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lvs2day
11-03-2009, 11:11 AM
do you believe maybe that in the last couple years of his life that he was questioning his friends loyalty i 'm sure he did throughout his life but especially durring the last couple years because of the wests firing/book, and from what billy smith said E.P. was going to get rid of others like joe because of the raquetball courts fiasco etc , so what do you think believe was he going to make some serious changes?
debtdbruno
11-03-2009, 11:17 AM
who knows..........que sera sera..........
He seems to question loyalty all his life, from friends, women etc....
The EWH book wouldn't have helped, but he wouldn't listen. If his Dad or Priscilla couldn't get through to him, nobody could
GIORGIA
11-03-2009, 11:35 AM
Why?
For Me,
because finally for Him,
Understand truly what persons He had around!
Because He deserved the Best!
piretos
11-03-2009, 11:37 AM
who knows..........que sera sera..........
He seems to question loyalty all his life, from friends, women etc....
The EWH book wouldn't have helped, but he wouldn't listen. If his Dad or Priscilla couldn't get through to him, nobody could
I second that(y)
Jungleroom76
11-03-2009, 01:29 PM
Well let's remember that the firing of the West's and Dave Hebler was initiated by Elvis' Dad and The Colonel. They were concerned with all the lawsuits and trouble that were being brought against Elvis because of them and both The Colonel and Vernon felt it was in Elvis' best interest to let them go. Had it not been for them initiating that whole situation, I don't know as if Elvis would have let those guys go.
As for the other guys around him, there were certainly enough people there simply to ride the Elvis gravy train that it would have probably saved Elvis lots of money to let those guys go, both in salaries and gifts that he bought them. But considering those guys were basically "Yes men" for Elvis and would do anything he asked them to do, I highly doubt if he would have ever let them go either. :hmm:
Certainly there were PLENTY of people around Elvis that could have been jettisoned and he would have been all the better for it, in my opinion.
TCB!
Mike
debtdbruno
11-03-2009, 01:37 PM
That's very true Mike
Diane
11-03-2009, 02:06 PM
Well let's remember that the firing of the West's and Dave Hebler was initiated by Elvis' Dad and The Colonel. They were concerned with all the lawsuits and trouble that were being brought against Elvis because of them and both The Colonel and Vernon felt it was in Elvis' best interest to let them go. Had it not been for them initiating that whole situation, I don't know as if Elvis would have let those guys go.
As for the other guys around him, there were certainly enough people there simply to ride the Elvis gravy train that it would have probably saved Elvis lots of money to let those guys go, both in salaries and gifts that he bought them. But considering those guys were basically "Yes men" for Elvis and would do anything he asked them to do, I highly doubt if he would have ever let them go either. :hmm:
Certainly there were PLENTY of people around Elvis that could have been jettisoned and he would have been all the better for it, in my opinion.
TCB!
Mike
I sure agree with that too Mike.
Diane
GIORGIA
11-03-2009, 02:12 PM
But considering those guys were basically "Yes men" for Elvis and would do anything he asked them to do
TCB!
Mike
You right my friend!
And for me this are not be a truly friends,no?
GIORGIA
11-03-2009, 02:14 PM
Well let's remember that the firing of the West's and Dave Hebler was initiated by Elvis' Dad and The Colonel.
TCB!
Mike
You are absolutely right!
And for me it's was a good thing!
Are do this a lot of time before!
My opinion of course.
Genie
11-03-2009, 04:06 PM
do you believe maybe that in the last couple years of his life that he was questioning his friends loyalty i 'm sure he did throughout his life but especially durring the last couple years because of the wests firing/book, and from what billy smith said E.P. was going to get rid of others like joe because of the raquetball courts fiasco etc , so what do you think believe was he going to make some serious changes?
:blink:
Oh for sure! He was about as hurt and mad at some of those so called friends as anyone could be.. I think some had contracts, he would either have bought out, to end them or when they were up, out the door they'd fly!
He deserved so much better than he got.
If you think about it, his own family took him to the cleaners. It had to be a terrible feeling of being deserted, lied to, lied about, and all he wanted was Love, both to give and receive. Larry Geller gave him an honest faithful friendship which helped him greatly. I notice the MM tried their best to get rid of Larry. It's such a heartbreaking thought to know he very much was aware of the attitude and mindset of those around him.
debtdbruno
11-03-2009, 04:11 PM
He was nobody's fool...........
