Elvis: democrat or republican?

[Lyndon]

What do you think Elvis voted back in the 70's? Democrat or republican?

[john carpenter]

I'm not sure but, if i had to guess democrat!:hmm:

[Lyndon]

I'm not sure but, if i had to guess democrat!:hmm:

I'm not confident either, but my guess is republican. He was a man of traditions and southern style. Or did he vote at all? Somebody knows?

[kathy parkinson]

I don't think he ever publicly said who he was for, i could be wrong

[New Jam]

As far as I'm aware, he was never a registered voter.

[epmoodyblue]

:hmm:who cares..what elvis preffered.. Democrat or republican..both parties sucka:doh:(n)http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/selenauno/smiley-gen101.gif

[KPM]

I thought we were asked to keep politics out of the threads?

[dj_ethan]

There are a lot of stars today joining politics. Are you campaigning or…?

Elvis: No sir I'm not. I'm not involved in that at all, I'm just an entertainer.

[epmoodyblue]

There are a lot of stars today joining politics. Are you campaigning or…?

Elvis: No sir I'm not. I'm not involved in that at all, I'm just an entertainer.(y)(y):king:

[javierTCB]

I thought we were asked to keep politics out of the threads?

Agree KPM (y)

[elvispresleytheking]

Look, I don't know, he liked Kennedy, but he also liked Nixon, as well as Carter... I think he was just appreciative of any man in the job.

[ForeverTheKing]

Look, I don't know, he liked Kennedy, but he also liked Nixon, as well as Carter... I think he was just appreciative of any man in the job.


I agree and I've always appreciated the fact he never said about his politics preferences...he just love music and he just wanted to entertain people (y)

[LtCarman]

There are a lot of stars today joining politics. Are you campaigning or…?

Elvis: No sir I'm not. I'm not involved in that at all, I'm just an entertainer.

Which is what I think stars today should do as well.

[Wendy56]

I thought we were asked to keep politics out of the threads?
Yep, I read that. :hmm:
I don't know much of Elvis politic's preferences or even USA politics... :blink:

[SunStudios54]

i say republican my mom says democrat

[Leroy]

I thought we were asked to keep politics out of the threads?

We're NOT discussing politics, just wondering what Elvis political direction was and we have a right to do so.... Otherwise we couldn't even mention Elvis' visit to president Nixon.

Lyndon asked a very good question here. I think Elvis was a contradicting case. Because of his background one would say he's a republican.... But both Kennedy and Carter were democrats. Nixon was republican. So my guess is that Elvis kinda walked the middle..... :hmm:

[renapap05]

I'm not sure,but I voted republican.:hmm:

[Tony Trout]

I don't think he ever publicly said who he was for, i could be wrong


Elvis, from all accounts, never strictly supported one particular party.

[Patricia Fonseca]

Only wait what not was communist or of preference leftist very red ;)

[KPM]

We're NOT discussing politics, just wondering what Elvis political direction was and we have a right to do so.... Otherwise we couldn't even mention Elvis' visit to president Nixon.

Lyndon asked a very good question here. I think Elvis was a contradicting case. Because of his background one would say he's a republican.... But both Kennedy and Carter were democrats. Nixon was republican. So my guess is that Elvis kinda walked the middle..... :hmm:
In my comment I was just pointing out what we had been asked to do in the recent past.
Unfortunately directly speaking of politics or indirectly doing so (such as wondering what Elvis's political direction was) ends up becoming a heated debate about personal politics-it just does. The last politically slanted thread was closed and we were asked to not start any more. Also it was pointed out that there are thousands of political forums on the internet-and that would be the proper place to discuss politics in any form.
As far as Elvis he said it best-those are my own personal views and I'd rather keep them to myself.

My grandpa said Politics and Religion are things which can cause problems even among the best friends.

[kathy parkinson]

And your Grandpa was correct

[LORRIELOVESELVIS]

Republican........:king:

[Diane]

We're NOT discussing politics, just wondering what Elvis political direction was and we have a right to do so.... Otherwise we couldn't even mention Elvis' visit to president Nixon.

Lyndon asked a very good question here. I think Elvis was a contradicting case. Because of his background one would say he's a republican.... But both Kennedy and Carter were democrats. Nixon was republican. So my guess is that Elvis kinda walked the middle..... :hmm:

I think walking the middle is the smartest and fairest way of all. Pick the man who you feel would do the best for the country and hang the rest.

Diane

[Brian]

Elvis never voted

he liked whoever was in office at the time

therefore he was neither a democrat or a republican

[easyrider]

I voted republican but i'm not sure

[Getlo]

The question is moot.

Elvis wasn't a political person, nor was he especially interested in politics.

Like most people though, he became more conservative as he got older.

