View Full Version : Which of Lisa Maries songs do you think Elvis would have liked?
G-Man
09-26-2009, 06:11 PM
I am wandering from the 2 albums lisa Marie has done which song would Elvis had liked alot? And do ya'll think he would have helped her with some of her music? Your Elvis friend Gerald!!
Brian
09-26-2009, 06:18 PM
Elvis would probably tell Lisa to her face that he liked her songs but secretly he wouldn't like any of them
If Elvis didn't like Bob Dylan's singing he wouldn't like LMP.
plus her songs have that 90's rock sound and Elvis didn't even like the 70's rock sound so he definately wouldn't like the 90's rock sound.
Merry
09-26-2009, 06:38 PM
Elvis would probably tell Lisa to her face that he liked her songs but secretly he wouldn't like any of them
If Elvis didn't like Bob Dylan's singing he wouldn't like LMP.
plus her songs have that 90's rock sound and Elvis didn't even like the 70's rock sound so he definately wouldn't like the 90's rock sound.
Oh Brian :doh: Another "famous" :blink: Marty Lacker "comment" you are quoting. :supriced:
Lisa is great, besides Elvis having adored her, some of us (me) loves her more recent stage persona, her freedom, her sense of humour, I could quite easily laugh my head off in her company. Same as Pink, they are fun women (y)
Lisa has a lot of great songs (y):D:D:D
Perhaps Elvis may have liked a song with some attitude, lol. "I d i o t"
People can sink into Lisa's lyrics, they are deep, full of feeling and meaning. (y)
Brian
09-26-2009, 06:50 PM
Oh Brian :doh: Another "famous" :blink: Marty Lacker "comment" you are quoting. :supriced:
Lisa is great, besides Elvis having adored her, some of us (me) loves her more recent stage persona, her freedom, her sense of humour, I could quite easily laugh my head off in her company. Same as Pink, they are fun women (y)
Lisa has a lot of great songs (y):D:D:D
Perhaps Elvis may have liked a song with some attitude, lol. "I d i o t"
People can sink into Lisa's lyrics, they are deep, full of feeling and meaning. (y)
No, this has nothing to do with him.
I know Elvis didn't like the harder rock groups from the 70's
I got that from the fact that none are in his record collection
If Elvis did have some hard rock bands in his collection than it might be different.
A lot of people don't like Bob Dylan's singing voice including me and Lisa's reminds me of his in some ways.
I bet Elvis didn't like Bob Dylan's actual singing because it tends to annoy people.
If Bob Dylan had a better singing voice he could've been the biggest singer in the history of the world same with LMP.
Why would it be a bad thing that Elvis didn't like his daughters singing or songs.
Elvis was from an entirely different generation
Pacerstar
09-26-2009, 06:51 PM
I honestly haven't listened to Lisa's cds enough to speculate on a song that Elvis would
have liked. I do think that because it is Lisa, he would have tried to like whatever she
did. I do think he would have helped her with her music. And, I like to think that if he
had lived and she had pursued a music career, it would have been more in line with the
type of music that he did. I like to think that; but, I know the young don't always follow
in their elder's footsteps. One more thought, if he had lived and she had pursued her own
musical direction, perhaps she would have influenced him more into her kind of music!!! That could have been a good thing, or not!!!
Merry
09-26-2009, 07:09 PM
No, this has nothing to do with him.
I know Elvis didn't like the harder rock groups from the 70's
I got that from the fact that none are in his record collection
Brian, didn't the really good ones only just start appearing in 1977. AC/DC for instance, 1973 - but may have taken a while to be known in The States, lol (y) :D (Aussie bands, lol, rofl :D:lmfao:).
A lot of people don't like Bob Dylan's singing voice including me and Lisa's reminds me of his in some ways.
I bet Elvis didn't like Bob Dylan's actual singing because it tends to annoy people.
I'm not fussed on Dylan, either, yet I love Lisa (y)
If Bob Dylan had a better singing voice he could've been the biggest singer in the history of the world same with LMP.
Why would it be a bad thing that Elvis didn't like his daughters singing or songs.
Elvis was from an entirely different generation
Cause in my opinion, it's impossible - parents love their kids and should support them, in their interests. It's a bonus that Lisa happens to be very talented. If Lisa came to Aussie again - I'd be there (y)
Unchained Melody
09-26-2009, 07:57 PM
She is his daughter I'm sure he would've told it its great but inside thought what the ---- :blush:
TCB4ELVIS
09-26-2009, 08:03 PM
Maybe the remake of Dirty Laundry but It's really a tough question to answer cause I could see Elvis admiring her efforts but he also had such a sensitive ear to music. He'd stop the band at times when a part was off or the tempo was too fast or slow. If anything, with his polite way of not hurting her feelings he might have told her, he didn't get the current music sound. but then again, Elvis might have coached her or have Charlie do it but in all honesty, I really think her carrying out a tune abilities came from her mother's side of the family. Elvis had a such a natural smoothness about him that I don't hear in Lisa.
Elvis was a purist.He appreciated truly great vocals.One spin of a Lisa Marie cd and he would have pulled out his 45 colt and wasted it.
Having said that,I actually like some of her stuff.
Brian
09-26-2009, 09:44 PM
Brian, didn't the really good ones only just start appearing in 1977. AC/DC for instance, 1973 - but may have taken a while to be known in The States, lol (y) :D (Aussie bands, lol, rofl :D:lmfao:).
Cause in my opinion, it's impossible - parents love their kids and should support them, in their interests. It's a bonus that Lisa happens to be very talented. If Lisa came to Aussie again - I'd be there (y)
bands like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Kiss he didn't like those bands. They were around in the late 60's except for Kiss.
He didn't even like the Rolling Stones so seeing as how Lisa's music is of that 90's indie rock sound like Alanna Morrisett and others he probably wouldn't of liked her music all that much.
Elvis could still love and support Lisa but not like her music.
That said Lisa Marie sounds like Cher, Sheryl Crow and Wynonna Judd and she has that early 90's women's singer-songwriter sound but in my opinion waited too long to come out with a CD. Now if she came out with a record in the early 90's and had more time to develop and practice her stage performance she could've been more successful because she would have fit in better and gotten more experience under her belt.
