View Full Version : Elvis was too young to get married?
Sweet_One_E.
09-01-2009, 11:25 AM
Do you agree or not. now times are changed and the youngers ones get married sometimes late 30s. my daughter got married at 32 because she wants babies, but I fear she is too selfish and immature still. she has always been so. my son however married at 25 and is most mature and was forever.
I wonder would things have worked out for him and Priscilla? but if he put her off even two years. would she waited
cbg84
09-01-2009, 11:52 AM
I disagree. I don't think his age had anything to do with it.
Diane
09-01-2009, 12:20 PM
Neither do I. He may have done all right with marriage in his later years had he not died but he was never ready before that.
Diane
Tony Trout
09-01-2009, 12:21 PM
Do you agree or not. now times are changed and the youngers ones get married sometimes late 30s. my daughter got married at 32 because she wants babies, but I fear she is too selfish and immature still. she has always been so. my son however married at 25 and is most mature and was forever.
I wonder would things have worked out for him and Priscilla? but if he put her off even two years. would she waited
I disagree. I don't think his age had anything to do with it.
I don't think so either.
I agree. I don't think Elvis's age had anything to do with him being too young to get married - although (and I know that what I'm about to say might take the thread in an entirely different direction) I have always had a strong feeling that Colonel Parker had a lot to do with Elvis getting married when he did after having Priscilla with him for so long more than anything.
Honestly, I don't think Elvis should've ever married.....period. Why? Because he couldn't stay faithful to even just one woman.
)[/I] I have always had a strong feeling that Colonel Parker had a lot to do with Elvis getting married when he did after having Priscilla with him for so long more than anything.
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Yyyyyyeeeeep !(y)
ForeverTheKing
09-01-2009, 01:03 PM
I disagree. I don't think his age had anything to do with it.
I agree...his problem wasn't the age..don't forget that at that time men and women got married earlier than today and Elvis was in the right way for a man in those years. His problem was the popularity and the style of life that sure influenced his marring life (y)
Broussey
09-01-2009, 01:04 PM
I don't think that his age mattered really!!!
I DO think that IF he met someone that he could not live without like ME oops like '' His true soul-mate '' i don't think he would have gone else where.. Don't get me wrong i do believe he loved cilia very very much but i don't think she was his soul-mate
Of Course this is IMO
Pacerstar
09-01-2009, 01:05 PM
Neither do I. He may have done all right with marriage in his later years had he not died but he was never ready before that.
Diane
I tend to agree. I think Elvis was just getting to the age that marriage would
have been what he wanted and would have been good for him when he died.
Whether Priscilla would have waited that long, I don't know.:D:D:D:D:D:D
Diane
09-01-2009, 01:16 PM
Whether Priscilla would have waited that long, I don't know.:D:D:D:D:D:D
You kidding?:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
Diane
debtdbruno
09-01-2009, 01:19 PM
Neither do I. He may have done all right with marriage in his later years had he not died but he was never ready before that.
Diane
I tend to agree. I think Elvis was just getting to the age that marriage would
have been what he wanted and would have been good for him when he died.
Whether Priscilla would have waited that long, I don't know.:D:D:D:D:D:D
Agree totally with both of you.
I think, eventually the novelty had worn off, and he was capable of settling down.
GIORGIA
09-01-2009, 02:08 PM
I don't think that his age mattered really!!!
I DO think that IF he met someone that he could not live without like ME oops like '' His true soul-mate '' i don't think he would have gone else where.. Don't get me wrong i do believe he loved cilia very very much but i don't think she was his soul-mate
Of Course this is IMO
I THINK THE SAME THING!
And OF COURSE I'M THE SOUL MATE OF ELVIS:lol::blush:!
jeanelvisgirl
09-01-2009, 03:33 PM
He should never have married....he loved women too much......all women!
elvislady
09-01-2009, 03:52 PM
He should never have married....he loved women too much......all women!
I agree jean... didnt he only like small petite woman? linda was quite a tall lady.was this just another myth!
elvislady:hmm:
Rhinestone
09-01-2009, 03:54 PM
Neither do I. He may have done all right with marriage in his later years had he not died but he was never ready before that.
Diane
Agree with this completely, Diane. Maybe, just maybe, he may have wanted to settle into a monogamous relationship in his 60's.
Raised on Rock
09-01-2009, 03:56 PM
In fact, back in the day, you could consider he had already been taking his time away from marriage long enough. No, he was not too young at all back in the day.
I don't think his age has anything to do. Why did his marriage failed then? (well that if you necessary consider divorce as a failure) Well people just change, is natural thing, not all couples are meant to be forever. And because of Elvis life style, change came at the speed of light.
Anyhow, as you kind of imply referring your daughter and son, It was more to do with maturity than to age. The question to answer them might be: Was Cilla and Elvis were still to immature to marriage?
To me the answer is yes, but back in the day, the older generation totally make them feel they should and it was about time.
Diane
09-01-2009, 04:12 PM
I agree jean... didnt he only like small petite woman? linda was quite a tall lady.was this just another myth!
elvislady:hmm:
I've wondered about that one too:lol:
Diane
franny
09-01-2009, 05:04 PM
I don't think age matters, that much. Some people get married at 20, but I think Elvis' lifestyle would not make it easy for him to have the married and family life he may have wanted...
He was on the road and away from home a lot. It's what he knew and what it was. That would be hard on any marriage and could be why he didn't marry again...well, maybe one of the reason's he didn't.
franny
Diane
09-01-2009, 05:15 PM
I don't think age matters, that much. Some people get married at 20, but I think Elvis' lifestyle would not make it easy for him to have the married and family life he may have wanted...
