Elvis Aron was a tad superior than King of Pop Michael Jackson

[Donut]

http://www.newspostonline.com/entertainment/elvis-aron-was-a-tad-superior-then-king-of-pop-michael-jackson-2009110774275



A comparison between the undisputed ‘King of Pop’ Michael Jackson & the ‘King of Rock and Roll’ Elvis Aron Presley is a futile exercise as both stormed into the showbiz and catapulted the music industry to paramount & unparallel heights. Though the debate will rage on forever, following 5 arguments push Presley an inch ahead of Jacko. :-

1. Background- Elvis battled abysmal poverty and rose to stardom like a phoenix rising from the ashes. Michael, despite childhood traumas, was slightly better-off & received immense guidance from his music-enriched family.

2. Geo-political situation- Post World War II , when the world was still reeling under the after-effects of atomic explosion, Elvis broke all social & political barriers by single-handedly pioneering the ‘Rock & Roll culture’ and webbing the globe with a monochord of musical euphoria. Michael, despite his black origin, had it easier as he bloomed at a time when the industry was awaiting a genius to fill in the void left by Presley’s unfathomable los.


3. Female fan-following- Though Jacko stole millions of hearts through his break-dancing nos. , signature ‘moonwalk’ & curly locks, Elvis earned himself an outrageous no. of feminine admirers through his strikingly magnetic looks, mesmerizing charisma & duck-tailed hairstyle.

4. Technology & Media-coverage- Contrary to Michael’s easy access to a flourishing technology & broader media-coverage in the 80’s, Presley had limited resources but still sent ripples of mellifluous euphony across all continents.

5. Scandals & Controversies- Jacko’s scandalous life was plagued with horrors of drug-abuse, charges of child-molestations & allegations of skin-embleachment. Elvis, comparatively, stayed miles away from such stainful scandals.

Conclusion: 32 years after his departure, Elvis-Presley-frenzy continues. 3 decades later, would the Michael-mania survive???

[rickb]

That's about right!

[mozzarella]

I wouldn't make comparisons about the two of them on that level. Of course they had different background but they both were one of their kind. Elvis was more of a down-to-earth human being and he couldn't take himself seriously. I can't remember seeing MJ ironizing about himself or doing a parody of himself. If you ever want to find the one thing that could possibly put Elvis ahead of Michael is exactly that ability. Besides that, Elvis was a masculine presence, a real Royalty. MJ, I'm sorry to say that, but he was not a man - I love him though and I wish he would have lived longer. 'This Is It' is absolutely awsome. But both of them achieved the level of some kind of a 'fictional character' in their lives. Being almost unreal. And that's not given to every artist. They are true legends. My humble opinion...

[May]

A tad superior???:doh:

[Donut]

I wouldn't make comparisons about the two of them on that level.

I think what the person who wrote this article means is you can't compare the two of them, mozzarella.

I wouldn't compare them either, just giving a little thought to this "Elvis broke all social & political barriers by single-handedly pioneering the ‘Rock & Roll culture’ and webbing the globe with a monochord of musical euphoria" makes it pointless.

[kathy parkinson]

A tad superior???:doh:

(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[debtdbruno]

A tad superior???:doh:

Yeh, my thoughts exactly(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

Deb

[Diane]

I think what the person who wrote this article means is you can't compare the two of them, mozzarella.

I wouldn't compare them either, just giving a little thought to this "Elvis broke all social & political barriers by single-handedly pioneering the ‘Rock & Roll culture’ and webbing the globe with a monochord of musical euphoria" makes it pointless.

That's the way I understood it too. Elvis and Michael shouldn't be compared at all, they are two completely different style of artists.

Diane

[Donut]

A tad superior???:doh:

:whistling:;)

[TotallyInsane]

:whistling:;)

Donut -
Did you hear? There's "Good Rocking Tonight"....Teddy is backkkkkkkk!!!!!!!

[Donut]

Donut -
Did you hear? There's "Good Rocking Tonight"....Teddy is backkkkkkkk!!!!!!!

Oh yes, I saw his pawprints on the off topic section the other day http://animalscrazysmiles.pcdingo.net/images/ours.gif

[May]

:whistling:;)

like the new avatar piccy!:D

[TotallyInsane]

like the new avatar piccy!:D

Oh yeah, that's a good one!!

