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Nicole Presley
06-10-2009, 11:53 AM
I know Elvis is a christian, but there are different kinds of christians. Is Elvis catholic, or evangelic, or what is he exactly? Does anyone know? I hope thatīs not a stupid question. All the time I hear and read about how religious Elvis is. And I tried to find it out by myself, but I couldnīt find an answer.

Brian
06-10-2009, 12:15 PM
I know Elvis is a christian, but there are different kinds of christians. Is Elvis catholic, or evangelic, or what is he exactly? Does anyone know? I hope thatīs not a stupid question. All the time I hear and read about how religious Elvis is. And I tried to find it out by myself, but I couldnīt find an answer.

It's a good question not a stupid one

I believe Elvis was Assembly of God

Nicole Presley
06-10-2009, 12:25 PM
"The first assembly of god" is just the name of the church Elvis went to. But that doesnīt exactly tell what he is.

Brian
06-10-2009, 12:28 PM
"The first assembly of god" is just the name of the church Elvis went to. But that doesnīt exactly tell what he is.

Assembly of God is also a donomination

Nicole Presley
06-10-2009, 01:19 PM
Okay, then can someone please tell me about the church Elvis visited? What do they believe in exactly?

debtdbruno
06-10-2009, 01:42 PM
Just asked my Mum who is a Born again Christian. She's read a few books on him'

He believed in the full gospel.
'Jesus died for our salvation'.....
These are beliefs of the Assembly of God

Brian
06-10-2009, 01:44 PM
Okay, then can someone please tell me about the church Elvis visited? What do they believe in exactly?

It's christian just like Baptist, Methodist etc.

My uncle is Assembly of God and i've been to his church before
I'm a Baptist and didn't notice much difference.

Diane
06-10-2009, 02:14 PM
From what I understand the Assembly of God is a Pentecostal church.

Diane

Raised on Rock
06-10-2009, 04:18 PM
Wel according to wiki's word on it:

The Assemblies of God's “Cardinal Doctrines" are salvation through Jesus Christ, baptism in the Holy Spirit, divine healing, and the Second Coming of Christ. These beliefs are considered to have a biblical basis and are thus considered non-negotiable.[14]
The doctrinal position of the Assemblies of God is framed in a classical Pentecostal and an Evangelical context. It believes both the Old Testament and New Testament are the divinely inspired revelation of God to man and the infallible authoritative rule of faith and conduct. It is Trinitarian, believing that there is only one God, yet three "persons" who are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. God created the world and everything in it; however, man by voluntary transgression fell and thereby incurred not only physical death but also spiritual death, which is separation from God. Man's only hope of redemption is through the shed blood of Jesus Christ the Son of God. Salvation is received through repentance toward God and faith toward Jesus Christ. By the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, being justified by grace through faith, man becomes an heir of God.[14]
The Assemblies of God believes in Christ's virgin birth, his sinless life, his miracles, his substitutionary work on the cross, his bodily resurrection from the dead, his exaltation to the Right Hand of God as told in the Bible. It also believes the Second Coming of Christ is imminent. The Second Coming of Christ includes the rapture of all who have been saved followed by the visible return of Christ to reign on earth for one thousand years. This millennial reign will bring the salvation of Israel and the establishment of universal peace. It believes in a literal Hell where those who do not receive Christ's salvation will go when they die. It also believes in a literal Heaven and that after the Second Coming there will be new heavens and a new earth.[14]
As classical Pentecostals, the Assemblies of God believes all Christians are entitled to and should seek the baptism in the Holy Spirit. This experience is distinct from and subsequent to the experience of salvation. With the baptism in the Holy Spirit comes such experiences as an overflowing fullness of the Spirit, a deepened reverence for God, an intensified consecration to God and dedication to his work, and a more active love for Christ. It is also important for empowering the believer for Christian life and service. The initial evidence of the baptism in the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues "as the Spirit of God gives them utterance."[14]
Sanctification is an act of separation from that which is evil, and of dedication to God. Sanctification is realized in the believer by recognizing his identification with Christ in his death and resurrection, by having faith in that union, and by submitting to the Holy Spirit. The Assemblies of God believes divine healing is an integral part of the gospel and that deliverance from sickness is provided for in the atonement.[14]
Baptism by immersion is practiced as an ordinance instituted by Christ for those who have been saved. Baptism is understood as an outward sign of an inward change, the change from being dead in sin to being alive in Christ. As an ordinance, Communion is also practiced. The Assemblies of God also places a strong emphasis on the fulfillment of the Great Commission and believes that this is the main calling of the church.[14]

