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Tommy
04-22-2009, 02:53 PM
With the clip on the front page of Ann-Margret's interview talking about Elvis, what do you think about it and her relationship with Elvis, what were they doing? What year did this relationship take place? What was she thinking about Priscilla being at Graceland, and how did Elvis get away with this?
SunStudios54
04-22-2009, 03:38 PM
Ann was extremely good to Elvis, in my opinion.
Brian
04-22-2009, 03:40 PM
I think Elvis was a lucky man he was dating Ann Margret while he had Priscilla
back at Graceland.
Elvis and Ann Margret dated for a year or just a little over one year in 1963-1964.
I don't think Ann knew about Elvis having a girlfriend when they began dating but at some point Elvis told her about it because Ann makes a brief reference to this in her autobiography.
I've heard Ann was quite upset that Elvis abruptly ended their relationship as she wanted to continue the relationship even after she knew about Priscilla
Elvis got away with it because he was Elvis, I doubt Priscilla would have put up with it if it were anyone else
It was good to be Elvis
I think it's wonderful Ann continues to talk about Elvis in a nice and respectful way.
utmom2008
04-22-2009, 04:08 PM
I think it's wonderful Ann continues to talk about Elvis in a nice and respectful way.
(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
GraceeD1970
04-22-2009, 06:16 PM
Well said Brian. I think Elvis could get away w/ things nobody could ever dream of.
Unchained Melody
04-23-2009, 02:20 AM
Elvis got away with it just like he did with many of his secret affairs he had while with Priscilla, he was smart and knew how to play the game. He was a bachelor, not meant for marriage. He loved the life, not being tied down.
Donut
04-23-2009, 02:41 AM
There's no way to know what went between the two of them because we don't have Elvis version of the story but hearing Ann talk and some of the guys about it sounds like it was really serious and it seems they kept in touch untill he died so wether Elvis realised Priscilla was not what he was looking for after he brought her to Memphis or he just wanted someone waiting for him at home and playing the perfect wife for all to see. That was not the last time he took a long-term lover so I don't think his cheating was due to being exposed constantly to temptation at all...
TotallyInsane
04-23-2009, 02:46 AM
There's no way to know what went between the two of them because we don't have Elvis version of the story but hearing Ann talk and some of the guys about it sounds like it was really serious and it seems they kept in touch untill he died so wether Elvis realised Priscilla was not what he was looking for after he brought her to Memphis or he just wanted someone waiting for him at home and playing the perfect wife for all to see. That was not the last time he took a long-term lover so I don't think his cheating was due to being exposed constantly to temptation at all...
(y)(y)(y)(y)
Getlo
04-23-2009, 03:32 AM
what were they doing?
Going at it like rabbits, and rightly so.
Good for them, too.
Donut
04-23-2009, 03:43 AM
Going at it like rabbits, and rightly so.
Nah... :lol:
utmom2008
04-23-2009, 08:41 AM
Going at it like rabbits, and rightly so.
Good for them, too.
:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:
Sonny
04-23-2009, 09:47 AM
That is what they did hahaha, and it wasn't even Easter...
Tommy
04-23-2009, 10:00 AM
Elvis got away with it just like he did with many of his secret affairs he had while with Priscilla, he was smart and knew how to play the game. He was a bachelor, not meant for marriage. He loved the life, not being tied down.
What a shame for two lovely women he deceived and had their hearts broken.
elvia7
04-23-2009, 10:22 AM
What a shame for two lovely women he deceived and had their hearts broken.
I love very much our ELVIS but...
Agree with TOMMY ...
Two women - was hurt.
Tommy
04-23-2009, 11:27 AM
I love very much our ELVIS but...
Agree with TOMMY ...
Two women - was hurt.
I agree (y)(y)
franny
04-23-2009, 11:33 AM
That is what they did hahaha, and it wasn't even Easter...
It doesn't have to be Easter :P
I think Elvis and Ann were more well-suited for each other, but he didn't want a wife who was an actress..it's too bad he thought like that, but it's what he wanted...
franny
Brian
04-23-2009, 12:57 PM
There's no way to know what went between the two of them because we don't have Elvis version of the story but hearing Ann talk and some of the guys about it sounds like it was really serious and it seems they kept in touch untill he died so wether Elvis realised Priscilla was not what he was looking for after he brought her to Memphis or he just wanted someone waiting for him at home and playing the perfect wife for all to see. That was not the last time he took a long-term lover so I don't think his cheating was due to being exposed constantly to temptation at all...