Someone who can read and understand 'The Prophet', Scientific Search for the Face of Jesus' etc....is a very astute, intelligent person.
asian1
11-03-2009, 05:33 PM
Cosidering Elvis' Christian background, really can't understand his fascination with Geller's introduction of mysticism. Unless Elvis was uncertain and confused and kept searching for answers he could not find. The hangers on that surrounded him certainly did not help matters but line their own pockets with money.
Sweet_One_E.
11-03-2009, 06:15 PM
yeh, elvis was pretty stupid when picking out friends
Getlo
11-04-2009, 04:53 AM
He was nobody's fool...........
Someone who can read and understand 'The Prophet', Scientific Search for the Face of Jesus' etc....is a very astute, intelligent person.
Have you actually read either of these? ;)
Getlo
11-04-2009, 04:59 AM
He was about as hurt and mad at some of those so called friends as anyone could be.. I think some had contracts, he would either have bought out, to end them or when they were up, out the door they'd fly!
He deserved so much better than he got.
Oh, yes.
Poor, poor Elvis.
Choosing childhood and school friends who stuck with him through thick and thin ... only for them to be fired by his dad for trumped up reasons because Elvis didn't have the guts to face them himself.
Elvis may have been hurt, but as for anger ... he got over it. The telephone call with Red is testament to that. There is no malice or anger whatsoever in Elvis' voice (drug slurring notwithstanding).
Had Elvis lived, he would have taken them back (with the exception of Hebler) and all would have been back to normal.
Elvis deserved good friends who stood by him. That's exactly what he got. One indiscretion - even one at the very end of a life and of such magnitude - is no reason to wipe such long friendships, and no excuse for fans to hate the MM. None whatsoever.
And had the message of EWH got through to Elvis in time ... had he lived and got himself together and free of drugs - then Sonny and Red would be hailed as heroes today.
Getlo
11-04-2009, 05:14 AM
While I'm on this rant ...
It's the blinding hypocrisy of a certain element of the Elvis fans that really gets my goat.
Elvis took drugs. Those fans forgive him because ... "he was only human", they say.
Elvis screwed around on Cilla and every other chick he was with ... because he was human.
Elvis forced himself on Cilla in Vegas when she finally told him she'd be leaving ... no one says much about that, do they?
Elvis screwed his cousin's wife ... (a "sin" infinitely worse than writing a tell-all book, IMO) ... but all is forgiven.
Every other mistake is forgiven by certain fans, almost like he was some sort of saint. Oh, the pressures of being "ELVIS". He was only human.
Red, Sonny and Dave (most arguably) wrote EWH out of revenge and anger ... two very human emotions.
But the blinded fans, who take Elvis' "cause" up for themselves, are utterly incapable of offering the boys the same leeway as their King. Why is that, I wonder?
Revenge, anger ... human emotions. So why no forgiveness?
As I have said countless times, there is nothing - NOTHING! - in EWH that wasn't true.
And if Elvis had lived and taken the boys back, those same fans who now waste time hating them would've gone along with the King and forgiven them. Those fans wouldn't dare do or say anything contrary to the gospel of Elvis Presley, would they? Oh, no ... that would be heresy.
/ rant off
Donut
11-04-2009, 06:39 AM
I believe Elvis (although seemed to be a good person) only wanted people around him that he could control and follow him in everything he did, so maybe his friends were 'yes men' but I don't think Elvis would have allowed them to be any other way.
debtdbruno
11-04-2009, 07:26 AM
He was nobody's fool...........
Someone who can read and understand 'The Prophet', Scientific Search for the Face of Jesus' etc....is a very astute, intelligent person.
Have you actually read either of these? ;)
No Getlo I havn't read them. Have you? Maybe wrongly, but I'm assuming they are very deep encompassing books that are way above my head to understand.
debtdbruno
11-04-2009, 07:29 AM
While I'm on this rant ...
It's the blinding hypocrisy of a certain element of the Elvis fans that really gets my goat.
