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KPM
04-27-2009, 01:06 PM
Interesting article which looks at all angles on Elvis and his later life.
http://www.goelvis.com/2007/08/10/no-easy-answers-on-tragic-ending-drugs-deepening-depression-heredity-failed-relationships-and-creative-dilemma-share-blame/

Diane
04-27-2009, 01:52 PM
This is one of the best articles I've seen on the reason for Elvis' tragic end.

Thanks so much for posting it Ken!(y)

Diane

midnight
04-27-2009, 02:51 PM
That was an excellent article. Very heartbreaking to read. I hope Elvis finally is at peace and has the happiness he so deserved. Thanks KPM.

javierTCB
04-27-2009, 03:04 PM
Really interesting article.
Many thanks KPM (y)

Ronn
04-27-2009, 07:31 PM
The link doesn't work?

Brian
04-27-2009, 07:48 PM
The link worked for me earlier today but now it's not working.

interesting article thanks for posting Ken

According to Jerry Schilling Elvis would've lived longer had he toured overseas and made A Star is Born is 1976.

I agree with Peter Guralknick though that it wouldn't have solved all his problems.

franny
04-27-2009, 08:05 PM
It's not working for me, either..
I get this message below, whatever that means lol

franny

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utmom2008
04-27-2009, 08:42 PM
It was working earlier today.:doh:
Great article Ken..thanks for posting!(y)

Brian
04-28-2009, 12:47 AM
The link is working right now it seems it was just down for awhile.

elvislady
04-28-2009, 01:21 AM
Thank you for that great insite to the world of elvis!
elvislady(y)

Angeline69
04-28-2009, 02:29 AM
Interesting article. Thanks for sharing (y)

EnigmaticSun
04-28-2009, 03:07 AM
Looks like flying Dutchman Parker was Elvis' enemy after all. It seems Elvis worked his butt off but never really felt acknowledged for anything. Except the love he received from his crowd while performing, that kept him running.

Miss Clawdy
04-28-2009, 07:47 AM
Great article, really very interesting, thank you Ken (y)!

KPM
04-28-2009, 01:08 PM
You are all welcome-I found it just as interesting also.

Tony Trout
04-28-2009, 02:26 PM
According to Jerry Schilling Elvis would've lived longer had he toured overseas and made A Star is Born is 1976.



I disagree with that statement by Jerry. Even if Elvis had made "A Star Is Born" (which, looking back now, I'm glad that he didn't do) and done an overseas tour, things would've changed - but only for a very short time because Elvis needed a continuous challenge - and this wasn't being provided to him at this point in his life. Elvis was on a downhill slide that no one could stop but he, himself.

utmom2008
04-28-2009, 02:56 PM
I disagree with that statement by Jerry. Even if Elvis had made "A Star Is Born" (which, looking back now, I'm glad that he didn't do) and done an overseas tour, things would've changed - but only for a very short time because Elvis needed a continuous challenge - and this wasn't being provided to him at this point in his life. Elvis was on a downhill slide that no one could stop but he, himself.

He also needed serious intervention as well,
or the drug use would have continued to accelerate.:blush:

Diane
04-28-2009, 03:06 PM
Yes Elvis was the kind of person who needed continuous challenges to keep him motivated but it was certainly nothing to be ashamed of, it was part of his basic make-up and he was not the only person who needed that.

I guess it doesn't matter how often some of us stress that people who have an addiction DO need help from others and that Elvis did not get the proper kind.

Diane

KPM
04-28-2009, 03:30 PM
I disagree with that statement by Jerry. Even if Elvis had made "A Star Is Born" (which, looking back now, I'm glad that he didn't do) and done an overseas tour, things would've changed - but only for a very short time because Elvis needed a continuous challenge - and this wasn't being provided to him at this point in his life. Elvis was on a downhill slide that no one could stop but he, himself.
So why did he need a continuous challange-what in his personal make-up made him this way? If he did not even realize he needed a "huge challenge" for motivation how could he address this side of himself? People are complicated, masses of reason and feelings-and they are not always in accord with each other. Its much easier to see the short comings and failings of others-than to see and understand your own. Elvis was no different-nor special in this regard.