You can just wiki Assemblies of God, for more info about it.

hounddog
06-10-2009, 04:53 PM
He was brought up in the Assemblies of God's but as an adult read widely on many religions, spiritual and philosphocial concepts. I think Elvis kind of formed his own religious belief based around his reading.

dannyboy1
06-10-2009, 10:30 PM
debtdbruno said:


Just asked my Mum who is a Born again Christian. She's read a few books on him'

He believed in the full gospel.
'Jesus died for our salvation'.....
These are beliefs of the Assembly of God


You can't say this identifies him as Assembly of God. These criteria would apply to all genuine Christian churchs.

The previous comment from hounddog has summarised the facts very well. Elvis started out in a solid Protestant Christian denomination and added to that from all sorts of spiritual sources throughout his life, including (unfortunately) Larry Geller. This saw him accepting a few beiefs that are not accepted by mainstream Christianity.

I don't believe Elvis was affiliated with any particular church through most of his adult life. In his song selection, he seemed to provide "something for everybody" touching on Roman Catholicism (Miracle of the Rosary) and even neo-Darwinism (Life) in places.

Brian
06-10-2009, 11:00 PM
debtdbruno said:



You can't say this identifies him as Assembly of God. These criteria would apply to all genuine Christian churchs.

The previous comment from hounddog has summarised the facts very well. Elvis started out in a solid Protestant Christian denomination and added to that from all sorts of spiritual sources throughout his life, including (unfortunately) Larry Geller. This saw him accepting a few beiefs that are not accepted by mainstream Christianity.

I don't believe Elvis was affiliated with any particular church through most of his adult life. In his song selection, he seemed to provide "something for everybody" touching on Roman Catholicism (Miracle of the Rosary) and even neo-Darwinism (Life) in places.

As I said earlier Assembly of God is christian so it's pretty similar to all the christian faiths but it was Assembly of God that Elvis was raised in.

The reason he quit attending church as an adult is most likely because he would've disrupted services.

I think the stuff Larry got him into was just a fad nothing more it was done out of curiousity more than anything as he seemed to remain a christian all his life.

LISY
06-11-2009, 12:30 AM
He was brought up in the Assemblies of God's but as an adult read widely on many religions, spiritual and philosphocial concepts. I think Elvis kind of formed his own religious belief based around his reading.

I Agree....

4THEHEART
06-11-2009, 05:25 AM
I believe his belief went in time, deeper and wider than all the tought and organized forms of a certain religion,yet don't think he felt totally comfortable or in an urge to tell anyone how he really felt or believed.Some can't be stricted by exact rules when they have an ever expanding insight.He was an" experienced soul" to me, but this is only my way of thinking about him of course.

debtdbruno
06-11-2009, 11:12 AM
debtdbruno said:



You can't say this identifies him as Assembly of God. These criteria would apply to all genuine Christian churchs.

The previous comment from hounddog has summarised the facts very well. Elvis started out in a solid Protestant Christian denomination and added to that from all sorts of spiritual sources throughout his life, including (unfortunately) Larry Geller. This saw him accepting a few beiefs that are not accepted by mainstream Christianity.

I don't believe Elvis was affiliated with any particular church through most of his adult life. In his song selection, he seemed to provide "something for everybody" touching on Roman Catholicism (Miracle of the Rosary) and even neo-Darwinism (Life) in places.