Elvis took drugs. Those fans forgive him because ... "he was only human", they say.
Elvis screwed around on Cilla and every other chick he was with ... because he was human.
Elvis forced himself on Cilla in Vegas when she finally told him she'd be leaving ... no one says much about that, do they?
Elvis screwed his cousin's wife ... (a "sin" infinitely worse than writing a tell-all book, IMO) ... but all is forgiven.
Every other mistake is forgiven by certain fans, almost like he was some sort of saint. Oh, the pressures of being "ELVIS". He was only human.
Red, Sonny and Dave (most arguably) wrote EWH out of revenge and anger ... two very human emotions.
But the blinded fans, who take Elvis' "cause" up for themselves, are utterly incapable of offering the boys the same leeway as their King. Why is that, I wonder?
Revenge, anger ... human emotions. So why no forgiveness?
As I have said countless times, there is nothing - NOTHING! - in EWH that wasn't true.
And if Elvis had lived and taken the boys back, those same fans who now waste time hating them would've gone along with the King and forgiven them. Those fans wouldn't dare do or say anything contrary to the gospel of Elvis Presley, would they? Oh, no ... that would be heresy.
/ rant off
You are very blunt...........but very honest.
I do agree with your points, he was selfish and spoilt. He was Human, and he did things which were unacceptable.
However, as he said...........'Walk a mile in my shoes'.
None of us have the faintest idea what it was like to 'be' Elvis.
SleepyJack
11-04-2009, 07:39 AM
While I'm on this rant ...
It's the blinding hypocrisy of a certain element of the Elvis fans that really gets my goat.
Elvis took drugs. Those fans forgive him because ... "he was only human", they say.
Elvis screwed around on Cilla and every other chick he was with ... because he was human.
Elvis forced himself on Cilla in Vegas when she finally told him she'd be leaving ... no one says much about that, do they?
Elvis screwed his cousin's wife ... (a "sin" infinitely worse than writing a tell-all book, IMO) ... but all is forgiven.
Every other mistake is forgiven by certain fans, almost like he was some sort of saint. Oh, the pressures of being "ELVIS". He was only human.
Red, Sonny and Dave (most arguably) wrote EWH out of revenge and anger ... two very human emotions.
But the blinded fans, who take Elvis' "cause" up for themselves, are utterly incapable of offering the boys the same leeway as their King. Why is that, I wonder?
Revenge, anger ... human emotions. So why no forgiveness?
As I have said countless times, there is nothing - NOTHING! - in EWH that wasn't true.
And if Elvis had lived and taken the boys back, those same fans who now waste time hating them would've gone along with the King and forgiven them. Those fans wouldn't dare do or say anything contrary to the gospel of Elvis Presley, would they? Oh, no ... that would be heresy.
/ rant off
While I understand the point that you are trying to make,and I would never question your knowledge on the subject of Elvis Presley you...well...you don`t seem to actually like him very much do you?
monk37
11-04-2009, 07:56 PM
Elvis had let people go throughout the years, when he thought they were stealing or just around for the handouts.
I do think Elvis would have let Joe go over the raquetball courts
and if the West boys hadn't written the book, they probably would have been hired back
It's too bad the book didn't come out sooner and Elvis paid attention to it and used it as a springboard to clean up
but, that was a different era - before Betty Ford clinics, before celebrities shared their additions and childhood abuse experiences as if they were badges of honour (as opposed to raising awareness over these painful realities)
Getlo
11-05-2009, 05:07 AM
No Getlo I havn't read them. Have you? Maybe wrongly, but I'm assuming they are very deep encompassing books that are way above my head to understand.
Yes, I've read them.
The Prophet is airy-fairy feel-good nonsense, typical of the Johnathan Livingston Seagull crap of the time.
The face of Jesus one is also nonsense, especially seeing as the Shroud of Turin was proven a fake ages ago.
Getlo
11-05-2009, 05:09 AM
While I understand the point that you are trying to make,and I would never question your knowledge on the subject of Elvis Presley you...well...you don`t seem to actually like him very much do you?
On the contrary, I like Elvis very much. Always have.
Despite his many, many faults.