[Donut]

Thank you girls :lol:

[beckelvis]

That's the way I understood it too. Elvis and Michael shouldn't be compared at all, they are two completely different style of artists.

Diane
Totally in agreement with you(y)(y)(y)(y)

[monk37]

Part of the problem is that Elvis continues to not be treated as an artist - but rather as a bottomless ATM machine

I consider Elvis overcame obstacles that were really not faced by other performers - mostly a manager that really didn't understand Elvis' appeal or music, a record label that expected him to be a fad that would fade out as quickly as he became popular

and generally a support team who got while the getting was good


imagine how much Elvis could have done musically if he'd stood up to Parker and RCA and demanded the better treatment that lesser folk expect as their due - only one album a year if not 1 in 2 years, endless studio time to tweak and fiddle with the recordings



It boggles my mind that Elvis was driven enough to get famous, but he never seemed to understand what power and control he could have had over his career

[epmoodyblue]

:blink:ALL Michael Jackson threads are http://www.tcb-world.com/images/smilies/banned.gif in this forum (y)http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/smiley-gen101.gif

[May]

Part of the problem is that Elvis continues to not be treated as an artist - but rather as a bottomless ATM machine

I consider Elvis overcame obstacles that were really not faced by other performers - mostly a manager that really didn't understand Elvis' appeal or music, a record label that expected him to be a fad that would fade out as quickly as he became popular

and generally a support team who got while the getting was good


imagine how much Elvis could have done musically if he'd stood up to Parker and RCA and demanded the better treatment that lesser folk expect as their due - only one album a year if not 1 in 2 years, endless studio time to tweak and fiddle with the recordings



It boggles my mind that Elvis was driven enough to get famous, but he never seemed to understand what power and control he could have had over his career

A very insightful post (y)

[SleepyJack]

Part of the problem is that Elvis continues to not be treated as an artist - but rather as a bottomless ATM machine

I consider Elvis overcame obstacles that were really not faced by other performers - mostly a manager that really didn't understand Elvis' appeal or music, a record label that expected him to be a fad that would fade out as quickly as he became popular

and generally a support team who got while the getting was good


imagine how much Elvis could have done musically if he'd stood up to Parker and RCA and demanded the better treatment that lesser folk expect as their due - only one album a year if not 1 in 2 years, endless studio time to tweak and fiddle with the recordings



It boggles my mind that Elvis was driven enough to get famous, but he never seemed to understand what power and control he could have had over his career

I don`t think that Elvis himself ever really believed in fame and success, I don`t think he ever trusted it to last as long as it did. Looking back at the mistakes and mis-management in Elvis` career always makes you wonder about what could have been,so many things could have been so much better. Maybe the question is Was Elvis happy with the level of success he did achieve...or did he want,and know that there could be,more?

[debtdbruno]

I don't think Elvis really had the best personality to deal with the level of fame he got.
In so many ways he was out of his depth, and also was content to just 'go with the flow'.
He didn't question enough decisions.

[Getlo]

I can't take this article seriously as the author can't even get the title right:

"Elvis Aron was a tad superior then King of Pop Michael Jackson."

[monk37]

I don`t think that Elvis himself ever really believed in fame and success, I don`t think he ever trusted it to last as long as it did. Looking back at the mistakes and mis-management in Elvis` career always makes you wonder about what could have been,so many things could have been so much better. Maybe the question is Was Elvis happy with the level of success he did achieve...or did he want,and know that there could be,more?


Indeed, Elvis didn't seem to be driven by the fame per se

but rather to make enough money to take care of his parents, later, to enjoy himself

he didn't seem to have much use for money, but rather how he could make people happy with it

and he seemed eternally baffled that he got to continue to make it and give people entertainment

he did seem to expect it to dry up and be forgotten


another, how different from today's one or two hit wonders who are confused and self destruct when their fame is fleeting

[monk37]

I don't think Elvis really had the best personality to deal with the level of fame he got.
In so many ways he was out of his depth, and also was content to just 'go with the flow'.
He didn't question enough decisions.