He was on the road and away from home a lot. It's what he knew and what it was. That would be hard on any marriage and could be why he didn't marry again...well, maybe one of the reason's he didn't.
franny
You are probably right there Franny. He lifestyle wasn't conductive to a happy marriage.
Diane
He should never have married....he loved women too much......all women!
Amen Sista!!!!
Lisarose
09-01-2009, 09:16 PM
He should never have married....he loved women too much......all women!
Indeed, he did truly love the one he was with!
Brian
09-02-2009, 01:05 AM
He was 32 years old.
He certainly didn't rush into marriage and get married too young like some do.
Sweet_One_E.
09-02-2009, 06:37 AM
but was he mentally ready? was he mature enough? was he in love enough? he did not seem settled. I wonder what he thought at the time?? Priscilla was ready, I do think and in love enough. I think she was ready to commit.
Lisarose
09-02-2009, 07:05 AM
but was he mentally ready? was he mature enough? was he in love enough? he did not seem settled. I wonder what he thought at the time?? Priscilla was ready, I do think and in love enough. I think she was ready to commit.
Is any man settled? Elvis showed a lot of responsibility in almost every other area - he worked hard, fulfilled his contracts, rarely threw a childish diva-ish tantrum, was very professional at work. He maintained several households. No, he shouldn't have gotten married, I don't believe he was "pushed" into it. If he had, the only person who could have "pushed" him was Gladys and she had encouraged him to marry several young women whom she knew, had "interviewed", and invited and made welcome in their homes. Gladys wanted Elvis to marry Dixie, to marry June - and he didn't. who knows, perhaps in his mind [JMO!] he wanted a child?!:hmm:
debtdbruno
09-02-2009, 11:45 AM
I think Cilla was the only one who he felt close enough to marry. He loved a lot of women, but she shared a time with him when he was vulnerable having lost his Mum, maybe his career. He would have felt closer to her than anyone at that time...maybe ever. Who knows!!
There had to be a reason he never married Linda.
Regardless of your views on Cilla, he did marry her, and nobody else after.
When you look at home videos they do look very happy,what happened to change that?????
elvispresleytheking
09-02-2009, 12:40 PM
Definitely not... Age has little to do with it.
Sweet_One_E.
09-02-2009, 01:51 PM
I think Elvis could reach out to many. he had many in Germany, but I think Priscilla was also like a friend to him. she grew up, he didn't. It happens.
Donut
09-02-2009, 02:13 PM
I don't think he was too young or immature. I think the problem was his idea of marriage, as bad as it may sound, was only having a family waiting for him at home.
presley31
09-02-2009, 02:33 PM
I don't think age matters, that much. Some people get married at 20, but I think Elvis' lifestyle would not make it easy for him to have the married and family life he may have wanted...
He was on the road and away from home a lot. It's what he knew and what it was. That would be hard on any marriage and could be why he didn't marry again...well, maybe one of the reason's he didn't.
franny
agreed franny. Not a life l could take or handle. Woman and being away doesn't help the home life no matter who is in the picture. I don't think any woman would be that strong to put up with it but like the song goes love me,love the life l lead and elvis turly believed that in my opinion.
shelley.m.
09-02-2009, 07:12 PM
He was 32yrs old when he married Priscilla.I wouldn't call that an young age to marry.I see if Elvis was 23yrs old,then that's young but 32 years old never!!!!
Lisarose
09-03-2009, 06:35 AM
He was on the road and away from home a lot. It's what he knew and what it was. That would be hard on any marriage and could be why he didn't marry again...well, maybe one of the reason's he didn't.
franny
agreed franny. Not a life l could take or handle. Woman and being away doesn't help the home life no matter who is in the picture. I don't think any woman would be that strong to put up with it but like the song goes love me,love the life l lead and elvis turly believed that in my opinion.
And yet it can be done - Look at Paul & Linda McCartney. Whereas Paul's first marriage didn't work out, Paul & Linda were faithfully devoted to each other - and I'm sure it was far from rosy 100% of the time! But thier's was an exception to the rule.
Whereas Paul's first marriage didn't work out,
! But thier's was an exception to the rule.
You mean Paul's second marriage :doh: (to Heather) didnt work out. ;)
Yes, their marriage was definately an exception.
I always thought Demi and Bruce would stay together. Shows what I know!!! :blush:
GIORGIA
09-03-2009, 10:48 AM
[/I] I have always had a strong feeling that Colonel Parker had a lot to do with Elvis getting married when he did after having Priscilla with him for so long more than anything.
I think the same thing too.
elvislady
09-03-2009, 11:06 AM
maybe the col did discuss this with elvis but elvis had his own mind i doubt if he would let someone dictate marrige to him... even tho he let this happen in his career!
elvislady :hmm:
Diane
09-03-2009, 12:19 PM
maybe the col did discuss this with elvis but elvis had his own mind i doubt if he would let someone dictate marrige to him... even tho he let this happen in his career!
elvislady :hmm:
I can see Elvis dragging around the idea of marriage and not wanting to make the commitment until the Colonel got nervous for some reason and got on him to do it once and for all.
Diane
debtdbruno
09-03-2009, 01:28 PM
And yet it can be done - Look at Paul & Linda McCartney. Whereas Paul's first marriage didn't work out, Paul & Linda were faithfully devoted to each other - and I'm sure it was far from rosy 100% of the time! But thier's was an exception to the rule.
Don't you think their marriage was different, in that, Linda worked with him on stage as part of Wings? She had a reason to be there, and helped to keep the groupies away.
