Is there anything fans don't know about Elvis

[Sweet_One_E.]

wow, much info here. what don't fans know??

[Genie]

wow, much info here. what don't fans know??

I hate to be the one to inform anyone of things they might not know about Elvis, but it is a thread and an Elvis topic...so I will spit out what little I know and see if everyone else knows already.
He was fighting Glaucoma in the one eye, and his ophalmologist said it would eventually affect the other eye as well.
It is hard to believe that the KING as sexy as he was, really wasn't a very sexual person. He would rather talk to you, lay with you, make love to a woman was just not one of his important details. Leaving some to think he might have been impotent later in years, say 1975-77. Or by choice?
He also had gray hair. Which can be verified by Larry geller or patty perry if she did his hair at that time, unsure?

[Brian]

I hate to be the one to inform anyone of things they might not know about Elvis, but it is a thread and an Elvis topic...so I will spit out what little I know and see if everyone else knows already.
He was fighting Glaucoma in the one eye, and his ophalmologist said it would eventually affect the other eye as well.
It is hard to believe that the KING as sexy as he was, really wasn't a very sexual person. He would rather talk to you, lay with you, make love to a woman was just not one of his important details. Leaving some to think he might have been impotent later in years, say 1975-77. Or by choice?
He also had gray hair. Which can be verified by Larry geller or patty perry if she did his hair at that time, unsure?

I'm sure most people on here have heard those stories before.

Elvis having Glaucoma in his eye is even mentioned on the EPE site elvis.com in the Elvis bio section.

[Genie]

I'm sure most people on here have heard those stories before.

Elvis having Glaucoma in his eye is even mentioned on the EPE site elvis.com in the Elvis bio section.

Agreed, but one never knows which fan does not know these things.. for example here is a stretch.. did you know that Elvis inhaled a loose crown?
It went into his lung...not down his throat! This is not good, he had to have a quick small inscision at the hospital to get it out!

[KPM]

I think its impossible for anyone to know everything there is to know about another human.
We can know a million things-but perhaps a million more are a mystery.
My wife knows me like a book after 36 years-yet she does not know it all.:D

[Pacerstar]

I hate to be the one to inform anyone of things they might not know about Elvis, but it is a thread and an Elvis topic...so I will spit out what little I know and see if everyone else knows already.
He was fighting Glaucoma in the one eye, and his ophalmologist said it would eventually affect the other eye as well.
It is hard to believe that the KING as sexy as he was, really wasn't a very sexual person. He would rather talk to you, lay with you, make love to a woman was just not one of his important details. Leaving some to think he might have been impotent later in years, say 1975-77. Or by choice?
He also had gray hair. Which can be verified by Larry geller or patty perry if she did his hair at that time, unsure?

I had read about the glaucoma before and I also have read about his hair
being gray. I saw 3 strands of what was told to me was his hair that a
friend of mine claimed to have plucked from the pillow of the bed in a
hotel room right after he had left. The roots of these stands were gray. I believe that Charlie Hodge said that he touched up the gray roots after
Elvis died. So, I don't think these two things are not commonly known.
I also have heard some of his girlfriends say that Elvis just liked to spend time
with them. But, for you to say that he was not a very sexual person and
to suggest impotency, how would you know this?:doh::doh::doh::doh:

[Pacerstar]

Agreed, but one never knows which fan does not know these things.. for example here is a stretch.. did you know that Elvis inhaled a loose crown?
It went into his lung...not down his throat! This is not good, he had to have a quick small inscision at the hospital to get it out!

I had heard about that before, too. Tell us something that we don't know,
Genie.:):):)

[Genie]

I think its impossible for anyone to know everything there is to know about another human.
We can know a million things-but perhaps a million more are a mystery.
My wife knows me like a book after 36 years-yet she does not know it all.:D

Well doggone it guys, I'm at least trying.... I think it's a neat thread..I'd like to read something I don't know..wouldn't you?
Let's see..we know Elvis hated blue jeans, but he wore them in Loving you..
ahhhh...he had stinky feet? LOL
He wasn't fond of cats..okay okay...I'm thinking.......

[Genie]

I had heard about that before, too. Tell us something that we don't know,
Genie.:):):)

My eye Dr was caught off guard..he is an Elvis fan and I told him that Elvis had Glaucoma in one eye...he was shocked.. it's then he told me, he would have had it in both. I thought that was interesting, terrible, but news. Ok..no dice..LOL

[Brian]

Agreed, but one never knows which fan does not know these things.. for example here is a stretch.. did you know that Elvis inhaled a loose crown?
It went into his lung...not down his throat! This is not good, he had to have a quick small inscision at the hospital to get it out!

Yeah

That's mentioned in several books and documentaries.

I think everything's been covered.

[Genie]

I had read about the glaucoma before and I also have read about his hair
being gray. I saw 3 strands of what was told to me was his hair that a
friend of mine claimed to have plucked from the pillow of the bed in a
hotel room right after he had left. The roots of these stands were gray. I believe that Charlie Hodge said that he touched up the gray roots after
Elvis died. So, I don't think these two things are not commonly known.
I also have heard some of his girlfriends say that Elvis just liked to spend time
with them. But, for you to say that he was not a very sexual person and
to suggest impotency, how would you know this?:doh::doh::doh::doh:

It was Larry Geller who touched up the grey when Elvis died. You are right, I do not have a definate knowledge of Elvis being imotent at 40-42 personally, but I have a friend who would know. Rats! I guess I have to bring her into it then? Also medically speaking, they didn't have viagra then..LOL and I have read many reports that Elvis would sleep with a girl but never make love to her.. (which I know is not a given fact)

[KPM]

Yeah

That's mentioned in several books and documentaries.

I think everything's been covered.
Yep he could hear a wheezing sound when he breathed and knew something was wrong.

[KPM]

It was Larry Geller who touched up the grey when Elvis died. You are right, I do not have a definate knowledge of Elvis being imotent at 40-42 personally, but I have a friend who would know. Rats! I guess I have to bring her into it then? Also medically speaking, they didn't have viagra then..LOL and I have read many reports that Elvis would sleep with a girl but never make love to her.. (which I know is not a given fact)
Well impotency can be total-and it can be occasional. Every man now or then has a problem. Sometimes its mental, sometimes its physical and sometimes a combination of both. How anyone could know the full truth on this and how it was with Elvis is probably not realistic. IMO
But I have read he had some problem in the last couple of years.

[Genie]

Well impotency can be total-and it can be occasional. Every man now or then has a problem. Sometimes its mental, sometimes its physical and sometimes a combination of both. How anyone could know the full truth on this and how it was with Elvis is probably not realistic. IMO
But I have read he had some problem in the last couple of years.

True. Being an RN and a woman married once or twice I know you speak the truth..LOL but we can assume the medication he took, also caused problems.. am I the only one who read somewhere that he was trying to cover up the fact he became diabetic?

[KPM]

True. Being an RN and a woman married once or twice I know you speak the truth..LOL but we can assume the medication he took, also caused problems.. am I the only one who read somewhere that he was trying to cover up the fact he became diabetic?
I do not recall that about being a diabetic.
In the book "Elvis Up Close" a panel of doctors went over his medical problems but I do not recall that being mentioned.
I recall an ulcer being mentioned, arthtitis of the neck and spine, pluerisy, among a few things I had not heard.....I'd have to reread it to remember all they talked about.

[Brian]

I do not recall that about being a diabetic.
In the book "Elvis Up Close" a panel of doctors went over his medical problems but I do not recall that being mentioned.
I recall an ulcer being mentioned, arthtitis of the neck and spine, pluerisy, among a few things I had not heard.....I'd have to reread it to remember all they talked about.

It was in an article someone had written where they said a list of stars were diabetic and Elvis was one of the one's that was mentioned.

The article was even posted on the Elvis Information Network a few years back.

The person that wrote the article where he mentioned Elvis was diabetic provided no sources or anything.

If Elvis was really diabetic I figure one of the Memphis Mafia guys or Dr.Nick would've mentioned it by now.

[Brian]

There are about 4 things that I now know about Elvis that I didn't until recently.

I bet a lot of fans still haven't heard about these things.

1. Johnny Cash wrote the song Get Rythm specifically for Elvis but because his contract had recently been sold to RCA Sam Phillips wouldn't let Elvis take the song with him and the song just ended up being a B-side to Cash's hit song ''I walk the Line''.
That's a shame because I think the song is a good rockabilly story song that probably would've been a hit and would've been a great song for Elvis' early career. When I first heard this story I was fascinated.

2. In Sonny West's 2007 book ''Still Taking care of Business'' he mentions that Don Siegel was so impressed with Elvis' performance in Flaming Star that several years later Mr.Siegel came backstage in Vegas to personally offer the role of Dirty Harry to Elvis but he had to decline because of his concert schedule.
When Elvis fans say which roles they wish Elvis had been offered one movie role that frequently comes up is Dirty Harry so it's interesting to me that Elvis was actually offered the role of Dirty Harry.
I must say i'm glad Clint Eastwood ended up with the role because it was a career defining one for him and I couldn't see anyone else doing it.

3. I did not know this until recently that Elvis was offered a role in a Japanese movie in 1966.


4. Barbara Streisand confirms the story about Elvis painting her toenails in Vegas on the A Star is Born DVD commentary.
When I first heard this story a few years ago I thought it was just some made up B.S.
I know a lot of fans felt the same but Streisand says it actually happened.
I was shocked.

[Merry]

There are about 3 things that I now know about Elvis that I didn't until recently.

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I would have ADORED Elvis as "Dirty Harry". I didn't know that one, nor about the others, thanks Brian.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/TWisely/elvis_beard.jpg



http://www.topnews.in/light/files/clint-eastwood-dirty-harry.JPG

[Hominuk]

Elvis as Dirty Harry....fascinating....I'll have to watch Flaming Star again, and refresh my memory. I agree, Clint Eastwood IS Dirty Harry!

[Tony Trout]

I hate to be the one to inform anyone of things they might not know about Elvis, but it is a thread and an Elvis topic...so I will spit out what little I know and see if everyone else knows already.
He was fighting Glaucoma in the one eye, and his ophalmologist said it would eventually affect the other eye as well.
It is hard to believe that the KING as sexy as he was, really wasn't a very sexual person. He would rather talk to you, lay with you, make love to a woman was just not one of his important details. Leaving some to think he might have been impotent later in years, say 1975-77. Or by choice?
He also had gray hair. Which can be verified by Larry geller or patty perry if she did his hair at that time, unsure?


This is all pretty common knowledge. All one has to do is watch several documentary DVDs and you'll find the answers.

As far as Elvis rather laying in bed with a woman than making love to her in the later years? I'd believe that one because I have also read (in "Revelations From The Memphis Mafia") that he had become impotent in the lsat couple of years. Even when he was with Linda Thompson (who, as we all know was a knockout beauty of a lady), she has said that he didn't even have intercourse with her much at all. to quote her: "Maybe once a year".




Agreed, but one never knows which fan does not know these things.. for example here is a stretch.. did you know that Elvis inhaled a loose crown?
It went into his lung...not down his throat! This is not good, he had to have a quick small inscision at the hospital to get it out!

Yes, this was during the filming of "Jailhouse Rock" and I believe that it was during the dance sequence that he helped choreograph.