I simplified it down to bare words, but if you look at 'Raised on Rocks post, you can see the similarities.

Deb

KPM
06-11-2009, 01:43 PM
From what I have read I think Elvis believed in the "born again" experience and many christian churches have that belief. Rex Humbard has claimed to have prayed with Elvis in Vegas and that Elvis was a "born again saved Christian" Now let me clarify that does not mean he did no wrong, or lived the perfect life because he was born again. Life does not suddenly all fall into place from this experience, you still can mess up big time and make terrible mistakes and choices. I Know.

utmom2008
06-11-2009, 01:49 PM
From what I understand the Assembly of God is a Pentecostal church.

Diane

That's correct Diane. Here in the south all Assembly of God and Pentecostal churches are often referred to as "Holy Rollers", since they often feel led to "speak in tongues" and sometimes get on the floor, literally, and roll around.:blush::blink:

midnight
06-11-2009, 01:51 PM
That's correct Diane. Here in the south all Assembly of God and Pentecostal churches are often referred to as "Holy Rollers", since they often feel led to "speak in tongues" and sometimes get on the floor, literally, and roll around.:blush::blink:

The same thing here! My dad's brother is a preacher and he asked my mom and dad to attend one of his services! They got so scared that they had to leave! That is true.:supriced:

Diane
06-11-2009, 03:38 PM
Yes I've heard of the term for Pentecostal "Holy Rollers" too. I've always wanted to attend one of their services just to hear them sing....quite lively I hear.:)

I think Elvis picked what he felt made sense to him from all the different religions he read about in his later years.

Diane

shelley.m.
06-11-2009, 08:19 PM
From what I understand the Assembly of God is a Pentecostal church.

Diane

I believe you're correct,Diane.

shelley.m.
06-11-2009, 08:25 PM
Yes I've heard of the term for Pentecostal "Holy Rollers" too. I've always wanted to attend one of their services just to hear them sing....quite lively I hear.:)

I think Elvis picked what he felt made sense to him from all the different religions he read about in his later years.

Diane

Don't the Baptist's usually have live music as well in their services too?

Brian
06-11-2009, 08:57 PM
Don't the Baptist's usually have live music as well in their services too?

no, not in the church I went to

molokai123
06-11-2009, 10:19 PM
He was brought up in the Assemblies of God's but as an adult read widely on many religions, spiritual and philosphocial concepts. I think Elvis kind of formed his own religious belief based around his reading.

yup i agree(y)

Merry
06-11-2009, 10:46 PM
He was brought up in the Assemblies of God's but as an adult read widely on many religions, spiritual and philosphocial concepts. I think Elvis kind of formed his own religious belief based around his reading.



What amazes me, is that reading Larry's book, Elvis' outlook, from his reading, is exactly the same as mine. I couldn't believe the 'coincidence' again. Although of course, I'm still open to all.

How else can one learn, if you aren't?

LISY
06-12-2009, 02:29 AM
Don't the Baptist's usually have live music as well in their services too?

Baptists in Australia do.....;) drums and electric guitars!!!! LOL

goodelvisgirl
06-12-2009, 07:47 AM
He was brought up in the Assemblies of God's but as an adult read widely on many religions, spiritual and philosphocial concepts. I think Elvis kind of formed his own religious belief based around his reading.

yeah think this sums it up really good question and some good answers to it i read that elvis was catholic is that right or is that miss information

utmom2008
06-12-2009, 10:59 AM
Baptists in Australia do.....;) drums and electric guitars!!!! LOL

They do here in Texas too, at all of the Baptist churches that are "First Baptist." Lots of singing with live instruments too.(y)

Diane
06-12-2009, 11:13 AM
I want to go into a black Pentecostal church and hear and watch them sing their spirituals and move.....can't beat them! I've no doubt that's what got Elvis all excited about singing and dancing....I think I'd get excited in there too.:lol:

Diane

midnight
06-12-2009, 12:48 PM
They do here in Texas too, at all of the Baptist churches that are "First Baptist." Lots of singing with live instruments too.(y)

Same here. In fact, in the summer they often put off huge gospel concerts that are exactly like a rock concerts! I must say they really do keep a lot of their young people involved in their church and they seem to enjoy church. Getting my boys to go to our church is like "pulling teeth". They find it so boring.