There is the actual age someone is-and the mental age someone is.
I think Elvis had some insecurities and in many ways was like a guy of 19-21 in many areas.
Maturity keeps people together and from straying in marriage-Elvis and Priscilla perhaps needed more years to reach the maturity level to do that.
Thats not to say good mature people do not make mistakes in marriage-but it usually happens when they slip back a few years mentally for a short time:D
Junebug
09-03-2009, 02:36 PM
Don't you think their marriage was different, in that, Linda worked with him on stage as part of Wings? She had a reason to be there, and helped to keep the groupies away.
I agree.
Their marriage was different in that they were Paul & Linda, not Elvis & Priscilla.
Although in the same industry, all were different - individually and as couples - each with different needs and personalities.
No, IMO, I do not think Elvis was too young for marriage.
:king:
Lisarose
09-03-2009, 11:13 PM
You mean Paul's second marriage :doh: (to Heather) didnt work out. ;)
Yes, their marriage was definately an exception.
I always thought Demi and Bruce would stay together. Shows what I know!!! :blush:
Woops! :blush: Confusing Paul & John Lennon! Hubby would kill me if he knew about my mistake - he's the Beatles fan! Yes, we have a mixed marriage! :D
mistymorning
09-04-2009, 12:22 AM
I agree...his problem wasn't the age..don't forget that at that time men and women got married earlier than today and Elvis was in the right way for a man in those years. His problem was the popularity and the style of life that sure influenced his marring life (y)
I think you are 100% right ! his marriage problem was not related to his or Cilla's age . (y)
Woops! :blush: Confusing Paul & John Lennon! Hubby would kill me if he knew about my mistake - he's the Beatles fan! Yes, we have a mixed marriage! :D
:lol::lol: Mixed marriage :lol:
John and Yoko's marriage wasnt what you would call conventional. Although I expect most peoples marriages arent. :blink: We dont know what goes on behind closed doors. :blush:
John and Yoko split up for a while and Yoko even told John to go off with their P.A., May (great name!!!(y):lol:) Pang.
It seemed from what Ive watched on tele, May was extremely good for John. then when Yoko decided she wanted to get back with John, she almost clicked her fingers and May was history. :'(
John apparently liked being married to a strong, strict woman, i.e. Yoko, as it all went back to his childhood where he was raised by his strict Aunt Mimi.
Anyway, back to Elvis. :blush: Gosh, there were so many reasons IMO why his marriage didnt work. As I say, I dont think age was one of them. :D
Donut
09-04-2009, 08:10 AM
Anyway, back to Elvis. :blush: Gosh, there were so many reasons IMO why his marriage didnt work. As I say, I dont think age was one of them. :D
They probably realized they weren't what one expected the other to be as time went by. If the problem was something else, they really loved each other and wanted to make things work between them and be together they would have done it.
Diane
09-04-2009, 08:19 AM
They probably realized they weren't what one expected the other to be as time went by. If the problem was something else, they really loved each other and wanted to make things work between them and be together they would have done it.
Totally agree!(y)
Diane
Donut
09-04-2009, 08:21 AM
Totally agree!(y)
Diane
And I totally agree with you :lmfao:
And I agree with both of you!! I think its on another post somewhere, but I think Elvis thought Priscilla would be happy to be the stay-at-home wife with Lisa (and possibly other children), like his mum did - and he had quite a fixed idea on what marriage should be like.
I dont really know what Priscilla expected of Elvis. If I were going to marry the most handsome man in the world (not to mention his talent) I would expect him to have devoted female fans who lusted after him, and being a singer, I would know he would be on the road a lot.
That said, I dont imagine Elvis was easy to live with . Yes, Priscilla had money, security, a lovely home etc, but I couldnt have put up with the MM hanging about aaaaalll the time. But again, they were there before the marriage .:hmm: Maybe she thought they might clear off after the wedding??:hmm:
Junebug
09-04-2009, 09:45 AM
They probably realized they weren't what one expected the other to be as time went by. If the problem was something else, they really loved each other and wanted to make things work between them and be together they would have done it.
Maybe.
Sometimes people want things but don't have the tools necessary or know how to go about finding them at that time.
And addiction has a way of stopping growth and relationships all the way around - no matter how much love is there.
IMO, there may have been other issues but until the addictions were handled positively, nothing else stood much of a chance. (This is not meant to lay blame.)
:king:
I didnt think the addictions were out of control until the seventies.
Donut
09-04-2009, 10:06 AM
Maybe.
Sometimes people want things but don't have the tools necessary or know how to go about finding them at that time.
And addiction has a way of stopping growth and relationships all the way around - no matter how much love is there.
IMO, there may have been other issues but until the addictions were handled positively, nothing else stood much of a chance. (This is not meant to lay blame.)
:king:
I don't think his addiction had anything to do with what happened to them, at least that's not the reason Priscilla gives.
I think he was simply a normal person with a different job and the only 'tool' they needed to make their marriage work was to really want to be together. She left him for another man and he was not willing to give up his flirts for her. I know I have said this before but to me that's not love.
Junebug
09-04-2009, 10:10 AM
I didnt think the addictions were out of control until the seventies.
I understand where you are coming from.
But I don't believe addictions need to be 'out of control' to have an impact or cause distress.
I think it is quite possible others, experts in this area, would determine things were 'out of control' before the seventies based on the lifestyle descriptions and details provided by many.
:king:
Its one of those vicious circles. did the drugs have an effect on the marriage (probably) or did the marriage/divorce have more of an effect on the drugs (more than likely). IMO.