I had read about the glaucoma before and I also have read about his hair
being gray. I saw 3 strands of what was told to me was his hair that a
friend of mine claimed to have plucked from the pillow of the bed in a
hotel room right after he had left. The roots of these stands were gray. I believe that Charlie Hodge said that he touched up the gray roots after
Elvis died. So, I don't think these two things are not commonly known.
I also have heard some of his girlfriends say that Elvis just liked to spend time
with them. But, for you to say that he was not a very sexual person and
to suggest impotency, how would you know this?:doh::doh::doh::doh:



It's mentioned in several books...."Elvis" by Albert Goldman and "Revelations From The Memphis Mafia" by Billy Smith, Marty Lacker and Lamar Fike are two books that come to mind.




Yeah

That's mentioned in several books and documentaries.

I think everything's been covered.


Agreed, Brian.




It was Larry Geller who touched up the grey when Elvis died. You are right, I do not have a definate knowledge of Elvis being imotent at 40-42 personally, but I have a friend who would know. Rats! I guess I have to bring her into it then? Also medically speaking, they didn't have viagra then..LOL and I have read many reports that Elvis would sleep with a girl but never make love to her.. (which I know is not a given fact)


Actually, that is a given fact that he'd rather lay in bed with a woman than make love to her.


True. Being an RN and a woman married once or twice I know you speak the truth..LOL but we can assume the medication he took, also caused problems.. am I the only one who read somewhere that he was trying to cover up the fact he became diabetic?

There has never been any evidence that Elvis was ever a full diabetic - he could've been a borderline diabetic, though, due to his eating habits I'm sure.

[Getlo]

I'm sure most people on here have heard those stories before.

I'm absolutely positive!! :rolleyes:

[Getlo]

Agreed, but one never knows which fan does not know these things.. for example here is a stretch.. did you know that Elvis inhaled a loose crown?
It went into his lung...not down his throat! This is not good, he had to have a quick small inscision at the hospital to get it out!

Please, Genie.

Most fans know this. Don't waste your energy starting all this up again. It's a tad embarrassing, really.

[Brian]

I'm absolutely positive!! :rolleyes:

Getlo, calm down man

[Getlo]

Well impotency can be total-and it can be occasional. Every man now or then has a problem.

Er, not every man, thank you!

[Getlo]

2. In Sonny West's 2007 book ''Still Taking care of Business'' he mentions that Don Siegel was so impressed with Elvis' performance in Flaming Star that several years later Mr.Siegel came backstage in Vegas to personally offer the role of Dirty Harry to Elvis but he had to decline because of his concert schedule.

I'm sure Sonny believes this, as Elvis would have said something when the movie came out.

I do not believe it is true, however.

Siegel was an astute director, and always picked his lead actors judiciously. But Elvis as Harry Callaghan? Come on!

I'm sure this was just a bit of exageration on Elvis' part.

[Brian]

I'm sure Sonny believes this, as Elvis would have said something when the movie came out.

I do not believe it is true, however.

Siegel was an astute director, and always picked his lead actors judiciously. But Elvis as Harry Callaghan? Come on!

I'm sure this was just a bit of exageration on Elvis' part.


I think it could be true and here is why

I have learned about Dirty Harry that Frank Sinatra was the first choice for the role and he was all set but he hurt his hand before shooting was to begin and pulled out.

John Wayne was offered the role but turned it down the role then passed on to several actors Steve Mcqueen, Henry Fonda, Robert Mitchum and Paul Newman.
Everybody and their mother was offered the role of Dirty Harry before Eastwood was.

Don Siegel having worked with Elvis before on Flaming Star and being happy with his performance he could've very well offered him the role at one point.

Like I said to me nobody could've done it better than Eastwood and if he couldn't of done it Steve Mcqueen would've been my second choice, but I could see Elvis as Dirty Harry more than Henry Fonda, Paul Newman, Frank Sinatra and John Wayne.

[May]

I had read about the glaucoma before and I also have read about his hair
being gray. I saw 3 strands of what was told to me was his hair that a
friend of mine claimed to have plucked from the pillow of the bed in a
hotel room right after he had left. The roots of these stands were gray. I believe that Charlie Hodge said that he touched up the gray roots after
Elvis died. So, I don't think these two things are not commonly known.
I also have heard some of his girlfriends say that Elvis just liked to spend time
with them. But, for you to say that he was not a very sexual person and
to suggest impotency, how would you know this?:doh::doh::doh::doh:

Im surprised Charlie said that. :doh: As far as I know it, he and Larry saw Elvis's body and it was Larry who did Elvis's hair and touched up the roots - him being his hairdresser :hmm::hmm:

[May]

I do not recall that about being a diabetic.
.

Diabetes is common to have when you have glaucoma. Although not everyone necessarily develops it. ;)

[elvislady]

Diabetes is common to have when you have glaucoma. Although not everyone necessarily develops it. ;)

There are a num of things that go with having diabetes...you can develop problems with your feet.. kidneys. i have to people in my family with type one diabetes.. one of them had to have a kidney transplant.. you have to lok after yourself no drinking..or in moderation.

elvislady :D

[Sweet_One_E.]

thanks for answering interesting

[May]

There are a num of things that go with having diabetes...you can develop problems with your feet.. kidneys. i have to people in my family with type one diabetes.. one of them had to have a kidney transplant.. you have to lok after yourself no drinking..or in moderation.

elvislady :D

Oh yes, I bet theres loads of things that set it off. I just meant that as we all know Elvis had glaucoma, I knew that diabetes was something that goes along with having that eye disorder. (y)

[Pacerstar]

True. Being an RN and a woman married once or twice I know you speak the truth..LOL but we can assume the medication he took, also caused problems.. am I the only one who read somewhere that he was trying to cover up the fact he became diabetic?

No!:D:D:D:D

[Pacerstar]

There are about 4 things that I now know about Elvis that I didn't until recently.

I bet a lot of fans still haven't heard about these things.

1. Johnny Cash wrote the song Get Rythm specifically for Elvis but because his contract had recently been sold to RCA Sam Phillips wouldn't let Elvis take the song with him and the song just ended up being a B-side to Cash's hit song ''I walk the Line''.
That's a shame because I think the song is a good rockabilly story song that probably would've been a hit and would've been a great song for Elvis' early career. When I first heard this story I was fascinated.

2. In Sonny West's 2007 book ''Still Taking care of Business'' he mentions that Don Siegel was so impressed with Elvis' performance in Flaming Star that several years later Mr.Siegel came backstage in Vegas to personally offer the role of Dirty Harry to Elvis but he had to decline because of his concert schedule.
When Elvis fans say which roles they wish Elvis had been offered one movie role that frequently comes up is Dirty Harry so it's interesting to me that Elvis was actually offered the role of Dirty Harry.
I must say i'm glad Clint Eastwood ended up with the role because it was a career defining one for him and I couldn't see anyone else doing it.

3. I did not know this until recently that Elvis was offered a role in a Japanese movie in 1966.


4. Barbara Streisand confirms the story about Elvis painting her toenails in Vegas on the A Star is Born DVD commentary.
When I first heard this story a few years ago I thought it was just some made up B.S.
I know a lot of fans felt the same but Streisand says it actually happened.
I was shocked.

I had heard about the Dirty Harry thing; but the others, I did not know.:D:D:D

[Pacerstar]

Im surprised Charlie said that. :doh: As far as I know it, he and Larry saw Elvis's body and it was Larry who did Elvis's hair and touched up the roots - him being his hairdresser :hmm::hmm:

I'm sorry. I think I said, I thought it was Charlie. Maybe I was wrong. But, I
do think I heard that Charlie had done this. I didn't mean to mislead anyone.:blush::blush:

[Diane]

I'm sorry. I think I said, I thought it was Charlie. Maybe I was wrong. But, I
do think I heard that Charlie had done this. I didn't mean to mislead anyone.:blush::blush:

No I don't think you're wrong. I'm sure I remember Charlie saying he re-touched Elvis hair in his book.

We may never know for sure who really did it as Larry is still alive and Charlie isn't around to argue the point.


Diane

[debtdbruno]

I'm sure Sonny believes this, as Elvis would have said something when the movie came out.

I do not believe it is true, however.

Siegel was an astute director, and always picked his lead actors judiciously. But Elvis as Harry Callaghan? Come on!

I'm sure this was just a bit of exageration on Elvis' part.


I think I agree Getlo.
I also can't see Frank Sinatra or Henry Fonda as 'Harry'

[debtdbruno]

I hate to be the one to inform anyone of things they might not know about Elvis, but it is a thread and an Elvis topic...so I will spit out what little I know and see if everyone else knows already.
He was fighting Glaucoma in the one eye, and his ophalmologist said it would eventually affect the other eye as well.
It is hard to believe that the KING as sexy as he was, really wasn't a very sexual person. He would rather talk to you, lay with you, make love to a woman was just not one of his important details. Leaving some to think he might have been impotent later in years, say 1975-77. Or by choice?
He also had gray hair. Which can be verified by Larry geller or patty perry if she did his hair at that time, unsure?

Wasn't testosterone one of the daily injections Dr Nick gave to Elvis?
You can assume his health, pills etc... had a lot to do with a decline in sexual activity.
Also, maybe it's the pressure of (as he said) 'Living up to the Image'.
He knew he was supposed to be the ultimate Sex symbol, and his insecurities about not performing upto womens expectations, would be very difficult to live with.

[May]

I'm sorry. I think I said, I thought it was Charlie. Maybe I was wrong. But, I
do think I heard that Charlie had done this. I didn't mean to mislead anyone.:blush::blush:

Thats ok ;) you're only saying what you read. No probs. (y) I can't remember where I saw it, but it was Larry talking and he said that he and Charlie had gone into the room where Elvis was lying (after Vernon had asked Larry to do Elvis's hair for the viewing at Graceland.) then one of the morticians apparently pulled back the sheet that was covering Elvis and revealed the autopsy scars and Charlie shouted at them to cover Elvis back up.

And it was then Larry realised elvis had some grey re-growth as they hadnt been on tour and therefore Elvis hadnt had his hair dyed recently, and he wasnt prepared for it. So Larry asked a woman if she had any mascara in her handbag (which she did) and he used that to touch up the roots.

Thats Larry's account of it anyway. I tend to believe him more than if Charlie said it, as if they were both there it would make more sense for Larry to be doing it.(y)

[debtdbruno]

Thats ok ;) you're only saying what you read. No probs. (y) I can't remember where I saw it, but it was Larry talking and he said that he and Charlie had gone into the room where Elvis was lying (after Vernon had asked Larry to do Elvis's hair for the viewing at Graceland.) then one of the morticians apparently pulled back the sheet that was covering Elvis and revealed the autopsy scars and Charlie shouted at them to cover Elvis back up.

And it was then Larry realised elvis had some grey re-growth as they hadnt been on tour and therefore Elvis hadnt had his hair dyed recently, and he wasnt prepared for it. So Larry asked a woman if she had any mascara in her handbag (which she did) and he used that to touch up the roots.

