What tour would you have filmed?

[medleyofcostumes]

As everybody knows, the following Vegas / Tours were officially filmed, at least in part:

Las Vegas: August 1970 (frorTTWII)
Tour: April 1972 (for ON TOUR)
Hawaii: January 1973 (for ALOHA FROM HAWAII)
Tour: June 1977 (for CBS SPECIAL)

In retrospective, which tour / Vegas / Tahoe would you have filmed?
Most of you would say - all of them!! But if you had to choose one, which one and why?

If I l had to choose just one, I would have filmed the December 1976 tour. From the 8mm films and the audio recordings available, one can notice how fit Elvis was after a very mediocre year of touring. EP was also in great spirits and had a 5 star repertoire with songs like 'The first time ever I saw your face', 'Rags to Riches' 'Mystery Train-Tiger Man' and 'Unchained Melody' among others.

Just a couple of weeks earlier, Elvis was in Las Vegas, his last ever engagement. Many felt that he was not up to it having sprung an ankle early on and sitting down for most parts of many shows. From photos available he looked bloated and tired.

However, for the last tour of the year, Elvis was back! The tour ended with one of the very best shows EVER at Pittsburgh on New Year's Eve.

A film of this tour would have given the public a 41+ year Elvis in great form and in great spirits. Unfortunately, by the next tour, the performance level started to drop as did his physical state.

[Brian]

I don't think I would've filmed any additional tours

what we got was good enough imo and if they filmed him too much Elvis would be in danger of being overexposed.

looking back I would've filmed the 1971 tour for a documentary instead of the April 72 tour but hindsight is 20/20

[elvia7]

l had to choose just one, I would have filmed the 9 April 1972 in' Hampton Roads' - all!!!

[Dino78]

If you want me to chose, than I would say Tour: April 1972 (for ON TOUR)

Why: The name is the program, showing Elvis on tour. Aloha was a single event and TTWII was only in Vegas. Therefor I would pick April 1972.

[cibetty]

I'd like to see his Vegas concerts from 1969!!!!!!!!!

[Getlo]

December 1976???! When there's a wealth of stuff from 1970 or 1971? ;):'(

You can't go past the September and November tours of 1970, by all accounts as good as Vegas the previous August.

[dj_ethan]

If I l had to choose just one, I would have filmed August 1971 In Las Vegas

[KPM]

I would like to have seen the Sept 70 tour filmed.
I tried to go to the Sept,10 1970 show in St Louis.
They sold out in hours. But a friends father got her tickets so she and her parents went. She talked about the show for months-and she eventually went to all 3 St. Louis shows she said 9-10-70 was the best overall for excitement and Elvis really rocking. She gave the middle show in June of 73 the best vocal performance she heard. We both went to the 3-22-76 show-and for me it was a good show-for her it was the less of the 3 she had seen.

[ehollier]

HANDS DOWN -- Vegas 1969!!!! Ohhh, to be there when he returned on July 31, 1969.....

But as far as concert 'tours,' definitely would have wanted to film both fall tours in 1970!!!! It would have been absolutely awesome to catch Elvis on his first tour with all of his energy, humor and talent!!!!!

[Tommy]

1969 Vegas!

[SleepyJack]

Without a doubt...1969 in Las Vegas. It still surprises me that nobody ever filmed at least one of the shows....Did this happen because it came so soon after the `68 Comeback Special???(y)(y)

[Diane]

His opening concert in Vegas '69 for me as well.

Diane

[medleyofcostumes]

December 1976???! When there's a wealth of stuff from 1970 or 1971? ;):'(

You can't go past the September and November tours of 1970, by all accounts as good as Vegas the previous August.

Why not December 1976? I give reasons why I chose that tour:

1. Repertoire-wise TTWII and On Tour cover 99% of the songs that were done 1970 - 1972

2. After the Aloha (1973) we have a sharp drop with the CBS (1977).

3. The December 1976 shows were good (not as physical as 1970, obviously) but Elvis moves quite well, is in GGGRRREEEAAATTT voice, and most of all in high spirits. Why not give the fans, and most of all the general public a film / video / dvd of Elvis' later years that is good on all aspects.