I like 2 of her songs Dirty Laundry and her song *****.
Unchained Melody
09-26-2009, 09:53 PM
bands like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Kiss he didn't like those bands. They were around in the late 60's except for Kiss.
He didn't even like the Rolling Stones so seeing as how Lisa's music is of that 90's indie rock sound like Alanna Morrisett and others he probably wouldn't of liked her music all that much.
Elvis could still love and support Lisa but not like her music.
That said Lisa Marie sounds like Cher, Sheryl Crow and Wynonna Judd and she has that early 90's women's singer-songwriter sound but in my opinion waited too long to come out with a CD. Now if she came out with a record in the early 90's and had more time to develop and practice her stage performance she could've been more successful because she would have fit in better and gotten more experience under her belt.
I like 2 of her songs Dirty Laundry and her song *****.
Wow, comparing or say Lisa sounds like Wynonna Judd or Cher.
If that were true, which its not, I think Lisa would have had a better singing career don't you?
Brian
09-26-2009, 10:01 PM
Wow, comparing or say Lisa sounds like Wynonna Judd or Cher.
If that were true, which its not, I think Lisa would have had a better singing career don't you?
Yes, it's true
Her voice does but she can't sing as good
Just because her singing voice sounds like those 2 is no guarantee of a better career.
I don't think Cher of Wynonna Judd are particularly good singers but they are okay.
Lisa's got a deep husky voice like they do when they sing.
Merry
09-26-2009, 10:26 PM
bands like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Kiss he didn't like those bands. They were around in the late 60's except for Kiss.
Brian, I don't know how you can claim you know anything for sure, with all due respect.
Led Zep, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, aren't the same as Accadacca nor other hard rock bands that followed, they were a different sound again.
He didn't even like the Rolling Stones so seeing as how Lisa's music is of that 90's indie rock sound like Alanna Morrisett and others he probably wouldn't of liked her music all that much.
Again, Brian, lots of assumptions, you could be right, or very wrong, with all due respect.
I like 2 of her songs Dirty Laundry and her song *****
Merry
09-26-2009, 10:29 PM
Wow, comparing or say Lisa sounds like Wynonna Judd or Cher.
If that were true, which its not, I think Lisa would have had a better singing career don't you?
It all comes down to taste and our opinions (of course) Brad.
Lisa's lyrics have meaning, they are deep, that's what I like, an awful lot.
I'd prefer Lisa any day (y)
Brian
09-27-2009, 12:10 AM
Brian, I don't know how you can claim you know anything for sure, with all due respect.
Led Zep, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, aren't the same as Accadacca nor other hard rock bands that followed, they were a different sound again.
Again, Brian, lots of assumptions, you could be right, or very wrong, with all due respect.
i'm not making any assumptions
it's just a fact that Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath started in the late 60's and Kiss started around 1973 and they are all considered Hard Rock acts.
I certainly consider them hard rock acts
It's pretty common knowledge Elvis didn't like harder rock or hard rock
lots of
Everybody says he didn't from Jerry Schilling to George Klein to Priscilla.
if it were just one person that said he didn't you could say well maybe they don't know or something but everybody says he hated it.
Given that Elvis was in his mid 30's when hard rock started coming out I believe it because people his age generally weren't into that kind of music.
Black Sabbath was pretty out there and so was Led Zeppelin actually.
I bet Elvis never even heard of Black Sabbath.
I know groups like the Animals and the Beatles were in his record collection but not any of those hard rock bands
So I think it's fair to say he wasn't a fan.
It all comes down to taste and our opinions (of course) Brad.
Lisa's lyrics have meaning, they are deep, that's what I like, an awful lot.
I'd prefer Lisa any day (y)
Absolutely right Jess. (y)(y) Like everything here, all opinions and taste.:D
elvislady
09-27-2009, 02:26 AM
I think elvis would be pleased that his daughter did something with her talent... and she choose singing, i imagine he would have his favorite songs, not sure which he would have liked the most.
elvislady :D
spanish eyes
09-27-2009, 05:34 AM
Elvis would probably tell Lisa to her face that he liked her songs but secretly he wouldn't like any of them
If Elvis didn't like Bob Dylan's singing he wouldn't like LMP.
plus her songs have that 90's rock sound and Elvis didn't even like the 70's rock sound so he definately wouldn't like the 90's rock sound.
IMO Elvis would have loved all Lisa's music and I'm sure he would have had his favorites. He would have been so proud of her and would have given advice when she asked for it and supported her every step of the way. She is such a talented song writer and I admire the fact that she puts her emotions into her songs and shares them with the world a very brave thing to do IMO. Elvis wouldn't compare her to another artist cos she's just Lisa, she has her own style and voice.
Elvis' style of music changed with time too from the 50s being totally different to the 70s, so IMO he would have kept up to date with modern music, to me he was always on the pulse with music, he would never be stuck in time with it therefore that's one of the reasons why I say he would love all his daughter's music.
Sweet_One_E.
09-27-2009, 05:52 AM
I have only heard a few. I can't get past the voice to appreciate words. can't imagine anyone buying a c.d. for the lyrics only. but her dad would be proud I think. you can be proud and say the music is not your taste. I bet there are other parents that felt that way. if I had a kid that did rap, I sure would.
debtdbruno
09-27-2009, 06:25 AM
I honestly haven't listened to Lisa's cds enough to speculate on a song that Elvis would
have liked. I do think that because it is Lisa, he would have tried to like whatever she
did. I do think he would have helped her with her music. And, I like to think that if he
had lived and she had pursued a music career, it would have been more in line with the
type of music that he did. I like to think that; but, I know the young don't always follow
in their elder's footsteps. One more thought, if he had lived and she had pursued her own
musical direction, perhaps she would have influenced him more into her kind of music!!! That could have been a good thing, or not!!!
I'm in agreement with you. Can't say I've heard enough to comment generally.