I think temptation is exactly what it was
Elvis and Ann Margret relationship ended up being much more than just fling but it started out that way
Elvis thought Ann Margret was really beautiful and sexy so he asked her out
that's how it started it didn't have anything to do with him not being happy with Priscilla.
If Ann Margret was back home at Graceland and it was Priscilla who was a co-star he would've had an affair with her and cheated on Ann Margret.
He would've also had other affairs and cheated on Ann had they stayed together.
Elvis liked the idea of romancing Ann Margret while going back to Graceland and romancing Priscilla.
Elvis just liked woman too much he couldn't be faithful to anyone.
Donut
04-23-2009, 01:27 PM
it didn't have anything to do with him not being happy with Priscilla.
To me temptation or 'a funny night' with another woman is one thing and having long-term relationships with more than one woman at a time is completely different. That tells me something was very wrong there... I don't know you but if someone did that to me repeatedly and had the nerve to tell me that he loved me I would laugh so hard that he could even see my wisdom tooth.
Tommy
04-23-2009, 01:45 PM
To me temptation or 'a funny night' with another woman is one thing and having long-term relationships with more than one woman at a time is completely different. That tells me something was very wrong there... I don't know you but if someone did that to me repeatedly and had the nerve to tell me that he loved me I would laugh so hard that he could even see my wisdom tooth.
This is true, Elvis I wonder what he was thinking? The weird thing is he didn't seem to be afraid of loosing his one true love, or maybe he just couldn't help himself. I will always wonder why he didn't give up Priscilla and go for Ann-Margret? Maybe because if the public knew about Priscilla, his career would have gone down the drain. Do you think??
I don't think Ann-Margret ever got over him either. Still she is and has been better off I believe with Roger Smith.
Donut
04-23-2009, 02:07 PM
This is true, Elvis I wonder what he was thinking? The weird thing is he didn't seem to be afraid of loosing his one true love, or maybe he just couldn't help himself. I will always wonder why he didn't give up Priscilla and go for Ann-Margret? Maybe because if the public knew about Priscilla, his career would have gone down the drain. Do you think??
I don't think Ann-Margret ever got over him either. Still she is and has been better off I believe with Roger Smith.
I don't know Tommy. In my opinion it could have been a combination of keeping his word, some kind of affection towards Priscilla and thinking he could be a good wife to him. But there are things you simply don't do and less repeatedly to someone if you really are in love with them, in part because you know it will hurt the one you supposedly love and in part because it comes naturally when you are in that 'state'. I guess I'm more the kind of person who adds 1+1 and comes to the conclussion that it makes 2 rather than going for the romantic version of the stories.
I don't know if Ann has got over Elvis but she sure shows great respect and love for him after all these years (y). She looked really affected at his funeral too...
Tommy
04-23-2009, 02:56 PM
I don't know if Ann has got over Elvis but she sure shows great respect and love for him after all these years (y). She looked really affected at his funeral too...
I know, I can't understand that either, how she could be so kind and forgiving after what he did.
Brian
04-23-2009, 03:23 PM
To me temptation or 'a funny night' with another woman is one thing and having long-term relationships with more than one woman at a time is completely different. That tells me something was very wrong there... I don't know you but if someone did that to me repeatedly and had the nerve to tell me that he loved me I would laugh so hard that he could even see my wisdom tooth.
When Elvis dated Anita Wood he had long term relationships with
Bonnie Bunkley and Sandy Ferra (Sandy Martindale)
He even began seeing Priscilla and corresponding with her when he was still with Anita. That doesn't mean he didn't love or care about Anita that's just the way he was. The women he dated put up with it as long as they did because he was Elvis.
He had another long term relationship with Sheila Ryan when he was with Linda Thompson
but that didn't mean he didn't love Linda Thompson.
Just because he had long term relationships with other women when he was with Priscilla doesn't mean he didn't care or love her If it were anyone else you could say that and you would probably be right but when it pertains to Elvis that wasn't necessarily the case.
utmom2008
04-23-2009, 03:44 PM
I don't think Ann-Margret ever got over him either.
I know, I can't understand that either, how she could be so kind and forgiving after what he did.
I agree with you Tommy. She has obviously been better off with Roger Smith, they must have a strong relationship.
