc. King Creole and Flaming Star are showing his skills but he just went the other way. And it's too easy to blame Parker alone. Elvis was the highest-paid actor in the Sixties in Hollywood. So why to change too much? Sinatra and Martin made their own vehicles too. It was Elvis who said that only the director is his teacher, that he doesn't study Stanislawski etc. No method acting, etc.
So again. He was a good actor. He was perfect for the movies he made. Could he had been better? Of course but everyone (!!!) who was involved let these chances pass by.

Getlo
12-22-2009, 06:00 AM
It's impossible to say what quality he had as an actor.

You mean could have had as an actor.

Dino78
12-22-2009, 07:05 AM
You mean could have had as an actor.

Yep.
Sorry, English isn't my native tongue.

mistymorning
12-22-2009, 09:57 AM
Elvis could have been a great actor! It's too darn bad that the Col. Parker had to interfere.


I agree with you ! I like his acting very much ! You can see talent and charisma in his movies !(y)

debtdbruno
12-22-2009, 09:59 AM
Yeah, but I really wonder if Elvis wouldn't have traded in all the money he made on all of those films for a few better quality movies that he could be more proud of the job he did in them??? :hmm:

TCB!
Mike


That, we can only guess at Mike...............:hmm:

We can blame the Colonel.............but Elvis signed those contracts of his own free will..........

GIORGIA
12-22-2009, 10:46 AM
Yeah, but I really wonder if Elvis wouldn't have traded in all the money he made on all of those films for a few better quality movies that he could be more proud of the job he did in them??? :hmm:

TCB!
Mike
I'm so sure that Elvis would do better quality film.Elvis said that on many interview of the 69'-70' and also on interviews from begin of 60'.

GIORGIA
12-22-2009, 10:56 AM
That, we can only guess at Mike...............:hmm:

We can blame the Colonel.............but Elvis signed those contracts of his own free will..........
As,I write before,I'm so sure,Elvis would do better film.And Elvis not signed those contracts of his own free will,because Jerry Shilling on a commentary from Love Me Tender,said that Elvis was so frustrated and hungry,because he wouldn't do those film,but he was obliged to do that for the contract!And if Elvis was said no,and most of the time,he said no,the others(I think the producers,I don't remember,sorry) said to him:If you don't do this,you're career it's finished,so it's normal that Elvis do that!

Cliff
12-22-2009, 12:02 PM
Yep.
Sorry, English isn't my native tongue.


You mean could have had as an actor.
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Don't worry Frank. English isn't the native tongue of Australians either !! :lol:
I would say most intelligent people would know what you meant. ;)

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Jungleroom76
12-22-2009, 02:09 PM
We can blame the Colonel.............but Elvis signed those contracts of his own free will..........

Technically yes, Elvis signed the contracts of his own free will...

HOWEVER...Elvis was a very trusting (too trusting unfortunately) person and was under the impression that The Colonel had Elvis' best interests at heart when he negotiated those movie contracts for Elvis. Thus I am sure Elvis probably didn't read them as carefully as he should have... :'(

So does that still make Elvis liable? Well he probably should have taken the time to read all of the contracts he signed (looking back now on all that we know about The Colonel), but as I said, Elvis was under the assumption that the deals that The Colonel made were made with Elvis' best interests at heart, which we obviously know now that is not true!!! :cursing:

TCB!
Mike

GIORGIA
12-22-2009, 02:19 PM
Technically yes, Elvis signed the contracts of his own free will...

HOWEVER...Elvis was a very trusting (too trusting unfortunately) person and was under the impression that The Colonel had Elvis' best interests at heart when he negotiated those movie contracts for Elvis. Thus I am sure Elvis probably didn't read them as carefully as he should have... :'(

So does that still make Elvis liable? Well he probably should have taken the time to read all of the contracts he signed (looking back now on all that we know about The Colonel), but as I said, Elvis was under the assumption that the deals that The Colonel made were made with Elvis' best interests at heart, which we obviously know now that is not true!!! :cursing:

TCB!
Mike
You're absolutely right my friend!Is that that I think and I write on my messages!

elvisia
12-22-2009, 03:59 PM
I have all the movies and IMO, Elvis was a very fine actor when ever he was given the chance to show it.

Just some thoughts
I really don`t understand why he wasn`t accepted as an serious actor and why he wasn`t given some more great films, because....I really think he was capable to do almost anything in a great way.
What I do understand is, that Parker wanted and signed him to make films with music so he could earn on both the films and the music at the same time......Well, at first, it might have seemed right to Elvis, but then again......it wasn`t what Elvis wanted in the end.
I don`t know, but maybe....If Elvis have had more serious films, he might have recorded some great music of his own choice in his spare time(More than he actually did). I do like a lot of the moviesongs, but somehow.....I think Elvis would have done something else if he didn`t had to record those songs for the movies, and in the end......he would have been more satisfied with his work.......more proud of what he did, and then it all might have had another outcome......better or worce?....nobody will ever know, and nobody can change anything.
So I just enjoy everything we have, because......It`s ELVIS:D

debtdbruno
12-22-2009, 04:32 PM
Technically yes, Elvis signed the contracts of his own free will...

HOWEVER...Elvis was a very trusting (too trusting unfortunately) person and was under the impression that The Colonel had Elvis' best interests at heart when he negotiated those movie contracts for Elvis. Thus I am sure Elvis probably didn't read them as carefully as he should have... :'(

So does that still make Elvis liable? Well he probably should have taken the time to read all of the contracts he signed (looking back now on all that we know about The Colonel), but as I said, Elvis was under the assumption that the deals that The Colonel made were made with Elvis' best interests at heart, which we obviously know now that is not true!!! :cursing:

TCB!
Mike

Very true Mike, he was too trusting,and should have stood his ground more than he did.
He couldn't be bothered with the 'fine points' or details.........which didn't help his creativity.

mrsphilly
12-22-2009, 05:35 PM
I loved all his movies. They he wanted to go on with better roles. Yes i really liked his acting very much.

cbg84
12-22-2009, 05:51 PM
I agree completely that Elvis was a much better actor than people gave him credit for. But the main reason the critics were so hard on him were because of the quality of the scripts, not so much because of Elvis' acting. I truly believe that if Elvis had received more quality scripts (along the lines of JAILHOUSE ROCK, KING CREOLE & WILD IN THE COUNTRY) that he could have really showed off his acting abilities.

Unfortunately, because Elvis was locked into the endless stream of musicals, most producers and directors wouldn't even look at Elvis for a more dramatic role. Again though, I don't think it was because of Elvis' acting ability...some of the lesser quality movies were only decent because Elvis was the star...but because of the quality of the scripts! :hmm:

TCB!
Mike


totally agree, took the words out of my mouth

Jungleroom76
12-22-2009, 06:21 PM
Very true Mike, he was too trusting,and should have stood his ground more than he did.
He couldn't be bothered with the 'fine points' or details.........which didn't help his creativity.

Very good point Deb... ;)

TCB!
Mike