Thats Larry's account of it anyway. I tend to believe him more than if Charlie said it, as if they were both there it would make more sense for Larry to be doing it.(y)


You know what I don't get about that story May, is why hadn't Elvis had his roots done, knowing he was going on tour?
It seems unbelieavable that he would walk out onto a stage with 1/2 inch of re-growth of hair and sideburns.
I do wonder if this is a story Larry is 'enlarging' upon to make his own involvement more important

[May]

I think a lot of the MM exaggerate their importance in Elvis's life, so it wouldnt surprise me if Larry did this too.

Although, I dont know why, I tend to believe Larry. He always struck me as a little on the odd side (bless him) but I think I felt a bit sorry for him too, because he wasnt well-liked by the MM (apparently). I always feel for the "under-dog" hahaha

Who knows about his roots not being done. Perhaps he was due to have them done on the morning of the tour day? Could be a million reasons, I suppose. Maybe he just forgot, as he wasnt in a particularly good 'place' healthwise. Or maybe Larry is just making it up. We'll never know I guess.

[debtdbruno]

I think a lot of the MM exaggerate their importance in Elvis's life, so it wouldnt surprise me if Larry did this too.

Although, I dont know why, I tend to believe Larry. He always struck me as a little on the odd side (bless him) but I think I felt a bit sorry for him too, because he wasnt well-liked by the MM (apparently). I always feel for the "under-dog" hahaha
Who knows about his roots not being done. Perhaps he was due to have them done on the morning of the tour day? Could be a million reasons, I suppose. Maybe he just forgot, as he wasnt in a particularly good 'place' healthwise. Or maybe Larry is just making it up. We'll never know I guess.


:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[GIORGIA]

I do not recall that about being a diabetic.
I see an interview of Kathy and she said that Elvis had a diabetic,and I believe in Her.
Of course is My Opinion;).
I advice to all of you to see this interview!
Is a Wonderful Interview!

[May]

I love the way you always put "of course is my opinion" ....... you are so polite.;)(y)

Do you know if the interview is on the internet at all Georgia?

[Brian]

I posted a thread about this some time ago but barely got any responses
This is a story about Elvis I had never heard before until recently.

Apparently singer Ray Dorset of the band Mungo Jerry wrote a song for Elvis.

scroll down a little to read the story



http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=5676

[Pacerstar]

No I don't think you're wrong. I'm sure I remember Charlie saying he re-touched Elvis hair in his book.

We may never know for sure who really did it as Larry is still alive and Charlie isn't around to argue the point.


Diane

Thanks, Diane. I was sure that I had heard it was Charlie; but, not sure
enough to argue the point. I can't recall where I heard or read this either.
I just remember it as being Charlie.:D:D:D:D

[Pacerstar]

Thats ok ;) you're only saying what you read. No probs. (y) I can't remember where I saw it, but it was Larry talking and he said that he and Charlie had gone into the room where Elvis was lying (after Vernon had asked Larry to do Elvis's hair for the viewing at Graceland.) then one of the morticians apparently pulled back the sheet that was covering Elvis and revealed the autopsy scars and Charlie shouted at them to cover Elvis back up.

And it was then Larry realised elvis had some grey re-growth as they hadnt been on tour and therefore Elvis hadnt had his hair dyed recently, and he wasnt prepared for it. So Larry asked a woman if she had any mascara in her handbag (which she did) and he used that to touch up the roots.

Thats Larry's account of it anyway. I tend to believe him more than if Charlie said it, as if they were both there it would make more sense for Larry to be doing it.(y)

Thanks, May. I cannot recall just where I read or heard that it was Charlie;
but, either way, we all did know that Elvis' hair was gray. That was the point
I was trying to make. :D:D:D:D:D:D

[May]

Same as his dads hair........

[Pacerstar]

You know what I don't get about that story May, is why hadn't Elvis had his roots done, knowing he was going on tour?
It seems unbelieavable that he would walk out onto a stage with 1/2 inch of re-growth of hair and sideburns.
I do wonder if this is a story Larry is 'enlarging' upon to make his own involvement more important

Maybe that was one of the things he was going to do at the last minute.:D:D

[May]

I posted a thread about this some time ago but barely got any responses
This is a story about Elvis I had never heard before until recently.

Apparently singer Ray Dorset of the band Mungo Jerry wrote a song for Elvis.

scroll down a little to read the story



http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=5676

I love the name Mungo Jerry. :blush: It reminds me of "Mary, Mungo and Midge". Was that an English cartoon? Or has anyone else heard of it?

[GIORGIA]

I love the way you always put "of course is my opinion" ....... you are so polite.;)(y)

Do you know if the interview is on the internet at all Georgia?
Thank so much My Friend:blush:!
You are so sweet:blush:!

And yes,this interview is on you tube,just click your name and last name on you tube,
and you see the video where she have a red jacket,and this is the interview with 5 parts.

[elvislady]

I love the name Mungo Jerry. :blush: It reminds me of "Mary, Mungo and Midge". Was that an English cartoon? Or has anyone else heard of it?

may, i loved mary, mungo and midge... lol yes it was english as far as i remember!

elvislady :D

[May]

:lol:(y)(y)(y)

[hounddog]

I've read that he was allergic to chocolate. I'm sorry folks but i can't which MM said it.

[Pacerstar]

I've read that he was allergic to chocolate. I'm sorry folks but i can't which MM said it.

I, for one, had not heard this before. Thanks.:D:D:D:D

[Diane]

I, for one, had not heard this before. Thanks.:D:D:D:D

Allergic to chocolate and allergic to cats? Life wouldn't be worth living to me:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:


Diane

[Pacerstar]

Allergic to chocolate and allergic to cats? Life wouldn't be living to me:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:


Diane

I could live with the allergy to cats ; but, I gotta have my chocolate!(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[debtdbruno]

Allergic to chocolate and allergic to cats? Life wouldn't be worth living to me:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:


Diane


I could live with the allergy to cats ; but, I gotta have my chocolate!(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)


Too true.........no chocolate:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(

[debtdbruno]

I've read that he was allergic to chocolate. I'm sorry folks but i can't which MM said it.


Didn't the story go, how he ate chocolate on the plane when he went to meet Nixon.........that's why his face was puffy???

Deb

[Tony Trout]

Thats ok ;) you're only saying what you read. No probs. (y) I can't remember where I saw it, but it was Larry talking and he said that he and Charlie had gone into the room where Elvis was lying (after Vernon had asked Larry to do Elvis's hair for the viewing at Graceland.) then one of the morticians apparently pulled back the sheet that was covering Elvis and revealed the autopsy scars and Charlie shouted at them to cover Elvis back up.

And it was then Larry realized Elvis had some grey re-growth as they hadn't been on tour and therefore Elvis hadn't had his hair dyed recently, and he wasn't prepared for it. So Larry asked a woman if she had any mascara in her handbag (which she did) and he used that to touch up the roots.

Thats Larry's account of it anyway. I tend to believe him more than if Charlie said it, as if they were both there it would make more sense for Larry to be doing it.(y)


It was, in fact, Larry Geller who did Elvis's hair and touched up the roots - which were (IIRC from watching "The Last 24 Hours" DVD) about an inch thick with grey hair. He used a black mascara pen to touch up the roots. The lady at the mortuary/funeral home luckily had a black mascara pen because he had forgotten his dyes to bring with him because he didn't think he'd need them. And, I also remember watching where he said that the mortician did, in fact, pull back the sheet covering the body and accidentally showed them the autopsy V-incision across his chest and Larry freaked out and said, "What the **** are you doing?!?!?" and the morticians quickly covered the body back up.


I think a lot of the MM exaggerate their importance in Elvis's life, so it wouldnt surprise me if Larry did this too.

Although, I don't know why, I tend to believe Larry. He always struck me as a little on the odd side (bless him) but I think I felt a bit sorry for him too, because he wasn't well-liked by the MM (apparently). I always feel for the "under-dog" hahaha

Who knows about his roots not being done. Perhaps he was due to have them done on the morning of the tour day? Could be a million reasons, I suppose. Maybe he just forgot, as he wasnt in a particularly good 'place' health wise. Or maybe Larry is just making it up. We'll never know I guess.

I've always found it odd as to why Elvis didn't have his hair dyed before the 'tour that never was' - but I'm guessing that they were going to dye his hair sometime that day before they left for the tour but - we all know what happened. :'(:'(


I see an interview of Kathy and she said that Elvis had a diabetic,and I believe in Her.
Of course is My Opinion;).
I advice to all of you to see this interview!
Is a Wonderful Interview!

I respect your opinion but I have to strongly disagree here. Kathy is also the person (as well as Larry Geller and Charlie Hodge - God rest his soul) - who have vehemently believed that Elvis had bone cancer.

Sorry, but I wouldn't put much stock into what Kathy Westmoreland says. She was put to the test on the Larry King show a few years ago by several of the members of the Memphis Mafia (including Lacker, Fike and Schilling) and she was basically told to stop lying.

If Elvis had had any form of cancer, it would've shown up at the autopsy.


Thanks, Diane. I was sure that I had heard it was Charlie; but, not sure
enough to argue the point. I can't recall where I heard or read this either.
I just remember it as being Charlie.:D:D:D:D

It was Larry who re-did Elvis's hair and covered up the grey roots - not Charlie - but Charlie was in the room with the body when Larry re-touched Elvis's hair.


Didn't the story go, how he ate chocolate on the plane when he went to meet Nixon.........that's why his face was puffy???

Deb


No, according to Priscilla's book/biography, "Elvis & Me", he had suffered an allergic reaction to penicillin he was taking for a bad cold that he was suffering from (that begs the question: "Why would he go meet the President of the U.S. if he - Elvis - was suffering from a cold?). The 'chocolate' thing must've gotten started because of the parody movie, "Elvis Meets Nixon" from 1997.

[May]

Surely even if Kathy W was told to stop lying, that doesnt mean she was ??:doh:

[Tony Trout]

Surely even if Kathy W was told to stop lying, that doesn'tt mean she was ??:doh:

If there were any evidence whatsoever of cancer in Elvis's body, it would have shown up in the autopsy results. It's that simple. It's not rocket science.

According to her, Elvis apparently told Kathy sometime in 1970 that he had a "cancer-like" condition but my thinking is that he only used this as an excuse to hide the ever-increasing abuse of the drugs he was taking.

[GIORGIA]

I respect your opinion but I have to strongly disagree here. Kathy is also the person (as well as Larry Geller and Charlie Hodge - God rest his soul) - who have vehemently believed that Elvis had bone cancer.

Sorry, but I wouldn't put much stock into what Kathy Westmoreland says. She was put to the test on the Larry King show a few years ago by several of the members of the Memphis Mafia (including Lacker, Fike and Schilling) and she was basically told to stop lying.

If Elvis had had any form of cancer, it would've shown up at the autopsy.
I respect your opinion too,and I don't see this interview on Larry King where them tell this to Kathy,so I don't know,about this,
but I don't believe in Lacker and Fike!
For what are said about Elvis, and the way are talking about Elvis!
And For Me are never respect Elvis!
Sure I'm surprise that Shilling said that,but
I believe in Kathy.
My Opinion!

[GIORGIA]

Surely even if Kathy W was told to stop lying, that doesnt mean she was ??:doh:
True My Friend(y)!