LISY
06-12-2009, 07:20 PM
They do here in Texas too, at all of the Baptist churches that are "First Baptist." Lots of singing with live instruments too.(y)

Must be the same style:D...I've been involved in a Baptist church a long time and it's always the same, a lot of kids become musicians in our churches because it's such a normal part of their life..two of mine one learns the drums and the other electric guitar...and my oldest can play piano by ear...it's great to see(y)

cprimm
06-12-2009, 09:59 PM
I attended an Assembly of God church, growing up with two good friends that were Assemblies. They sang the old-timey gospel music and even had guitars playing. That was not done in the Baptist church. The women did not wear makeup, pants or cut their hair. Nowdays, they do wear makeup, pants and cut their hair (at least the ones that I knew back then and seeing them now). They wore long skirts and dresses. The Penticostals have held to not cutting their hair, wearing makeup, long skirts and dresses. The men look about the same as Christians or non-Christians. I loved to go to their church because it was so much more lively than the Baptist church. Their music was so lively. This is Southern Assemblies. Hope this has helped with your question about Assembly of God.

Elvis was very interested in religion and read so much. I have heard that his way of worshiping was singing gospel music.

I agree that being a born-again Christian does not necessarily mean you make the best choices and everything falls into place.

goodelvisgirl
06-13-2009, 08:14 AM
all sounds quite good would be an experience to see them type of churches cos nothin like that where i live only 2 options the catholic chapel or a protestand church whith hymns n readings no live music its all very serious

elvislina
06-13-2009, 08:38 AM
I donīt know. but I think he was out after a special religion , maybe I think I know which religion ;)

KPM
06-14-2009, 02:36 PM
They do here in Texas too, at all of the Baptist churches that are "First Baptist." Lots of singing with live instruments too.(y)
Yes I am a General Baptist and we have drums, guitars, bass,......literally any instrument is allowed in the church.

utmom2008
06-14-2009, 06:22 PM
Don't the Baptist's usually have live music as well in their services too?


no, not in the church I went to


Baptists in Australia do.....;) drums and electric guitars!!!! LOL


They do here in Texas too, at all of the Baptist churches that are "First Baptist." Lots of singing with live instruments too.(y)


Same here. In fact, in the summer they often put off huge gospel concerts that are exactly like a rock concerts!


Must be the same style:D...I've been involved in a Baptist church a long time and it's always the same, a lot of kids become musicians in our churches because it's such a normal part of their life..two of mine one learns the drums and the other electric guitar...and my oldest can play piano by ear...it's great to see(y)


Yes I am a General Baptist and we have drums, guitars, bass,......literally any instrument is allowed in the church.

Interesting.....http://smiley.net.ru/talthi006.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/talthi1.htm)
What kind of Baptist church did you go to Brian? I'm not familiar with any that don't have music.http://smiley.net.ru/talthi011.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/talthi1.htm)

Stryx
06-17-2009, 11:41 AM
Elvis did place the Star of David on his mothers grave, wore a hebrew chai and also the star of david.

He probably had more books on faith based around beliefs other than Christianity than he did on Christianity.

It would seem he was curious about all religions. Elvis and Larry met in the 60's and Elvis was still searching by the time of his death.

From everything that has been said about him it became a way of life for him to search - rather than it just being a fad.


As I said earlier Assembly of God is christian so it's pretty similar to all the christian faiths but it was Assembly of God that Elvis was raised in.

