why didn't Elvis have more kids

[Sweet_One_E.]

he seemed to love children! he seemed to love Linda why not get married again and have more children, I wish he would then they would be around and make him happy.

[Getlo]

It's very simple.

Impotency issues of the last couple of years aside, it's because Elvis was not married.

There was no way that Elvis Presley would have had a child out of wedlock, at least not intentionally.

And he did not wish to marry anyone ever again.

[italianfan]

I agree with Getlo, he just never had the chance after Cilla. I believe his lifestyle/state of mind was too messed up after 1973 to even think about more kids.


And he did not wish to marry anyone ever again.

Is this proven? Not saying your wrong, just curious.

[May]

I think he probably did want more children. Just the way things go, they broke up, got divorced and everything went belly-up.
Priscilla is supposed to have said, even when still married, that she didnt want any more.

[Diane]

I think he probably did want more children. Just the way things go, they broke up, got divorced and everything went belly-up.
Priscilla is supposed to have said, even when still married, that she didnt want any more.

That may be another reason why the marriage didn't work out. They weren't in tune with each other...Elvis was said to want several children.

Diane

[Kiki]

It's very simple.

Impotency issues of the last couple of years aside, it's because Elvis was not married.

There was no way that Elvis Presley would have had a child out of wedlock, at least not intentionally.

And he did not wish to marry anyone ever again.

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[May]

That may be another reason why the marriage didn't work out. They weren't in tune with each other...Elvis was said to want several children.

Diane

No I dont think the marriage broke up because of the children issue. I think there were lots of reasons Priscilla left. I just remember reading after Lisa, Priscilla said she didnt want any more children ...... with Elvis :hmm:

On the EBTP dvd when Elvis was talking about kids, to me it definitely sounded like he didnt want his child to be an only-child. :)

[Diane]

No I dont think the marriage broke up because of the children issue. I think there were lots of reasons Priscilla left. I just remember reading after Lisa, Priscilla said she didnt want any more children ...... with Elvis :hmm:

On the EBTP dvd when Elvis was talking about kids, to me it definitely sounded like he didnt want his child to be an only-child. :)

I agree, it wasn't the cause of the break-up for sure but it may have been another reason why the two of them didn't mesh emotionally.

Diane

[elvislady]

I dont think elvis wanted to marry again after cilla... this is my theroy, he didnt find anyone else that he truly loved after cilla.. i know in pictures with linda, ginger, he seems all loved up but i truly believe his heart was with cilla till the end.. has for more children it didnt happen i dont know if he ever wanted more.

elvislady :D

[debtdbruno]

It's very simple.

Impotency issues of the last couple of years aside, it's because Elvis was not married.

There was no way that Elvis Presley would have had a child out of wedlock, at least not intentionally.

And he did not wish to marry anyone ever again.

Agree with Getlo on this(y)(y)(y)

[debtdbruno]

That's not to say I don't believe he didn't want more children............just didn't want to marry somone to have them

[Brian]

I think he did want another child i've heard Dr.Nick, Linda Thompson, Joe Esposito and a couple of other people say that he wanted to have a son.

if he had a son he talked about how was going to name him either.

Michael John Presley

Michael Baron Presley

John Baron Presley.



sometimes people want to have more children but it never comes to pass.

and Getlo is right Elvis wasn't married and he wouldn't intentionally have a child out of wedlock.

[The Welz]

Elvis wasn't the family guy at all. Although I think that he loved and needed his family, he surely wasn't a father figure at all. He basically wanted to live his old life as a free man and date as many women he wanted and be with whomever he liked. And that is something one should not do as a father and married man. It wasn't his lifestyle.

[debtdbruno]

Elvis wasn't the family guy at all. Although I think that he loved and needed his family, he surely wasn't a father figure at all. He basically wanted to live his old life as a free man and date as many women he wanted and be with whomever he liked. And that is something one should not do as a father and married man. It wasn't his lifestyle.


It's called 'wanting your cake and eating it too'
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[GIORGIA]

I think he did want another child i've heard Dr.Nick, Linda Thompson, Joe Esposito and a couple of other people say that he wanted to have a son.

if he had a son he talked about how was going to name him either.

Michael John Presley

Michael Baron Presley

John Baron Presley.



sometimes people want to have more children but it never comes to pass.

and Getlo is right Elvis wasn't married and he wouldn't intentionally have a child out of wedlock.
I heard this too!
Only thing that I don't heard until now are the Children's Name.
Beautiful Names:blush:!
He would be a Beautiful Child:blush:!

[debtdbruno]

It would have been much harder for a boy to follow in Elvis' footsteps

[Diane]

It would have been much harder for a boy to follow in Elvis' footsteps

I agree. From the little I've read, it's been hard enough on Benjamin his grandson.

Diane

[cbg84]

I dont think elvis wanted to marry again after cilla... this is my theroy, he didnt find anyone else that he truly loved after cilla.. i know in pictures with linda, ginger, he seems all loved up but i truly believe his heart was with cilla till the end.. has for more children it didnt happen i dont know if he ever wanted more.

elvislady :D

100% agree. (y)(y)(y)

[debtdbruno]

It could be as simple as.......'Once bitten, twice shy'

[Diane]

I think Elvis did want several children when he was younger but as his life went on even before his marriage, I think his lifestyle pretty much put that out of his mind.

He did get a lot of pleasure when he and Priscilla had Lisa but he really didn't have time for a family anymore.