[Genie]

I respect your opinion too,and I don't see this interview on Larry King where them tell this to Kathy,so I don't know,about this,
but I don't believe in Lacker and Fike!
For what are said about Elvis, and the way are talking about Elvis!
And For Me are never respect Elvis!
Sure I'm surprise that Shilling said that,but
I believe in Kathy.
My Opinion!

Oh Hold it there... pardon me but the people who told her to stop lying are the biggest liars this side of Texas!!!!
I don't belive she was lying at all, she had no reson to lie, and trust me, I have been callled a liar many times over and what I had to say was as true as truth can be.
After awhile, you loose interest in sharing these stories, or interesting FACTS because no one believes you know a thing! Kathy is so much more trustworthy thaan LACKER, I would lay my life down on that as the truth!
Shilling..(nope) Fike (nope)

[Genie]

If there were any evidence whatsoever of cancer in Elvis's body, it would have shown up in the autopsy results. It's that simple. It's not rocket science.

According to her, Elvis apparently told Kathy sometime in 1970 that he had a "cancer-like" condition but my thinking is that he only used this as an excuse to hide the ever-increasing abuse of the drugs he was taking.

Honey, I have to say this even if no one believes a word of it.. there are two seperate results of the autopsy report, and the family blocked some of it..also there is the fact that medicine was not as advanced as it is today...and they could have missed a lot.
Doesn't anyone ever wonder why the records are sealed? Why conflicting stories from professionals in forensic medicine?
No, it's not rocket science, but I could look at him, as many could, and see there was something much worse than what we knew for sure, and more reasons for pain than we were told. Elvis wasn't a cry baby, he was sweet and humble, and he did the best he could until the very end.

[Pacerstar]

It was, in fact, Larry Geller who did Elvis's hair and touched up the roots - which were (IIRC from watching "The Last 24 Hours" DVD) about an inch thick with grey hair. He used a black mascara pen to touch up the roots. The lady at the mortuary/funeral home luckily had a black mascara pen because he had forgotten his dyes to bring with him because he didn't think he'd need them. And, I also remember watching where he said that the mortician did, in fact, pull back the sheet covering the body and accidentally showed them the autopsy V-incision across his chest and Larry freaked out and said, "What the **** are you doing?!?!?" and the morticians quickly covered the body back up.



I've always found it odd as to why Elvis didn't have his hair dyed before the 'tour that never was' - but I'm guessing that they were going to dye his hair sometime that day before they left for the tour but - we all know what happened. :'(:'(



I respect your opinion but I have to strongly disagree here. Kathy is also the person (as well as Larry Geller and Charlie Hodge - God rest his soul) - who have vehemently believed that Elvis had bone cancer.

Sorry, but I wouldn't put much stock into what Kathy Westmoreland says. She was put to the test on the Larry King show a few years ago by several of the members of the Memphis Mafia (including Lacker, Fike and Schilling) and she was basically told to stop lying.

If Elvis had had any form of cancer, it would've shown up at the autopsy.



It was Larry who re-did Elvis's hair and covered up the grey roots - not Charlie - but Charlie was in the room with the body when Larry re-touched Elvis's hair.




No, according to Priscilla's book/biography, "Elvis & Me", he had suffered an allergic reaction to penicillin he was taking for a bad cold that he was suffering from (that begs the question: "Why would he go meet the President of the U.S. if he - Elvis - was suffering from a cold?). The 'chocolate' thing must've gotten started because of the parody movie, "Elvis Meets Nixon" from 1997.

Thanks for settling the question, Was it Larry or Charlie. :D:D:D:D:D:D

[Pacerstar]

Honey, I have to say this even if no one believes a word of it.. there are two seperate results of the autopsy report, and the family blocked some of it..also there is the fact that medicine was not as advanced as it is today...and they could have missed a lot.
Doesn't anyone ever wonder why the records are sealed? Why conflicting stories from professionals in forensic medicine?
No, it's not rocket science, but I could look at him, as many could, and see there was something much worse than what we knew for sure, and more reasons for pain than we were told. Elvis wasn't a cry baby, he was sweet and humble, and he did the best he could until the very end.

Good post.(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[Genie]

Thanks for settling the question, Was it Larry or Charlie. :D:D:D:D:D:D


Definately Larry(did E's Hair) and Elvis was alergic to codeine, and how interesting that he was given a huge envelope of this medication at the Dentist....MY MY oh God did he think it was just a fluke..not a serious alergy. Afterall peanuts and peanut butter killed many children before they came to grips with the fact that anaphalactic shock is not interested in the thing swallowed...it could be bubble gum!!

[Genie]

Didn't the story go, how he ate chocolate on the plane when he went to meet Nixon.........that's why his face was puffy???

Deb
Well, belive it or not, chocolate contains caffiene and caffiene is a derivitive of codiene and the fact his hair was not colored before hand, is a very interesting mishap!
It is almost as if Larry knew there would be no concert, and no need for the immediate job. Hair dressers do not like an instant fix, it's done only when MUST Do situation, as the newly dyed hair, hold an odor(back then) and the hair doesn't behave as well as the pro's like.
The MM to the most part are leeches hanging onto to every bit of info they make up or alter.. of course they know some things, but they have no right to dismiss other people who know facts also.

[Brian]

This whole cancer thing that Kathy Westmoreland tells over and over again might be the biggest bunch of B.S. ever told in the Elvis world.

If Elvis really did have cancer he would've told everyone around him not just Kathy or Kathy and Larry Gellar yet nobody else ever mentions anything about it. why? Because he didn't have bone cancer

Dr.Nick mentions several ailments that Elvis had but he never mentions bone cancer. why? because Elvis didn't have bone cancer.

Being that Elvis was a big star the media would've found out that he had bone cancer and it would've been in the newspapers and we would've heard about it back then. Yet the media never reported Elvis had bone cancer. why?
because he didn't have bone cancer.

Elvis was overweight in the mid 70's and at the end of his life if he had bone cancer he would've been really thin as the disease took it's toll so why was Elvis overweight at the end of his life? because he didn't have bone cancer.


I really wish Kathy Westmoreland would've stop saying Elvis had bone cancer when it's obvious he didn't and even if Elvis told her it was still quite clear from the subsequent years they worked together that he did not have bone cancer yet Kathy continues to peddle this story and why I don't know.

I bet Kathy really knows it isn't true but anyway this thread is about things we don't know about Elvis and we've all heard the bogus cancer story many times.

[May]

If there were any evidence whatsoever of cancer in Elvis's body, it would have shown up in the autopsy results. It's that simple. It's not rocket science.

According to her, Elvis apparently told Kathy sometime in 1970 that he had a "cancer-like" condition but my thinking is that he only used this as an excuse to hide the ever-increasing abuse of the drugs he was taking.

Yes i realise its not rocket science! Your previous post implied to me that the whole cancer issue wasnt the only thing Kathy lied about. I wasnt specifically talking about that one issue.

Plus, as far as the post mortem is concerned, people do cover up things they dont want the public to know.

[May]

Thanks for settling the question, Was it Larry or Charlie. :D:D:D:D:D:D

:lol::lol: ...... as I said........:D

[elvislady]

Honey, I have to say this even if no one believes a word of it.. there are two seperate results of the autopsy report, and the family blocked some of it..also there is the fact that medicine was not as advanced as it is today...and they could have missed a lot.
Doesn't anyone ever wonder why the records are sealed? Why conflicting stories from professionals in forensic medicine?
No, it's not rocket science, but I could look at him, as many could, and see there was something much worse than what we knew for sure, and more reasons for pain than we were told. Elvis wasn't a cry baby, he was sweet and humble, and he did the best he could until the very end.

I dont believe kathy was lying she thought to much of elvis to lie about him!

elvislady (y)

[May]

Another one of those things elvislady, its just all a matter of who and what you believe.;)(y)

[elvislady]

Another one of those things elvislady, its just all a matter of who and what you believe.;)(y)

agreed may! :D

elvislady

[LISY]

Well the only thing I know for sure about Elvis is he was one of the best entertainers that ever lived.....In my book THE best.....and certainly one of the most charismatic and gorgeous....and that he died too young.... and that I love his music, and that seeing on him on screen gives me goosebumps. oh and I think it's safe to say he dyed his hair!!LOL

[May]

good post Lisy!!

[Getlo]

Oh Hold it there... pardon me but the people who told her to stop lying are the biggest liars this side of Texas!!!!

They managed to catch you out, nonetheless.


After awhile, you loose interest in sharing these stories, or interesting FACTS because no one believes you know a thing!

People only say that when the person telling the stories refuses to back themselves up with any evidence, or offers "new" infromation that can be readily gathered from many sources.


The MM to the most part are leeches hanging onto to every bit of info they make up or alter.. of course they know some things, but they have no right to dismiss other people who know facts also.

Hmm, they kinda do when the "facts" are easily disproven with things like dates, places and general knowledge.

[EnigmaticSun]

The Memphis Mafia - they should be the most loveable sympathetic creatures known to man. They don't even have self-interest in their vocabulary.

I'm not too sure about all these hidden facts, but it's good to strive for discovery of something that was always hidden.

Charlie Hodge and Kathy ("sing it, Kathy!") have been much more loving, kind and respectful whenever sharing their memories of Elvis. That's why my French blood tells me to argue with the MM and some members on this board! (y)

[debtdbruno]

This whole cancer thing that Kathy Westmoreland tells over and over again might be the biggest bunch of B.S. ever told in the Elvis world.

If Elvis really did have cancer he would've told everyone around him not just Kathy or Kathy and Larry Gellar yet nobody else ever mentions anything about it. why? Because he didn't have bone cancer

Dr.Nick mentions several ailments that Elvis had but he never mentions bone cancer. why? because Elvis didn't have bone cancer.

Being that Elvis was a big star the media would've found out that he had bone cancer and it would've been in the newspapers and we would've heard about it back then. Yet the media never reported Elvis had bone cancer. why?
because he didn't have bone cancer.

Elvis was overweight in the mid 70's and at the end of his life if he had bone cancer he would've been really thin as the disease took it's toll so why was Elvis overweight at the end of his life? because he didn't have bone cancer.


I really wish Kathy Westmoreland would've stop saying Elvis had bone cancer when it's obvious he didn't and even if Elvis told her it was still quite clear from the subsequent years they worked together that he did not have bone cancer yet Kathy continues to peddle this story and why I don't know.

I bet Kathy really knows it isn't true but anyway this thread is about things we don't know about Elvis and we've all heard the bogus cancer story many times.

For once, I totally agree with you there.
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Deb

[Sweet_One_E.]

not the cancer story. oh dear, why wasn't it in the autopsy report. why would an expert docotr lie ? has to be a reason right? wouldn't it make more sense to tell truth to make public more sympathetic. sounds like something Kathy fell for and wants to believe but can't provide truth.

[Tony Trout]

This whole cancer thing that Kathy Westmoreland tells over and over again might be the biggest bunch of B.S. ever told in the Elvis world.

If Elvis really did have cancer he would've told everyone around him not just Kathy or Kathy and Larry Gellar yet nobody else ever mentions anything about it. why? Because he didn't have bone cancer

Dr.Nick mentions several ailments that Elvis had but he never mentions bone cancer. why? because Elvis didn't have bone cancer.