The reason he quit attending church as an adult is most likely because he would've disrupted services.

I think the stuff Larry got him into was just a fad nothing more it was done out of curiousity more than anything as he seemed to remain a christian all his life.

donaldmccurry.63
06-19-2009, 02:24 AM
just read some of the comments on this page am not sure what religion the king was but i do know this if any one his read elvis the final years in this book for some reason he disliked the catholic religion from what i read he disaproved of the way they sew god and other religions

Brian
06-19-2009, 10:23 AM
Interesting.....http://smiley.net.ru/talthi006.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/talthi1.htm)
What kind of Baptist church did you go to Brian? I'm not familiar with any that don't have music.http://smiley.net.ru/talthi011.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/talthi1.htm)

Free will Baptist

sometimes a member of my church will get up and sing
but they don't have guitars and bands that sorta thing.

utmom2008
06-19-2009, 10:45 AM
Free will Baptist

sometimes a member of my church will get up and sing
but they don't have guitars and bands that sorta thing.

Isn't that just simply choosing to sing Acappella?:doh:

Brian
06-19-2009, 11:21 AM
Isn't that just simply choosing to sing Acappella?:doh:

Yeah but they don't do it on a regular basis just every once in awhile
and they don't have bands like in your church.

I've never seen a band playing in my church.

Tony Trout
06-19-2009, 12:52 PM
From what I understand the Assembly of God is a Pentecostal church.

Diane


That is correct, Diane. Elvis was a Christian who was raised in the Pentecostal church but became interested in other religions as he got older via Larry Geller who, IMO, only screwed his head up further.




Wel according to wiki's word on it:

The Assemblies of God's “Cardinal Doctrines" are salvation through Jesus Christ, baptism in the Holy Spirit, divine healing, and the Second Coming of Christ. These beliefs are considered to have a biblical basis and are thus considered non-negotiable.[14]
The doctrinal position of the Assemblies of God is framed in a classical Pentecostal and an Evangelical context. It believes both the Old Testament and New Testament are the divinely inspired revelation of God to man and the infallible authoritative rule of faith and conduct. It is Trinitarian, believing that there is only one God, yet three "persons" who are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. God created the world and everything in it; however, man by voluntary transgression fell and thereby incurred not only physical death but also spiritual death, which is separation from God. Man's only hope of redemption is through the shed blood of Jesus Christ the Son of God. Salvation is received through repentance toward God and faith toward Jesus Christ. By the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, being justified by grace through faith, man becomes an heir of God.[14]
The Assemblies of God believes in Christ's virgin birth, his sinless life, his miracles, his substitutionary work on the cross, his bodily resurrection from the dead, his exaltation to the Right Hand of God as told in the Bible. It also believes the Second Coming of Christ is imminent. The Second Coming of Christ includes the rapture of all who have been saved followed by the visible return of Christ to reign on earth for one thousand years. This millennial reign will bring the salvation of Israel and the establishment of universal peace. It believes in a literal Hell where those who do not receive Christ's salvation will go when they die. It also believes in a literal Heaven and that after the Second Coming there will be new heavens and a new earth.[14]
As classical Pentecostals, the Assemblies of God believes all Christians are entitled to and should seek the baptism in the Holy Spirit. This experience is distinct from and subsequent to the experience of salvation. With the baptism in the Holy Spirit comes such experiences as an overflowing fullness of the Spirit, a deepened reverence for God, an intensified consecration to God and dedication to his work, and a more active love for Christ. It is also important for empowering the believer for Christian life and service. The initial evidence of the baptism in the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues "as the Spirit of God gives them utterance."[14]
Sanctification is an act of separation from that which is evil, and of dedication to God. Sanctification is realized in the believer by recognizing his identification with Christ in his death and resurrection, by having faith in that union, and by submitting to the Holy Spirit. The Assemblies of God believes divine healing is an integral part of the gospel and that deliverance from sickness is provided for in the atonement.[14]
Baptism by immersion is practiced as an ordinance instituted by Christ for those who have been saved. Baptism is understood as an outward sign of an inward change, the change from being dead in sin to being alive in Christ. As an ordinance, Communion is also practiced. The Assemblies of God also places a strong emphasis on the fulfillment of the Great Commission and believes that this is the main calling of the church.[14]

You can just wiki Assemblies of God, for more info about it.