4. The repertoire has many changes from TTWII, On Tour and the Aloha

5. Stage wear is very different from TTWII, ON Tour & Aloha

6. CBS, Elvis & Parker thought that June 1977 was a good idea. So my option is definetely better.

It's just an opinion!!

[beckelvis]

I HAD TO CHOOSE VEGAS 1969!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!IS REALLY FANTASTIC.
YouTube - Elvis Presley: Las Vegas 1969- concert Teaser Trailer *Fantasy*

[KPM]

HANDS DOWN -- Vegas 1969!!!! Ohhh, to be there when he returned on July 31, 1969.....

But as far as concert 'tours,' definitely would have wanted to film both fall tours in 1970!!!! It would have been absolutely awesome to catch Elvis on his first tour with all of his energy, humor and talent!!!!!
Yes if I could pick a single show-it would be that one.(y)

[nabelt24]

This is a very difficult choice for me... I would love to see both the tour from 70-72 and 1976! There's incredible stuff from both seasons and would be thrilling watch.

[elvispresleytheking]

In addition to what is there, I would go with November 1971, because of the new cape addition, the energy, and the reprise of "Bridge Over Troubled Water"

[Brian]

Why not December 1976? I give reasons why I chose that tour:

3. The December 1976 shows were good (not as physical as 1970, obviously) but Elvis moves quite well, is in GGGRRREEEAAATTT voice, and most of all in high spirits. Why not give the fans, and most of all the general public a film / video / dvd of Elvis' later years that is good on all aspects.




How do you know those shows were good?

[utmom2008]

I don't think I would've filmed any additional tours



Now why am I not surprised?:supriced::supriced::supriced::supriced:

[poormansgold]

If I Flim an Concert, It's From Houston 1970 They nice Shows , I flim All Shows That tour In Houston

tom

[LtCarman]

I liked the March 1975 tour, at least, from what I've heard on the soundboards. If anything, I want 1969!

[utmom2008]

If anything, I want 1969!

Now that would be awesome!(y)(y)

[medleyofcostumes]

How do you know those shows were good?

I know because I've seen audience recordings on video (8mm) from Pittsburgh and Birmingham, which are very close-up. In addition I also, heard recordings, some of them soundboards from the tour. Try to listen and see some of these and I think you will agree with me.

[Brian]

Now why am I not surprised?:supriced::supriced::supriced::supriced:


I explained why that would be a bad idea in my first post in this thread

less is more

[Brian]

I know because I've seen audience recordings on video (8mm) from Pittsburgh and Birmingham, which are very close-up. In addition I also, heard recordings, some of them soundboards from the tour. Try to listen and see some of these and I think you will agree with me.

don't listen to soundboards because of the bad quality most have.

[medleyofcostumes]

Soundboard recordings are renouned for their excellent sound!!!

[utmom2008]

I don't think I would've filmed any additional tours
what we got was good enough imo and if they filmed him too much Elvis would be in danger of being overexposed.



I explained why that would be a bad idea in my first post in this thread

less is more

Less is never more when it came to Elvis live and in concert. Most fans will agree that they never got enough of him. I don't think you can really give a fair assessment of the subject since you have told us before that you never enjoyed seeing Elvis live in concert. You said you would rather sit home and listen to his music on the stereo...I don't think that's how most of us felt.

Ladies....would you ever get tired of watching Elvis in concert???:supriced::supriced::supriced:

[utmom2008]

don't listen to soundboards because of the bad quality most have.


Soundboard recordings are renouned for their excellent sound!!!

Also.....any Elvis show is better than not having it at all, but I don't think Brian cared much about Elvis live so I'm sure that's why he felt that way.
But...IMO, I'm with you all the way!(y)(y)

[SeeSeeRider777]

Because I am a Manhattanite I will say:

The 1972 MSG shows. They were great on Album and I am sure seeing them would have been a million times better. :)


Then my next choice would be his first live performance in 1969.

[rickb]

July 75 and December 76

[Brian]

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Less is never more when it came to Elvis live and in concert. Most fans will agree that they never got enough of him. I don't think you can really give a fair assessment of the subject since you have told us before that you never enjoyed seeing Elvis live in concert. You said you would rather sit home and listen to his music on the stereo...I don't think that's how most of us felt.