What I've heard........doesn't do much for me I'm afraid
GIORGIA
09-27-2009, 09:42 AM
I honestly haven't listened to Lisa's cds enough to speculate on a song that Elvis would
have liked. I do think that because it is Lisa, he would have tried to like whatever she
did. I do think he would have helped her with her music. And, I like to think that if he
had lived and she had pursued a music career, it would have been more in line with the
type of music that he did. I like to think that; but, I know the young don't always follow
in their elder's footsteps. One more thought, if he had lived and she had pursued her own
musical direction, perhaps she would have influenced him more into her kind of music!!! That could have been a good thing, or not!!!
I think the same thing!
GIORGIA
09-27-2009, 09:44 AM
Elvis was a purist.He appreciated truly great vocals.
Yes:blush::blush::blush::blush::blush:!
Jungleroom76
09-27-2009, 10:27 AM
While I am not that familiar with Lisa's music (it's not really my cup of tea), I would have to say that Elvis would certainly be supportive of Lisa's career even if he wasn't crazy about the type of music that she was recording. :hmm:
TCB!
Mike
GIORGIA
09-27-2009, 10:42 AM
While I am not that familiar with Lisa's music (it's not really my cup of tea), I would have to say that Elvis would certainly be supportive of Lisa's career even if he wasn't crazy about the type of music that she was recording. :hmm:
TCB!
Mike
I also agree with you!
My Friend!
Sonny
09-27-2009, 10:49 AM
I think Elvis would have been proud about all his little girl did.
If he would not have liked the style or music, as a dad he would have loved it!
I think Elvis would have been proud about all his little girl did.
If he would not have liked the style or music, as a dad he would have loved it!
I agree-I think also he would have been proud that she actually wrote a lot of her songs-as we all know something Elvis just had little success with.
Her lyrics are very personal and introspective-she wears her emotions on her sleeve.
debtdbruno
09-27-2009, 01:09 PM
While I am not that familiar with Lisa's music (it's not really my cup of tea), I would have to say that Elvis would certainly be supportive of Lisa's career even if he wasn't crazy about the type of music that she was recording. :hmm:
TCB!
Mike
I agree Mike...........she's his little girl, of course he would support her
(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
hounddog
09-27-2009, 03:13 PM
i think he would have liked Dirty Laundry and Shine. But i also think he would have been proud of what Lisa did.
TotallyInsane
09-27-2009, 07:21 PM
I think he is very proud of his little girl. How can anyone say she doesn't love her father?
YouTube - NOBODY NOTICED IT
Sweet_One_E.
09-28-2009, 05:55 AM
you can tell she does when she talks about him, it's so sweet
tcbeus
10-01-2009, 08:54 AM
How about Raven?I think he would'he liked it.
YouTube - Lisa Marie Presley - Raven
wildflower
10-01-2009, 09:01 AM
I agree that he would have liked Lisa's music and supported her... but I also believe that if he was still alive Lisa's songs would be very different- she wrote a couple of songs about her dad which would obviously be different if he was still alive... also her life would have probably be completely different with her dad around, maybe she would have not pursued a musical career at all... well a lot of IFs I know ;)
btw... I quite like Lisa's music... some of her songs really rock (y)
ELVIS FOREVER
wildflower
xxx
Merry
10-01-2009, 07:18 PM
How about Raven?I think he would'he liked it.
YouTube - Lisa Marie Presley - Raven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aItTTid7Uy0)
I agree tcbeus (y)(y)(y) I like "Raven" :D
Brian
10-01-2009, 08:00 PM
For me the real question isn't whether Elvis would have liked Lisa's songs or not, but what would he think of the duets of Don't cry Daddy and In the Ghetto?:hmm:
Lisarose
10-02-2009, 06:59 AM
I am wandering from the 2 albums lisa Marie has done which song would Elvis had liked alot? And do ya'll think he would have helped her with some of her music? Your Elvis friend Gerald!!
Lisa has stated that her Daddy would come into her room and get her to stand on the coffee table and sing to him. I believe she would always be singing for her daddy, and as her daddy he would love anything she did. That just something parents do, we love everything little thing our kids do. She would also have him to teach her. I think if Elvis had lived, Lisa would be a better singer - because she would want to make him proud & because he would be there to encourage her. I think he would love her writing because it would be hers - even if it is so painful and sad. Those are things that Elvis could definitely relate to.
For me the real question isn't whether Elvis would have liked Lisa's songs or not, but what would he think of the duets of Don't cry Daddy and In the Ghetto?:hmm:
Lisa's interview with Oprah, she admitted that she wasn't at all pleased with the results because she had a bit of difficulty keeping up with him he was "a much better singer than I am".
Elvis, imo, would be trotting LisaMarie up on stage to sing with him at any concerts he'd be performing.
ricardo b. prospero
10-02-2009, 09:26 AM
I believe Lisa Marie should leave her ambition of being a singer like her father because she definitely don't have it. Her voice sounds terrible and so artificial without feeling. The only reason why people listen to her out of respect is because she is Elvis only daughter. You don't have to be that smart to figure out why her songs never make it to the chart. I admire her courage and determination for trying though.
Brian
10-02-2009, 12:37 PM
I think Lisa's singer career is over she hasn't released an album since 2005 and hasn't been working on one this year and most likely won't work on one next year either.
Even if she did start working on a new album and completed it she couldn't release it because she was dropped by her label a couple of years ago and still hasn't got another recording contract.
Lisa sure is slow coming out with albums it took her over 10 years to put out her first one.
debtdbruno
10-02-2009, 12:39 PM
Lisa has stated that her Daddy would come into her room and get her to stand on the coffee table and sing to him. I believe she would always be singing for her daddy, and as her daddy he would love anything she did. That just something parents do, we love everything little thing our kids do. She would also have him to teach her. I think if Elvis had lived, Lisa would be a better singer - because she would want to make him proud & because he would be there to encourage her. I think he would love her writing because it would be hers - even if it is so painful and sad. Those are things that Elvis could definitely relate to.
Lisa's interview with Oprah, she admitted that she wasn't at all pleased with the results because she had a bit of difficulty keeping up with him he was "a much better singer than I am".
Elvis, imo, would be trotting LisaMarie up on stage to sing with him at any concerts he'd be performing.
Agree Lisa(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
elvislina
10-02-2009, 12:47 PM
Lisa-Marie is the best singer in my ears, I have never ever hate her song voice.
she done a good job with her songs and she is really cool and i know we have our opinion, but her music is the best and her music have help me a lot and I think she will maybe done some new music someday.