A lot of people blame Priscilla for Elvis's decline but I think it was more the timing of things going on. Reaching 40, was one of them. Priscilla leaving, another. Getting bored of the touring, all contributed to more and more drugs. but where could he go from there? He got bored in the 60's with the films, and then had something to get him excited again......after the comeback special. Where could he go once he got bored with touring?
It's just very sad. He had everything, gave everything to everyone else, and ended up like he did.
Junebug
09-04-2009, 10:27 AM
I don't think his addiction had anything to do with what happened to them, at least that's not the reason Priscilla gives.
I think he was simply a normal person with a different job and the only 'tool' they needed to make their marriage work was to really want to be together. She left him for another man and he was not willing to give up his flirts for her. I know I have said this before but to me that's not love.
I agree - it is not my idea of love either.
Yes, Priscilla did leave Elvis for another man.
IMO, That was a 'safe' way out of the marriage and something usually not realized until some time after that relationship itself ends.
IMO, Elvis & Priscilla's marriage had to contend with many addictions.
:king:
Diane
09-04-2009, 11:26 AM
I don't think his addiction had anything to do with what happened to them, at least that's not the reason Priscilla gives.
I think he was simply a normal person with a different job and the only 'tool' they needed to make their marriage work was to really want to be together. She left him for another man and he was not willing to give up his flirts for her. I know I have said this before but to me that's not love.
Maybe they did like a lot of people...mistake a strong physical attraction for love???:blink:
Diane
Donut
09-04-2009, 11:56 AM
Maybe they did like a lot of people...mistake a strong physical attraction for love???:blink:
Diane
No idea :blink:
There are some things that Priscilla has said that I find interesting though. One of them was Elvis saw her as that little girl he raised and the other is she was determined to marry him no matter what because she would look like a fool after all those years living with him if she did not. If I'm not wrong both comments are in her book.
A lot of people also blame Mike Stone for Priscilla leaving. I dont buy that at all. You dont "steal" someone's spouse. You are merely an "escape route" for them. People wouldnt leave their husband (or wife) for another man unless they werent happy with their husband.
I think it would have taken a very strong person to leave Elvis if there was no other relationship to enter into.............
Diane
09-04-2009, 12:15 PM
No idea :blink:
There are some things that Priscilla has said that I find interesting though. One of them was Elvis saw her as that little girl he raised and the other is she was determined to marry him no matter what because she would look like a fool after all those years living with him if she did not. If I'm not wrong both comments are in her book.
I would believe that she was that determined at the time but I think she thought marriage would change him and she would shine as his wife....neither thing happened. He wasn't about to change and he wanted her in the background.
Diane
Very true Diane. Very true.
Donut
09-04-2009, 12:23 PM
I would believe that she was that determined at the time but I think she thought marriage would change him and she would shine as his wife....neither thing happened. He wasn't about to change and he wanted her in the background.
Diane
Yeah, I think you are right, Diane.
Brian
09-04-2009, 12:27 PM
A lot of people also blame Mike Stone for Priscilla leaving. I dont buy that at all. You dont "steal" someone's spouse. You are merely an "escape route" for them. People wouldnt leave their husband (or wife) for another man unless they werent happy with their husband.
I think it would have taken a very strong person to leave Elvis if there was no other relationship to enter into.............
well, unhappy or not Mike Stone took advantage of the situation
Priscilla was supposedly infactuated with Mike Stone for a while
Had he not come into the picture I think it's possible she would've continued to stay in the marriage despite being unhappy.
Yes, that pretty much agrees with what I said in the previous post. I think if there hadnt been someone to "run to" she may have tried harder for longer. but i still think someone would have come along, because elvis wasnt going to change into what Priscilla wanted.
Brian
09-04-2009, 12:48 PM
Yes, that pretty much agrees with what I said in the previous post. I think if there hadnt been someone to "run to" she may have tried harder for longer. but i still think someone would have come along, because elvis wasnt going to change into what Priscilla wanted.
She should of just left on her own.
Priscilla talks about how she wanted to be independent and out on her own well she really wasn't she was living with another man.
I wouldn't like it if my wife had left me for another man then moves in with him. she barely knew him and she took Lisa to live there as well.
That's not good for a child imo.
I don't know much about their relationship but Stone could've been a really bad guy or something.
That very thing happened when Priscilla met Mike Edwards she didn't know him that well but he moved in with her and Lisa and look how that turned out.
Well Brian, I have to say I completely agree with you here.(y)
GIORGIA
09-04-2009, 01:18 PM
And I agree with both of you!! I think its on another post somewhere, but I think Elvis thought Priscilla would be happy to be the stay-at-home wife with Lisa (and possibly other children), like his mum did - and he had quite a fixed idea on what marriage should be like.
I dont really know what Priscilla expected of Elvis. If I were going to marry the most handsome man in the world (not to mention his talent) I would expect him to have devoted female fans who lusted after him, and being a singer, I would know he would be on the road a lot.
That said, I dont imagine Elvis was easy to live with . Yes, Priscilla had money, security, a lovely home etc, but I couldnt have put up with the MM hanging about aaaaalll the time. But again, they were there before the marriage .:hmm: Maybe she thought they might clear off after the wedding??:hmm:
I totally agree with you May!
I think that as you say Priscilla Know these Things!
Is not possible not know this!
But I also think that Priscilla think that her can change Elvis.
debtdbruno
09-04-2009, 01:38 PM
And I agree with both of you!! I think its on another post somewhere, but I think Elvis thought Priscilla would be happy to be the stay-at-home wife with Lisa (and possibly other children), like his mum did - and he had quite a fixed idea on what marriage should be like.