Being that Elvis was a big star the media would've found out that he had bone cancer and it would've been in the newspapers and we would've heard about it back then. Yet the media never reported Elvis had bone cancer. why?
because he didn't have bone cancer.

Elvis was overweight in the mid 70's and at the end of his life if he had bone cancer he would've been really thin as the disease took it's toll so why was Elvis overweight at the end of his life? because he didn't have bone cancer.


I really wish Kathy Westmoreland would've stop saying Elvis had bone cancer when it's obvious he didn't and even if Elvis told her it was still quite clear from the subsequent years they worked together that he did not have bone cancer yet Kathy continues to peddle this story and why I don't know.

I bet Kathy really knows it isn't true but anyway this thread is about things we don't know about Elvis and we've all heard the bogus cancer story many times.


Thank you, Brian. I agree with every word - especially what I have bolded.

The fact is, truly, bone cancer patients absolutely do not gain weight such as Elvis Presley did in his final years! They basically waste away to nothing but a shell of their former self - trust me, I know this because I painfully and sadly watched my dear Grandfather on my Mother's side of my family suffer with it for four years before he passed away in 1991. It's not a pretty sight, people.




I dont believe kathy was lying she thought to much of elvis to lie about him!

elvislady (y)


Sorry to tell you this but....she was lying like a rug.

Why people can't see through her outright lies is beyond me....:blink:

[Pacerstar]

I dont believe kathy was lying she thought to much of elvis to lie about him!

elvislady (y)

It is possible that Elvis thought he had bone cancer and told Cathy that.
I do agree that if he had actually had it that it would have shown up in the
autopsy. But, sometimes a person can diagnose themselves with a disease
and really be convinced that they have it. :D:D:D:D

[Sweet_One_E.]

I think she believed who told her. she went through a lot with Elvis and she rejected him and he does not like rejection so he was mean to her. maybe she wants to believe it to make excuses for him. poor thing, I feel sorry for her. she wants to be special and in the know. many around him seem like that.

[GIORGIA]

Oh Hold it there... pardon me but the people who told her to stop lying are the biggest liars this side of Texas!!!!
I don't belive she was lying at all, she had no reson to lie, and trust me, I have been callled a liar many times over and what I had to say was as true as truth can be.
After awhile, you loose interest in sharing these stories, or interesting FACTS because no one believes you know a thing! Kathy is so much more trustworthy thaan LACKER, I would lay my life down on that as the truth!
Shilling..(nope) Fike (nope)
I agree with you!
Like I said before!
But as I said before I think that Fike is Lie too Like Lacker!
My Opinion!

[GIORGIA]

I dont believe kathy was lying she thought to much of elvis to lie about him!

elvislady (y)
I also agree with you!

[GIORGIA]

Well the only thing I know for sure about Elvis is he was one of the best entertainers that ever lived.....In my book THE best.....and certainly one of the most charismatic and gorgeous....and that he died too young.... and that I love his music, and that seeing on him on screen gives me goosebumps. oh and I think it's safe to say he dyed his hair!!LOL
(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
:blush::blush::blush::blush::blush:

[GIORGIA]

[/B][/I]






Sorry to tell you this but....she was lying like a rug.

Why people can't see through her outright lies is beyond me....:blink:
I respect your opinion,but as I said before I disagree with this.
Because I believe in Kathy!
And I don't believe in MM!At All!

[Pacerstar]

(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
:blush::blush::blush::blush::blush:

That is really all we need to know, Lisy, IMO.(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[GIORGIA]

That is really all we need to know, Lisy, IMO.(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
Yes!
Just This!

[elvislady]

Sorry to tell you this but....she was lying like a rug.

Why people can't see through her outright lies is beyond me....
__________________

tony i would like you to prove kathy was "lying like a rug" i have never heard this expression before, why should i believe your comment!

elvislady :hmm::hmm:

[annie1000]

Well the only thing I know for sure about Elvis is he was one of the best entertainers that ever lived.....In my book THE best.....and certainly one of the most charismatic and gorgeous....and that he died too young.... and that I love his music, and that seeing on him on screen gives me goosebumps. oh and I think it's safe to say he dyed his hair!!LOL

(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[Sweet_One_E.]

she is ill-informed, don't think she is purposely lying. she has no good sources, just heresay to prove it. that doesn't hold up

[Tony Trout]

Sorry to tell you this but....she was lying like a rug.

Why people can't see through her outright lies is beyond me....
__________________

tony i would like you to prove kathy was "lying like a rug" i have never heard this expression before, why should i believe your comment!

elvislady :hmm::hmm:


You would like for me to prove it? Ok....she was on the U.S. talk show "Larry King Live" along with Lacker and Fike and Schilling and was told by all three men that Elvis did not have bone cancer - and she still vehemently told them that he did, in fact, have it and, to my recollection, Marty Lacker and all three of them told her "Stop your lies, Kathy! It's not true!" (or words to that effect).

If I can locate the transcript from the show, I'll post it here.....

FOUND IT!


KING: We're back. This is like old home week, Marty Lacker knows my father-in-law, Carl Anchorman (ph), worked with him on producing records. Kathy Westmoreland knows my mother-in-law, Gerri, worked with her, right?

WESTMORELAND: Wonderful person.

KING: You have thoughts about Elvis' passing?

WESTMORELAND: Yes, I do, well, because of what he told me and what doctors who saw him while I was with him told me...

KING: Which is?

WESTMORELAND: Which is -- when I first met him, he told me that he knew exactly how much time he had, that he thought he was going to die at the age of 42, close to the age of his mother, her -- it was in her family, her father, grandfather, her whole family is not -- they were born with a heart that was twice the size on one side as it was on the other, and he also told me that he had bone cancer.

LACKER: He didn't have bone cancer.

WESTMORELAND: And he...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He didn't have bone cancer.

KING: He didn't?

LACKER: No, he didn't have bone cancer. Let me tell you where that came from. After Elvis died, there was a lot of stuff being leaked out of Graceland. And Elvis' father asked Billy Smith to tell a couple of the guys that Elvis had cancer to see if it came out. And that's what happened. And I believe that's where Kathy...

KING: But she said Elvis told her he had it.

WESTMORELAND: He told me when I first met him.

LACKER: Elvis had a good imagination, Kathy.There ya go....Kathy got 'outed" for her lies right there on national television, so to speak.

Marty is correct when he says that the cancer rumor got started after Elvis died. Vernon Presley did, in fact, tell Billy Smith that Elvis had cancer to see if it would leak out so that Vernon could somehow find out what killed Elvis (this was before the autopsy report wasn't completely finished and sealed from the public's view).

I'll say this again from my own personal experience of watching my grandfather die from this horrible disease: people with bone cancer do not gain as much weight as Elvis did in his final years - they waste away to absolutely nothing. It was absolutely heartbreaking to watch him slip away like that - but it was a blessing when he passed because I knew in my heart that he (my grandfather) was no longer in pain and was in a better place.

[May]

I think I understand what elvislady means. We arent saying Lamar, Marty and Jerry didnt do all that. But just because they did, what makes three people right and one person wrong?

On the surface, yes, if its three against one, you would tend to lean towards believing the majority. But it doesnt necessarily mean the three of THEM are being honest.

To be honest, Im not bothered one way or another about the whole true/false cancer story, and wouldnt have a clue who to believe, but no one can prove Kathy was lying, just from a piece of film footage surely

[Unchained Melody]

You would like for me to prove it? Ok....she was on the U.S. talk show "Larry King Live" along with Lacker and Fike and Schilling and was told by all three men that Elvis did not have bone cancer - and she still vehemently told them that he did, in fact, have it and, to my recollection, Marty Lacker and all three of them told her "Stop your lies, Kathy! It's not true!" (or words to that effect).

If I can locate the transcript from the show, I'll post it here.....

FOUND IT!

There ya go....Kathy got 'outed" for her lies right there on national television, so to speak.

Marty is correct when he says that the cancer rumor got started after Elvis died. Vernon Presley did, in fact, tell Billy Smith that Elvis had cancer to see if it would leak out so that Vernon could somehow find out what killed Elvis (this was before the autopsy report wasn't completely finished and sealed from the public's view).

I'll say this again from my own personal experience of watching my grandfather die from this horrible disease: people with bone cancer do not gain as much weight as Elvis did in his final years - they waste away to absolutely nothing. It was absolutely heartbreaking to watch him slip away like that - but it was a blessing when he passed because I knew in my heart that he (my grandfather) was no longer in pain and was in a better place.



How is it Kathy was outed for her lies on national television...Its lackers word against hers...:doh:

[Tony Trout]

I think I understand what elvislady means. We arent saying Lamar, Marty and Jerry didnt do all that. But just because they did, what makes three people right and one person wrong?

On the surface, yes, if its three against one, you would tend to lean towards believing the majority. But it doesnt necessarily mean the three of THEM are being honest.

To be honest, Im not bothered one way or another about the whole true/false cancer story, and wouldnt have a clue who to believe, but no one can prove Kathy was lying, just from a piece of film footage surely



The fact is that it does bother me when lies are spread about Elvis - especially vicious and untrue rumors/lies like the false cancer story.

I'll say it iagain: Elvis did not have bone cancer. If he had, he would've been onstange performing as a very, very, very thin man - almost skeleton-like - as the disease took it's toll on his body.

Either way, I'm out of this discussion.

Where's Getlo when you need him.....




How is it Kathy was outed for her lies on national television...Its lackers word against hers...


"Larry King Live" is a nationally syndicated talk show which is shown to millions all over the world. I was watching the show the night (i actually recorded it) and I was so glad to see Kathy finally be 'put in her place' and told that she was lying about the cancer story.

The truth is that the ball really got started rolling about the cancer story when Vernon asked Billy Smith (I'm not sure if MissyM can back me up on this but the fact is, I'd choose to believe the people who were around Elvis most every single day than someone who only saw him during the tours.

I'm leaving this discussion, period. :angry:

The facts are there...people have chosen to ignore them...that's not my problem to deal with.

See y'all, later.

[elvislady]

You would like for me to prove it? Ok....she was on the U.S. talk show "Larry King Live" along with Lacker and Fike and Schilling and was told by all three men that Elvis did not have bone cancer - and she still vehemently told them that he did, in fact, have it and, to my recollection, Marty Lacker and all three of them told her "Stop your lies, Kathy! It's not true!" (or words to that effect).

If I can locate the transcript from the show, I'll post it here.....

FOUND IT!

There ya go....Kathy got 'outed" for her lies right there on national television, so to speak.

Marty is correct when he says that the cancer rumor got started after Elvis died. Vernon Presley did, in fact, tell Billy Smith that Elvis had cancer to see if it would leak out so that Vernon could somehow find out what killed Elvis (this was before the autopsy report wasn't completely finished and sealed from the public's view).

I'll say this again from my own personal experience of watching my grandfather die from this horrible disease: people with bone cancer do not gain as much weight as Elvis did in his final years - they waste away to absolutely nothing. It was absolutely heartbreaking to watch him slip away like that - but it was a blessing when he passed because I knew in my heart that he (my grandfather) was no longer in pain and was in a better place.





ok so you posted the script...kathy did not admit to them all she was lying here, unless she said herself yea i am lying he didnt tell me he had bone cancer..then yes you can say she was lying..this proves to me any one of the 4 could be lying!

elvislady :hmm::hmm:

[Sweet_One_E.]