Diane

[Annie]

Elvis had not children because he was expecting....I was born...:P just kidding ... you are sure that Elvis didn't have children out of wedlock? :supriced:

[presley31]

I think Elvis did want several children when he was younger but as his life went on even before his marriage, I think his lifestyle pretty much put that out of his mind.

He did get a lot of pleasure when he and Priscilla had Lisa but he really didn't have time for a family anymore.

Diane

I was listerning to this song and part of the lyric said
They say that the road
ain't no place to start a family

I turly believe that being on the road is hard for having a family so maybe elvis knew this deep down inside.

[Genie]

I think Elvis did want several children when he was younger but as his life went on even before his marriage, I think his lifestyle pretty much put that out of his mind.

He did get a lot of pleasure when he and Priscilla had Lisa but he really didn't have time for a family anymore.

Diane;) Yes, I heard that he wanted very much to have a son but of course in those days you couldn't pick and choose like you can today.
"Cilla did not find having a baby very pleasant, and was not thrilled with the idea of going through all that again. Not to mention, I read somewhere that Elvis considered "Mother's" off limits... a little quirk of his.

[Pacerstar]

Elvis had not children because he was expecting....I was born...:P just kidding ... you are sure that Elvis didn't have children out of wedlock? :supriced:

To my knowledge, it has not been proven in a court of law that Elvis had any
illigitimate children. :D:D:D

[Annie]

To my knowledge, it has not been proven in a court of law that Elvis had any
illigitimate children. :D:D:D
..in a court of law, of course....

[Pacerstar]

..in a court of law, of course....

That is what it takes to make it official, Annie.:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Getlo]

Is this proven? Not saying your wrong, just curious.

Yes. He never married again, and the "engagement" to Ginger was a misunderstanding.

Had he lived, he may well have changed his mind.

[GIORGIA]

Yes. He never married again, and the "engagement" to Ginger was a misunderstanding.

Had he lived, he may well have chnaged his mind.
I don't think that is was misunderstanding,I advice you to watch the interview of kathy!
But of course is My Opinion!

[May]

;) Yes, I heard that he wanted very much to have a son but of course in those days you couldn't pick and choose like you can today.
"Cilla did not find having a baby very pleasant, and was not thrilled with the idea of going through all that again. Not to mention, I read somewhere that Elvis considered "Mother's" off limits... a little quirk of his.

A lot has been said about that. But he didnt seem to have a problem with Barbara Leigh. She had a son.:hmm:

[presley31]

;) Yes, I heard that he wanted very much to have a son but of course in those days you couldn't pick and choose like you can today.
"Cilla did not find having a baby very pleasant, and was not thrilled with the idea of going through all that again. Not to mention, I read somewhere that Elvis considered "Mother's" off limits... a little quirk of his.

I have heard the same thing be said by some of the boys (MM) that elvis didn't want to sleep with priscilla after the baby and priscilla said when they did elvis looked like he wasn't really into it. Billy smith said elvis could sleep with a litter but he didn't want to sleep with priscilla-. I may not believe priscilla or the boys but some of this does make sense to me anyhow.

Back to the question. Yes l think elvis wanted more children but wanted marrigae first.

[debtdbruno]

A lot has been said about that. But he didnt seem to have a problem with Barbara Leigh. She had a son.:hmm:

Just what I thought(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[Sweet_One_E.]

his feeling about no messing with mothers he must have got over because Priscilla said they did have husband and wife relations after a while.
So sad, maybe more kids would have helped him

[May]

This is another issue Priscilla changes her mind on. She says one minute they didnt have 'relations' after Lisa Marie, then when asked about her statement years later she queries "I dont know where people get that idea from" Errr, you Priscilla.

[Annie]

That is what it takes to make it official, Annie.:D:D:D:D:D:D

official is not necessarily synonymous with true nor false official .... is official only. Could there be a truth that is not official. I'm not saying it that way, but it surprises me that you speak of children only within marriage, when we know that Elvis loved a woman more than a fool a pencil. It is not unreasonable assumption of an illegitimate child ...

[Annie]

This is another issue Priscilla changes her mind on. She says one minute they didnt have 'relations' after Lisa Marie, then when asked about her statement years later she queries "I dont know where people get that idea from" Errr, you Priscilla.

jejeje, She also confessed to a magazine that she and Elvis had made love the day before the divorce, grrrrr

[Pacerstar]

official is not necessarily synonymous with true nor false official .... is official only. Could there be a truth that is not official. I'm not saying it that way, but it surprises me that you speak of children only within marriage, when we know that Elvis loved a woman more than a fool a pencil. It is not unreasonable assumption of an illegitimate child ...

No, it is not an unusual assumption. But, to my knowledge none has ever
proven their claim to be Elvis' illigitimate child, either in a court of law or
otherwise. Honey, I am well aware that children are born out of wedlock every
day. It is in my own family. It is just that none have proven that they belong
to Elvis, to my knowledge:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Tony Trout]

It's very simple.

Impotency issues of the last couple of years aside, it's because Elvis was not married.

There was no way that Elvis Presley would have had a child out of wedlock, at least not intentionally.

And he did not wish to marry anyone ever again.


Agree 100%, Getlo. The 'engagement' to Ginger was nothin' more than a joke. Elvis would never have married her in a million years.




Is this proven? Not saying your wrong, just curious.


