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Raised on Rock
07-15-2009, 01:51 AM
"Down in Tupelo I used to hear old Arthur Crudup bang his box the way I do now, and I said 'If I ever got to the place where I could feel all old Arthur felt, I'd be a music man like nobody ever saw.' "
ELVIS PRESLEY — 1956

YouTube - Arthur 'Big Boy' Crudup - So Glad You're Mine (Live 1973)


Did Elvis ever got to meet this man?

Brian
07-15-2009, 01:52 AM
"Down in Tupelo I used to hear old Arthur Crudup bang his box the way I do now, and I said 'If I ever got to the place where I could feel all old Arthur felt, I'd be a music man like nobody ever saw.' "
ELVIS PRESLEY — 1956

YouTube - Arthur 'Big Boy' Crudup - So Glad You're Mine (Live 1973) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABgD-iFyVhA)


Did Elvis ever got to meet this man?

I don't know for sure

I don't think he did.

Raised on Rock
07-15-2009, 02:13 PM
We do know that he, through the years, got to meet many of the favorite Blues and R&B acts that were a big influence on him as a teenager, Junior Parker, Mahalia Jackson etc. Meeting Roy Hamilton in 1969, was probably like meeting Elvis to Paul McCartney.

On the other hand, he might have got to know people like B.B. King long before he (Elvis) became a recording artist himself, by regularly attending music clubs in Memphis.

Did he ever got to hear Mr. Crudup Live at one point? or did he only meet him through 45rpm.

Raised on Rock
07-15-2009, 03:35 PM
Update:

Elvis Presley, a huge Crudup's music fan, aware of the Bluesman situation (by 1962 he was retired from music, working on the fields again after seen his royalties being scammed by the music industry), financed Arthur's "Big Boy" recording sessions at Fire Records until '67 when he moved to Delmark. Songs recorded during that time are mostly re recordings of classics like: "Rock Me Mama", "Mean Old Frisco Blues", "Ethae Mae" & "Dig My Self A Hole". Also rerecorded two of the songs that were made famous by Presley: "So Glad You Are Mine" and "That's All Right", these time in an upbeat style, more reminiscent of Elvis records than the original slow moan of "If I Get Lucky", from with Presley took inspiration for his first Sun Single.

elvisfan.77
07-15-2009, 03:49 PM
I loved the video. Very nice. And im not for sure if they ever got to meet. As far as I know they didnt...

Brian
07-15-2009, 03:54 PM
Update:

Elvis Presley, a huge Crudup's music fan, aware of the Bluesman situation (by 1962 he was retired from music, working on the fields again after seen his royalties being scammed by the music industry), financed Arthur's "Big Boy" recording sessions at Fire Records until '67 when he moved to Delmark. Songs recorded during that time are mostly re recordings of classics like: "Rock Me Mama", "Mean Old Frisco Blues", "Ethae Mae" & "Dig My Self A Hole". Also rerecorded two of the songs that were made famous by Presley: "So Glad You Are Mine" and "That's All Right", these time in an upbeat style, more reminiscent of Elvis records than the original slow moan of "If I Get Lucky", from with Presley took inspiration for his first Sun Single.

I think that is untrue about Elvis paying for a recording session of Crudup's.

That's been around for years and I think it's untrue.

I don't think Elvis ever met Arthur Crudup.

Raised on Rock
07-15-2009, 08:21 PM
I think that is untrue about Elvis paying for a recording session of Crudup's.

That's been around for years and I think it's untrue.

I don't think Elvis ever met Arthur Crudup.


It's been around for decades I know, the thing is, as far as I know there are not any verifiable data to declare it false or true, so it is what it is a rumor. Any idea from where did surfaced?

A good question would be, did or did not Elvis had any connections with Fire Records?

Another rumor on the same line: Elvis and Scotty More, jamming with Lowell Fulson at some night club around the Sun era.

Brian
07-15-2009, 09:04 PM
It's been around for decades I know, the thing is, as far as I know there are not any verifiable data to declare it false or true, so it is what it is a rumor. Any idea from where did surfaced?

A good question would be, did or did not Elvis had any connections with Fire Records?