I don't think she ever got over Elvis either.....I think it's part "first love" and part "soul mate" emotions. Obviously, she loved, and continues to love him dearly. Roger Smith is to be admired, he must know that his wife loved another man so much.
And I agree with what Donut said...she did look literally devastated at his funeral. So did Linda Thompson. Those 2 ladies faces are the ones that have stayed with me 32 years later.:sad:
Tommy
04-23-2009, 04:04 PM
I agree with you Tommy. She has obviously been better off with Roger Smith, they must have a strong relationship.
I don't think she ever got over Elvis either.....I think it's part "first love" and part "soul mate" emotions. Obviously, she loved, and continues to love him dearly. Roger Smith is to be admired, he must know that his wife loved another man so much.
And I agree with what Donut said...she did look literally devastated at his funeral. So did Linda Thompson. Those 2 ladies faces are the ones that have stayed with me 32 years later.:sad:
It's all true what you say, Ann-Margret sure does have a great husband.
Tommy
04-23-2009, 04:06 PM
When Elvis dated Anita Wood he had long term relationships with
Bonnie Bunkley and Sandy Ferra (Sandy Martindale)
He even began seeing Priscilla and corresponding with her when he was still with Anita. That doesn't mean he didn't love or care about Anita that's just the way he was. The women he dated put up with it as long as they did because he was Elvis.
He had another long term relationship with Sheila Ryan when he was with Linda Thompson
but that didn't mean he didn't love Linda Thompson.
Just because he had long term relationships with other women when he was with Priscilla doesn't mean he didn't care or love her If it were anyone else you could say that and you would probably be right but when it pertains to Elvis that wasn't necessarily the case.
This is true, I just don't understand these women.
utmom2008
04-23-2009, 04:12 PM
This is true, I just don't understand these women.
There's an interview on Youtube of Linda Thompson on Larry King. She talks about Elvis being unfaithful to her. She goes on to say that he would always tell her that it "didn't mean anything", that he didn't "love" these other women. She says that in his heart he really felt that way.....that he was unfaithful in a "physical" sense, but never in an "emotional" sense. I remember thinking....only Elvis could get away with that answer.:lol:
Merry
04-23-2009, 04:35 PM
Elvis was a bachelor, the ladies already knew the situation, (who wouldn't have known the situation?) and accepted it. They wanted his company, he shared.
They knew he truly loved them. Some he loved their company, only. There is a spiritual connection with Elvis, and it is all about acceptance, honour and unconditional love.
Merry
04-23-2009, 04:44 PM
I understand the "emotional' or "spiritual" totally. However, I could only be a one and only.
They made their decisions, they wanted him, too. Consenting adults.
Tommy
04-23-2009, 04:45 PM
There's an interview on Youtube of Linda Thompson on Larry King. She talks about Elvis being unfaithful to her. She goes on to say that he would always tell her that it "didn't mean anything", that he didn't "love" these other women. She says that in his heart he really felt that way.....that he was unfaithful in a "physical" sense, but never in an "emotional" sense. I remember thinking....only Elvis could get away with that answer.:lol:
Right, only Elvis could get away with that,:lol: we know he didn't always, his wife got tried of it.
Tommy
04-23-2009, 04:47 PM
Elvis was a bachelor, the ladies already knew the situation, (who wouldn't have known the situation?) and accepted it. They wanted his company, he shared.
They knew he truly loved them. Some he loved their company, only. There is a spiritual connection with Elvis, and it is all about acceptance, honour and unconditional love.
How about with him, where is Elvis' unconditional love?
Merry
04-23-2009, 04:58 PM
How about with him, where is Elvis' unconditional love?
The person I know, felt his love, and very much, accepting the situation, as she was aware of it. She knew he loved her very much. It was a spiritual connection, Tommy. Something not many of us are lucky enough to feel. Some do, I *have. Consenting adults, as I've said, they made their decision, as such.
midnight
04-23-2009, 06:06 PM
The person I know, felt his love, and very much, accepting the situation, as she was aware of it. She knew he loved her very much. It was a spiritual connection, Tommy. Something not many of us are lucky enough to feel. Some do, I *have. Consenting adults, as I've said, they made their decision, as such.