Lisa is really the best :D
she can sing and please donīt say bad things about her singing.
Merry
10-02-2009, 12:54 PM
Lisa-Marie is the best singer in my ears, I have never ever hate her song voice.
she done a good job with her songs and she is really cool and i know we have our opinion, but her music is the best and her music have help me a lot and I think she will maybe done some new music someday.
Lisa is really the best :D
she can sing and please donīt say bad things about her singing.
I love the fact that Lisa writes her own lyrics, and that they are meaningful, and yes, I like Lisa's music and her singing a great deal, too, honey. Lisa's lyrics have helped me, too, and I'm very greatful for that. :hug:
elvislina
10-02-2009, 01:02 PM
yeah I love it so so much, her music is so cool. when I am mad at someone some have treet me bad her sing ***** and importent and more have help me out.
her songs is so special , her songs is the best and the most cool songs ever.
she is the best girl singer ever on this earth :D I have tell Lisa-Marie that many times on myspace that she did a good job with them and shall let them coming :D
she is the best :D
I am so happy that she is a singer without her songs my voice had never been so great today :D I sing to her music every day and have learn up my voice and my friends have been so schocked lol and say so great you singing lol anyway thanx to lisa for that :hug:
Raised on Rock
10-02-2009, 02:09 PM
bands like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Kiss he didn't like those bands. They were around in the late 60's except for Kiss.
He didn't even like the Rolling Stones.
Elvis is on tape Aug '65 recalling The Stones as his favorite british band after the Bealtes. He didn't liked the direction The Stones took latter on, The Psychedelic phase, Satanic Majesties and all that, but he liked them when they where mostly an R&B/R&R combo, not that different from the Animals, which is known he liked them, basically because of Eric's singing which is way superior than Jagger.
Can't say he liked or not Sabbath, Deep Purple or Kiss, I don't think he even know them, most-likely he wouldn't liked them but more because of ideological issues than the music itself. (The sound of Deep Purple in '68 its not that different from Elvis sound in '68 Brian)
On the other hand he was familiar with Zeppelin, and it is know he meet Plan and Bonham more than once during the 70's, and he actually related to them way better than the famous Beatle encounter. Maybe the key to it was that he understood and shared Plant's love to blues music, and although Zeppelin music took a very different direction post '73, prior to that, it is rooted not to far from Elvis music and in Elvis music itself, and Presley knew that. Maybe he was not a Zeppelin fan, but he DID HAD respect for them, remember what Elvis said before playing Reconsider Baby, a blues song, Led Zeppelin in the audience that night?
Elvis is also on tape '72 stating not that he didn't liked Hard Rock no more, but the reason he didn't record that anymore, was that it was difficult for him to find real good hard rock songs, but if he would find them, he will do them. Guess he never found them
About Dylan, it is know that he was not a fan of Dylan singing, but HE WAS A BIG FAN, of his song writing and music beside his voice. So...
Anyhow Brian, what in the hell does Sabbath or any kind of freaking hard rock music 70's or 90's and Elvis liking it or not had to do with Lisa Marie music? She is not hard rock music at all!!! not in a million years!!!
Personally I think Lisa Marie singing and music isn't bad but neither good, (to me that is bad music anyway) There is simply nothing to it, I do can stand it, but Im not interested on it at all. She's total average, she would have been completely unnoticed by the media if not because of her connections, needles to say her last name.
I do believe other wise that it is not that she does not has talent, she might have something you know, musically speaking, plus she certainly has a lot of character, and certain charisma, definitively she had the looks when younger, but you see, without hard work, talent worths nothing. If she would have dedicated to her music in a serious way, day and night night and day, since a teenager, she might have accomplished something as a real musician/singer/song writer, instead of just a lot of media noise and an overproduced, extremely commercial sounding CD. In other words, I think she does have it, but did nothing with it.
So about Presley liking her music or not, I will began to say, he would have been to be the first to encourage her to develop his talent all the way since her teen days, to became a real accomplished musician, and not just a one hit (media built) wonder.
If he liked or not her music would be apart, Elvis could be very respectful about certain musicians despite they were of his taste or not.
elvislina
10-02-2009, 02:14 PM
She is a great singer and I will always been on her side. she is the best
Brian
10-02-2009, 03:58 PM
Elvis is on tape Aug '65 recalling The Stones as his favorite british band after the Bealtes. He didn't liked the direction The Stones took latter on, The Psychedelic phase, Satanic Majesties and all that, but he liked them when they where mostly an R&B/R&R combo, not that different from the Animals, which is known he liked them, basically because of Eric's singing which is way superior than Jagger.
Can't say he liked or not Sabbath, Deep Purple or Kiss, I don't think he even know them, most-likely he wouldn't liked them but more because of ideological issues than the music itself. (The sound of Deep Purple in '68 its not that different from Elvis sound in '68 Brian)
On the other hand he was familiar with Zeppelin, and it is know he meet Plan and Bonham more than once during the 70's, and he actually related to them way better than the famous Beatle encounter. Maybe the key to it was that he understood and shared Plant's love to blues music, and although Zeppelin music took a very different direction post '73, prior to that, it is rooted not to far from Elvis music and in Elvis music itself, and Presley knew that. Maybe he was not a Zeppelin fan, but he DID HAD respect for them, remember what Elvis said before playing Reconsider Baby, a blues song, Led Zeppelin in the audience that night?
Elvis is also on tape '72 stating not that he didn't liked Hard Rock no more, but the reason he didn't record that anymore, was that it was difficult for him to find real good hard rock songs, but if he would find them, he will do them. Guess he never found them
About Dylan, it is know that he was not a fan of Dylan singing, but HE WAS A BIG FAN, of his song writing and music beside his voice. So...
Anyhow Brian, what in the hell does Sabbath or any kind of freaking hard rock music 70's or 90's and Elvis liking it or not had to do with Lisa Marie music? She is not hard rock music at all!!! not in a million years!!!
Personally I think Lisa Marie singing and music isn't bad but neither good, (to me that is bad music anyway) There is simply nothing to it, I do can stand it, but Im not interested on it at all. She's total average, she would have been completely unnoticed by the media if not because of her connections, needles to say her last name.