Another rumor on the same line: Elvis and Scotty More, jamming with Lowell Fulson at some night club around the Sun era.

no, I don't think Elvis had any connections with Fire Records
Elvis only had connections with RCA and I guess Sun since he recorded with them before RCA.

I've heard the story about Crudup for years but I don't think it's mentioned in any major Elvis biographies and I figure if it were true we would've heard more about the story.

I know Marty Lacker answers questions on a couple of websites and IIRC he's gotten a couple of questions over the years about the story about Elvis and Arthur Crudup he said that he doesn't recall Elvis ever financing a recording session for Arthur Crudup.

I'll check on the story about Scotty Moore and Lowell Fulson and get back to you. I seem to remember Scotty Moore addressing this story in an interview on the net that I read a few years ago.

This is a very good thread Raised on Raised in my opinion it's one of the best threads tcb-word has had in awhile.

You should post here more often.

Raised on Rock
07-16-2009, 11:49 PM
no, I don't think Elvis had any connections with Fire Records
Elvis only had connections with RCA and I guess Sun since he recorded with them before RCA.

I've heard the story about Crudup for years but I don't think it's mentioned in any major Elvis biographies and I figure if it were true we would've heard more about the story.

I know Marty Lacker answers questions on a couple of websites and IIRC he's gotten a couple of questions over the years about the story about Elvis and Arthur Crudup he said that he doesn't recall Elvis ever financing a recording session for Arthur Crudup.

I'll check on the story about Scotty Moore and Lowell Fulson and get back to you. I seem to remember Scotty Moore addressing this story in an interview on the net that I read a few years ago.

This is a very good thread Raised on Raised in my opinion it's one of the best threads tcb-word has had in awhile.

You should post here more often.

Scotty Moore himself has addressed the Lowel Fulson Jam? if that is true, that is quite an anecdote, Elvis and Scotty jamming with the great blues man, that's more interesting than the so call jam with the beat bugs in '65, at least to me. Please let me know if you got something on that.

Brian
07-17-2009, 01:05 AM
Scotty Moore himself has addressed the Lowel Fulson Jam? if that is true, that is quite an anecdote, Elvis and Scotty jamming with the great blues man, that's more interesting than the so call jam with the beat bugs in '65, at least to me. Please let me know if you got something on that.

Yes

Here you go Raised on Rock

Scotty confirms that it did happen in this interview

it's a rumor no longer



http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/interview_scottymoore_by_arjandeelen.shtml

Raised on Rock
07-17-2009, 01:15 PM
Yes

Here you go Raised on Rock

Scotty confirms that it did happen in this interview

it's a rumor no longer



http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/interview_scottymoore_by_arjandeelen.shtml

AHHH! just great! thanks so much for the info, appreciated.

KPM
07-17-2009, 03:31 PM
The claim that Elvis financed Crupup session comes from the book:
"Dispelling the Myths" by Todd Rheingod.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0966219708/oldiesmusicA/
......Combining populism and a thesis-style research with a fierce intellect, Rheingold unblinkingly goes into territory Elvis Presley's fans and detractors have heretofore only whispered about. Anyone interested in the history of rock 'n' roll and in race relations in America should read this book -- Sid Scott, as reviewed in the Tupelo Daily, March 1993

Todd Rheingold has made a significant contribution with his new book, Dispelling the Myths. It is bold, timely, and comprehensive. He addresses the topic of prejudice in the entertainment industry with emphasis on the attitudes of Black Americans towards Elvis Presley. He examines this complex issue from both sides and manages to put things into proper perspective. Rheingold also explores broader attitudes of prejudice in our country with insight and understanding. He is to be complimented for this very frank, informative work -- Morrie E. Kricun, President of Morgin Press, Inc. and author of Elvis: 1956 Reflections, March 1993

Raised on Rock
07-19-2009, 11:54 AM
Have you got to read it? sounds like an interesting book.

Thanks for posting KMP.

KPM
07-20-2009, 01:00 PM
Have you got to read it? sounds like an interesting book.

Thanks for posting KMP.
Unfortunately not, but I had heard about it when it came out and of its claim of Elvis financed Crudup sessions.