Jess, I am so sorry but I do not have a clue what you are talking about. I am lost!!:blink::blink:
Tommy
04-23-2009, 06:42 PM
The person I know, felt his love, and very much, accepting the situation, as she was aware of it. She knew he loved her very much. It was a spiritual connection, Tommy. Something not many of us are lucky enough to feel. Some do, I *have. Consenting adults, as I've said, they made their decision, as such.
Spiritual is.........not composed of matter...that would be a ghost.
Merry
04-23-2009, 07:11 PM
Spiritual is.........not composed of matter...that would be a ghost.
LOL, Tommy, perhaps, perhaps, not. ;):)
shelley.m.
04-23-2009, 08:25 PM
It doesn't have to be Easter :P
I think Elvis and Ann were more well-suited for each other, but he didn't want a wife who was an actress..it's too bad he thought like that, but it's what he wanted...
franny
(y)I agree 100% with you there,Franny.(y)Elvis was not the marrying kind.He liked to play the field.I've always found that somewhatly funny,that Elvis really never had many girlfriends when he was a nobody but after the fame and fortune,every woman wanted him!
Getlo
04-23-2009, 08:37 PM
To me temptation or 'a funny night' with another woman is one thing and having long-term relationships with more than one woman at a time is completely different.
No, it is exactly the same thing.
Cheating.
Deception.
Wrong.
Elvis did it simply because he could.
Getlo
04-23-2009, 08:39 PM
I know, I can't understand that either, how she could be so kind and forgiving after what he did.
Same reason some women stay with their men after being beaten up.
Sheer stupidity.
utmom2008
04-23-2009, 10:32 PM
Jess, I am so sorry but I do not have a clue what you are talking about. I am lost!!:blink::blink:
Welcome to my world.;):lol:
TotallyInsane
04-23-2009, 10:40 PM
The person I know, felt his love, and very much, accepting the situation, as she was aware of it. She knew he loved her very much. It was a spiritual connection, Tommy. Something not many of us are lucky enough to feel. Some do, I *have. Consenting adults, as I've said, they made their decision, as such.
So, are you saying you know someone that slept with Elvis? Is this Genie or do you know 2 people that had a connection to Elvis?
Donut
04-24-2009, 03:17 AM
When Elvis dated Anita Wood he had long term relationships with
Bonnie Bunkley and Sandy Ferra (Sandy Martindale)
He even began seeing Priscilla and corresponding with her when he was still with Anita. That doesn't mean he didn't love or care about Anita that's just the way he was. The women he dated put up with it as long as they did because he was Elvis.
He had another long term relationship with Sheila Ryan when he was with Linda Thompson
but that didn't mean he didn't love Linda Thompson.
Just because he had long term relationships with other women when he was with Priscilla doesn't mean he didn't care or love her If it were anyone else you could say that and you would probably be right but when it pertains to Elvis that wasn't necessarily the case.
Maybe the problem is I've never seen Elvis like a 'different kind of human being' like it seems he is sometimes seen and I don't mean it like an offence to anyone. He was no different, it was those around him who treated him in a different way. In my opinion he did that to every girl he was with because he had so many to choose from that the infatuation with them wore off much too soon.
No, it is exactly the same thing.
Cheating.
Deception.
Wrong.
Elvis did it simply because he could.
To me is very different what he did from an indiscreption of one night though both mean cheating. Slipping up once is giving in to temptation but maintaining long lasting relationships with many women at a time is cheating deliberately.
I wonder how many of them would have consented that if he wasn't rich and famous though.
Donut
04-24-2009, 03:34 AM
They wanted his company, he shared.
A funny way to look at it :lol:
They made their decisions, they wanted him, too. Consenting adults.
Of course, they can't complain because they consented it. One went as far as marrying him. I have great respect for the ones that left when they found out what was going on.
Donut
04-24-2009, 05:08 AM
There's an interview on Youtube of Linda Thompson on Larry King. She talks about Elvis being unfaithful to her. She goes on to say that he would always tell her that it "didn't mean anything", that he didn't "love" these other women. She says that in his heart he really felt that way.....that he was unfaithful in a "physical" sense, but never in an "emotional" sense. I remember thinking....only Elvis could get away with that answer.:lol:
:laughing: I remember watching 'Elvis The Ultimate Collection' where Linda, Sheila, Barbara and another one whose name escapes me now say almost the same thing at the end of their interviews. It's funny knowing that at least a pair or three of them were with him at the same time yet he convinced each of them that they were 'the one' and they still believe it.