His attitude to guns (let's be honest, he was a gun nut) and his attitude to the flag and his country indicates more conservative leanings as he aged.

[Sonny]

He must have had some interest in it, considering the meeting with Nixon (maybe more for his own benefit, true) and later meeting Carter.

Elvis maybe wasn't into politics as in voting this or that, but he for sure was interested in what happened to what he considered "his" country or city.

He also was interested in Martin Luther King and his believes.

[elvisfan92]

i voted republican

[tcbtigerman]

He was a liberal from what i've heard.Whoever was in office that did a good job.

[Getlo]

He must have had some interest in it, considering the meeting with Nixon (maybe more for his own benefit, true) and later meeting Carter.

No maybe about it. It was all about the badge. And the meeting with Carter was when Carter was governor. Like all his meetings with governors etc when he toured, it wasn't political per se. It was good PR and courtesy.

Yes, Elvis had some interest in politics, as most people do, but I wouldn't call him a political animal, nor would I say he had a great interest in it.


He also was interested in Martin Luther King and his believes.

King transcended politics.

[utmom2008]

In my comment I was just pointing out what we had been asked to do in the recent past.
Unfortunately directly speaking of politics or indirectly doing so (such as wondering what Elvis's political direction was) ends up becoming a heated debate about personal politics-it just does. The last politically slanted thread was closed and we were asked to not start any more. Also it was pointed out that there are thousands of political forums on the internet-and that would be the proper place to discuss politics in any form.


You are right Ken. That's EXACTLY what was said....in big, giant RED letters.(y)

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

This thread is political in the sense it is talking about politics but doesn't discuss political issues per se. So lets not fall out over the rights and wrongs and have a good clean discussion.

If it does get out of line :nono: then we will step in :cop:

[KPM]

This thread is political in the sense it is talking about politics but doesn't discuss political issues per se. So lets not fall out over the rights and wrongs and have a good clean discussion.

If it does get out of line :nono: then we will step in :cop:
Love the cop!!!!:)

[GIORGIA]

I think that Elvis was Democratic!

[GIORGIA]

I agree and I've always appreciated the fact he never said about his politics preferences...he just love music and he just wanted to entertain people (y) I agree with you ForeverTheKing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GIORGIA]

I agree and I've always appreciated the fact he never said about his politics preferences...he just love music and he just wanted to entertain people (y)


Look, I don't know, he liked Kennedy, but he also liked Nixon, as well as Carter... I think he was just appreciative of any man in the job.

I agree also with you ElvisPresleyTheKing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[elvislady]

I suppose you could be a bit of both you might agree with some democrat views but also you might agree with some republicans views, maybe thats why elvis never talked about his... here are a few i can nto say i am one or the other..





It depends on your personal thoughts. Take a look at these examples, and you decide which one you agree with more.

Abortion:
Democrats: It's the woman's right to choose and should therefore be legal
Republicans: It should not be legal and the government should restrict it as such.

Gun Control Laws:
Democrats: More gun control laws are needed to address a seemly growing problem with guns
Republicans: Oppose more gun control laws, citing that it's not what the Constitution calls for.

Discrimination:
Democrats: It's up to the government to step in and provide a “net” to victims of this practice
Republicans: Strong anti-discrimination laws are unnecessary. People have morals, as they say, and should be given the benefit of the doubt

Military:
Democrats: Prefers a decrease military spending. This party also likes to utilize NATO and the UN; never wanting to truly go in “alone” on world issues.
Republicans: They are known for increasing military spending. They also tend to want to stand alone when dealing with NATO and the United Nations.

Gay Rights:
Democrats: Usually for gays rights and believe it's apart of their civil rights to be with whom ever they choose.
Republicans: Tend to hold the view that marriage should be between people of the opposite sex, not the same.

Minimum Wage:
Democrats: Favor the workers and always seem to support minimum wage hikes.
Republicans: Don't normally favor minimum wage increases because they say is hurts businesses.

Death Penalty:
Democrats: Does not agree with taking someone's life as a means of discipline.
Republicans: The death penalty is necessary to curb violent crimes.

Prayer in schools:
Democrats: There should be a separation between church and state
Republicans: It's apart of our nation's culture to place prayer in school and keep it that way.

Flag Burning:
Democrats: Flag burning is acceptable because it falls under freedom of speech
Republicans: Flag burning is unacceptable and is not what the constitution intended.

Natural Environment:
Democrats: The environment need to be protect and it's the government's job to enforce laws against harming the environment
Republicans: Have some environment laws but don't make them too strong, could do more harm than good.