I dont really know what Priscilla expected of Elvis. If I were going to marry the most handsome man in the world (not to mention his talent) I would expect him to have devoted female fans who lusted after him, and being a singer, I would know he would be on the road a lot.
That said, I dont imagine Elvis was easy to live with . Yes, Priscilla had money, security, a lovely home etc, but I couldnt have put up with the MM hanging about aaaaalll the time. But again, they were there before the marriage .:hmm: Maybe she thought they might clear off after the wedding??:hmm:
Its one of those vicious circles. did the drugs have an effect on the marriage (probably) or did the marriage/divorce have more of an effect on the drugs (more than likely). IMO.
A lot of people blame Priscilla for Elvis's decline but I think it was more the timing of things going on. Reaching 40, was one of them. Priscilla leaving, another. Getting bored of the touring, all contributed to more and more drugs. but where could he go from there? He got bored in the 60's with the films, and then had something to get him excited again......after the comeback special. Where could he go once he got bored with touring?
It's just very sad. He had everything, gave everything to everyone else, and ended up like he did.
Excellent posts May(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
Pacerstar
09-04-2009, 02:14 PM
She should of just left on her own.
Priscilla talks about how she wanted to be independent and out on her own well she really wasn't she was living with another man.
I wouldn't like it if my wife had left me for another man then moves in with him. she barely knew him and she took Lisa to live there as well.
That's not good for a child imo.
I don't know much about their relationship but Stone could've been a really bad guy or something.
That very thing happened when Priscilla met Mike Edwards she didn't know him that well but he moved in with her and Lisa and look how that turned out.
I agree with you on this, Brian.:D:D:D:D:D:D
Excellent posts May(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
Thank you (y)
Brian
09-04-2009, 05:30 PM
A lot of people blame Priscilla for Elvis's decline but I think it was more the timing of things going on. Reaching 40, was one of them. Priscilla leaving, another. Getting bored of the touring, all contributed to more and more drugs. but where could he go from there? He got bored in the 60's with the films, and then had something to get him excited again......after the comeback special. Where could he go once he got bored with touring?
It's just very sad. He had everything, gave everything to everyone else, and ended up like he did.
most fans say he should've accepted that offer to star with Barbara Streisand in the third remake of A Star is Born because it would've took him off the road and gave him a challenge to lose weight and get into shape again.
I think he would've just fallen into the same rut once the movie wrapped.
though.
Its one of those vicious circles. did the drugs have an effect on the marriage (probably) or did the marriage/divorce have more of an effect on the drugs (more than likely). IMO.
A lot of people blame Priscilla for Elvis's decline but I think it was more the timing of things going on. Reaching 40, was one of them. Priscilla leaving, another. Getting bored of the touring, all contributed to more and more drugs. but where could he go from there? He got bored in the 60's with the films, and then had something to get him excited again......after the comeback special. Where could he go once he got bored with touring?
It's just very sad. He had everything, gave everything to everyone else, and ended up like he did.
i agree with you, timing, time in history and most of all his personality and how he reacted to the huge joys but also the huge stresses and sadnesses of his life, I think we all wished he had more time to sort through some of these things, he may or may not of had an epiphany, but he would have had the luxury of hindsight and maturity and a different worldview (healthier in some ways) , most of those(not fans) who judge him have all of those luxuries, so I think we can only be thankful for the joy he gave to us when he did...
Pacerstar
09-05-2009, 08:32 AM
i agree with you, timing, time in history and most of all his personality and how he reacted to the huge joys but also the huge stresses and sadnesses of his life, I think we all wished he had more time to sort through some of these things, he may or may not of had an epiphany, but he would have had the luxury of hindsight and maturity and a different worldview (healthier in some ways) , most of those(not fans) who judge him have all of those luxuries, so I think we can only be thankful for the joy he gave to us when he did...
Good post.(y)(y)(y)(y)
Jumpsuit Junkie
09-05-2009, 09:39 AM
Elvis' age had nothing to do with the decline of his marriage, there are millions of relationships that break up every year, it just happens that Elvis' happened in the public domain.
As for the route cause of Elvis' marriage break up, I don't think it is rocket science, Elvis wanted to 'have his cake and eat it', as much as Elvis fans we might want to put all the blame on Priscilla, it just wouldn't be fair to do that. It was simply a case of six of one and half a dozen of the other. It takes two to make a relationship work and two to let it fail. They both took actions that drew them apart.
As a side not, IMO in threads of a similar nature, Elvis fans accept Elvis' wayward behaviour in a relationship that they simply would accept in theirs ;) oh to be famous :lol:
franny
09-05-2009, 10:59 AM
Elvis' age had nothing to do with the decline of his marriage, there are millions of relationships that break up every year, it just happens that Elvis' happened in the public domain.
As for the route cause of Elvis' marriage break up, I don't think it is rocket science, Elvis wanted to 'have his cake and eat it', as much as Elvis fans we might want to put all the blame on Priscilla, it just wouldn't be fair to do that. It was simply a case of six of one and half a dozen of the other. It takes two to make a relationship work and two to let it fail. They both took actions that drew them apart.
As a side not, IMO in threads of a similar nature, Elvis fans accept Elvis' wayward behaviour in a relationship that they simply would accept in theirs ;) oh to be famous :lol:
Well said, Matt. (y)
franny
debtdbruno
09-05-2009, 11:16 AM
i agree with you, timing, time in history and most of all his personality and how he reacted to the huge joys but also the huge stresses and sadnesses of his life, I think we all wished he had more time to sort through some of these things, he may or may not of had an epiphany, but he would have had the luxury of hindsight and maturity and a different worldview (healthier in some ways) , most of those(not fans) who judge him have all of those luxuries, so I think we can only be thankful for the joy he gave to us when he did...