I think the thing where he says he likes the Rolling Stones was just an attempt to sound hip about knowing and liking the then current music scene.
I've heard from several people who knew Elvis that he didn't like them at all.
About Led Zeppelin I think they just wanted to meet him and he was nice and polite to them but didn't like their music.
I think when he made that comment about them he was just acknowledging they were in the audience.
In the MSG press conference I think he was referring to rock n' roll in general like why he didn't do more rock n' roll even though the reporter did indeed specifically mention hard rock but he said how come you don't do hard rock songs anymore?
right he liked Dylan's songs to be sung by others because he didn't like his singing voice.
I think Elvis was aware of all those bands like Kiss, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin and Deep purple because of The Stanley brothers.
I agree Deep purple is not as Hard rock as those other bands, and I could see Elvis doing Joe South's Hush in 1968 if he had gotten it first, but all in all they were still considered a hard rock band.
My point about Elvis not liking hard rock or harder edge rock and comparing it to him not liking LMP music is because she does do some harder edged rock like ''*****'' and others songs which are rather dark lyrically and Elvis was known to dislike that type of music. he did 50's and early 60's rock and liked some 60's bands but not the harder rocking ones.
Elvis did country rock in the later years and Lisa while not being hard rock does do some tough 90's rock songs that I doubt he'd like.
Raised on Rock
10-02-2009, 04:59 PM
I think the thing where he says he likes the Rolling Stones was just an attempt to sound hip about knowing and liking the then current music scene.
I've heard from several people who knew Elvis that he didn't like them at all.
From what I read he actually did liked most of the British invasion bands when they were mainly R&B combos, good old rock and roll bands, but stop feeling close to them when they went into the psychedelic stuff, when most of them, like the Beatles and the Stones, became the so called leaders of the counter culture, but then again, I think his odd feelings about them where more about different ideology and politics than actually about music.
About Led Zeppelin I think they just wanted to meet him and he was nice and polite to them but didn't like their music.
I think when he made that comment about them he was just acknowledging they were in the audience.
According to the Stanley's, Elvis comment about Zeppelin was that he found what he listened: "rather good", either he liked them or not, I found Zeppelin, because of they musical roots, much more related to Elvis, opposed to other hard rock bands, like Sabbath or Kiss that are much more far removed from Elvis. Deep Purple, the early incarnation of it, it is also well related to Presley. It was not rare to Zeppelin cover Elvis songs at any concert, they were true fans. According to Robert Plant on his meeting to Elvis, he was more than merely polite, but actually very friendly.
the MSG press conference I think he was referring to rock n' roll in general like why he didn't do more rock n' roll even though the reporter did indeed specifically mention hard rock but he said how come you don't do hard rock songs anymore?
Well the thing is that music did changed a lot during the 60's, by the 70's, Elvis was well remembered because of the riots he raised in the 50's, and all the controversy of his stage antics, and how some of his records were actually the hardest rocking from them all, nothing from the 50's matches Hound Dog or Jailhouse Rock in terms of proto hard rock. So reminding 50's Elvis, the immediate media comparison to him was the scandal and riots of people like Alice Cooper or Iggy Pop, so... "I was tame compared to what they do now, but he did not seem at all to be condemn them, but just laughing", but there was an obvious link between them, in fact most of those new bands, people like Iggy Pop, they were all mayor fans, many of then actually recalling seeing him during the 50's and the riots he provoked, they where just following his steps. Going out of topic now. I think, when ideologic differences where not between Elvis and new bands, I don't think he had anything against hard rock music.
I think he was just not able to be much in contact with new bands, but must of all, he was rarely able to get that kind of material to record, and probably just feeling to old to go back to rock and roll.
My point about Elvis not liking hard rock or harder edge rock and comparing it to him not liking LMP music is because she does do some harder edged rock like ''*****'' and others songs which are rather dark lyrically and Elvis was known to dislike that type of music. he did 50's and early 60's rock and liked some 60's bands but not the harder rocking ones.
Elvis did country rock in the later years and Lisa while not being hard rock does do some tough 90's rock songs that I doubt he'd like.
I do state now, Lisa Marie could be many things, from a lousy mediocre artist to the best singer on earth, you can love her, you can hate it, that is up taste in the end, but one thing Lisa's music IT IS NOT is: Hard Rock. Lisa's music being: harder edged rock like? not in a million years. Roughy look a like pop maybe.
elvislina
10-02-2009, 05:01 PM
Could you both please stop talk bad things a bout Lisas music, this question was about elvis and not lisa and stop bullying her.
Brian
10-02-2009, 05:17 PM
From what I read he actually did liked most of the British invasion bands when they were mainly R&B combos, good old rock and roll bands, but stop feeling close to them when they went into the psychedelic stuff, when most of them, like the Beatles and the Stones, became the so called leaders of the counter culture, but then again, I think his odd feelings about them where more about different ideology and politics than actually about music.
According to the Stanley's, Elvis comment about Zeppelin was that he found what he listened: "rather good", either he liked them or not, I found Zeppelin, because of they musical roots, much more related to Elvis, opposed to other hard rock bands, like Sabbath or Kiss that are much more far removed from Elvis. Deep Purple, the early incarnation of it, it is also well related to Presley. It was not rare to Zeppelin cover Elvis songs at any concert, they were true fans. According to Robert Plant on his meeting to Elvis, he was more than merely polite, but actually very friendly.
Well the thing is that music did changed a lot during the 60's, by the 70's, Elvis was well remembered because of the riots he raised in the 50's, and all the controversy of his stage antics, and how some of his records were actually the hardest rocking from them all, nothing from the 50's matches Hound Dog or Jailhouse Rock in terms of proto hard rock. So reminding 50's Elvis, the immediate media comparison to him was the scandal and riots of people like Alice Cooper or Iggy Pop, so... "I was tame compared to what they do now, but he did not seem at all to be condemn them, but just laughing", but there was an obvious link between them, in fact most of those new bands, people like Iggy Pop, they were all mayor fans, many of then actually recalling seeing him during the 50's and the riots he provoked, they where just following his steps. Going out of topic now. I think, when ideologic differences where not between Elvis and new bands, I don't think he had anything against hard rock music.