I looked it up, she was with him in the early 70's, if he told her he had it then, he would have died much earlier. bone cancer takes people faster than 5-7 years. he would have had chemo and wasted away to nothing in about 1-2 years. the progress of bone cancer supports the MM words, not hers. I like the women but medical facts disprove her story alone

[May]

The fact is that it does bother me when lies are spread about Elvis - especially vicious and untrue rumors/lies.


.....

I think you're onto a a loser if you want to stop that happening. Rumours will always surround Elvis. True or untrue. that's just life.

I dont think saying Elvis had bone cancer is vicious.:doh:

[May]

ok so you posted the script...kathy did not admit to them all she was lying here, unless she said herself yea i am lying he didnt tell me he had bone cancer..then yes you can say she was lying..this proves to me any one of the 4 could be lying!

elvislady :hmm::hmm:

Exactly.
I wouldnt believe everything that comes out of the mouth of any of the MM. People lie. Fact.

Im not saying they are lying, but I certainly wouldnt believe everything they say!

[Tony Trout]

I looked it up, she was with him in the early 70's, if he told her he had it then, he would have died much earlier. bone cancer takes people faster than 5-7 years. he would have had chemo and wasted away to nothing in about 1-2 years. the progress of bone cancer supports the MM words, not hers. I like the women but medical facts disprove her story alone



THANK YOU! This is exactly what I've been tryin' to say but - no one choses to see the truth.

[elvislady]

THANK YOU! This is exactly what I've been tryin' to say but - no one choses to see the truth.

I am not saying he had bone cancer i am saying i dont think kathy would lie about elvis telling her he had it...it makes no diffrence if he told her in the early 70s or not.. if he told her this and he didnt have it... kathy is not lying that elvis told her he had it..


elvislady :doh::doh:

[May]

THANK YOU! This is exactly what I've been tryin' to say but - no one choses to see the truth.

I dont see why you are getting upset. No one is saying you are lying. People just have a different opinion from yours.:doh:

[elvislady]

I dont see why you are getting upset. No one is saying you are lying. People just have a different opinion from yours.:doh:

Right may, and mine is i dont believe kathy was lying...end of!

elvislady

[May]

And that's fair enough. It's your opinion, and up to you who you choose to believe.

[EnigmaticSun]

You can have your opinion, but Kathy's view on Elvis was correct - at least as far as singing is concerned. Few have accurately described and explained what there is to like about his vocals during the last period of his life. Anyone should have to admit she is sincere concerning the artistic side of the deal.

If Elvis didn't have bone cancer, he might have been forced to believe so. It could be another painful condition such as arthritis led him to believe it.

Kathy is not a liar like those who claim Elvis is still alive or their father - this is something different! At least she stayed with him 'til the end and didn't write derogatory articles or books.

[Unchained Melody]

I dont see why you are getting upset. No one is saying you are lying. People just have a different opinion from yours.:doh:

I don't either. Did you ever think maybe Charlie, or Kathy or whoever believes Elvis did die of bone cancer may be because its hard for them to accept he died of drug overdose, and it was easier for them to believe he really was terminally ill...:supriced:

[Diane]

I don't believe Elvis had bone cancer but I can believe that he would tell Kathy that. He may have thought at the time that he had it. Charlie said the same thing that Kathy did but I can't remember from his book where he said he heard it.

Diane

[GIORGIA]

I dont see why you are getting upset. No one is saying you are lying. People just have a different opinion from yours.:doh:
So True My Friend!

[GIORGIA]

Right may, and mine is i dont believe kathy was lying...end of!

elvislady
I think the same thing!
As I said before,I believe in Kathy!
And I don't believe in mm!
At All!
For the all things that them said about Elvis!
The way all things said about Elvis!
And them are NEVER RESPECT OUR LOVE ELVIS!
And I think that Elvis trust more of Kathy that the mm!
Of course My Opinion!

[elvislady]

I don't believe Elvis had bone cancer but I can believe that he would tell Kathy that. He may have thought at the time that he had it. Charlie said the same thing that Kathy did but I can't remember from his book where he said he heard it.

Diane

Diane i read this to.

This is what charlie hodge said about kathy westmorland..

You can count on one hand the people qualified to talk about elvis and you can count on the fact that kathy westmorland knows what she,s talking about!

This is from kathys book...Elvis and Kathy.


elvislady :D

[GIORGIA]

"lying like a rug"
Is the same phrase that Elvis said(joking) before He start to sing the Beautiful Song:Why Night My Love?

[elvislady]

Is the same phrase that Elvis said(joking) before He start to sing the Beautiful Song:Why Night My Love?

Thanks for explaing this to me giorgia. :D

elvislady

[debtdbruno]

The fact is that it does bother me when lies are spread about Elvis - especially vicious and untrue rumors/lies like the false cancer story.

I'll say it iagain: Elvis did not have bone cancer. If he had, he would've been onstange performing as a very, very, very thin man - almost skeleton-like - as the disease took it's toll on his body.
Either way, I'm out of this discussion.

Where's Getlo when you need him.....







"Larry King Live" is a nationally syndicated talk show which is shown to millions all over the world. I was watching the show the night (i actually recorded it) and I was so glad to see Kathy finally be 'put in her place' and told that she was lying about the cancer story.

The truth is that the ball really got started rolling about the cancer story when Vernon asked Billy Smith (I'm not sure if MissyM can back me up on this but the fact is, I'd choose to believe the people who were around Elvis most every single day than someone who only saw him during the tours.

I'm leaving this discussion, period. :angry:

The facts are there...people have chosen to ignore them...that's not my problem to deal with.

See y'all, later.

I agree Tony, I've had various family members and some friends die from Cancer........they all go skelatal in apperarance
Elvis did not have Cancer


Deb

[GIORGIA]

Thanks for explaing this to me giorgia. :D

elvislady
My Pleasure My Friend!

[Brian]

I am not saying he had bone cancer i am saying i dont think kathy would lie about elvis telling her he had it...it makes no diffrence if he told her in the early 70s or not.. if he told her this and he didnt have it... kathy is not lying that elvis told her he had it..


elvislady :doh::doh:


The thing is Kathy Westmoreland is going around saying Elvis had bone cancer
It's not like she's just saying Elvis told her he had cancer.

As other posters and myself have said if Elvis had bone cancer he would've died a lot sooner than 1977 if he had it.
If Kathy is going to make up stuff about Elvis at least make it believeable and not something like this.

[May]

Can we not move on about the whole bone cancer issue? :blink:Surely the topic is, is there anything fans dont know about Elvis. We all know about the bone cancer, true or not, and we are just going round in circles moaning because others dont share our opinion.

Some believe Kathy. Some dont.

What can anyone tell me that I didnt already know about Elvis.??:hmm::hmm::D

[Brian]

What can anyone tell me that I didnt already know about Elvis.??:hmm::hmm::D

right

This thread has got way off topic and it got that way real quick.

No one besides me and a couple of others even attempted to answer the topic in this thread.

I bet a lot of fans haven't heard about this

1. Marty Lacker on the Aek ng has said Larry Gellar tried to talk Elvis into starting his own religion in the mid 60's and Gellar would've been the one going around signing people up to join.

2. It has been rumored for years that Elvis rehearsed the song ''We Had it all'' at Stax but couldn't get a satisfactory take of it.
Marty Lacker said that he brought a Dobie Gray LP to the session with the song ''We had it all'' on it Elvis loved the song and listened to it about 30 times in a row praising the song as being beautiful. Everybody in the studio thought he was going to record it only they were surprised when Elvis said he couldn't record the song because people would think he was singing about Priscilla.
David Briggs and Norman Putnam who owned the publishing on the song were disappointed.

[May]

right

This thread has got way off topic and it got that way real quick.

No one besides me and a couple of others even attempted to answer the topic in this thread.

.

I expect a lot of people dont want to state 'unknown facts' in case others say "yeh yeh, we all know about that".

Besides, not everyone has to say they 'know' things just to join in. :P

[Brian]

I expect a lot of people dont want to state 'unknown facts' in case others say "yeh yeh, we all know about that".

Besides, not everyone has to say they 'know' things just to join in. :P

Those are true about Larry Gellar especially.

We had it all is true.

I've heard that story from David Briggs as well.

It's all true.

When confirming a story you must have 2 independent sources
and a lot of things in the Elvis World all we have to go on is what someone says.


When are you going to learn May.

Why don't you try and contribute something to this thread

[debtdbruno]

Elvis may have been concerned about 'We had it all'..........but look at 'Separate Ways', 'For the Good Times' etc....
Everyone associates them with Elvis' melancoly state of mind. Wonder why he thought that one was different?

[elvislady]

The thing is Kathy Westmoreland is going around saying Elvis had bone cancer
It's not like she's just saying Elvis told her he had cancer.

As other posters and myself have said if Elvis had bone cancer he would've died a lot sooner than 1977 if he had it.
If Kathy is going to make up stuff about Elvis at least make it believeable and not something like this.

Brian there you go again... read my comment that you quoted me again please..

[elvislady]

I expect a lot of people dont want to state 'unknown facts' in case others say "yeh yeh, we all know about that".

Besides, not everyone has to say they 'know' things just to join in. :P

well said may..i dont know a lot of things about elvis , i learn them from people here!

elvislady :D

[Brian]

Elvis may have been concerned about 'We had it all'..........but look at 'Separate Ways', 'For the Good Times' etc....
Everyone associates them with Elvis' melancoly state of mind. Wonder why he thought that one was different?

different day , different mood

[Genie]

Brian there you go again... read my comment that you quoted me again please..

;) Lets say Kathy was told and she knew for a fact.. facts that Elvis supplied to her. Not just an opimnion, or hearsay?
I wish she hadn't brought that up, but then again, she was trying to show his reasoning for the blaoting, the pills and the pain we all saw him in near the last concert.. and during most definately the last concert.
Bone cancer is a horrible thing, but you do not always die of it.. you could loose a great portion of your body, an arm a leg, facial structure, I don't recall her saying exactly where this cancer was and was he receiving any treatment for it?
We should not as fans, and/or even compassonate people automatically consider Kathy a liar. Boy do I ever know how that works..

[Getlo]

Where's Getlo when you need him......

Right here, TT. You're doing fine.

[Sweet_One_E.]

medical information and facts disprove her story no matter who told her. science trumps heresay

[May]

Those are true about Larry Gellar especially.

We had it all is true.

I've heard that story from David Briggs as well.

It's all true.

When confirming a story you must have 2 independent sources
and a lot of things in the Elvis World all we have to go on is what someone says.


When are you going to learn May.

Why don't you try and contribute something to this thread

Why do you feel the need to be rude Brian?:hmm::hmm:

[malc07]

Please lets keep this thread Friendly Friends. !

[May]

Thank you Malc.(y)(y)

[presley31]

Please lets keep this thread Friendly Friends. !