I wonder about his up and down personality, did he have bi-polar does anyone think???
Deb
kathy parkinson
09-05-2009, 11:23 AM
Well said, Matt. (y)
frannyI second that, well said Matt.
Pacerstar
09-05-2009, 11:25 AM
Elvis' age had nothing to do with the decline of his marriage, there are millions of relationships that break up every year, it just happens that Elvis' happened in the public domain.
As for the route cause of Elvis' marriage break up, I don't think it is rocket science, Elvis wanted to 'have his cake and eat it', as much as Elvis fans we might want to put all the blame on Priscilla, it just wouldn't be fair to do that. It was simply a case of six of one and half a dozen of the other. It takes two to make a relationship work and two to let it fail. They both took actions that drew them apart.
As a side not, IMO in threads of a similar nature, Elvis fans accept Elvis' wayward behaviour in a relationship that they simply would accept in theirs ;) oh to be famous :lol:
I agree. People can just grow in different directions and it is nobody's fault. Where we are in one area of our life is not always where we stay. Things change, people change.:D:D:D:D:D:D
Pacerstar
09-05-2009, 11:28 AM
I wonder about his up and down personality, did he have bi-polar does anyone think???
Deb
I have wondered that myself at times. I know he always said that he had
a very bad temper and when he lost it, it was not pretty. I recall reading that
his mother had said to someone when he was younger, that he would never
change. I don't really have any knowledge to back this up; but one does
wonder about his drastic mood changes at times.:D:D:D:D
debtdbruno
09-05-2009, 11:43 AM
It's the way he was very happy, or very sad. There was no middle ground in his emotions it seems
Diane
09-05-2009, 12:00 PM
Elvis' age had nothing to do with the decline of his marriage, there are millions of relationships that break up every year, it just happens that Elvis' happened in the public domain.
As for the route cause of Elvis' marriage break up, I don't think it is rocket science, Elvis wanted to 'have his cake and eat it', as much as Elvis fans we might want to put all the blame on Priscilla, it just wouldn't be fair to do that. It was simply a case of six of one and half a dozen of the other. It takes two to make a relationship work and two to let it fail. They both took actions that drew them apart.
As a side not, IMO in threads of a similar nature, Elvis fans accept Elvis' wayward behaviour in a relationship that they simply would accept in theirs ;) oh to be famous :lol:
Perfectly said Matt(y)(y)(y)
Diane
Diane
09-05-2009, 12:02 PM
I wonder about his up and down personality, did he have bi-polar does anyone think???
Deb
I don't think Elvis was bi-polar. His mother was also very quick tempered and emotional. I'm sure the pills played their part in his behavior too.
Diane
elvislady
09-05-2009, 12:04 PM
Elvis' age had nothing to do with the decline of his marriage, there are millions of relationships that break up every year, it just happens that Elvis' happened in the public domain.
As for the route cause of Elvis' marriage break up, I don't think it is rocket science, Elvis wanted to 'have his cake and eat it', as much as Elvis fans we might want to put all the blame on Priscilla, it just wouldn't be fair to do that. It was simply a case of six of one and half a dozen of the other. It takes two to make a relationship work and two to let it fail. They both took actions that drew them apart.
As a side not, IMO in threads of a similar nature, Elvis fans accept Elvis' wayward behaviour in a relationship that they simply would accept in theirs ;) oh to be famous :lol:
I agree with this comment, it seems ok for elvis to behave as he liked as soon as cilla stepted out of line she was ponced on.
elvislady :D
I agree...his problem wasn't the age..don't forget that at that time men and women got married earlier than today and Elvis was in the right way for a man in those years. His problem was the popularity and the style of life that sure influenced his marring life (y)
YES I AGREE .....:blush::king:
elvislady
09-05-2009, 12:08 PM
I don't think Elvis was bi-polar. His mother was also very quick tempered and emotional. I'm sure the pills played their part in his behavior too.
Diane
I agree diane i have seen people with pi-polar, i cant really comment on elvis because i never was close enough in his life to see this! (if only) lol but i doubt he had the same syptoms.
elvislady :hmm:
most fans say he should've accepted that offer to star with Barbara Streisand in the third remake of A Star is Born because it would've took him off the road and gave him a challenge to lose weight and get into shape again.
I think he would've just fallen into the same rut once the movie wrapped.
though.
Perhaps he would have- he bored and lost interest easily it seems-but then again the success of the movie and his part in it may have opened many new roles up to him which would give him avenues to combat the ruts.
Pacerstar
09-05-2009, 01:57 PM
I agree diane i have seen people with pi-polar, i cant really comment on elvis because i never was close enough in his life to see this! (if only) lol but i doubt he had the same syptoms.
elvislady :hmm:
My daughter is bi-polar and I can see some suggestions; but, not being around Elvis all the time, I agree, it would be hard to say that his ups and
downs were caused by bi-polar.:D:D:D:D:D
Brian
09-05-2009, 02:17 PM
My daughter is bi-polar and I can see some suggestions; but, not being around Elvis all the time, I agree, it would be hard to say that his ups and
downs were caused by bi-polar.:D:D:D:D:D
I don't think Elvis was bi polar.
Diane
09-05-2009, 04:23 PM
I agree diane i have seen people with pi-polar, i cant really comment on elvis because i never was close enough in his life to see this! (if only) lol but i doubt he had the same syptoms.
elvislady :hmm:
Not from what I can tell either Jeannette. My sister-in-law was bi-polar and her moods were much more intense and went from nice to mean within seconds....sad. She was basically a very nice person.