I think he was just not able to be much in contact with new bands, but must of all, he was rarely able to get that kind of material to record, and probably just feeling to old to go back to rock and roll.
I do state now, Lisa Marie could be many things, from a lousy mediocre artist to the best singer on earth, you can love her, you can hate it, that is up taste in the end, but one thing Lisa's music IT IS NOT is: Hard Rock. Lisa's music being: harder edged rock like? not in a million years. Roughy look a like pop maybe.
Again I didn't say she was hard rock
she is a harder edge rock than her father or the types of rock he liked.
Their is a difference between saying harder edge rock and flat out hard rock.
That's what you are not understanding in my post.
I can assure you Elvis wouldn't like Iggy Pops music or Alice Cooper.
I understand what you are saying about Hound dog and Jailhouse rock but what it evolved into is something different than those songs.
It's great all those artists liked Elvis and were influenced by him but he just didn't like that type of music.
You are right he didn't have anything against it he just didn't care for it
I think Elvis did like CCR but they weren't hard rock.
so he liked the early Beatles, the Animals, CCR and maybe some of the other pop rock oriented British bands.
Brian
10-02-2009, 05:21 PM
Could you both please stop talk bad things a bout Lisas music, this question was about elvis and not lisa and stop bullying her.
Nope
it is are opinion that LMP music is not a very good singer.
Raised on Rocked and I should be allowed to express that.
All of are posts are about Lisa and Elvis
Raised on Rock
10-02-2009, 09:09 PM
Again I didn't say she was hard rock
she is a harder edge rock than her father or the types of rock he liked.
Their is a difference between saying harder edge rock and flat out hard rock.
That's what you are not understanding in my post.
YES there is a difference between saying harder edge rock and flat out hard rock, Lisa Marie is neither of those, an overproduced (hard edged rough wannabe) POP at all times. Lisa Marie sound on those two cds is by no means a rocker, not even a soft one, she is 100% pop, some dirty guitars as background is just for image, it does not makes it a rocker. And there is nothing wrong to be a pop artist rather than a rocker. Im just calling it what she is.
Let's be benevolent, she is Pop rock if you like? Ok then, but Harder edge rock than her Father? Sir your are totally missing historic context!!! the type of music Lisa Marie did compared to what Elvis played in the 50's (in their respective social and historic context) it is by no means harder edged. Neither it is to what Elvis did at the '68 Comback special. It is by no means hard edged in terms of intensity compared to certain points of his '69 shows through '72, and also some studio recordings. NO she is by no means harder edge rock than her father. Sure in the end Elvis did more pop stuff than rock, but when he did rock music, well you know, there was fire there, call it southern rock, country rock, hard rock, Lisa Marie music is by no means near to that. She is pop music, pop rock if you like, but whatever toughness hard edge you are perceiving on her sound (talking about her music not her) is merely about image, she is pop music, not rock. Nothing wrong to be pop.
So I don't think Elvis opinion on hard rock music back in the 70's could have anything to do about liking or not Lisa Marie's music, plus as I have said many times now, most of Elvis issues with certain bands around the late 60's and early 70's was not about their music but about their ideology and political opinions. Can't see any ideology or political opinion that could affect Elvis feelings about her music.
Back in topic, I really can't tell if Elvis would have liked or not those two records Lisa did based on Elvis musical tastes back then. Music has changed so much, both in terms of music understanding itself and in terms of the business. Also, people tastes change with time and its hard know how Elvis musical choices could have evolved, specially Elvis having such an amazingly diverse interest in so different styles of music, makes him quite unpredictable, while you are making him look so predictable my friend.
Anyhow, I believe Elvis would have been totally supporting about her musical career, either he liked or not the styles she wanted to pursue, he would have respect that. Yet, whatever kind of music she wanted to do, being that his favorite or not, he would have been quite demanding on her, which I think its a good thing, as that could have avoided her to waste so many time in her career, also he could have pushed her to get the most of her talent, one I have never denied here.
I understand what you are saying about Hound dog and Jailhouse rock but what it evolved into is something different than those songs.
Actually, when if we talk in strictly musical terms, that aside from the image or political ideology, Iggy Pop and The Stooges first album is way way way close related to stuff like Hound Dog or Jailhouse Rock!! add some serious gain and distortion to those Scotty Moore power chords, give some steroids to that machine gun-chain gang DJ Fontana drumming, forget the up right bass and do just what Elvis did with the Electric bass in Baby I Don't Care with some serious amp boost, and as you can't get beyond that gritty overdriven sustain sound on Elvis voice in those days, I guess you have to just scream like a crazy man. And there you go: instant Iggy Pop and The Stooges. Talking about Led Zeppelin, their first two albums? I just call them, Elvis Presley Sun Sessions reloaded. There was nothing that different into what straight rock music evolved from Elvis past the psychedelia.
It is great all those artists liked Elvis and were influenced by him but he just didn't like that type of music.
You are right he didn't have anything against it he just didn't care for it
If Elvis was not interested much on them, I got no problem with that. I do believe that latter on, around the 90's, the generational gap between Elvis, and the generation he inspired, would have healed, when all the political 60's bullshit was long gone, and Eric Clapton did the unplugged. There was an instant link between that and Elvis nashville sound.
Raised on Rock
10-02-2009, 09:31 PM
Could you both please stop talk bad things a bout Lisas music, this question was about elvis and not lisa and stop bullying her.
Could you please quote me where did I bullied Lisa? Or disrespect her in anyway? I haven't.
This question is about Elvis and I am discussing with Brian about his musical tastes and if that could give us any clue about he liking what it is asked about in the present thread.
If you read more carefully you will do find a point where actually I did stated that she has the talent, charisma, personality and had good looks when younger to be a great one. My two criticizing opinions were that she has never been very consistent about her musical career, neither serious developing her talent. Which is quite a shame actually, cause I do like her singing and attitude, and I do respect her song writing.