I just don't sugarcoat my admiration for him with God-like status, nor do I waste time with negative energy towards those who allegedly did "wrong" by him.
beckelvis
11-05-2009, 05:17 AM
who knows..........que sera sera..........
He seems to question loyalty all his life, from friends, women etc....
The EWH book wouldn't have helped, but he wouldn't listen. If his Dad or Priscilla couldn't get through to him, nobody could
Agree(y)(y)(y)
SleepyJack
11-05-2009, 07:24 AM
On the contrary, I like Elvis very much. Always have.
Despite his many, many faults.
I just don't sugarcoat my admiration for him with God-like status, nor do I waste time with negative energy towards those who allegedly did "wrong" by him.
Oh, okay then!..... C`mon so....give us a hug....:hug::hug::hug:
Well let's remember that the firing of the West's and Dave Hebler was initiated by Elvis' Dad and The Colonel. They were concerned with all the lawsuits and trouble that were being brought against Elvis because of them and both The Colonel and Vernon felt it was in Elvis' best interest to let them go. Had it not been for them initiating that whole situation, I don't know as if Elvis would have let those guys go.
As for the other guys around him, there were certainly enough people there simply to ride the Elvis gravy train that it would have probably saved Elvis lots of money to let those guys go, both in salaries and gifts that he bought them. But considering those guys were basically "Yes men" for Elvis and would do anything he asked them to do, I highly doubt if he would have ever let them go either. :hmm:
Certainly there were PLENTY of people around Elvis that could have been jettisoned and he would have been all the better for it, in my opinion.
TCB!
Mike
Thats a very good point actually Mike. Some fans dont forgive the Wests & Hebler for E:WH. And others say (including Sonny himself) they should forgive them because they only did it out of bitterness because they were fired without much (if any ?) notice.
The question then is, why were they fired at all? Because of the law suits. but then that surely raises the question, why didnt Vernon or the colonel warn them that would be the likely outcome should they continue to manhandle fans. My guess is Vernon looked to Col for guidance on such matters, Elvis didnt want to deal with hiring and firing (unless he was angry :angry: at someone and doing it in the heat of the moment, and then :'( rehiring them):blush:, and the Colonel wasnt that keen on all the MM anyway.
gosh, this could be discussed forever I suppose. Lots of ifs, whys and maybes. Interesting topic though.:)
Genie
12-02-2009, 11:04 PM
Why are you always so overly emotional in your posts Getlo..we are all fans here.
sasha
12-03-2009, 08:20 AM
Personally, I'd hate to believe that my "friends" would make money telling all my secrets after I died.
Especially when they were doing the same things as me.;)
The world of Elvis is a strange place. If one grows bitter; it's time to take a break for a bit.
Allow others to enjoy what they can't anymore.
Sweet_One_E.
12-03-2009, 10:50 AM
and no one here knows exactly what Elvis was like to live with day in and day out. seems like the whole thing was unstable. seems like a hard way of life to work for him and be at his call 24/7. as for the perks, Elvis wanted it that way. how many of them are rich right now?? probably Jerry Schilling because he has been on the Presley gravy train his whole life. but most don't have a problem with that. like Getlo, I am confused by double standards I have read on this board.
sasha
12-03-2009, 12:03 PM
and no one here knows exactly what Elvis was like to live with day in and day out. seems like the whole thing was unstable. seems like a hard way of life to work for him and be at his call 24/7. as for the perks, Elvis wanted it that way. how many of them are rich right now?? probably Jerry Schilling because he has been on the Presley gravy train his whole life. but most don't have a problem with that. like Getlo, I am confused by double standards I have read on this board.
I will try one time to explain how I personally feel.
I am a loyal friend & expect my friends to be the same.
None of us know what Elvis or any of his "friends" lives were like.
There are no double standards on any Elvis message site, IMO.
If a site is about Elvis; one should expect Elvis fans that love him to be here.
If anyone wants to talk trash about him; perhaps they'd be happier at another site.
This is not to be inflamatory . Just my personal opinion. :)
debtdbruno
12-03-2009, 12:16 PM
and no one here knows exactly what Elvis was like to live with day in and day out. seems like the whole thing was unstable. seems like a hard way of life to work for him and be at his call 24/7. as for the perks, Elvis wanted it that way. how many of them are rich right now?? probably Jerry Schilling because he has been on the Presley gravy train his whole life. but most don't have a problem with that. like Getlo, I am confused by double standards I have read on this board.