Diane
I wonder about his up and down personality, did he have bi-polar does anyone think???
Deb
I'm don't think so Deb..but I really wouldn't know, I think what he did with his life was extraordinary and when he gave it his all, people adored him, so I think he thought he should be "on" all the time and in finding ways to be "on" all the time and always wanting to be amazing at everything(which he did achieve a lot of the time)he didn't give his emotions or body a chance to rest and recuperate, and anybody knows if you don't rest and rely on other things to get you through, reactions get a bit dodgy..but he did have a complex thought process, which I guess he needed, to do all he did, just wasn't too healthy in the end unfortunately...
I agree with this comment, it seems ok for elvis to behave as he liked as soon as cilla stepted out of line she was ponced on.
elvislady :D
She shouldnt have stepped out of line then! :lmfao::lmfao:
elvislady
09-06-2009, 02:48 AM
She shouldnt have stepped out of line then! :lmfao::lmfao:
not a cilla fan then!
elvislady. :)
don't dislike her as such, To me she is just Elvis's ex wife.
Jumpsuit Junkie
09-06-2009, 04:02 AM
I agree with this comment, it seems ok for elvis to behave as he liked as soon as cilla stepted out of line she was ponced on.
elvislady :D
Agreed, IMO Priscilla gets a bad wrap for her time with Elvis when in fact they were both as bad as each other. Elvis was not innocent, Priscilla was not innocent, so to point out the bad points of one individual and not the other...
She shouldn't have stepped out of line then! :lmfao::lmfao:
I believe Cilla has more than made up for any transgressions made by Elvis, she controls the Image now and she doesn't hold back in showing up Elvis' darker secrets :doh:
Sweet_One_E.
09-06-2009, 06:38 AM
they both made mistakes but if they promised to be faithful in marriage vows, she was first to break that promise. and of course he was second, which is not right either. two wrongs just really mess things up, that was dumb for both if they wanted a good marriage. bad way to start off, how could it work after that, I don't know. makes me wonder how a fairy tale went so bad so quick. sad for both
Jumpsuit Junkie
09-06-2009, 06:42 AM
they both made mistakes but if they promised to be faithful in marriage vows, she was first to break that promise. and of course he was second, which is not right either. two wrongs just really mess things up, that was dumb for both if they wanted a good marriage. bad way to start off, how could it work after that, I don't know. makes me wonder how a fairy tale went so bad so quick. sad for both
Do you really believe that :rolleyes:
Didn't Elvis famously say "Why have an apple when you can have an orchard"?
Agreed, IMO Priscilla gets a bad wrap for her time with Elvis when in fact they were both as bad as each other. Elvis was not innocent, Priscilla was not innocent, so to point out the bad points of one individual and not the other...
:doh:
Yeah, but Im sure if Priscilla had a fan site, they would slag Elvis off and not Priscilla.
presley31
09-06-2009, 10:09 AM
Yeah, but Im sure if Priscilla had a fan site, they would slag Elvis off and not Priscilla.
I'am a member at priscilla's fan sites and believe me elvis didn't get slag off at all but priscilla does still get the blame which is expected cause even her fans realise that priscilla hasn't always been very good when it comes to elvis.
Do you really believe that :rolleyes:
Didn't Elvis famously say "Why have an apple when you can have an orchard"?
Why buy the cow when you can get the milk thru the fence;):D
Thats another one I've read attributed to him-(or about him.)
Sweet_One_E.
09-06-2009, 10:49 AM
Do you really believe that :rolleyes:
Didn't Elvis famously say "Why have an apple when you can have an orchard"?
oh maybe I made a mistake. who did he have affairs with before she had the one with the dance teacher. I read about that on the dancy with the stars message board.
Diane
09-06-2009, 10:52 AM
Why buy the cow when you can get the milk thru the fence;):D
Thats another one I've read attributed to him-(or about him.)
Don't let me get started on this.........:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
Diane
elvislady
09-06-2009, 11:11 AM
oh maybe I made a mistake. who did he have affairs with before she had the one with the dance teacher. I read about that on the dancy with the stars message board.
This was supposed to have been 4mths after she had lisa that she was alledgedly sleeping with this dance teacher..:hmm::hmm:
elvislady :hmm:
debtdbruno
09-06-2009, 11:20 AM
We've touched on this before...........who had the first affair.
Nobody knows!!!! It's all surmising. We know Elvis cheated before they were married, why should the ring make any difference to him????
Brian
09-06-2009, 11:52 AM
Yeah, but Im sure if Priscilla had a fan site, they would slag Elvis off and not Priscilla.
that is a good point
Priscilla actually does have several fan sites.
Seriously? I know of one, but didnt know there was more than one.
elvislady
09-06-2009, 12:41 PM
http://www.priscillapresley.com/place.php
This is cillas official fan site...
elvislady :D
Junebug
09-06-2009, 02:13 PM
Fox in sheep's clothing.
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
elvislady
09-07-2009, 12:52 AM
hilarious!!
elvislady
Sweet_One_E.
09-07-2009, 08:23 AM
We've touched on this before...........who had the first affair.
Nobody knows!!!! It's all surmising. We know Elvis cheated before they were married, why should the ring make any difference to him????
sorry didn't know. was just curious who he had cheated with. still you are correct, both should have taken their vows more serious. especially with a child involved then.
debtdbruno
09-07-2009, 04:08 PM
They should have kept their vows I agree, however Elvis didn't live in a 'normal' world
The Welz
09-10-2009, 05:17 AM
Priscilla might have been too young to get married, but certainly not Elvis!