My second criticizing was about her being overproduced into a too commercial sound. We usually complain about Elvis music being totally drowned in overdubbs to get a more commercial sound, when the original raw sound he looked for in the studio was much better and got lost in a sea of corny strings. I'm afraid Lisa falled right into the same. I think her singing and song-craft would have shined much more in a more stripped down fashion, you know, just backed with a memphis sounding guitar riffs, some tasty bass and drums, a small band, very raw sounding, kind of rocky, kind of soulish, going more Cat Power or Lucinda Williams, than Abril Lavinge or Pink.
I said she sounds totally pop to me, the commercial brand of it, that is not bully her, it is telling what it is. On the other hand I think her real musical soul is somewhere else. I would love to see a third effort on her, this time produced by the right people, with the right sound for her, and forget about looking for a market place and image Lisa, just do what you do, what you are is enough.
So about Elvis, I think learning from his own mistakes, but also about what his goal live and in the studio where, Lisa would have benefited tons from Elvis, as she seems to be repeating kind of the same mistakes Elvis suffered. On the other hand I think what would Elvis have respected the most, is the fact that she writes her own songs.
Lisarose
10-02-2009, 10:19 PM
I love the fact that Lisa writes her own lyrics, and that they are meaningful, and yes, I like Lisa's music and her singing a great deal, too, honey. Lisa's lyrics have helped me, too, and I'm very greatful for that. :hug:
(y) (y)
Her songs are very emotional and tell her stories So Lovely, Raven, and my favorite Nobody Noticed It. Her singing is rough, but that just makes it interesting and she certainly sings better than Dylan - Just my opinion!
Brian
10-02-2009, 11:00 PM
YES there is a difference between saying harder edge rock and flat out hard rock, Lisa Marie is neither of those, an overproduced (hard edged rough wannabe) POP at all times. Lisa Marie sound on those two cds is by no means a rocker, not even a soft one, she is 100% pop, some dirty guitars as background is just for image, it does not makes it a rocker. And there is nothing wrong to be a pop artist rather than a rocker. Im just calling it what she is.
Let's be benevolent, she is Pop rock if you like? Ok then, but Harder edge rock than her Father? Sir your are totally missing historic context!!! the type of music Lisa Marie did compared to what Elvis played in the 50's (in their respective social and historic context) it is by no means harder edged. Neither it is to what Elvis did at the '68 Comback special. It is by no means hard edged in terms of intensity compared to certain points of his '69 shows through '72, and also some studio recordings. NO she is by no means harder edge rock than her father. Sure in the end Elvis did more pop stuff than rock, but when he did rock music, well you know, there was fire there, call it southern rock, country rock, hard rock, Lisa Marie music is by no means near to that. She is pop music, pop rock if you like, but whatever toughness hard edge you are perceiving on her sound (talking about her music not her) is merely about image, she is pop music, not rock. Nothing wrong to be pop.
So I don't think Elvis opinion on hard rock music back in the 70's could have anything to do about liking or not Lisa Marie's music, plus as I have said many times now, most of Elvis issues with certain bands around the late 60's and early 70's was not about their music but about their ideology and political opinions. Can't see any ideology or political opinion that could affect Elvis feelings about her music.
Back in topic, I really can't tell if Elvis would have liked or not those two records Lisa did based on Elvis musical tastes back then. Music has changed so much, both in terms of music understanding itself and in terms of the business. Also, people tastes change with time and its hard know how Elvis musical choices could have evolved, specially Elvis having such an amazingly diverse interest in so different styles of music, makes him quite unpredictable, while you are making him look so predictable my friend.
Anyhow, I believe Elvis would have been totally supporting about her musical career, either he liked or not the styles she wanted to pursue, he would have respect that. Yet, whatever kind of music she wanted to do, being that his favorite or not, he would have been quite demanding on her, which I think its a good thing, as that could have avoided her to waste so many time in her career, also he could have pushed her to get the most of her talent, one I have never denied here.
Actually, when if we talk in strictly musical terms, that aside from the image or political ideology, Iggy Pop and The Stooges first album is way way way close related to stuff like Hound Dog or Jailhouse Rock!! add some serious gain and distortion to those Scotty Moore power chords, give some steroids to that machine gun-chain gang DJ Fontana drumming, forget the up right bass and do just what Elvis did with the Electric bass in Baby I Don't Care with some serious amp boost, and as you can't get beyond that gritty overdriven sustain sound on Elvis voice in those days, I guess you have to just scream like a crazy man. And there you go: instant Iggy Pop and The Stooges. Talking about Led Zeppelin, their first two albums? I just call them, Elvis Presley Sun Sessions reloaded. There was nothing that different into what straight rock music evolved from Elvis past the psychedelia.
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I enjoy reading your views on rock n' roll Rasied on Rock.
I think some of her music has a harder edge than many of the things Elvis did.
So we just disagree.
Now who knows maybe if Elvis had lived in the 80's when MTV, music videos and New Wave rock music became popular he would've recorded some of that.
There is a huge generational gap between Elvis and Lisa they came from different time periods even though he had an eclectic taste in music. I predict that Elvis wouldn't really care for her music because of that and is it just me or is it hard to understand Lisa on a lot of her songs.
I think Elvis didn't like or agree with some entertainers on their political views and ideology but I think it was also that he didn't care for their music.
I've heard that Elvis was the same way about the Beatles as John Lennon was about Elvis in that he liked their early stuff but didn't like Sgt. Pepper or the White Album.
Merry
10-02-2009, 11:11 PM
(y) (y)
Her songs are very emotional and tell her stories So Lovely, Raven, and my favorite Nobody Noticed It. Her singing is rough, but that just makes it interesting and she certainly sings better than Dylan - Just my opinion!
Hi Lisa,
I agree with you 100%. I've been listening to some of Lisa's songs again today. "Nobody Noticed It" - a beautiful song: Loving, emotional, the words, the melody, so moving. A lot of us "Noticed It" and so many of us love him.
There are so many song writers in this day in age, who cannot hold a candle to Lisa, in my opinion.
I also like Lisa's cover of "Dirty Laundry" a lot. She makes the song completely her own. (y) I like Lisa's voice, she is her own woman. (y):D
Raised on Rock
10-03-2009, 02:04 AM
I enjoy reading your views on rock n' roll Rasied on Rock.