I love the Man to bits...........however, IMO, I think he would have been a difficult person to live with. It was all on his terms whatever, and however he wanted it. Yes, he was the 'Star', but he was also spoilt and selfish. Surely no body can deny that on here???
We've all heard the stories of when Elvis laughed, everyone laughed too.......if he was in a foul mood, everyone kept a low profile till he snapped out of it........
Then again, he walked the walk before anyone else..........
He led such a sheltered/closet existance.must have been very frustrating at times
While I'm on this rant ...
It's the blinding hypocrisy of a certain element of the Elvis fans that really gets my goat.
Elvis took drugs. Those fans forgive him because ... "he was only human", they say.
Elvis screwed around on Cilla and every other chick he was with ... because he was human.
Elvis forced himself on Cilla in Vegas when she finally told him she'd be leaving ... no one says much about that, do they?
Elvis screwed his cousin's wife ... (a "sin" infinitely worse than writing a tell-all book, IMO) ... but all is forgiven.
Every other mistake is forgiven by certain fans, almost like he was some sort of saint. Oh, the pressures of being "ELVIS". He was only human.
Red, Sonny and Dave (most arguably) wrote EWH out of revenge and anger ... two very human emotions.
But the blinded fans, who take Elvis' "cause" up for themselves, are utterly incapable of offering the boys the same leeway as their King. Why is that, I wonder?
Revenge, anger ... human emotions. So why no forgiveness?
As I have said countless times, there is nothing - NOTHING! - in EWH that wasn't true.
And if Elvis had lived and taken the boys back, those same fans who now waste time hating them would've gone along with the King and forgiven them. Those fans wouldn't dare do or say anything contrary to the gospel of Elvis Presley, would they? Oh, no ... that would be heresy.
/ rant off
I agree with much of what you say-and I will try to answer your question of why some fans have trouble with the forgiveness end of your equation.
Its true all of the people you mention including Elvis are human-they all make mistakes and have faults but none of the people (Red, Sonny, Hebler, Priscilla etc..) have the charisma that Elvis had..... and that charisma sways people.
I would venture a guess that 99% of the people close to Elvis would have ever been known beyond their hometown-if not for Elvis.
None of them had this charisma which just draws people to them with only a good feeling inside for them.
Elvis has/had this- a special talent and charisma which does affect people...... so they are easily willing to forgive him, and less willing to forgive those who would not have been known-if for not the talent/charisma of Elvis.
I will admit it is not fair-but it is the nature of charisma.
The final factor I think is that even though many of the MM were close friends of Elvis-they were not indispensible.... all could be replaced and were literally only close because they were in the right places at the right time to become a friend............many fans probably see the only thing which could not be replaced in the equation was Elvis..... It all centers around him, all revolved in his universe of charisma and talent.
I will agree it is not right-everyone is human, everyone makes mistakes and the same rules should apply to all................but its never really worked that way.
I have always tried to understand what makes people act and react as they do-but admit charisma does blind people-but we're only human;):D:D
sasha
12-03-2009, 12:41 PM
I love the Man to bits...........however, IMO, I think he would have been a difficult person to live with. It was all on his terms whatever, and however he wanted it. Yes, he was the 'Star', but he was also spoilt and selfish. Surely no body can deny that on here???
We've all heard the stories of when Elvis laughed, everyone laughed too.......if he was in a foul mood, everyone kept a low profile till he snapped out of it........
Then again, he walked the walk before anyone else..........
He led such a sheltered/closet existance.must have been very frustrating at times
I agree on this too. There's no way I'd have put up with any of them. ;)
I just don't sugarcoat my admiration for him with God-like status, nor do I waste time with negative energy towards those who allegedly did "wrong" by him.
yeah you sure don't cos ya'r to busy wasting yer time with negative energy towards Elvis... and what would we know without you Getlo??:hmm::hmm: not much i assume :doh:
I believe Elvis (although seemed to be a good person) only wanted people around him that he could control and follow him in everything he did, so maybe his friends were 'yes men' but I don't think Elvis would have allowed them to be any other way.