Ladies....would you ever get tired of watching Elvis in concert???:supriced::supriced::supriced:

my thoughts on this have nothing to do with seeing Elvis in concert

Fans all over the internet say they wished Elvis had been filmed more so they'd have more performances to watch etc.

Lets say hypothetically that more of Elvis performances were filmed so we would have more than the 68 special, Aloha, Elvis on tour, TTWII and EIC.

I do think Elvis should've done another t.v. special in 74 or 75 but if he was filmed too much and on television to often he'd get overexposed and the general public would get tired of him. I wasn't really talking about die hard fans.

overexposure has hurt many careers in showbiz

I think the Colonel was right to keep Elvis from doing talk shows and interviews and also to keep the t.v. appearances and documentaries to a minimum as it made him seem different from other stars and added a certain mystery around him.

[ehollier]

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[/b]

Less is never more when it came to Elvis live and in concert. Most fans will agree that they never got enough of him. I don't think you can really give a fair assessment of the subject since you have told us before that you never enjoyed seeing Elvis live in concert. You said you would rather sit home and listen to his music on the stereo...I don't think that's how most of us felt.

Ladies....would you ever get tired of watching Elvis in concert???:supriced::supriced::supriced:

I didn't know that this was possible......tired of watching Elvis........I've got restrain myself to only one viewing of the sit-down shows per week.........:blush: :blush: :blush:

[Getlo]

Why not December 1976? I give reasons why I chose that tour:

Firstly, the question was what tour would you have filmed. Vegas December 1976 is not a tour; nor is 1969 for that matter.


1. Repertoire-wise TTWII and On Tour cover 99% of the songs that were done 1970 - 1972

But nowhere near as well, nor as coherently.


2. After the Aloha (1973) we have a sharp drop with the CBS (1977).

Your point? There are years of tours to choose from before dipping into anything from '76.


3. The December 1976 shows were good (not as physical as 1970, obviously) but Elvis moves quite well,

Have you seen any actual footage from this engagement? ;)


Why not give the fans, and most of all the general public a film / video / dvd of Elvis' later years that is good on all aspects.

The general public would have laughed at Elvis had they seen official film of him in December 1976. They would have compared him to his 1968-71 self, and not too kindly.


4. The repertoire has many changes from TTWII, On Tour and the Aloha

Again, so? It's a matter of quality of performance, not repertoire.


5. Stage wear is very different from TTWII, ON Tour & Aloha

Yes. In 1970, he was still dressed appropriately. But by December 1976, the jumpsuits had well passed their use-by date.


6. CBS, Elvis & Parker thought that June 1977 was a good idea. So my option is definetely better.

Yes, December 1976 is a good option - when compared to June 1977. But when compared to anything from 1970-71? There is no comparison!

[medleyofcostumes]

Firstly, the question was what tour would you have filmed. Vegas December 1976 is not a tour; nor is 1969 for that matter.



But nowhere near as well, nor as coherently.



Your point? There are years of tours to choose from before dipping into anything from '76.



Have you seen any actual footage from this engagement? ;)



The general public would have laughed at Elvis had they seen official film of him in December 1976. They would have compared him to his 1968-71 self, and not too kindly.



Again, so? It's a matter of quality of performance, not repertoire.



Yes. In 1970, he was still dressed appropriately. But by December 1976, the jumpsuits had well passed their use-by date.



Yes, December 1976 is a good option - when compared to June 1977. But when compared to anything from 1970-71? There is no comparison!


Ok - got your points (you are entitled to an opinion, like anybody else) BUT I don't think that you read my posts correctly:

1. I was not talking of Vegas 1976 but about the following tour:

27 December 1976 Wichita
28 December 1976 Dallas
29 December 1976 Birmingham
30 December 1976 Atlanta
31 Decemebr 1976 Pittsburgh


2. I saw 2 shows (29 & 31 December) on amateur video and the quality is very good (Elvis filmed from front row or stage right very close).