Diane
04-28-2009, 03:37 PM
So why did he need a continuous challange-what in his personal make-up made him this way? If he did not even realize he needed a "huge challenge" for motivation how could he address this side of himself? People are complicated, masses of reason and feelings-and they are not always in accord with each other. Its much easier to see the short comings and failings of others-than to see and understand your own. Elvis was no different-nor special in this regard.

(y):notworthy(y):notworthy(y):notworthy

Diane

TotallyInsane
04-28-2009, 04:05 PM
So why did he need a continuous challange-what in his personal make-up made him this way? If he did not even realize he needed a "huge challenge" for motivation how could he address this side of himself? People are complicated, masses of reason and feelings-and they are not always in accord with each other. Its much easier to see the short comings and failings of others-than to see and understand your own. Elvis was no different-nor special in this regard.

Preach it brother!!!
:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy(y)(y)(y)

Brian
04-28-2009, 04:22 PM
I disagree with that statement by Jerry. Even if Elvis had made "A Star Is Born" (which, looking back now, I'm glad that he didn't do) and done an overseas tour, things would've changed - but only for a very short time because Elvis needed a continuous challenge - and this wasn't being provided to him at this point in his life. Elvis was on a downhill slide that no one could stop but he, himself.

I agree it's also clear to me Jerry Schilling has never seen A Star is Born

Ronn
04-28-2009, 07:53 PM
In life and in death, Elvis is always scrutinized by people - whew! That's hard. His own words - "The image is one thing and the human being is another..." rings true.

Jumpsuit Junkie
04-29-2009, 07:47 AM
Looks like flying Dutchman Parker was Elvis' enemy after all. It seems Elvis worked his butt off but never really felt acknowledged for anything. Except the love he received from his crowd while performing, that kept him running.

The Colonel was the Colonel, people give him a bad rap with the benefit of hindsight on their side. The question is would Elvis have let the Colonel intervene in his personal life?


He also needed serious intervention as well,
or the drug use would have continued to accelerate.:blush:

From all accounts, the "guys" say that they all tried to intervene but Elvis would just go back to his old ways after a short period of time. You have to want to be helped.

As the title for this thread aptly says "No easy answers"..

utmom2008
04-29-2009, 10:57 AM
From all accounts, the "guys" say that they all tried to intervene but Elvis would just go back to his old ways after a short period of time. You have to want to be helped.



Yes, that I know from first-hand experience. The 3rd time seemed to be the charm where my Mother-n-law was concerned.:blush:

I know all of the guys have said that at one time or another they suggested that he needed help. Was there ever a "real" intervention though? One where all of your family and friends gather together at the same time?:hmm:

Jumpsuit Junkie
04-29-2009, 11:15 AM
Was there ever a "real" intervention though? One where all of your family and friends gather together at the same time?:hmm:

I seriously doubt any of them had the balls to to that, despite what they have said.

utmom2008
04-29-2009, 11:28 AM
I seriously doubt any of them had the balls to to that, despite what they have said.

:lol:That's what I was thinking as well!:lol:

KPM
04-29-2009, 12:09 PM
I seriously doubt any of them had the balls to to that, despite what they have said.
Yes that is my opinion-all have said they "made an effort" to get him to change or see the truth.
I take them at their word-but the phrase "made an effort" could mean anything, from an off hand kidding in nature-
"Elvis you better watch that stuff son" with a smile..........
to a total intervention with everyone present, standing together ready to do whatever is necessary to get him help....... and everything in between these two options.

Miss Clawdy
04-29-2009, 02:20 PM
According to Jerry Schilling Elvis would've lived longer had he toured overseas and made A Star is Born is 1976.

I agree with Jerry Schilling. I tend to believe that being good friend with Elvis he might knew him better than we do. Elvis would have had to get in shape for A Star is Born, like he did for Aloha and I think any creative work, challenge, distraction however you want to call it could have been more than helpful for him, like a sort of therapy. No matter what character he should have played I am sure he would have put all his energy and ability in this role.
Next step could have been a world tour for several months. Elvis would have been busy for a long time and possibly somewhere along the line something had made his emotional fatigue change....