Considering how many celebs do self destruct

I imagine that very few people are able to manage being famous at all

[May]

Indeed, Elvis didn't seem to be driven by the fame per se

but rather to make enough money to take care of his parents, later, to enjoy himself

he didn't seem to have much use for money, but rather how he could make people happy with it

and he seemed eternally baffled that he got to continue to make it and give people entertainment

he did seem to expect it to dry up and be forgotten


another, how different from today's one or two hit wonders who are confused and self destruct when their fame is fleeting


You post some great posts!(y)(y)

[debtdbruno]

Considering how many celebs do self destruct

I imagine that very few people are able to manage being famous at all


I agree, some do self destruct.
However, some go on to set up production comps, directing etc.... they take more control in their career

[debtdbruno]

Indeed, Elvis didn't seem to be driven by the fame per se

but rather to make enough money to take care of his parents, later, to enjoy himself

he didn't seem to have much use for money, but rather how he could make people happy with it

and he seemed eternally baffled that he got to continue to make it and give people entertainment

he did seem to expect it to dry up and be forgotten


another, how different from today's one or two hit wonders who are confused and self destruct when their fame is fleeting

This is well put(y)(y)(y)(y)

[epmoodyblue]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/th_michael-jackson.gif...http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/th_smiley-signs017.gif(n)

[beckelvis]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/th_michael-jackson.gif...http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/th_smiley-signs017.gif(n)
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[monk37]

thanks to folks for their kind comments on my posts.

I post on www.topix.com as Nina. Which is my real first name.


I'll be 42 in January and have been an Elvis fan since I was a kid, and I've read a loooooot of books about him

[SleepyJack]

Great posts Nina.Nice to meet you!:welcome:
I agree that the whole "fame" thing is out of hand at this stage.At least with Elvis the fame came as a result of the music and of his looks and personality... nowadays it seems that the fame is the important thing,then the looks...and the music trails along behind somewhere.What I find odd is that with all the fuss and constant searches and hype...there just don`t seem to be any real "stars" around anymore.

[Diane]

I think Adam Lambert is the closest artist we've had since Elvis to be unique and talented. I don't know if he'll last as long though and be remembered with the same kind of affection that Elvis was and still is.

Diane

[Brian]

I think Adam Lambert is the closest artist we've had since Elvis to be unique and talented. I don't know if he'll last as long though and be remembered with the same kind of affection that Elvis was and still is.

Diane

Adam Lambert is the closest artist we've had to Elvis:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lm fao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmf ao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfa o:

You sound just like that woman named Little Darlin

You and her could at least wait until he puts out a record

[franny]

Adam Lambert is the closest artist we've had to Elvis:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lm fao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmf ao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfa o:

You sound just like that woman named Little Darlin

You and her could at least wait until he puts out a record

Diane has a right to her opinion, Brian. You certainly don't have to agree, but there's no need for all those Lmfao smilies...

Who is Little Darlin? :hmm:

franny

[Brian]

Diane has a right to her opinion, Brian. You certainly don't have to agree, but there's no need for all those Lmfao smilies...

Who is Little Darlin? :hmm:

franny


Little Darlin is the biggest Adam Lambert fan in the whole world

[epmoodyblue]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/th_arguement.gif lookie there forum fight :lol:http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/smiley-gen101.gifhttp://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s52/joe1cooldude/th_icon2.gif

[epmoodyblue]

:doh:. never heard of this person....who is adam lamberthttp://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/smiley-gen101.gifhttp://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s52/joe1cooldude/th_icon2.gif

[franny]

Little Darlin is the biggest Adam Lambert fan in the whole world

I still don't know who that is...is that person a member here or?


:doh:. never heard of this person....who is adam lamberthttp://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/smiley-gen101.gifhttp://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s52/joe1cooldude/th_icon2.gif

Joe, he was on American Idol, but lost...I didn't see it, but that's where he got his start.

Here's a clip.
YouTube- Top 8 Adam Lambert Mad World STUDIO RECORDING Full Version

[epmoodyblue]

I still don't know who that is...is that person a member here or?



Joe, he was on American Idol, but lost...I didn't see it, but that's where he got his start.