3. I heard recordings (some soundboard) of most shows from this tour and the performances are very good.

My last points on my choice
(I will not try to defend my choice again, I don't have to):

1. I suggest you watch the footage available (OK Elvis in 1970 - 1973 was very energetic but if you want to find flaws you still can find even from 1970-1973 - for me Elvis during the Aloha special was VERY static and did not convey that much energy during the show (compared to TTWII & On Tour); Elvis' face during ON TOUR was bloated, so what?) [Who chose 1969: did you see any footage, or from 1971? ]

2. Elvis' physical appearance during the December tour (NOT Vegas!!) was very good - similar to early 1974 (see photos & available footage)

3. I NEVER said in any post on this thread that this was the BEST ever tour of his career. I just said it was a good one.

4. Although I am very critical of some of the things Elvis did during his later years, I try to have an open eye and not see everything black. I don't take the stance of some authorities in the Elvis world and try to hide Elvis after the Aloha because he was embarrasing. There were instances where he was, but there were some good appearances as well.

5. My last point, and the most important point, at least for me - IT IS JUST MY OPINION, I think I am entitled to have one, or not?

[Brian]

1. for me Elvis during the Aloha special was VERY static and did not convey that much energy during the show (compared to TTWII & On Tour); Elvis' face during ON TOUR was bloated, so what?) [Who chose 1969: did you see any footage, or from 1971? ]



I mentioned a few months ago that Elvis looked pale and overweight during EOT and some women on this board did not like that

finally someone who sees what I see.

[boogie]

Vegas 1970

[elvispresleytheking]

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Less is never more when it came to Elvis live and in concert. Most fans will agree that they never got enough of him. I don't think you can really give a fair assessment of the subject since you have told us before that you never enjoyed seeing Elvis live in concert. You said you would rather sit home and listen to his music on the stereo...I don't think that's how most of us felt.

Ladies....would you ever get tired of watching Elvis in concert???:supriced::supriced::supriced:


If every show Elvis ever did was filmed, I would watch them all!!

[LtCarman]

I mentioned a few months ago that Elvis looked pale and overweight during EOT and some women on this board did not like that

finally someone who sees what I see.

Pale, yes. Overweight, no.

Yeah, he's definitely pushing 500 pounds here:

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo21/LtCarman/whtmatador_capespread.jpg

So let me guess, for Aloha from Hawaii, he was about 300, right?

[Brian]

Pale, yes. Overweight, no.

Yeah, he's definitely pushing 500 pounds here:

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo21/LtCarman/whtmatador_capespread.jpg

So let me guess, for Aloha from Hawaii, he was about 300, right?

he looked a little overweight to me

I was talking about the footage of him in the blue and red jumpsuits from Elvis on Tour.

everybody knows he put on some weight by the time of EOT and then lost the weight for Aloha

[LtCarman]

he looked a little overweight to me

I was talking about the footage of him in the blue and red jumpsuits from Elvis on Tour.

everybody knows he put on some weight by the time of EOT and then lost the weight for Aloha

Yeah, he's disgustingly overweight here for sure:
http://www.elviscrawler.com/modules/Concert_Database/showpic.php?pt=http://www.elviscrawler.com/pictures/s72041010.jpg

And here:
http://www.elviscrawler.com/modules/Concert_Database/showpic.php?pt=http://www.elviscrawler.com/pictures/s72040905.jpg

[epmoodyblue]

i would have filmed everything(y):hmm:well since we gotta pick something....my ultimate choice would be all the MARCH MEMPHIS 1974 CONCERTS:notworthyhttp://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/smiley-gen101.gif

[Brian]

Yeah, he's disgustingly overweight here for sure:
http://www.elviscrawler.com/modules/Concert_Database/showpic.php?pt=http://www.elviscrawler.com/pictures/s72041010.jpg

And here:
http://www.elviscrawler.com/modules/Concert_Database/showpic.php?pt=http://www.elviscrawler.com/pictures/s72040905.jpg

There are other shots your missing

[LtCarman]

There are other shots your missing

But they are from the same shows you are mentioning. No one can gain or lose pounds in a time period of an hour.

Yes, he is slightly bigger than in TTWII, but he is far from being overweight. This is overweight:

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_01/fatfamilyREX_468x390.jpg

I don't even think you are being serious any more.