I think Elvis had little contact with anything except yes men for most of his career-but when he had a real respect for someone he seemed to listen.
Marty Pasetta told him he was overweight and needed to lose 20 pounds for the Aloha special-he did not sugarcoat the situation and according to Pasetta Elvis hugged him and thanked him for the honesty.
Binder told Elvis to step outside the Burbank studio and see what happens-and Elvis was stunned that he was not instantly noticed-making the point to Elvis that the world was changing and Elvis needed to make some changes himself-which gave Elvis a healthy respect for Binder, to stand against Parker in the 68 specials format.
I honestly wonder what his life and direction would have been with individuals who did not answer always yes yes yes-good show good show.:hmm:
Donut
12-03-2009, 01:06 PM
I think Elvis had little contact with anything except yes men for most of his career-but when he had a real respect for someone he seemed to listen.
Marty Pasetta told him he was overweight and needed to lose 20 pounds for the Aloha special-he did not sugarcoat the situation and according to Pasetta Elvis hugged him and thanked him for the honesty.
Binder told Elvis to step outside the Burbank studio and see what happens-and Elvis was stunned that he was not instantly noticed-making the point to Elvis that the world was changing and Elvis needed to make some changes himself-which gave Elvis a healthy respect for Binder, to stand against Parker in the 68 specials format.
I honestly wonder what his life and direction would have been with individuals who did not answer always yes yes yes-good show good show.:hmm:
That would have been really good for him but like I said, KPM, I don't think Elvis wanted people like that in his inner circle.
That would have been really good for him but like I said, KPM, I don't think Elvis wanted people like that in his inner circle.
Well we all want that comfort zone-and its not always the best for our lives and interests.
When you have yes men-or someone who always agrees with you -you may like the situation-but have little respect for them or their opinions and can often dismiss anything they say.
It just seems odd that the few times you hear about people leveling with him-he seems to be happy for the honesty............to me that says something.
GIORGIA
12-03-2009, 01:13 PM
While I'm on this rant ...
It's the blinding hypocrisy of a certain element of the Elvis fans that really gets my goat.
Elvis took drugs. Those fans forgive him because ... "he was only human", they say.
Elvis screwed around on Cilla and every other chick he was with ... because he was human.
Elvis forced himself on Cilla in Vegas when she finally told him she'd be leaving ... no one says much about that, do they?
Elvis screwed his cousin's wife ... (a "sin" infinitely worse than writing a tell-all book, IMO) ... but all is forgiven.
Every other mistake is forgiven by certain fans, almost like he was some sort of saint. Oh, the pressures of being "ELVIS". He was only human.
Red, Sonny and Dave (most arguably) wrote EWH out of revenge and anger ... two very human emotions.
But the blinded fans, who take Elvis' "cause" up for themselves, are utterly incapable of offering the boys the same leeway as their King. Why is that, I wonder?
Revenge, anger ... human emotions. So why no forgiveness?
As I have said countless times, there is nothing - NOTHING! - in EWH that wasn't true.
And if Elvis had lived and taken the boys back, those same fans who now waste time hating them would've gone along with the King and forgiven them. Those fans wouldn't dare do or say anything contrary to the gospel of Elvis Presley, would they? Oh, no ... that would be heresy.
/ rant off
Hi Getlo,
I tell you somenthing,that for Me it's So Hard been objective about Elvis!
Because I Love Him Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo Much!
Of course I know and understand that Him like everyone else,had mistakes,down moments ecc...................as you say,but it's difficult for Me tell a bad thing about Elvis!
Of course I believe that you love too Our Elvis,infact the difference is that you are a lot more objective than Me!
I admit!
With the other people that was with Elvis I have the objective but with Elvis no!
Sorry if It's this for Me!
Donut
12-03-2009, 01:26 PM
Well we all want that comfort zone-and its not always the best for our lives and interests.
When you have yes men-or someone who always agrees with you -you may like the situation-but have little respect for them or their opinions and can often dismiss anything they say.
It just seems odd that the few times you hear about people leveling with him-he seems to be happy for the honesty............to me that says something.