That article nails it, basically.

utmom2008
06-19-2009, 01:01 PM
Yeah but they don't do it on a regular basis just every once in awhile
and they don't have bands like in your church.

I've never seen a band playing in my church.

I'm a Methodist, we get to do all sorts of things that the Baptists don't get to do! ;) http://smiley.net.ru/missmo085.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/missmo3.htm)

Teddy
06-19-2009, 01:06 PM
Like what? http://smiley.net.ru/emorag002.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/emorag1.htm)

utmom2008
06-19-2009, 01:16 PM
Like what? http://smiley.net.ru/emorag002.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/emorag1.htm)

The same things as the Baptists...;)...we just do it in public!
http://smiley.net.ru/missmo085.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/missmo3.htm) http://smiley.net.ru/bigcel005.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/bigcel1.htm) http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth0119.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth4.htm) http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth0167.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth5.htm) http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth0539.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth16.htm) http://smiley.net.ru/missmo013.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/missmo1.htm)

Teddy
06-19-2009, 01:28 PM
The Smoking, Drinking and Dancing the Hoochie-Coo thread suddenly seems terribly neglected :lol:

debtdbruno
06-19-2009, 01:29 PM
The Smoking, Drinking and Dancing the Hoochie-Coo thread suddenly seems terribly neglected :lol:

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

utmom2008
06-19-2009, 01:52 PM
The Smoking, Drinking and Dancing the Hoochie-Coo thread suddenly seems terribly neglected :lol:

Well....since it is Friday, and I like to indulge in all 3 of those activities, I say it's time for it to be brought back to life! Born again...so to speak!;):lol::lmfao:

Teddy
06-20-2009, 03:40 AM
(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)

KPM
06-20-2009, 02:43 PM
We Baptists are not all teetotalers;)and we do indulge in dancing at times and definitely the hoochie coo-but all things in some moderation.:D

john carpenter
06-21-2009, 11:02 AM
From what I understand the Assembly of God is a Pentecostal church.

Diane Penecostal was "the faith" they believed in (so i've read) Diane. They believe in the holy spirit & babtism. I come from they same type of "Holy Rollers"! Speaking in Tongues ect.

utmom2008
06-21-2009, 11:08 AM
We Baptists are not all teetotalers;)and we do indulge in dancing at times and definitely the hoochie coo-but all things in some moderation.:D

:lol: (y) http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth0981.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth29.htm) http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth0889.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth26.htm) http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth0706.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth21.htm) (y)(y)

utmom2008
06-21-2009, 11:10 AM
Penecostal was "the faith" they believed in (so i've read) Diane. They believe in the holy spirit & babtism. I come from they same type of "Holy Rollers"! Speaking in Tongues ect.

Tell us more about that David! It's always interested me, mainly because I really don't understand it!
http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth0983.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth29.htm)

LISY
06-22-2009, 03:58 AM
We Baptists are not all teetotalers;)and we do indulge in dancing at times and definitely the hoochie coo-but all things in some moderation.:D

;) yep definitely, a little white wine and some hoochie coo for sure :D....

john carpenter
06-22-2009, 06:03 PM
Tell us more about that David! It's always interested me, mainly because I really don't understand it!
http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth0983.gif (http://smiley.net.ru/bigoth29.htm)Well Batised by the Holy spirit in water. And recieving the Holy spirit or Holy ghost ...which ever you prefer. And they believe sinners will burn in a lake of fire:lmfao:Now i believe Elvis' religeon wasn't that hardcore Rosanne!