Tommy
04-24-2009, 06:42 AM
:laughing: I remember watching 'Elvis The Ultimate Collection' where Linda, Sheila, Barbara and another one whose name escapes me now say almost the same thing at the end of their interviews. It's funny knowing that at least a pair or three of them were with him at the same time yet he convinced each of them that they were 'the one' and they still believe it.
This is interesting, I can't understand why they would believe it. :lol:
Tommy
04-24-2009, 06:45 AM
Same reason some women stay with their men after being beaten up.
Sheer stupidity.
This is true, although these women need help, I feel sorry for them. Back to Ann-Margret, I sure wish I knew what was in her head.
beckelvis
04-24-2009, 07:08 AM
AGREE WITH TOMMY(y)(y)(y)THE TWO BROKE HIS HEART.:'(
"I wonder how many of them would have consented that if he wasn't rich and famous though. "
The answer is not many.Elvis was able to do what he did because of his celebrity.It's the same reason so many fans can excuse his behaviour.There is always a different set of standards and rules for celebrities.Especially for someone of Elvis' magnitude.He was just enjoying the fruits of being "Elvis" when it came to the women.People are kidding themselves when they try to attach more to it than that.Certainly the people involved were not able to see the reality of it all.How many here would accept that type of relationship with their spouse or significant other?Hopefully not many.It doesnt work that way in the real world.Elvis just had so many temptations that he just couldnt resist.I know he cared for many of the people he was involved with.However, I still think he would have shown greater restraint if his true feelings towards his partners was genuine.I believe Elvis was a master at telling people what they wanted to hear to get what he wanted.I think he was very good at making the women feel they were special.Basically Im saying men are complete animals when you get right down to it.Elvis was no different.It was good to be the "king";)
Donut
04-24-2009, 09:03 AM
"I wonder how many of them would have consented that if he wasn't rich and famous though. "
The answer is not many.Elvis was able to do what he did because of his celebrity.It's the same reason so many fans can excuse his behaviour.There is always a different set of standards and rules for celebrities.Especially for someone of Elvis' magnitude.He was just enjoying the fruits of being "Elvis" when it came to the women.People are kidding themselves when they try to attach more to it than that.Certainly the people involved were not able to see the reality of it all.How many here would accept that type of relationship with their spouse or significant other?Hopefully not many.It doesnt work that way in the real world.Elvis just had so many temptations that he just couldnt resist. I know he cared for many of the people he was involved with.However, I still think he would have shown greater restraint if his true feelings towards his partners was genuine.I believe Elvis was a master at telling people what they wanted to hear to get what he wanted.I think he was very good at making the women feel they were special.Basically Im saying men are complete animals when you get right down to it.Elvis was no different.It was good to be the "king";)
Great post jak. Good to see you here again btw...
SleepyJack
04-24-2009, 09:28 AM
I always think there was a huge battle going on inside Elvis a lot of the time.... he had to be many different things all at once,or at least felt that he had to be... He had to keep up the huge image that was ELVIS the star, part of him wanted to be the good husband,father and family man that his mother would have approved of,at the same time he was surrounded by his "boys" and had to play the macho,fun-loving one-of-the-guys.... I don`t think Elvis ever really got a chance to find out who he was.. he certainly didn`t get to develop in the way that most people do.It is very hard to understand the whole situation as an ordinary guy in the street.... the adulation and the opportunities that came his way would have been almost impossible to ignore.. I`m not trying to make excuses for his weaknesses, or the almost childlike way he could play with people and their emotions.... but, if he really did love any of these women he would have been faithful..and wanted to be faithful..... thing is..at the end of the day...he was ELVIS!
Jumpsuit Junkie
04-24-2009, 10:50 AM
Ann-Margret seems to have meant a great deal to Elvis considering he still sent her flowers every time she opened in Vegas until he died.
I suppose that Elvis was just enjoying the fruits of the position he was in. Lets be honest, most guys in Elvis' position, given the opportunity to stray or have multiple partners without reprisals would do the same.