Yes, it can seem odd but Elvis (like the rest of us) was a complex individual. He seemed to take in a good way the advice from the movie and music business professionals even from Parker but at home, HIS home, it was another story. We all have read about his confrontations with the guys, his father and Priscilla. Maybe he needed it to be that way because it was the only place where he could have control of his life...
debtdbruno
12-03-2009, 01:44 PM
Yes, it can seem odd but Elvis (like the rest of us) was a complex individual. He seemed to take in a good way the advice from the movie and music business professionals even from Parker but at home, HIS home, it was another story. We all have read about his confrontations with the guys, his father and Priscilla. Maybe he needed it to be that way because it was the only place where he could have control of his life...
that's so true.........but he should have had that power/control in his career as well. The biggest entertainer in history cowtailing to people,.... it's wierd!!
Donut
12-03-2009, 01:49 PM
that's so true.........but he should have had that power/control in his career as well. The biggest entertainer in history cowtailing to people,.... it's wierd!!
Yeah, it's weird. In my opinion he felt he was inferior to that people, he was completely wrong :blink:.
Merry
12-03-2009, 02:04 PM
With all due respect:
Please remember, the books are sold to make money.
I recommend that people go onto the site where Marty Lacker writes and read how he, very sadly, has become embittered.
We know how the world is driven, it's driven by money, dollars.
One big lesson I've learned, is to not be naive!
We would have to be naive, to not realise that situations are changed by the writer, to sell the book.
Nothing is confirmed by what has been negatively written.
I know for a fact, from one who journalled situations, (FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE) that things didn't pan out as written, a lot of the time.
It's like a movie, situations are changed to make it more "interesting".
Anyway, I have something, that is very important:
YouTube- George Harrison sings ISN'T IT A PITY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aoyWoO28Fc)
Isn't it a pity
Now, isn't it a shame
How we break each other's hearts
And cause each other pain
How we take each other's love
Without thinking anymore
Forgetting to give back
Isn't it a pity
Some things take so long
But how do I explain
When not too many people
Can see we're all the same
And because of all their tears
Their eyes can't hope to see
The beauty that surrounds them
Isn't it a pity
Isn't it a pity
Isn't is a shame
How we break each other's hearts
And cause each other pain
How we take each other's love
Without thinking anymore
Forgetting to give back
Isn't it a pity
Forgetting to give back
Isn't it a pity
Forgetting to give back
Now, isn't it a pity
What a pity
What a pity, pity, pity
What a pity
What a pity, pity, pity
(http://www.ringtonematcher.com/co/ringtonematcher/02/noc.asp?sid=LDOMros&artist=George+Harrison)
With all due respect:
Please remember, the books are sold to make money.
I recommend that people go onto the site where Marty Lacker writes and read how he, very sadly, has become embittered.
We know how the world is driven, it's driven by money, dollars.
One big lesson I've learned, is to not be naive!
We would have to be naive, to not realise that situations are changed by the writer, to sell the book.
Nothing is confirmed by what has been negatively written.
I know for a fact, from one who journalled situations, (FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE) that things didn't pan out as written, a lot of the time.
It's like a movie, situations are changed to make it more "interesting".
Anyway, I have something, that is very important:
YouTube- George Harrison sings ISN'T IT A PITY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aoyWoO28Fc)
Isn't it a pity
Now, isn't it a shame
How we break each other's hearts
And cause each other pain
How we take each other's love
Without thinking anymore
Forgetting to give back
Isn't it a pity
Some things take so long
But how do I explain
When not too many people
Can see we're all the same
And because of all their tears
Their eyes can't hope to see
The beauty that surrounds them
Isn't it a pity
Isn't it a pity
Isn't is a shame
How we break each other's hearts
And cause each other pain
How we take each other's love
Without thinking anymore
Forgetting to give back
Isn't it a pity
Forgetting to give back
Isn't it a pity
Forgetting to give back
Now, isn't it a pity
What a pity
What a pity, pity, pity
What a pity
What a pity, pity, pity
(http://www.ringtonematcher.com/co/ringtonematcher/02/noc.asp?sid=LDOMros&artist=George+Harrison)
it's a great deal of pity (n)(n)(n)
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