Yes, it's spoken of by Lamar Fike in "Elvis Aaron Presley: Revelations From The Memphis Mafia" (in the hardback version of the book) on page 684 (the asteriks are mine due to the language that is used by Lamar):


"Dr. Nick wasn't giving Elvis testosterone just to make him more virile onstage. ****, no! He gave it to him for impotence. You couldn't dope up that much and get a ****-** if Elizabeth Taylor stuck her *** in your face."






That may be another reason why the marriage didn't work out. They weren't in tune with each other...Elvis was said to want several children.

Diane


I do remember him saying this during the press conference from August 1, 1969 when asked about wanting more children, but, he could've also been saying that to entertain the press or pacify them because, even then, I don't think he wanted more children.




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Sorry, but Getlo's right on this one.




Yes. He never married again, and the "engagement" to Ginger was a misunderstanding.

Had he lived, he may well have changed his mind.


Getlo, I agree with you on the first sentence but I'll have to disagree with the second part. I don't think he would've wanted more children even if he had lived because, due to his health or unless he really wound up getting himself into a rehab facility, it just wouldn't have worked out for him to have more children because, honestly, I don't think that he was capable of caring for another child.




A lot has been said about that. But he didn't seem to have a problem with Barbara Leigh. She had a son.:hmm:


He didn't have a problem with Barbara Leigh because he supposedly never made love to her. It's that simple. She (in all her interviews I've seen where she's discussed Elvis) has never mentioned them making love.




jejeje, She also confessed to a magazine that she and Elvis had made love the day before the divorce, grrrrr

Source, please?? I find this a bit far-fetched, actually.

[Brian]

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He didn't have a problem with Barbara Leigh because he supposedly never made love to her. It's that simple. She (in all her interviews I've seen where she's discussed Elvis) has never mentioned them making love.





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She talks about it in her book Tony

She also talked about it in an interview from 2002 on the epgold website.


I would also like to point out that Elvis dated Ann Pennington in 1974-75 who had a daughter.

The whole madonna thing is bogus either Elvis just lost interest in Priscilla or she made that up for her book to make it juicer and to make Elvis look weird.

[May]

jejeje, She also confessed to a magazine that she and Elvis had made love the day before the divorce, grrrrr

Actually yes, I heard that too. Am trying to remember where from :hmm:

[May]

[B][I]He didn't have a problem with Barbara Leigh because he supposedly never made love to her. It's that simple. She (in all her interviews I've seen where she's discussed Elvis) has never mentioned them making love.





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Not how I understand it.:hmm:


Q: When did you know you'd be lovers?

BL: From that moment in his dressing room when we locked eyes, I knew we would be friends and lovers. I wished it! When Elvis wanted something he usually got it. As we spent time together our relationship grew. We tried spending as much time together as we could manage, but it wasn't easy with his career, his marriage, his other women and my work schedule. Life was always a challenge with the King.

[presley31]

She talks about it in her book Tony

She also talked about it in an interview from 2002 on the epgold website.


I would also like to point out that Elvis dated Ann Pennington in 1974-75 who had a daughter.

The whole madonna thing is bogus either Elvis just lost interest in Priscilla or she made that up for her book to make it juicer and to make Elvis look weird.

If priscilla just said it l would think it wasn't very true but l have read it from the Memphis mafia and books also.

[Sweet_One_E.]

might be true but only lasted a little while, if so no one is lying

[Donut]

She talks about it in her book Tony

She also talked about it in an interview from 2002 on the epgold website.


I would also like to point out that Elvis dated Ann Pennington in 1974-75 who had a daughter.

The whole madonna thing is bogus either Elvis just lost interest in Priscilla or she made that up for her book to make it juicer and to make Elvis look weird.

Susan Henning had a daughter too ;)

[elvislady]

tony
He didn't have a problem with Barbara Leigh because he supposedly never made love to her. It's that simple. She (in all her interviews I've seen where she's discussed Elvis) has never mentioned them making love.




I have read barbara leighs book and yes she and elvis did make love!

elvislady :D

[May]

(y)(y)(y)(y)

[Tony Trout]

She talks about it in her book Tony

She also talked about it in an interview from 2002 on the epgold website.


I would also like to point out that Elvis dated Ann Pennington in 1974-75 who had a daughter.

The whole madonna thing is bogus either Elvis just lost interest in Priscilla or she made that up for her book to make it juicer and to make Elvis look weird.


Not how I understand it.:hmm:


Q: When did you know you'd be lovers?

BL: From that moment in his dressing room when we locked eyes, I knew we would be friends and lovers. I wished it! When Elvis wanted something he usually got it. As we spent time together our relationship grew. We tried spending as much time together as we could manage, but it wasn't easy with his career, his marriage, his other women and my work schedule. Life was always a challenge with the King.


I have read barbara leighs book and yes she and elvis did make love!

elvislady :D


To Brian & "elvislady" & "May":

I was sent a link to an interview by her via Kimmi (Jess) and, unless I missed it she did not mention making love with Elvis in the interview.

So.....I'll say nothing else until I see actual proof. Of course, she does mention the years 1970-1973 so it is quite plausible that they did have relations with one another ((to put it mildly).

I'm mainly referring to the years after 1973 and until his death. By all accounts, he did not make love with any of the women he was with after 1973-1974.

[May]

Well, to me the word "lover" means just that!

[elvislady]

tony
I was sent a link to an interview by her via Kimmi (Jess) and, unless I missed it she did not mention making love with Elvis in the interview.

So.....I'll say nothing else until I see actual proof. Of course, she does mention the years 1970-1973 so it is quite plausible that they did have relations with one another ((to put it mildly).