Here's a clip.
YouTube- Top 8 Adam Lambert Mad World STUDIO RECORDING Full Version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyyESHqT9a4) ..thanx for info and clip franny apreciate it...http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/th_action-smiley-033.gif http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/smiley-gen101.gifhttp://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s52/joe1cooldude/th_icon2.gif

[monk37]

...What I find odd is that with all the fuss and constant searches and hype...there just don`t seem to be any real "stars" around anymore.

Blame Andy Warhol and his infamous 15 mins quote

Record companies have put together musical acts for a long time, now they just make a tv show out of it

they don't consider long term musical careers - just one hit wonders and get rich quick before the fad changes. Better return on investment for short term than long.

I see shows like American Idol as the vaguely classier Gong Show , but not really by much.

My dad's cousin and her husband saw Elvis in Vegas in the early 70's.

The husband was telling me about how he always hated Elvis (partly jealousy). but when they saw the concert he said that it was unlike anything else.

Even before he came on stage, you knew he was about it - it was like a charisma wave preceeded Elvis.

and the hubby came out of the show a bigger fan than his wife

he said that Elvis had a real unearthly beauty that photos really do not capture - and it didn't matter what gender or orientation you were - you were attracted to Elvis like no other person.

What was interesting was that I was told the concert story in the mid 90s and the sort of rapture expression that overcame his face as he told me

20+ years after the concert, you could see he was still affected by seeing Elvis in person.

[franny]

..thanx for info and clip franny apreciate it...http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/th_action-smiley-033.gif http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/smiley-gen101.gifhttp://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s52/joe1cooldude/th_icon2.gif

You're welcome, Joe. (y) It's good to see you back! :clap:

franny

[Brian]

I still don't know who that is...is that person a member here or?


She use to be a member here

[debtdbruno]

Blame Andy Warhol and his infamous 15 mins quote

Record companies have put together musical acts for a long time, now they just make a tv show out of it

they don't consider long term musical careers - just one hit wonders and get rich quick before the fad changes. Better return on investment for short term than long.

I see shows like American Idol as the vaguely classier Gong Show , but not really by much.

My dad's cousin and her husband saw Elvis in Vegas in the early 70's.

The husband was telling me about how he always hated Elvis (partly jealousy). but when they saw the concert he said that it was unlike anything else.

Even before he came on stage, you knew he was about it - it was like a charisma wave preceeded Elvis.

and the hubby came out of the show a bigger fan than his wife

he said that Elvis had a real unearthly beauty that photos really do not capture - and it didn't matter what gender or orientation you were - you were attracted to Elvis like no other person.

What was interesting was that I was told the concert story in the mid 90s and the sort of rapture expression that overcame his face as he told me

20+ years after the concert, you could see he was still affected by seeing Elvis in person.

LOVE THAT STORY:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notw orthy
There will never be another like him................

[SleepyJack]

Adam Lambert is the closest artist we've had to Elvis:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lm fao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmf ao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfa o:

You sound just like that woman named Little Darlin

You and her could at least wait until he puts out a record

And you could be a bit more respectful of other people`s opinions,that was uncalled for.

[Brian]

And you could be a bit more respectful of other people`s opinions,that was uncalled for.

mind your business Sleepy Jack

[Sonny]

Jack, please be the wiser party here and leave it at this, why, because I think you will.

My best,
Sonny

[May]

LOVE THAT STORY:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notw orthy
There will never be another like him................

Great story! Agree with you Deb(y)

[monk37]

thanks Deb and May

another story I thought was astonishing is

Elvis played Vancouver in 1957

a couple of years ago, they tore down the Empire Stadium - this had been the home of our football team, many concerts, including the Beatles in 64 - and host to a lot of school and community events


but, in 2007, when it was torn down - people protested the destruction carrying signs that read "You're tearing down the King's stage"


no one protested for all the other stuff that had been a big part of the city

but a 50 years ago performance and only a 20 min performance (Elvis famously had to leave the stage early and running because the crowd rushed the stage

and that's why people who weren't even born in 57 were protesting and upset over the stadium's destruction

[debtdbruno]

Because he's The King, he always will be, he's Unique.........and he had a way of touching you're very soul........

He was and is very special to many, many people who care about 'still' protecting his memory......