There is no justification for his behaviour, but if these women were willing to put up with him, then who are we to judge consenting adults. On the other hand, if you marry someone, you make a vow to each other, that IMO is more important that some fling :nono:
Tommy
04-24-2009, 10:52 AM
On the other hand, if you marry someone, you make a vow to each other, that IMO is more important that some fling :nono:
This so true..I agree, thanks for posting.(y)
Brian
04-24-2009, 11:20 AM
Another way to look at the Elvis and Ann Margret relationship
When Elvis starting seeing Ann she didn't know about Priscilla
and when she found out she probably figured they aren't married
If Elvis and Priscilla were married at that time i doubt Ann Margret would've started seeing Elvis.
Plus when she did find out Elvis was seeing Priscilla he might've dowplayed how serious it was between them for awhile anyway.
Tommy
04-24-2009, 11:34 AM
relationship
Plus when she did find out Elvis was seeing Priscilla he might've dowplayed how serious it was between them for awhile anyway.
This is true, he could have downplayed this. (y) Although Priscilla leaving at Graceland should have been enough for Ann-Margret to say no more.
Getlo
04-24-2009, 08:17 PM
Slipping up once is giving in to temptation but maintaining long lasting relationships with many women at a time is cheating deliberately.
Newsflash: slipping up even just once is also cheating deliberately!
Doesn't matter whether it's once, or 100 times.
Doesn't matter if it's with one woman, or 100 women.
Doesn't matter if it's behind your wife's back or your girlfrend's.
No matter which way you slice it, cheating is cheating.
Elvis cheated.
On Ann-Margret, on Cilla and on every single woman he dated.
Donut
04-25-2009, 04:39 AM
Newsflash: slipping up even just once is also cheating deliberately!
Doesn't matter whether it's once, or 100 times.
Doesn't matter if it's with one woman, or 100 women.
Doesn't matter if it's behind your wife's back or your girlfrend's.
No matter which way you slice it, cheating is cheating.
Elvis cheated.
On Ann-Margret, on Cilla and on every single woman he dated.
Doesn't matter to you. I don't hurt the same if someone steps on my foot once than if someone steps on my foot 20 times in a row.
midnight
04-25-2009, 04:40 AM
Newsflash: slipping up even just once is also cheating deliberately!
Doesn't matter whether it's once, or 100 times.
Doesn't matter if it's with one woman, or 100 women.
Doesn't matter if it's behind your wife's back or your girlfrend's.
No matter which way you slice it, cheating is cheating.
Elvis cheated.
On Ann-Margret, on Cilla and on every single woman he dated.
I agree with you on this one Getlo.(y) There has been many lines used by the "parties involved" to cover up their actions but cheating is cheating.
midnight
04-25-2009, 04:43 AM
Doesn't matter to you. I don't hurt the same if someone steps on my foot once than if someone steps on my foot 20 times in a row.
I am thinking it would depend on the type of relationship you are in. I guess if you were involved with someone for many years and you thought everything was fine, only to discover he/she had a one night stand it would be devastating!
midnight
04-25-2009, 04:49 AM
If my hubby had an affair even a "one nighter", our marriage would be over! I am not saying we would not try and make it work but I would be slapping it up in his face so often, he would have to leave! I would make his life soooo miserable!!!!:bangin::argue::lol:
Donut
04-25-2009, 05:04 AM
I am thinking it would depend on the type of relationship you are in. I guess if you were involved with someone for many years and you thought everything was fine, only to discover he/she had a one night stand it would be devastating!
I would sure take it worse if I found out he has been maintaining 2 or 3 romantic relationships at the same time than having had a one night stand.
Getlo
04-25-2009, 05:22 AM
Doesn't matter to you. I don't hurt the same if someone steps on my foot once than if someone steps on my foot 20 times in a row.
Then I sincerely hope you enjoy your time as a relationship doormat.
Like the man sang, "Once is enough ..."
Donut
04-25-2009, 05:55 AM
Then I sincerely hope you enjoy your time as a relationship doormat.
I'm not married but thanks anyway. Have you been reading my posts at all or you are quoting me by mistake?
That was not the last time he took a long-term lover so I don't think his cheating was due to being exposed constantly to temptation at all...
To me is very different what he did from an indiscreption of one night though both mean cheating.
Getlo
04-25-2009, 06:04 AM
Have you been reading my posts at all or you are quoting me by mistake?
Please ... ;)
I don't hurt the same if someone steps on my foot once than if someone steps on my foot 20 times in a row.
MissyM
04-25-2009, 06:14 AM
For one thing, Priscilla wasn't there but about 4 months before he had the affair with Ann. Not that it makes a difference.