I didn't even know you were a mod Malc:supriced: they couldn't picked a better person than you my friend. :hug:

[malc07]

Jen ((((((((((((Hugs))))))))))

[May]

I didn't even know you were a mod Malc:supriced: they couldn't picked a better person than you my friend. :hug:

:lol: Malc's like 007, you dont even know he's there watching!!!! ;););)

[May]

well said may..i dont know a lot of things about elvis , i learn them from people here!

elvislady :D

:hug::hug:

[Kiki]

I hate to be the one to inform anyone of things they might not know about Elvis, but it is a thread and an Elvis topic...so I will spit out what little I know and see if everyone else knows already.
He was fighting Glaucoma in the one eye, and his ophalmologist said it would eventually affect the other eye as well.
It is hard to believe that the KING as sexy as he was, really wasn't a very sexual person. He would rather talk to you, lay with you, make love to a woman was just not one of his important details. Leaving some to think he might have been impotent later in years, say 1975-77. Or by choice?
He also had gray hair. Which can be verified by Larry geller or patty perry if she did his hair at that time, unsure?

http://www.guenther-schmitz.de/smilies/gross/g78.gif oh wow, Elvis would it Loved to be here by us, and see
what his fans writing about him......very nice

[elvislady]

Please lets keep this thread Friendly Friends. !

ok malc seeen as its you we will do our best! (y)(y)

elvislady :D

[Diane]

Generally I like Larry Geller and I appreciate the fact that he was there for Elvis when Elvis needed someone to talk to but I do feel that he has a bit of an ego and embellishes his stories to make himself look better than he was.

Diane

[elvislady]

Generally I like Larry Geller and I appreciate the fact that he was there for Elvis when Elvis needed someone to talk to but I do feel that he has a bit of an ego and embellishes his stories to make himself look better than he was.

Diane

I agree diane , i think if you look back there are many more like him to, but i do like him.

elvislady :D

[elvislady]

;) Lets say Kathy was told and she knew for a fact.. facts that Elvis supplied to her. Not just an opimnion, or hearsay?
I wish she hadn't brought that up, but then again, she was trying to show his reasoning for the blaoting, the pills and the pain we all saw him in near the last concert.. and during most definately the last concert.
Bone cancer is a horrible thing, but you do not always die of it.. you could loose a great portion of your body, an arm a leg, facial structure, I don't recall her saying exactly where this cancer was and was he receiving any treatment for it?
We should not as fans, and/or even compassonate people automatically consider Kathy a liar. Boy do I ever know how that works..

what this got to do with my comment to brian?

elvislady :hmm:

[Diane]

I agree diane , i think if you look back there are many more like him to, but i do like him.

elvislady :D

Yes there are!:)

Diane

[J.P]

It is hard to believe that the KING as sexy as he was, really wasn't a very sexual person. He would rather talk to you, lay with you, make love to a woman was just not one of his important details. Leaving some to think he might have been impotent later in years, say 1975-77. Or by choice?


say what??!!:supriced::supriced::supriced: alrighty then and how do you know that? wasn't a very sexual person...oh man!! :blink: dunno where you get yer information... what information??? :P

[Kiki]

say what??!!:supriced::supriced::supriced: alrighty then and how do you know that? wasn't a very sexual person...oh man!! :blink: dunno where you get yer information... what information??? :P

Thank you http://www.guenther-schmitz.de/smilies/gross/g11.gif http://www.guenther-schmitz.de/smilies/gross/g08.gif

[4THEHEART]

there's no way and no need to know everything about anyone,plus every individual has a right to keep some things or parts of their life to themselves.Funniest thing is when fans talk in a certain way while they can only be his/her personal views on matters cause all we can do is to guess or judge by our own mentality which is an empty work.Elvis was a sincere and up to a point open person and that should be enough.Love and respect goes along,so let some of his life be his only.

[debtdbruno]

You're right, it's none of our business what Elvis was like in the bedroom.
However, as a woman, I'm afraid I have a totally unabashed interest in what Elvis was like as a lover............I make no apologies for that. Most women on here would love to know the same.

[4THEHEART]

You're right, it's none of our business what Elvis was like in the bedroom.
However, as a woman, I'm afraid I have a totally unabashed interest in what Elvis was like as a lover............I make no apologies for that. Most women on here would love to know the same.

ha ha ! sweet and honest(y)..well, you too have a right to make some brain exercise on any subject;)..wishing you nice guessings..:)

[Merry]

there's no way and no need to know everything about anyone,plus every individual has a right to keep some things or parts of their life to themselves.Funniest thing is when fans talk in a certain way while they can only be his/her personal views on matters cause all we can do is to guess or judge by our own mentality which is an empty work.Elvis was a sincere and up to a point open person and that should be enough.Love and respect goes along,so let some of his life be his only.


Well said, honey :hug: :hug: You don't say much, when you do, it's always so very good to read what you say. :hug: :D (y)

We all just need a "Little More Love" if some people had this, they wouldn't feel the need to run Elvis down, they would be fulfilled, it's sad for them (really); or, as Elvis said: "TLC". "Tender Loving Care" it really does make the difference.

Elvis' life should be private, everything special is, and Elvis was, and unless people knew him, they couldn't possibly have known. :hug: :king: :wub:

[Pacerstar]

there's no way and no need to know everything about anyone,plus every individual has a right to keep some things or parts of their life to themselves.Funniest thing is when fans talk in a certain way while they can only be his/her personal views on matters cause all we can do is to guess or judge by our own mentality which is an empty work.Elvis was a sincere and up to a point open person and that should be enough.Love and respect goes along,so let some of his life be his only.

I totally agree.(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[May]

there's no way and no need to know everything about anyone,plus every individual has a right to keep some things or parts of their life to themselves.Funniest thing is when fans talk in a certain way while they can only be his/her personal views on matters cause all we can do is to guess or judge by our own mentality which is an empty work.Elvis was a sincere and up to a point open person and that should be enough.Love and respect goes along,so let some of his life be his only.

What a great post(y)

[Diane]

there's no way and no need to know everything about anyone,plus every individual has a right to keep some things or parts of their life to themselves.Funniest thing is when fans talk in a certain way while they can only be his/her personal views on matters cause all we can do is to guess or judge by our own mentality which is an empty work.Elvis was a sincere and up to a point open person and that should be enough.Love and respect goes along,so let some of his life be his only.


I totally agree. I feel the only time anyone should know as much as they can about someone's personal life is when they hope to marry that person....for safety sake if nothing else - but the rest of the world has no need to know it all...even about their favorite actor/performer etc. Their image is what they present and that should be enough.

Diane

[Genie]

Well said, honey :hug: :hug: You don't say much, when you do, it's always so very good to read what you say. :hug: :D (y)

We all just need a "Little More Love" if some people had this, they wouldn't feel the need to run Elvis down, they would be fulfilled, it's sad for them (really); or, as Elvis said: "TLC". "Tender Loving Care" it really does make the difference.

Elvis' life should be private, everything special is, and Elvis was, and unless people knew him, they couldn't possibly have known. :hug: :king: :wub:



;) AMEN, Amen and Amen. "Just a little more love"

[J.P]

there's no way and no need to know everything about anyone,plus every individual has a right to keep some things or parts of their life to themselves.Funniest thing is when fans talk in a certain way while they can only be his/her personal views on matters cause all we can do is to guess or judge by our own mentality which is an empty work.Elvis was a sincere and up to a point open person and that should be enough.Love and respect goes along,so let some of his life be his only.

you read my mind!!! (y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

[GIORGIA]

there's no way and no need to know everything about anyone,plus every individual has a right to keep some things or parts of their life to themselves.Funniest thing is when fans talk in a certain way while they can only be his/her personal views on matters cause all we can do is to guess or judge by our own mentality which is an empty work.Elvis was a sincere and up to a point open person and that should be enough.Love and respect goes along,so let some of his life be his only.
You read in My Mind too:blush:!

[Kiki]

there's no way and no need to know everything about anyone,plus every individual has a right to keep some things or parts of their life to themselves.Funniest thing is when fans talk in a certain way while they can only be his/her personal views on matters cause all we can do is to guess or judge by our own mentality which is an empty work.Elvis was a sincere and up to a point open person and that should be enough.Love and respect goes along,so let some of his life be his only.

I thank you, you read in my Heart http://s17.rimg.info/7594440124d9cc421d757150cbb2c506.gif (http://smiles.26l.de/smile.143667.html)

[spanish eyes]

there's no way and no need to know everything about anyone,plus every individual has a right to keep some things or parts of their life to themselves.Funniest thing is when fans talk in a certain way while they can only be his/her personal views on matters cause all we can do is to guess or judge by our own mentality which is an empty work.Elvis was a sincere and up to a point open person and that should be enough.Love and respect goes along,so let some of his life be his only.


I totally agree with you. (y)

IMO I don't understand the need to delve into Elvis' private life, Elvis had a right to just breathe and be himself off-stage. Regardless of his status when it comes down to it, he was a human being just like the rest of us and was entitled to keep his private life private. Elvis gave so much to his fans and he gave it with love, so I show my love for him by respecting his private life and leaving it as his and his alone.

[EnigmaticSun]

there's no way and no need to know everything about anyone

I totally agree with you - and this doesn't even concern BillyGilmanFans!

That I would love to have an eventual endoscopy filmed and brought to television is my choice and there's no reason to make others do just that.

[mistymorning]

there's no way and no need to know everything about anyone,plus every individual has a right to keep some things or parts of their life to themselves.Funniest thing is when fans talk in a certain way while they can only be his/her personal views on matters cause all we can do is to guess or judge by our own mentality which is an empty work.Elvis was a sincere and up to a point open person and that should be enough.Love and respect goes along,so let some of his life be his only.

Great post ! honest and to the point !Love and respect goes along !!!(y)

[annie1000]

there's no way and no need to know everything about anyone,plus every individual has a right to keep some things or parts of their life to themselves.Funniest thing is when fans talk in a certain way while they can only be his/her personal views on matters cause all we can do is to guess or judge by our own mentality which is an empty work.Elvis was a sincere and up to a point open person and that should be enough.Love and respect goes along,so let some of his life be his only.

(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y):notworthy:notworthy

[lvs2day]

i would just like to say that i've bin a fan for over 40 years and i'm still learning things about him almost daily especially with the advent of the internet , and even from younger more inspired fans , so i would guess that noone knows it all , although some think they do , but it sure is fun to find out things you never knew before or have a new perspective of it, many thanx to all the great fans that contribute their thoughts , stories etc..

[May]

i would just like to say that i've bin a fan for over 40 years and i'm still learning things about him almost daily especially with the advent of the internet , and even from younger more inspired fans , so i would guess that noone knows it all , although some think they do , ..

:lmfao: thats for sure.(y)

[Pacerstar]

I had never heard this until I just read it on Elvis PresleyNews.com. At 13 Elvis took
out a marriage liscense to marry his sweetheart, Magdaline Morgan. Does anyone know if
this is for real?

[Diane]

I've never heard of that but it sounds like a young Elvis doesn't it?:lol:


Diane

[GIORGIA]

I had never heard this until I just read it on Elvis PresleyNews.com. At 13 Elvis took
out a marriage liscense to marry his sweetheart, Magdaline Morgan. Does anyone know if
this is for real?
Yes,is true!
I heard this too and in a Elvis's Documentary this Girl,now a woman:P,talk about this,
but sorry,now I don't rember the title of this Documentary!
Beautiful Documentary!