I cannot understand why anybody would marry such a guy (besides the fact that he was ELVIS). He never was a faithful partner and slept with anybody he wanted to. Elvis simply was not made for a marriage and to me it was Priscilla, who was too young to realize that.
Diane
09-10-2009, 07:37 AM
Priscilla might have been too young to get married, but certainly not Elvis!
I cannot understand why anybody would marry such a guy (besides the fact that he was ELVIS). He never was a faithful partner and slept with anybody he wanted to. Elvis simply was not made for a marriage and to me it was Priscilla, who was too young to realize that.
Priscilla was 21 when she married Elvis and had lived with him 7 years...she knew what she was getting into.;)
Diane
Junebug
09-10-2009, 07:41 AM
Priscilla was 21 when she married Elvis and had lived with him 7 years...she knew what she was getting into.;)
Diane
???
You mean she knew she was getting into a 'marriage'???
I didn't know she had lived with him for 7 years.
Didn't she move to Memphis in the spring of 1963 - a month or so before she turned 18?
:king:
Priscilla was 21 when she married Elvis and had lived with him 7 years...she knew what she was getting into.;)
Diane
True. (y)
After reading Child Bride (child at 21 ???!! :blink:) that gives the impression Priscilla wanted the "rock and roll idol" Elvis, and yet by the time they got married he was more the "boring movie star" Elvis (boring as in boring movies , not boring as in boring Elvis!;)) and maybe she had second thoughts. But didnt want to not get married as she had waited all those years and didnt want to 'lose face'.
Im not saying Child Bride was true in that, its just another perspective.:D
Now there's a question!!
I think Priscilla knew what she was getting with Elvis far more than the other way round!
She must have had a pretty good idea his life wasnt going to change from what it was whilst they were living together before the wedding. Whereas IMO Elvis imagined Priscilla would be happy to stay at home with any children they may have. I don't think he realised she was probably nearly as ambitious as him. After all, if the media is to be believed, that was one of the reasons he didnt want to marry Ann Margret. she was too into her career.
elvislady
09-10-2009, 08:19 AM
So did Elvis know what he was 'getting into' with marriage????
:king:
how can anyone seriously know what they are getting into...i didnt, its trial and error at first if it fails then so be it, great if you still get on after the divorce., if it still going 28 years later like mine, great!
elvislady :D
Junebug
09-10-2009, 08:25 AM
how can anyone seriously know what they are getting into...i didnt, its trial and error at first if it fails then so be it, great if you still get on after the divorce., if it still going 28 years later like mine, great!
elvislady :D
Thank you. (y)
:king:
how can anyone seriously know what they are getting into...i didnt, its trial and error at first if it fails then so be it, great if you still get on after the divorce., if it still going 28 years later like mine, great!
elvislady :D
Well yes, obviously no-one can predict the future, but generally the majority of people use common sense and gut instinct maybe, and Bob's Your Uncle!
Gosh though, everyone's idea of marriage is different. I bet what we all think went on with Priscilla and Elvis isnt anything like what actually did go on.
But if it were me who was thinking of marrying Elvis :blush: I would ask myself if I would be able to cope with the fans, the schedule, the MM (no!!) etc. I think if Priscilla had married Elvis within a year or so of them meeting, she probably wouldnt have a clue what being Mrs Presley was like. but she knew him for, what, 7 years in total, I cant believe she would have no idea how it was going to be.:hmm:
Sweet_One_E.
09-10-2009, 01:04 PM
maybe she thought marriage would change him some women do. shot in the dark if you ask me
GIORGIA
09-10-2009, 01:08 PM
maybe she thought marriage would change him some women do.
As I said before,I think the same thing!
debtdbruno
09-10-2009, 01:52 PM
Now there's a question!!
I think Priscilla knew what she was getting with Elvis far more than the other way round!
She must have had a pretty good idea his life wasnt going to change from what it was whilst they were living together before the wedding. Whereas IMO Elvis imagined Priscilla would be happy to stay at home with any children they may have. I don't think he realised she was probably nearly as ambitious as him. After all, if the media is to be believed, that was one of the reasons he didnt want to marry Ann Margret. she was too into her career.
She certainly knew something was going on with AMO, and probably others too. Didn't she wonder about Nancy Sinatra?
Like May said, she lived with him enough years to know what it was all about
beckelvis
09-11-2009, 05:30 AM
I don't think that his age mattered really!!!
I DO think that IF he met someone that he could not live without like ME oops like '' His true soul-mate '' i don't think he would have gone else where.. Don't get me wrong i do believe he loved cilia very very much but i don't think she was his soul-mate
Of Course this is IMO
I Agree with you(y)(y)
GIORGIA
09-11-2009, 09:46 AM
Priscilla was 21 when she married Elvis and had lived with him 7 years...she knew what she was getting into.;)
Diane
Yes(y)(y)!
GIORGIA
09-11-2009, 09:51 AM
Well yes, obviously no-one can predict the future, but generally the majority of people use common sense and gut instinct maybe, and Bob's Your Uncle!
Gosh though, everyone's idea of marriage is different. I bet what we all think went on with Priscilla and Elvis isnt anything like what actually did go on.
But if it were me who was thinking of marrying Elvis :blush: I would ask myself if I would be able to cope with the fans, the schedule, the MM (no!!) etc. I think if Priscilla had married Elvis within a year or so of them meeting, she probably wouldnt have a clue what being Mrs Presley was like. but she knew him for, what, 7 years in total, I cant believe she would have no idea how it was going to be.:hmm:
Good Post May!
I agree also with you!
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