I think some of her music has a harder edge than many of the things Elvis did.
So we just disagree.
Now who knows maybe if Elvis had lived in the 80's when MTV, music videos and New Wave rock music became popular he would've recorded some of that.
As I said, in their respective cultural/historic contexts, Elvis rocked harder (when he did of course, there is no point to say whatever rocked harder than Big Boots), there is no comparison between listening for the first time to the stirring intensity of Baby Letīs Play House or Hound Dog back in the 50's, and the shock that Elvis was, and how much Lisa could have "rocked", some 5 years ago.
But if you are just saying SOME of her music does more than MANY of Elvis recordings, ok, where not even disagreeing.
About Elvis doing New Wave type of music I don't know, can't pictured, I guess by the early 80's he would have focused more into country either that or he, the one guy from his generations of rockers that more successfully changed with times and adopted many different styles by doing so, would have pushed more into that new rock sound he was starting to reveal in tracks like Way Down, or that unfinished track There's a Fire Down Below, which were an interesting departure.
There is a huge generational gap between Elvis and Lisa they came from different time periods even though he had an eclectic taste in music. I predict that Elvis wouldn't really care for her music because of that and is it just me or is it hard to understand Lisa on a lot of her songs.
I think despite he would be interested or not in her type of music he would have been respectful and supportive, as she was his daughter. Yes, not being his daughter, I doubt he would have been very much interested on what she did.
I think Elvis didn't like or agree with some entertainers on their political views and ideology but I think it was also that he didn't care for their music.
It might be of course, and like most people he rather stick to the stuff that belonged to his generation. Yet another factor, apart from generational stuff and ideologies he didn't share and became tour de force in rock bands late 60's early 70's, is that he wasn't really in touch enough to actually listen in deep to newer bands, he might have not liked Eric Clapton psychedelic phase, but Im almost certain that he would have loved his earlier blues phase with John Mayall or his root oriented (or country/blues rock oriented if you rather call it like that) on post Cream Band: Derek and the Dominoes if he had heard of it He might have not been interested in Black Sabbath, but Im sure he would have been interested in some country/blues guitar picking from the Allmans, as much as he liked Creedence so.. (actually Eddie Hinton who played on some Elvis sessions, was offered to join the Allman Brothers Band)
heard that Elvis was the same way about the Beatles as John Lennon was about Elvis in that he liked their early stuff but didn't like Sgt. Pepper or the White Album.
I do enjoy this conversation with you too my friend. The fact that we might disagree and discus about that, does not mean we are bulling anyone as far as I know.
Your last comment, It does tell a lot the fact that Lennon was big Elvis fan, but an early Elvis fan, just the same way Elvis was in a certain way Beatles fan but early Bealtes, up to Helps I guess. And both didn't care a lot about what happened latter, "he sure did recorded some good stuff after the army, but it wasn't the same" said Lennon, "I think they are great and very experimental, but I liked them more when they did.. and he sang a few lines of I Saw Her Standing There" said Elvis. There is more to add when Lennon stated that his favorite Bealtes period where the Hamburg days, and the very first gigs at the Cavern. The odds are that for most fans, the best thing for Elvis was to come after the Army and though the 70's, while for most Beattes fans the best was to post '65, so... talking about generational gaps.
Even then, Elvis did Hey Jude, Something, and Get Back, from the post psychedelic period he clearly didn't liked. As much as Lennon
SleepyJack
10-03-2009, 05:33 AM
I`m just wondering how Elvis and Lisa Marie would have got on musically had Elvis lived to witness her recording career,I`m sure that,knowing Elvis he wouldn`t have been able to stop himself from getting involved and offering advice!... kind of like when a young woman decides to buy her first car and her father is a mechanic!...I`ll bet there would have been some interesting "discussions" there with both Presley tempers!!
debtdbruno
10-03-2009, 11:21 AM
Could you please quote me where did I bullied Lisa? Or disrespect her in anyway? I haven't.
This question is about Elvis and I am discussing with Brian about his musical tastes and if that could give us any clue about he liking what it is asked about in the present thread.
If you read more carefully you will do find a point where actually I did stated that she has the talent, charisma, personality and had good looks when younger to be a great one. My two criticizing opinions were that she has never been very consistent about her musical career, neither serious developing her talent. Which is quite a shame actually, cause I do like her singing and attitude, and I do respect her song writing.
My second criticizing was about her being overproduced into a too commercial sound. We usually complain about Elvis music being totally drowned in overdubbs to get a more commercial sound, when the original raw sound he looked for in the studio was much better and got lost in a sea of corny strings. I'm afraid Lisa falled right into the same. I think her singing and song-craft would have shined much more in a more stripped down fashion, you know, just backed with a memphis sounding guitar riffs, some tasty bass and drums, a small band, very raw sounding, kind of rocky, kind of soulish, going more Cat Power or Lucinda Williams, than Abril Lavinge or Pink.
I said she sounds totally pop to me, the commercial brand of it, that is not bully her, it is telling what it is. On the other hand I think her real musical soul is somewhere else. I would love to see a third effort on her, this time produced by the right people, with the right sound for her, and forget about looking for a market place and image Lisa, just do what you do, what you are is enough.
So about Elvis, I think learning from his own mistakes, but also about what his goal live and in the studio where, Lisa would have benefited tons from Elvis, as she seems to be repeating kind of the same mistakes Elvis suffered. On the other hand I think what would Elvis have respected the most, is the fact that she writes her own songs.
I totally agree there. Much prefer studio recordings myself, without all the excess horns, strings and vocals(y)(y)(y)(y)
Genie
10-04-2009, 07:31 PM
The duet of Lisa Marie and Elvis singing "Daddy Please Don't Cry"
Brian
10-04-2009, 08:25 PM
I`m just wondering how Elvis and Lisa Marie would have got on musically had Elvis lived to witness her recording career,I`m sure that,knowing Elvis he wouldn`t have been able to stop himself from getting involved and offering advice!... kind of like when a young woman decides to buy her first car and her father is a mechanic!...I`ll bet there would have been some interesting "discussions" there with both Presley tempers!!
I think he wouldn't of been involved unless she asked for advice then he'd give it. otherwise I think he would stay out of if.
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