[Pacerstar]

I've never heard of that but it sounds like a young Elvis doesn't it?:lol:


Diane

Yes, it does. He was a ladies' man at 13! Sweet! :D:D:D:D:D:D

[Pacerstar]

Yes,is true!
I heard this too and in a Elvis's Documentary this Girl,now a woman:P,talk about this,
but sorry,now I don't rember the title of this Documentary!
Beautiful Documentary!

Thanks, Georgia. I stopped watching most of the documentaries; so, I guess
that is why I missed this.:D:D:D:D:D:D

[debtdbruno]

I've heard it too.............can't for the life of me remember where

[EnigmaticSun]

He was a ladies' man at 13! Sweet!

Hey I'm a ladies man too.. but rather as in being one of the girls.. ;)

I had never heard of that story. What a strange world it was!

[Merry]

Hey I'm a ladies man too.. but rather as in being one of the girls.. ;)

I had never heard of that story. What a strange world it was!


:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao: :hug: :D

[Merry]

I had never heard this until I just read it on Elvis PresleyNews.com. At 13 Elvis took
out a marriage liscense to marry his sweetheart, Magdaline Morgan. Does anyone know if
this is for real?


I don't know about the above, however, if true, the whole thing is tender and I love it :D :hug:

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Hey I'm a ladies man too.. but rather as in being one of the girls.. ;)

I had never heard of that story. What a strange world it was!

I'm sure you are sweet, too!(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

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I don't know about the above, however, if true, the whole thing is tender and I love it :D :hug:

I'll bet is gave Gladys a start! But, they married young sometimes down South.:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Getlo]

If it isn't in Guralnick or Day By Day, then it's a safe bet to assume it isn't true at all.

[Merry]

I'll bet is gave Gladys a start! But, they married young sometimes down South.:D:D:D:D:D:D


I was asked at five years old, lol :D :D :D I said "yes" lol (y)

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I was asked at five years old, lol :D :D :D I said "yes" lol (y)

Well, maybe not THAT young, Kimme!:D:D:D:D:D:D

[shelley.m.]

I had never heard this until I just read it on Elvis PresleyNews.com. At 13 Elvis took
out a marriage liscense to marry his sweetheart, Magdaline Morgan. Does anyone know if
this is for real?

Elvis found Vernon and Gladys marriage certificate and filled out the blank lines with his name and "Magdline's" name on it.Good thing she never held Elvis to his word.

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Elvis found Vernon and Gladys marriage certificate and filled out the blank lines with his name and "Magdline's" name on it.Good thing she never held Elvis to his word.

Yeah! If he had married at that age, things would surely have been different
for his life, career and Rock and Roll! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[shelley.m.]

I have read that Elvis had a scar under his left eye.Does anyone know if that was true or not?

[Brian]

I have read that Elvis had a scar under his left eye.Does anyone know if that was true or not?

Yeah

I heard he got it by attempting to do his own stunt work or some scene for Roustabout.

[Donut]

I had never heard this until I just read it on Elvis PresleyNews.com. At 13 Elvis took
out a marriage liscense to marry his sweetheart, Magdaline Morgan. Does anyone know if
this is for real?

Bill Burk tells that story in his book 'Early Elvis-The Tupelo years'. Magdalene Morgan didn't even know the marriage license existed untill the 90's.

http://www.thehistorybluff.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/magdalene_morgan_elvis_licence_display.jpghttp://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7110/young4px.jpg

[elvispresleytheking]

throw in political views

[tcbeus]

I have this TomBigBee County Magazine(TCM's seventh anniversary issue) from Tupelo.There's a 4 pages story in it and pictures of Magdalene Morgan.

[wildflower]

In my opinion, sometimes it's better NOT to know EVERYTHING about someone- even Elvis
:-)

ELVIS FOREVER!

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Bill Burk tells that story in his book 'Early Elvis-The Tupelo years'. Magdalene Morgan didn't even know the marriage license existed untill the 90's.

http://www.thehistorybluff.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/magdalene_morgan_elvis_licence_display.jpghttp://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7110/young4px.jpg

I guess he was just day-dreaming and doodling! Still sweet!:D:D:D:D

[GIORGIA]

Bill Burk tells that story in his book 'Early Elvis-The Tupelo years'. Magdalene Morgan didn't even know the marriage license existed untill the 90's.

http://www.thehistorybluff.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/magdalene_morgan_elvis_licence_display.jpghttp://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7110/young4px.jpg
Yes!Is This the Documentary!
The Early Days.
Thank you!

[GIORGIA]

If it isn't in Guralnick or Day By Day, then it's a safe bet to assume it isn't true at all.
Sorry,Getlo but is true.
Look at the post of Donut.

[tcbeus]

I have this TomBigBee County Magazine(TCM's seventh anniversary issue) from Tupelo.There's a 4 pages story in it and pictures of Magdalene Morgan.

Here's the first page i was reffering to:
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc315/presleyplace/elv.jpg

I can upload the rest of it ,if someone interested.

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Here's the first page i was reffering to:
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc315/presleyplace/elv.jpg

I can upload the rest of it ,if someone interested.

That is very interesting. Thanks for posting the picture.:D:D:D:D:D:D

[screamindiva]

Hi

Thanks for all your threads, I just wanted to ask a question, I do not know where I heard it? be it a rumour? a lie made up by aliens, or whoever?? Didn't Elvis not like to be intimate with woman often, because he use to be in pain after? and he would bleed? Maybe needed to be circumcised?

I don't know? as I said I think I read it somewhere?? Has anyone else heard this??
Also the kind of medication Elvis was on would have caused impotence, add to that depression, self image, and all that other stuff, know wonder Elvis didn't feel amarous very often, also he had woman throwing themselves at him, maybe he got a bit bored of that? A bit like a kid who eats to many chocolate bar's, at some point you gonna get sick of it.

Anyway I like this thread, so what if I've heard it before, at least it's got people talking, be it positive, sarcastic, or non descript!!!

Take Care all

G xx

[GIORGIA]

Hi

Thanks for all your threads, I just wanted to ask a question, I do not know where I heard it? be it a rumour? a lie made up by aliens, or whoever?? Didn't Elvis not like to be intimate with woman often, because he use to be in pain after? and he would bleed? Maybe needed to be circumcised?

I don't know? as I said I think I read it somewhere?? Has anyone else heard this??
Also the kind of medication Elvis was on would have caused impotence, add to that depression, self image, and all that other stuff, know wonder Elvis didn't feel amarous very often, also he had woman throwing themselves at him, maybe he got a bit bored of that? A bit like a kid who eats to many chocolate bar's, at some point you gonna get sick of it.

Anyway I like this thread, so what if I've heard it before, at least it's got people talking, be it positive, sarcastic, or non descript!!!

Take Care all

G xx
:blink::blink::blink::blink:

[debtdbruno]

Hi

Thanks for all your threads, I just wanted to ask a question, I do not know where I heard it? be it a rumour? a lie made up by aliens, or whoever?? Didn't Elvis not like to be intimate with woman often, because he use to be in pain after? and he would bleed? Maybe needed to be circumcised?

I don't know? as I said I think I read it somewhere?? Has anyone else heard this??
Also the kind of medication Elvis was on would have caused impotence, add to that depression, self image, and all that other stuff, know wonder Elvis didn't feel amarous very often, also he had woman throwing themselves at him, maybe he got a bit bored of that? A bit like a kid who eats to many chocolate bar's, at some point you gonna get sick of it.

Anyway I like this thread, so what if I've heard it before, at least it's got people talking, be it positive, sarcastic, or non descript!!!

Take Care all

G xx


Yes, I've heard that too Grace


Deb

[GIORGIA]

Yes, I've heard that too Grace


Deb
Really?
I don't believe in that!At All!
But who is tell this?

[screamindiva]

Hi
I really don't remeber where I read it? a book maybe? or a artical in a mag? that's why I posted it to see if any other person had seen it, read it, or heard about it?

G xx

[GIORGIA]

Hi
I really don't remeber where I read it? a book maybe? or a artical in a mag? that's why I posted it to see if any other person had seen it, read it, or heard about it?

G xx
Don't worry!
Can happen;)!

[Brian]

Hi
I really don't remeber where I read it? a book maybe? or a artical in a mag? that's why I posted it to see if any other person had seen it, read it, or heard about it?

G xx

I think it was mentioned by Lamar Fike in Revelations of the Memphis Mafia.

[screamindiva]

Thanks Brian,
Don't know how true it is? but I'm sure people post there views.

G xx

[Brian]

I heard the story about Elvis making up a fake marriage certificate a few years back because it was reported on some sites.

I think that lady is exaggerating saying that if Elvis would of stayed in Tupelo they would've gotten married for real. Yeah right!!!

[franny]

In my opinion, sometimes it's better NOT to no EVERYTHING about someone- even Elvis
:-)

ELVIS FOREVER!

Well said, wildflower. (y)

franny

[Diane]

I heard the story about Elvis making up a fake marriage certificate a few years back because it was reported on some sites.

I think that lady is exaggerating saying that if Elvis would of stayed in Tupelo they would've gotten married for real. Yeah right!!!

Most of the women Elvis knew say that he wanted to marry "them".:lol:


Diane

[Lisarose]

Bill Burk tells that story in his book 'Early Elvis-The Tupelo years'. Magdalene Morgan didn't even know the marriage license existed untill the 90's.

http://www.thehistorybluff.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/magdalene_morgan_elvis_licence_display.jpghttp://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7110/young4px.jpg

Interesting write up here:
http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/magdalene_morgan.shtml

[May]

In my opinion, sometimes it's better NOT to know EVERYTHING about someone- even Elvis
:-)

ELVIS FOREVER!

A very good point. (y)

[tcbeus]

Here's the rest of the articles Lisarose:
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc315/presleyplace/elv2.jpg

[tcbeus]

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc315/presleyplace/elv3.jpg

[tcbeus]

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc315/presleyplace/elv4.jpg

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I heard the story about Elvis making up a fake marriage certificate a few years back because it was reported on some sites.

I think that lady is exaggerating saying that if Elvis would of stayed in Tupelo they would've gotten married for real. Yeah right!!!

I really thing everyone who knew Elvis exaggerated a lot!:D:D:D:D:D:D

[john carpenter]

It seems i'm the last one to post (as usual) But, did you know Gladys' Parents (elvis' Grandparents) were first cousins?32978:hmm:

[May]

I had heard that. didnt know how true it was though. They look similar!!

[Brian]

I really thing everyone who knew Elvis exaggerated a lot!:D:D:D:D:D:D

I wouldn't say everyone that knew him does.

For me it really depends on who and what we are talking about, but that lady was definately exagerrating Elvis wasn't a one woman guy and wouldn't of been ready to settle down.

He was only 13 at the time so maybe she didn't know that about him but it's well know that Elvis dated a lot of woman and was a bachelor for most of his life.

[May]

;)Wouldnt HAVE !;)

[Brian]

;)Wouldnt HAVE !;)

To whom are you speaking and to what?

[May]

;):DThought that was obvious, but in case it wasn't (although I somehow get the impression it was)...it was to you, my dear Brian. Just correcting you on the old English language!:D

[Donut]

Interesting write up here:
http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/magdalene_morgan.shtml

Thanks Lisarose (y). That's the same interview with Magdalene Morgan in Bill Burk's book.