I'm mainly referring to the years after 1973 and until his death. By all accounts, he did not make love with any of the women he was with after 1973-1974.

she tells in her book the last time she spent the night with elvis was in the fall of 1974,she meet him in 1970 i dont know when he last slept with a lady in a antimate way.. she also dedicated her book to her son gerry haynes who died, 1964-1994.

elvislady

[Tony Trout]

Well, to me the word "lover" means just that!

Well, in the interview I read, she did not ever once use the words "make love".

These arguments are getting ridiculous.......:doh:

*leaves thread*

[May]

Oh for goodness sake!

Well you obviously arent watching the right interviews. I suggest you read her book. specifically Chapter two Page 37, then my side of the "argument" wont seem so "ridiculous" !

[GIORGIA]

Oh for goodness sake!

Well you obviously arent watching the right interviews. I suggest you read her book. specifically Chapter two Page 37, then my side of the "argument" wont seem so "ridiculous" !
I totally agree with you My Friend(y):blush:!

[May]

Molto gentile Giorgia!!!;);)

[elvislady]

Oh for goodness sake!

Well you obviously arent watching the right interviews. I suggest you read her book. specifically Chapter two Page 37, then my side of the "argument" wont seem so "ridiculous" !

:lmfao::lmfao:may! or maybe ask "getlo" :lmfao:

elvislady

[debtdbruno]

She was a busy lady, keeping McQueen, Jim, and our man entertained............LOL

[Brian]

If priscilla just said it l would think it wasn't very true but l have read it from the Memphis mafia and books also.

Marty Lacker and Billy Smith both say Elvis just lost interest in her.

The whole Elvis couldn't or wouldn't touch mothers is untrue.

[Brian]

Well, in the interview I read, she did not ever once use the words "make love".

These arguments are getting ridiculous.......:doh:

*leaves thread*

Tony,

If you would like to read an interview where she specifically talks about it
go to epgold.com once you get there srcoll down the blue side bar on the left side of the page to where it says interviews then click on it.
There are two interviews with Barbara Leigh go to the second column and scroll down to where her name is then click on it and read it.
Her name is right under Tom Green's.

she uses the words make love and sex in that interview.

[May]

She was a busy lady, keeping McQueen, Jim, and our man entertained............LOL

Absolutely!! Very pretty also.(y)

[GIORGIA]

Molto gentile Giorgia!!!;);)
Wow My Lovely Friend:supriced:!
Good Italian(y)!
You are very sweet:blush:!

[GIORGIA]

Absolutely!! Very pretty also.(y)
Yeah!So Beautiful!
Look at the Social Group Elvis's Women,I put some pic of Barbara as she right now!

[Brian]

Actually yes, I heard that too. Am trying to remember where from :hmm:

It was just a story from a tabloid from 1973 or 1974. I think it was the National Enquirer.

Priscilla was quoted as saying that in that tabloid

[Brian]

she tells in her book the last time she spent the night with elvis was in the fall of 1974,she meet him in 1970 i dont know when he last slept with a lady in a antimate way.. she also dedicated her book to her son gerry haynes who died, 1964-1994.

elvislady

I thought they broke up in 1972?

[presley31]

Marty Lacker and Billy Smith both say Elvis just lost interest in her.

The whole Elvis couldn't or wouldn't touch mothers is untrue.

well this is where i'am going to disgree and leave it at that cause nobody really knows really happened in the bedroom scene with elvis and priscilla or the woman for that matter. Lots of people have known to lie so who knows what true and whats not.

[GIORGIA]

well this is where i'am going to disgree and leave it at that cause nobody really knows really happened in the bedroom scene with elvis and priscilla or the woman for that matter. Lots of people have known to lie so who knows what true and whats not.
Yeah,you are totally right!
I think the same thing!
Unfortunatelly a lots of people lie talking about Elvis only for the publicity:'(!

[Brian]

well this is where i'am going to disgree and leave it at that cause nobody really knows really happened in the bedroom scene with elvis and priscilla or the woman for that matter. Lots of people have known to lie so who knows what true and whats not.

We know

We shouldn't know but we do.

If Elvis was not interested in mother's like it's been claimed over and over again Elvis would not have dated Susan Henning, Barbara Leigh or Ann Penninton.

When Priscilla wrote that in her book other biographers wrote down as fact what she had written and it spread from there.
But I know it isn't true because of Susan Henning, Barbara Leigh and Ann Pennington and there may have been others.

[KPM]

Marty Lacker and Billy Smith both say Elvis just lost interest in her.

The whole Elvis couldn't or wouldn't touch mothers is untrue.
Well its hard to be in someones head and know their true thoughts-also what guy would go into detail about a hangup such as making love to woman who have children?
But perhaps the only real hangup was "making love to the mother of his own child" Now that could be...........it would have no effect on other woman being mothers. Freud where are you?:lol:

[presley31]

Well its hard to be in someones head and know their true thoughts-also what guy would go into detail about a hangup such as making love to woman who have children?
But perhaps the only real hangup was "making love to the mother of his own child" Now that could be...........it would have no effect on other woman being mothers. Freud where are you?:lol:

I so agree there. There is only one person who had elvis child and my opinion he didn't want her in the sexual way after Lisa was born.

[Brian]

Well its hard to be in someones head and know their true thoughts-also what guy would go into detail about a hangup such as making love to woman who have children?
But perhaps the only real hangup was "making love to the mother of his own child" Now that could be...........it would have no effect on other woman being mothers. Freud where are you?:lol:

Marty Lacker and Billy Smith claim to know Elvis innermost thoughts on pretty much every subject.
They say Elvis shared his thoughts with them.
make of that what you will.