[epmoodyblue]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/back-to-topic_ani.gif

[SeeSeeRider777]

Guys please dont flame me (gets flame suit on) but look at the footage of Elvis in the double porthole suit in the MSG show. He looked big there. A little pudgy. He didnt look that way in the Adonis or the Wheat Suit. :confused:

[epmoodyblue]

elvis A little pudgy. in 72:blink::doh: u people need a pair of glasseshttp://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/smiley-gen101.gif

[LtCarman]

Guys please dont flame me (gets flame suit on) but look at the footage of Elvis in the double porthole suit in the MSG show. He looked big there. A little pudgy. He didnt look that way in the Adonis or the Wheat Suit. :confused:

Yes, he does look pudgy, but he is not "overweight." Overweight refers to an unhealthy amount of excess fat and has a BMI of 25-30. Now, I don't know Elvis' exact weight and height (if anybody knows, spill up) at the time, but it is certainly not to the extent of being overweight. Mid-1973 to 1977, however, is a different story.

Ok everybody, back on topic before I get yelled at by one of the mods.

[SeeSeeRider777]

Made a thread about this topic. Lets take it there people.

[elvispresleytheking]

Made a thread about this topic. Lets take it there people.

True, one last thing: heavier than in TTWII, but not overweight, I mean, how many 37-year olds do you know that can do what he did in 72?

[Brian]

But they are from the same shows you are mentioning. No one can gain or lose pounds in a time period of an hour.

Yes, he is slightly bigger than in TTWII, but he is far from being overweight. This is overweight:

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_01/fatfamilyREX_468x390.jpg

I don't even think you are being serious any more.


I'm serious as a heart attack

I know what overweight is Carmen

you just don't get it

[medleyofcostumes]

Hello everybody!!

We're discussing what tours to film not to define what overweight is.:blink:

[Brian]

Hello everybody!!

We're discussing what tours to film not to define what overweight is.:blink:


Brian is on to something else now

[utmom2008]

I know what overweight is Carmen
you just don't get it

Is that your way of telling us that you don't look like Brad Pitt??:supriced::blink::blink::supriced::lol::lol:

[utmom2008]

Brian is on to something else now

Do you always refer to yourself as Brian?:blink:

I think they are trying to let you know that you have taken the thread off topic!:offtopic:

[Brian]

Is that your way of telling us that you don't look like Brad Pitt??:supriced::blink::blink::supriced::lol::lol:

no

I'm a thin person and was talking about Elvis weight not Brad Pitt

Brad Pitt got nothing on me. I think he's overrated

I don't get you

you sound like your trying to get this thread off topic.

[Brian]

Do you always refer to yourself as Brian?:blink:

I think they are trying to let you know that you have taken the thread off topic!:offtopic:

yes Brian does

Brian has said his opinion on this topic and has moved on to something else

for the record it was Lt. Carmen that got this thread off topic not Brian.

[LtCarman]

yes Brian does

Brian has said his opinion on this topic and has moved on to something else

for the record it was Lt. Carmen that got this thread off topic not Brian.

Trying to blame me now, eh? For your information, the thread officially spun out of control here:

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo21/LtCarman/topic.jpg

[Brian]

Trying to blame me now, eh? For your information, the thread officially spun out of control here:

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo21/LtCarman/topic.jpg


I can't read that

This thread was going nicely and staying pretty much on topic until you started posting pictures of overweight people.

[LtCarman]

I can't read that

This thread was going nicely and staying pretty much on topic until you started posting pictures of overweight people.

I'm not even going to bother with you any more. I have had it.

[Brian]

I'm not even going to bother with you any more.


somehow I doubt that

[utmom2008]

Brad Pitt got nothing on me. I think he's overrated



:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

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[elvispresleytheking]

Yet again, I hope the Phoenix (9/9/70) show is released... you can see from the opening credits of the original TTWII that at least the audience was filmed.

[Getlo]

Yet again, I hope the Phoenix (9/9/70) show is released... you can see from the opening credits of the original TTWII that at least the audience was filmed.

Mark my words ... only the audience was filmed in Phoenix.

[easyrider]

The first concerts of 1969