Elvis had a poor example set about how men treat women. Again, not that it makes it right but I do think we are effected by what we see. We tend to think something is "normal" that may not be. Vernon and married men in Elvis's life set that poor example of what a husband/partner should be.
Elvis had extra women because he oozed sexuality and he was in a place in which women were constantly available. I don't think it was all attraction either. From experience, it is a real ego stroke to be the "one" he picks. And being on Elvis's arm for more than one night was too. I don't think it's beyond reality that, that was a big part of it for the women.
I think with Ann there was a very strong physical passionate attraction. You can see it. I think it did turn into something more though, a great friendship and connection. But if it was that strong, he would have sent Priscilla packing when he had the chance. Many couples who find themselves "deeply" in love will find a way to make things work period.
I think Elvis knew in his mind and heart that he would not be able to commit to a faithful relationship. I also think that is why he waited so long to marry Priscilla and would not have, had circumstances been different.
Elvis was like a lawyer, he rationalized his infedelities for various reasons.
Once he married and made that promise to Priscilla, I believe that he planned to try to be faithful. I guess she did him a favor by cheating on him, giving him the perfect excuse to go back to his old ways.
Men are less forgiving if they are cheated on.
But for any women to even think for one second that Elvis would be faithful to them, they'd have to be out of their minds. Most knew he was in a relationship and they were the other women for a time. Even Priscilla was.
So it was the idea of being his main women for a while that was a big attraction. I think many of them thought they could hang with this and found out they couldn't, they wanted more.
And I think Elvis like most men liked the passion that is there in the newness of a relationship, but like so many things he got bored. Let's face it, the heat is on in the beginning but a mature person finds a way to be faithful when the heat gets turned down. But Elvis was not by any means a mature person. To me that is the bottom line and the fact that he grew up thinking men in general didn't have to respect women that way.
Elvis had the capacity to love in a very big way. Did he love deeply? I don't know. I think with women, love was pretty superficial because it was more about how Elvis and Elvis's needs being met, not the women involved. And I think he knew who he was and I think he also felt that they should just be grateful that he was picking them to be a part of his life.
Maybe that sounds weird, but that is the case with a lot of men in his position.
And there is a certain amount of reality. They got what they wanted, being his women, and he got what he wanted. Most of the women changed the game plan, in wanting more. That's when he managed to get rid of them and move on to another.
The problem was, I think in some ways he needed more to. But he sabotaged that by being immature and not being able to wait, commit, and sacrifice to get his need to be loved in a more satisfying way.
Donut
04-25-2009, 06:36 AM
Please ... ;)
Huh? ...;)
Let's try this: To stamp on someone's foot once= unacceptable, Do it more than once= the height of nerve.
Tommy
04-25-2009, 07:15 AM
Please stay on topic, do we have to go through this with every thread by closing it.
Merry
04-29-2009, 04:02 PM
Yes, honey, it's a fascinating subject, one I love a lot. One has to "listen" as a wise *man advised me, and I try! lol
Tommy
04-29-2009, 04:46 PM
Please if you cannot stay on topic, this thread sadly will have to be closed. I'm trying not to have to do this.
TotallyInsane
04-29-2009, 04:54 PM
Thanks Tommy. This thread now makes more sense.
utmom2008
04-29-2009, 04:54 PM
Please if you cannot stay on topic, this thread sadly will have to be closed. I'm trying not to have to do this.
:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
Tommy
04-29-2009, 05:05 PM
I hope it stays this way, thank you.
utmom2008
04-29-2009, 05:06 PM
I hope it stays this way, thank you.
You are very welcome!:notworthy
Brian
04-29-2009, 05:57 PM
I'll try and get this thread back on topic
Does anybody think Elvis and Ann Margret have been overrated as a couple by some people like I do?
I mean they had a great time together while they were actually together but this whole idea that Elvis should've married Ann Margret and if they had they would've been the ultimate couple and had a really great life together I don't agree with.
First off almost all of Elvis serious relationships lasted from 2-4 years take Anita Wood for example she and Elvis dated for about 4 years then she started to want to settle down and get married while Elvis didn't so Anita ended up getting married and having children with someone else same thing with Linda Thompson and the same thing would've have happened if he stayed with Ann longer. Me personally I respect a woman who works and makes her own money while Elvis really wanted his wife to stay at home that would have never worked out between him and Ann and if they had gotten married and Ann continued to work when would they see each other.