It's been written in many books and talked about that Elvis couldn't be with anyone who had a child that is untrue.

Also Priscilla has reversed her story on this the last few years
I don't believe anything she says because she changes her stories on virtually everthing

[KPM]

Marty Lacker and Billy Smith claim to know Elvis innermost thoughts on pretty much every subject.
They say Elvis shared his thoughts with them
They may indeed no much of Elvis's "innermost thougths" on somethings no doubt-but I am going by what "innermost thoughts" I share with my brothers (and you can not get much closer than brothers) they know somethings-but not everything.......so I'm going by that personal observation.;)

[Brian]

They may indeed no much of Elvis's "innermost thougths" on somethings no doubt-but I am going by what "innermost thoughts" I share with my brothers (and you can not get much closer than brothers) they know somethings-but not everything.......so I'm going by that personal observation.;)




If you've read Revelations Marty, Billy and Lamar talk like Elvis was very crude and shared these details with them

[presley31]

If you've read Revelations Marty, Billy and Lamar talk like Elvis was very crude and shared these details with them

Doesn't mean they know everyone and yes priscilla is full of crap but not everyone is full of it who said the same thing too :) I would love to see some sources saying the books are untrue if that is what you saying:hmm:

[KPM]

Marty Lacker and Billy Smith claim to know Elvis innermost thoughts on pretty much every subject.
They say Elvis shared his thoughts with them.
make of that what you will.

It's been written in many books and talked about that Elvis couldn't be with anyone who had a child that is untrue.

Also Priscilla has reversed her story on this the last few years
I don't believe anything she says because she changes her stories on virtually everthing
Well who in the Elvis world has not a time or 2 since he died changed stories and tone?
I recall our thread about Marty and George Klein-and Martys description of George in his first book Portrait of a Friend and his assessment of George today-totally differing................
So I think its pretty universal to change stories, tone, or emphasis as people look back and rethink.
But that is not what this thread is about people changing stories.

[KPM]

If you've read Revelations Marty, Billy and Lamar talk like Elvis was very crude and shared these details with them
I own and have read the book.....interpretation..... even in this book Marty, Billy and Lamar do not all agree on their own remembrances of some things.
The story of Elvis and diapers comes to mind-where Lamar and Billy did not see eye to eye.
Sometimes you would think that they carried tape recorders and recorded all Elvis's exchanges with them-they remember so much.

[Genie]

I have read barbara leighs book and yes she and elvis did make love!

elvislady :D:P
To me, I have a problem with people (ladies I should say) who write books or make comments that they made love with Elvis.
I have always pointed out in my "Knowing" Elvis, that it was srtickly friendship and nothing more.
I can see where it seems strange and almost bizzare that you lay in bed with this beautiful man, sleep with him, go places with him, whatever the case might have been, and NOT make love... but 9 out of 10 claims, I really believe are not true. Wish I could claim I did, LOL:notworthy but, he was a perfect gentleman, and a wonderfully funny, caring personality that required a kiss on the cheek, and a light hug.. nothing else. He liked to "Talk"
He really needed that companionship thing, with the opposite sex.

[KPM]

I think Brian where you and I will always differ is on the idea that anyone-can somehow know all, understand all, interpret all thoughts and actions of another individual. It is not possible. You can know alot thru interaction, you can read between the lines when stories are similar and backed up by others-but there is no way on earth to know exactly the true thougths of someone else-no way. You know what others want you to know-and how they want you to see it. So I agree people close can learn alot, but not all.

[elvislady]

:P
To me, I have a problem with people (ladies I should say) who write books or make comments that they made love with Elvis.
I have always pointed out in my "Knowing" Elvis, that it was srtickly friendship and nothing more.
I can see where it seems strange and almost bizzare that you lay in bed with this beautiful man, sleep with him, go places with him, whatever the case might have been, and NOT make love... but 9 out of 10 claims, I really believe are not true. Wish I could claim I did, LOL:notworthy but, he was a perfect gentleman, and a wonderfully funny, caring personality that required a kiss on the cheek, and a light hug.. nothing else. He liked to "Talk"
He really needed that companionship thing, with the opposite sex.

:lmfao::lmfao: genie i thought you was going to tell me you knew a sex secret about elvis.. how silly of me to think that., of course you wouldnt know you only got a hug.


elvislady :lmfao::lmfao:

elvislady

[Sweet_One_E.]

I think it's true and he got over it, no big deal. by the time it was ok, she cheat and I thought I remember her saying in an interview "What you thought we never made love again? no that was not the case." sometimes people have temporary fears
now what are we disgussing? it may have been not as much as she needed emotionally

[debtdbruno]

I don't believe Elvis shared his innermost feelings/hangups on sex with any members of the MM...............he was too macho to discuss intimate details with other men

[Tommy]

I don't believe Elvis wanted any more children, he was to busy to really take care of a child, he was always on the road doing concerts, that's a tough life.

[johnbaron]

I remember reading somewhere that one time, in like 1971, Priscilla called Elvis and told him that she thought she was pregnant. Elvis was thrilled but Priscilla later called and said that the doctor told her she wasn't and that was the end of that

[Brian]

I think Brian where you and I will always differ is on the idea that anyone-can somehow know all, understand all, interpret all thoughts and actions of another individual. It is not possible. You can know alot thru interaction, you can read between the lines when stories are similar and backed up by others-but there is no way on earth to know exactly the true thougths of someone else-no way. You know what others want you to know-and how they want you to see it. So I agree people close can learn alot, but not all.

That's not what i'm saying at all.

I'm not saying they know all.

I'm saying since Elvis made love with other women who had a child it's untrue that he wasn't capable of making love with a woman that had had a child.


If Elvis wanted to be intimate with Priscilla he could've since he was with other women who did. I believe that he either just lost interest in her or she is completely lying.
Marty Lacker and Billy Smith say he just lost interest in Priscilla that collaborates the evidence.
So we have both Marty and Billy Smith on record saying that Elvis didn't have a problem with mothers it's just that he lost interest in Priscilla as a woman this is something i've discovered on my own but they say the same thing.
Priscilla has also changed her story on this so I feel she's unreliable.
I mean she either did or she didn't with Elvis but she can't make up her mind.

[Brian]

Well who in the Elvis world has not a time or 2 since he died changed stories and tone?
I recall our thread about Marty and George Klein-and Martys description of George in his first book Portrait of a Friend and his assessment of George today-totally differing................
So I think its pretty universal to change stories, tone, or emphasis as people look back and rethink.
But that is not what this thread is about people changing stories.

Priscilla has changed her stories a lot more than anyone in the Elvis world.
with the possible exception of David Stanley.

You never know what happened when Priscilla tells it.
over time she's changed her stories about everything

[Brian]

I don't believe Elvis wanted any more children, he was to busy to really take care of a child, he was always on the road doing concerts, that's a tough life.

He could pawn the child off on the mother or the maids like he did with Lisa Marie.

It's not like he would've been the only one around to raise a baby if he had another.
If he had a child with Linda Thompson she would've probably stopped going on tour with him and stayed home to care for the baby
While Elvis would be on the road off and on.

[mistymorning]

Oh for goodness sake!

Well you obviously arent watching the right interviews. I suggest you read her book. specifically Chapter two Page 37, then my side of the "argument" wont seem so "ridiculous" !


You are 100% right !!! this is the page of her book that she mentions clearly about their relationship.

http://www2.xlibris.com/book_excerpt.asp?bookid=13736


It's mentioned at the last few lines of the chapter.

[Sweet_One_E.]

such things must be painful for Priscilla to read

[debtdbruno]

Maybe that's a good excuse to go off and have an affair, by saying Elvis wasn't into 'Mothers'

[presley31]

I think Brian where you and I will always differ is on the idea that anyone-can somehow know all, understand all, interpret all thoughts and actions of another individual. It is not possible. You can know alot thru interaction, you can read between the lines when stories are similar and backed up by others-but there is no way on earth to know exactly the true thougths of someone else-no way. You know what others want you to know-and how they want you to see it. So I agree people close can learn alot, but not all.

agreed (y)(y)(y)(y)

[May]

well this is where i'am going to disgree and leave it at that cause nobody really knows really happened in the bedroom scene with elvis and priscilla or the woman for that matter. Lots of people have known to lie so who knows what true and whats not.

That is very true Presley 31(y)(y)

[May]

I think Brian where you and I will always differ is on the idea that anyone-can somehow know all, understand all, interpret all thoughts and actions of another individual. It is not possible. You can know alot thru interaction, you can read between the lines when stories are similar and backed up by others-but there is no way on earth to know exactly the true thougths of someone else-no way. You know what others want you to know-and how they want you to see it. So I agree people close can learn alot, but not all.

What a terrific post!:D

[May]

Priscilla has changed her stories a lot more than anyone in the Elvis world.
with the possible exception of David Stanley.

You never know what happened when Priscilla tells it.
over time she's changed her stories about everything

that is very true.(y)

[May]

You are 100% right !!! this is the page of her book that she mentions clearly about their relationship.

http://www2.xlibris.com/book_excerpt.asp?bookid=13736


It's mentioned at the last few lines of the chapter.

;);););)(y)

[KPM]

That's not what i'm saying at all.

I'm not saying they know all.

I'm saying since Elvis made love with other women who had a child it's untrue that he wasn't capable of making love with a woman that had had a child.


If Elvis wanted to be intimate with Priscilla he could've since he was with other women who did. I believe that he either just lost interest in her or she is completely lying.
Marty Lacker and Billy Smith say he just lost interest in Priscilla that collaborates the evidence.
So we have both Marty and Billy Smith on record saying that Elvis didn't have a problem with mothers it's just that he lost interest in Priscilla as a woman this is something i've discovered on my own but they say the same thing.
Priscilla has also changed her story on this so I feel she's unreliable.
I mean she either did or she didn't with Elvis but she can't make up her mind.
I've posted my thoughts on this-and added all I can- there is no sense in us repeating the same "opinions" over and over in mildly differing fashions.

[Tony Trout]

Tony,

If you would like to read an interview where she specifically talks about it
go to epgold.com once you get there srcoll down the blue side bar on the left side of the page to where it says interviews then click on it.
There are two interviews with Barbara Leigh go to the second column and scroll down to where her name is then click on it and read it.
Her name is right under Tom Green's.

she uses the words make love and sex in that interview.


Thanks, Brian.






I remember reading somewhere that one time, in like 1971, Priscilla called Elvis and told him that she thought she was pregnant. Elvis was thrilled but Priscilla later called and said that the doctor told her she wasn't and that was the end of that


I've never, ever read anything about that. Can you provide a source?