Elvis would've also carried on with his other women as he couldn't be faithful to anyone.
I read in Ann Margret's biography that she had problems with alcohol and pills so if her and Elvis had married maybe they would've ended up doing pills together. that's something to think about
I think if Elvis had married Ann Margret instead of Priscilla the only big difference would've that Elvis would've introduced her as his ex-wife in Vegas while sitting next to Sheila Ryan instead of Priscilla
Stryx
04-29-2009, 06:00 PM
Well - that's assuming Ann would have decided to leave Elvis like Cilla did. She may have put up with his affairs. Who knows?
Brian
04-29-2009, 06:06 PM
Well - that's assuming Ann would have decided to leave Elvis like Cilla did. She may have put up with his affairs. Who knows?
I doubt very seriously she would have.
All of Elvis women got real tired of it after awhile.
elvisfan92
04-29-2009, 07:30 PM
Elvis got away with it just like he did with many of his secret affairs he had while with Priscilla, he was smart and knew how to play the game. He was a mustang not ready to be tame, not meant for marriage. He loved the life, not being tied down.
Genie
04-29-2009, 07:53 PM
Spiritual is.........not composed of matter...that would be a ghost.
:blush: Tommy?
Where did my posts go?
Was it because I said something about the spirit is not a ghost? I leave my office for a few hours and everything is gone?
Genie
04-29-2009, 07:58 PM
Welcome to my world.;):lol:
;) Oddly enough I know exactly what Jess is saying, and why. So does someone reading this that has yet to sign in... which I wish they would get around to.
What went down that deleted my posts? That is what I don't understand.
Genie
04-29-2009, 08:00 PM
I know, I can't understand that either, how she could be so kind and forgiving after what he did.
:'(
Cilla did the worst and she did it first.... honest. No matter what she tries to convey to the public.
Genie
04-29-2009, 08:04 PM
I doubt very seriously she would have.
All of Elvis women got real tired of it after awhile.
:blush: Guess what guys and gals..................Elvis had "Friends" I being one of them. and these particular ladies were not lovers...they were company, and I hate to put Elvis in this light, but he was looking for comfort, most of the woman I know who slept with him, did exactly that...sleep with him.
I know of 3 who had a more serious relationship.........but considering Cilla rolling her eyes at her karate instructer (ugh..who was most ugly!) I don't blame him. It;s not a good thing, but he was only human.
Genie
04-29-2009, 08:38 PM
Newsflash: slipping up even just once is also cheating deliberately!
Doesn't matter whether it's once, or 100 times.
Doesn't matter if it's with one woman, or 100 women.
Doesn't matter if it's behind your wife's back or your girlfrend's.
No matter which way you slice it, cheating is cheating.
Elvis cheated.
On Ann-Margret, on Cilla and on every single woman he dated.
:angry: And your facts are from what sorce really?? :lmfao:
utmom2008
04-29-2009, 08:44 PM
:blush: Tommy?
Where did my posts go?
Was it because I said something about the spirit is not a ghost? I leave my office for a few hours and everything is gone?
They went off-topic.......
Elvis&me
04-29-2009, 10:07 PM
I heard that When Ann-margeret was at the primer of her movie bye bye birdie shortly after Viva Las Vegas, a repoter asked her about Elvis and her and she said that they where engaged and planed to be married. when elvis found out about he wanted to defend himslef like a man and Ended the Affair and then strighten everything out With Priscilla.
Elvis&me
04-29-2009, 10:13 PM
There's an interview on Youtube of Linda Thompson on Larry King. She talks about Elvis being unfaithful to her. She goes on to say that he would always tell her that it "didn't mean anything", that he didn't "love" these other women. She says that in his heart he really felt that way.....that he was unfaithful in a "physical" sense, but never in an "emotional" sense. I remember thinking....only Elvis could get away with that answer.:lol:
You think that these woman he dated should have known not to get so rapped up in him, Elvis had everything from Looks, homes, money there was no way that even when he did get married that he would stop having affiars. I do feel for the woman who got hurt. THE KING FOREVER :king:
Donut
04-30-2009, 03:48 AM
Some quotes on Elvis from Ann-Margret's book.
Posted by Marie on elvisnachrichten.
http://www.elvisnachrichten.de/showthread.php?t=15831
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