You are 100% right !!! this is the page of her book that she mentions clearly about their relationship.

http://www2.xlibris.com/book_excerpt.asp?bookid=13736


It's mentioned at the last few lines of the chapter.


Thanks.

[beckelvis]

That may be another reason why the marriage didn't work out. They weren't in tune with each other...Elvis was said to want several children.

Diane
(y)(y)(y)
I agree with you in all

[May]

Thanks, Brian.








I've never, ever read anything about that. Can you provide a source?






Thanks.

Thats ok Tony.

[Annie]

[I][B]Source, please?? I find this a bit far-fetched, actually.

yes, indeed, I too seems it's a bit far fetched. I searched the source where I read the news and this is the first cover of a magazine called "Modern Screen". She made this declarations after the death of Elvis, because it also appears the llitle Lisa with about 12 or 13 years. she didn't say they made love the day before the divorce.... but the same day the divorce. "Elvis made love to me the day we were dovorced" Priscilla shares their most tender moments .... obviously this is a tabloid magazine ...

[Brian]

I've posted my thoughts on this-and added all I can- there is no sense in us repeating the same "opinions" over and over in mildly differing fashions.

I repeated what I've said on this subject because you misunderstood it
so I restated it only I explained it a little better.

I get what you've been saying.

[GIORGIA]

Priscilla has changed her stories a lot more than anyone in the Elvis world.
with the possible exception of David Stanley.

You never know what happened when Priscilla tells it.
over time she's changed her stories about everything
True!Very True!

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

I don't believe Elvis shared his innermost feelings/hangups on sex with any members of the MM...............he was too macho to discuss intimate details with other men

I agree with the above, Elvis had an Image to live up to, I'm sure Elvis would have kept his inner most thoughts to himself like almost every individual on the planet. We all keep certain things to ourselves period.

There is a huge difference between being macho and bragging about your conquests to your friends in bravado. I could NEVER EVER see Elvis share information like impotency with Marty or Billy :blink:


He could pawn the child off on the mother or the maids like he did with Lisa Marie.

It's not like he would've been the only one around to raise a baby if he had another.
If he had a child with Linda Thompson she would've probably stopped going on tour with him and stayed home to care for the baby
While Elvis would be on the road off and on.

To be honest, Linda probably just got to Elvis whilst he was on the slippery slope, 12-18 month's down the road and having shared his life it might of been her opinion that having a baby with Elvis would have been a big risk?

You are correct it certainly wouldn't have been a problem to have another baby, there were plenty of people who could have took care of the child.

[GIORGIA]

I remember reading somewhere that one time, in like 1971, Priscilla called Elvis and told him that she thought she was pregnant. Elvis was thrilled but Priscilla later called and said that the doctor told her she wasn't and that was the end of that
Really?
Where you read or listen this?

[GIORGIA]

Marty Lacker and Billy Smith claim to know Elvis innermost thoughts on pretty much every subject.
They say Elvis shared his thoughts with them.
make of that what you will.

It's been written in many books and talked about that Elvis couldn't be with anyone who had a child that is untrue.

Also Priscilla has reversed her story on this the last few years
I don't believe anything she says because she changes her stories on virtually everthing
As I said before I agree with you about priscilla,
but I don't think that is true that marty and billy knows all about Elvis!
And of course I don't think that Elvis shared with them every subject,also the intimate subject.
Of course is My Opinion!

[GIORGIA]

I agree with the above, Elvis had an Image to live up to, I'm sure Elvis would have kept his inner most thoughts to himself like almost every individual on the planet. We all keep certain things to ourselves period.

There is a huge difference between being macho and bragging about your conquests to your friends in bravado. I could NEVER EVER see Elvis share information like impotency with Marty or Billy :blink:
As I have write before,I'm totally agree with you!

[debtdbruno]

He left enough of a legacy with LM...........she's the spit of him, without the added pressure of being his Son.

[Diane]

There is a huge difference between being macho and bragging about your conquests to your friends in bravado. I could NEVER EVER see Elvis share information like impotency with Marty or Billy :blink:

No he wouldn't have talked about impotency with anyone. He was too much the type of man who felt he had to act macho with the guys.

Diane

[debtdbruno]

No he wouldn't have talked about impotency with anyone. He was too much the type of man who felt he had to act macho with the guys.

Diane


Totally agree Diane, he was 'Head Honcho'.............there's no way he would have talked to another Man about sexual difficulties.
Heck, any Man would find it embarrasing, even to a doctor.

I'm sure I've seen it written in a book along with meds, that Dr Nick was giving him testosterone jabs. However, they could be for maintaining hair growth, keeping him more active, etc....not necessarily for sexual purposes

[Sweet_One_E.]

some men do make comments to their closest companions, not all men have a problem opening up to their guy friends

[debtdbruno]

There's not many men who would talk about sexual difficulties.............especially someone perceived as a sexual God like Elvis was

[GIORGIA]

There's not many men who would talk about sexual difficulties.............especially someone perceived as a sexual God like Elvis was
I'm Totally Agree with you!

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

some men do make comments to their closest companions, not all men have a problem opening up to their guy friends

No, not all men have a problem talking about personal issues, but when there is more pressure on you than the average man you might feel a little bit pressure?


There's not many men who would talk about sexual difficulties.............especially someone perceived as a sexual God like Elvis was

Agreed, when it comes to prowess it's more bravado than reality, especially if we are to believe the reality of Elvis' life. To be honest he was just your average guy when it comes to the bedroom department and given his status there was more pressure to deliver than any man around at the time. Little wonder women said he would prefer their company rather than be intimate.... Elvis would struggle to live up to Elvis' reputation.

[KPM]

I repeated what I've said on this subject because you misunderstood itso I restated it only I explained it a little better.

I get what you've been saying.
Well no.....I did not misunderstand it-I almost always understand what you post-I just usually don't agree;)

[Tony Trout]

As I said before I agree with you about priscilla,
but I don't think that is true that marty and billy knows all about Elvis!
And of course I don't think that Elvis shared with them every subject,also the intimate subject.
Of course is My Opinion!




Then you need to read, "Elvis Aaron Presley: Revelations From The Memphis Mafia", my friend.

Billy Smith is the one who spent the most time with Elvis during the last 18-24 months of his life and he says that Elvis shared things with him that he wouldn't dare shared with anyone else because he felt closest to Billy because he (Billy) was Elvis's cousin.




some men do make comments to their closest companions, not all men have a problem opening up to their guy friends

Agreed as in my reply above.




There's not many men who would talk about sexual difficulties.............especially someone perceived as a sexual God like Elvis was

Then I suggest that you re-read "Elvis Aaron Presley: Revelations From The Memphis Mafia" - it's a very revealing (sometimes too revealing) book. According to Billy Smith, Elvis did admit to having a "problem" - and this "problem" began as early as the early 1970s or most definitely by the mid-1970s.

[KPM]

Then you need to read, "Elvis Aaron Presley: Revelations From The Memphis Mafia", my friend.

Billy Smith is the one who spent the most time with Elvis during the last 18-24 months of his life and he says that Elvis shared things with him that he wouldn't dare shared with anyone else because he felt closest to Billy because he (Billy) was Elvis's cousin.





Agreed as in my reply above.





Then I suggest that you re-read "Elvis Aaron Presley: Revelations From The Memphis Mafia" - it's a very revealing (sometimes too revealing) book. According to Billy Smith, Elvis did admit to having a "problem" - and this "problem" began as early as the early 1970s or most definitely by the mid-1970s.
Well Billy was a special person to Elvis and I'm sure Elvis trusted him like a brother (probably above all the others)-but you notice Billy does not specify "the problem" so if Elvis just called it as such-that does leave a wide range of possible things in the sexual realm of life.
I know I have gone thru periods where things are not quite as I'd like in that area-but not permanently(and since you are not my brother Tony thats as much detail as I'll give:D)
Overall health, medications I have had to take, sleep problems, stress, worry, depression weight gain, artery disease all cause the same symptoms and, at times, one is impotency. Thats why wives and girlfriends came up with the timely phrase-"Don't worry honey, it happens"

[Sweet_One_E.]

sometimes I think it is more likely he did suffer from problems, his schedule alone would cause him to be so tired I think. both men and women suffer if they are exhausted. but just because a man has situations doesn't mean they are not sexy. sexy means alot of things

[KPM]

No, not all men have a problem talking about personal issues, but when there is more pressure on you than the average man you might feel a little bit pressure?



Agreed, when it comes to prowess it's more bravado than reality, especially if we are to believe the reality of Elvis' life. To be honest he was just your average guy when it comes to the bedroom department and given his status there was more pressure to deliver than any man around at the time. Little wonder women said he would prefer their company rather than be intimate.... Elvis would struggle to live up to Elvis' reputation.
Its like basketball great Wilt Chamberlain claiming he slept with 10,000 woman (or some such total) I often wondered after he made this claim how that affected him and his relationships-seems like it would put a lot of pressure on you to supposedly have so much experience. But the claim itself seems a bit much.

[debtdbruno]

No, not all men have a problem talking about personal issues, but when there is more pressure on you than the average man you might feel a little bit pressure?



Agreed, when it comes to prowess it's more bravado than reality, especially if we are to believe the reality of Elvis' life. To be honest he was just your average guy when it comes to the bedroom department and given his status there was more pressure to deliver than any man around at the time. Little wonder women said he would prefer their company rather than be intimate.... Elvis would struggle to live up to Elvis' reputation.


Thanks(y)(y)(y)(y)

[debtdbruno]

No, not all men have a problem talking about personal issues, but when there is more pressure on you than the average man you might feel a little bit pressure?



Agreed, when it comes to prowess it's more bravado than reality, especially if we are to believe the reality of Elvis' life. To be honest he was just your average guy when it comes to the bedroom department and given his status there was more pressure to deliver than any man around at the time. Little wonder women said he would prefer their company rather than be intimate.... Elvis would struggle to live up to Elvis' reputation.


Thanks (y)(y)(y)(y)

I have read 'Revelations' Tony.

[GIORGIA]

Then you need to read, "Elvis Aaron Presley: Revelations From The Memphis Mafia", my friend.

Billy Smith is the one who spent the most time with Elvis during the last 18-24 months of his life and he says that Elvis shared things with him that he wouldn't dare shared with anyone else because he felt closest to Billy because he (Billy) was Elvis's cousin.
First of all thank you for call Me,My Friend:blush:!
I have appreciated that:blush:!
And thank you for the advice.
But as I said before,and is that I would mean,I NOT believe in Billy!
Because I watch the E!True Hollywood Story and I don't liked the way he talking about his cousin,Elvis,and the fact that he talking about things to much intimate!
That anybody,and more his cousin don't do that!
And ,always My Feeling, for Me don't mean that this is write on the book,mean that is true!
Of course is My Feeling and My Opinion!