Taxes:
Democrats: The people with the most money should pay the most taxes, tax increases are mostly good.
Republicans: the entire economy can benefit if taxes remain relatively low, tax cuts are the way to go.

elvislady:)

[Awickedreigndrop]

Maybe he was neither and just voted (if he voted) for the best person that best fit the job. Even though my mom doesn't like it, that's the way I am. I don't think it's fair to vote according to a party. You should vote for the one who views you share.

[Unique Dog]

Despite his rebel image of the `50s Elvis was a southern conservative gentleman.

[Unique Dog]

The question is moot.

Elvis wasn't a political person, nor was he especially interested in politics.

Like most people though, he became more conservative as he got older.

His attitude to guns (let's be honest, he was a gun nut) and his attitude to the flag and his country indicates more conservative leanings as he aged.


I wouldn`t go so far as to call him a "gun nut." My family is from the south, Tennessee, and owning a gun or guns is almost like an unwritten law for a southern man. I think he always held conservative beliefs, not just toward the end.

[Awickedreigndrop]

I wouldn`t go so far as to call him a "gun nut." My family is from the south, Tennessee, and owning a gun or guns is almost like an unwritten law for a southern man. I think he always held conservative beliefs, not just toward the end.


I can agree with you on this. My dad was from Arkansas and he brought this unwritten law with him to Wisconsin. I can't tell you how many he owned.

[Getlo]

I wouldn`t go so far as to call him a "gun nut."

Any man who eats his meals with a handgun sitting by his side is a gun nut in my book.

And - death threats aside - going on stage with a gun in his belt and boots is somewhat nutty as well.

Any man who fires a gun into his bathroom, narrowly missing his girlfriend, is also a gun nut in my book.

[KPM]

I don't know if I would use the word "nut" but at the very least a few firearm safety courses which show the proper safe use of firearms would not have been a bad idea.
Jokes gone wrong with guns-kill each year.

[utmom2008]

I don't know if I would use the word "nut" but at the very least a few firearm safety courses which show the proper safe use of firearms would not have been a bad idea.


Gun safety rule #1......never shoot at your girlfriend when she is sitting on the toilet.;):lol:

[KPM]

Gun safety rule #1......never shoot at your girlfriend when she is sitting on the toilet.;):lol:
My rule is never be in the bathroom while your significant other is on the toilet-so guns just do not come into play!:)

[utmom2008]

My rule is never be in the bathroom while your significant other is on the toilet-so guns just do not come into play!:)

Smart move on your part Ken!:lol:(y)

[ehollier]

Gun safety rule #1......never shoot at your girlfriend when she is sitting on the toilet.;):lol:

Good rule of thumb!! I'll tell my next boyfriend!!!!!! :P :P :P

[Cryogenic]

Any man who eats his meals with a handgun sitting by his side is a gun nut in my book.

Well, if you want to be blunt ...

Elvis was a womaniser, a drug addict, a gun nut, a developmentally-disabled adult and an egomaniac given to violent outbursts and delusional and paranoic thinking.

Elvis was also a charismatic, generous, intelligent, quick-witted, humble, sincere, perceptive and engaging man.

Both sets of descriptors could make someone puke, for entirely different reasons.

But yoking the two contradictory personas together is his staggering talent.

We remember the man and his music because of how the artist and the human being has touched us.

He's been gone for more than thirty years, of an event of his own making. Yet he continues to delight, thrill and amaze us. We still talk about him. We still look at pictures. We still read and explore. We still listen to the music.

Through his talent, we feel we perceive his life story, and that he makes his strengths and his weaknesses palpable, as if he is both acknowledging his faults and struggling for something more -- as we all are, in our own lives.

Accordingly, and respectfully, it might be apropos to talk about him with more than just negative epithets, even if they happen to be true.

[Getlo]

Well, if you want to be blunt ...

Elvis was a womaniser, a drug addict, a gun nut, a developmentally-disabled adult and an egomaniac given to violent outbursts and delusional and paranoic thinking.

Yes, your point?

What would you rather I have said, firearm enthusiast?

[Jumpsuit Junkie]

Elvis was a huge ball of contradictions, mean & moody, joyful & happy, weird & wonderful, eccentric & bizarre and yes in some cases completely off his rocker :lol:

There is something for everyone in Elvis, even the gun toting loonies

http://www.elvispresleynews.com/images/GunCollection02.jpg

This picture for me has always begged the question "how is this funny?" and why would you point a gun at your friends head next to his wife on their wedding day? This is bizarre behaviour indeed.

[Lonniebealestreet]

Yikes!

It seems to me that if there existed a rule that you never do something that Elvis would pretty much be intent on breaking it, whether it was guns or...whatever.

Based on the location of his forefinger and Elvis' practice in general I'd say that thing was in fact loaded. Hope I'm wrong though.

All seriousness aside, it is a funny picture.

[Cryogenic]

Yes, your point?

What would you rather I have said, firearm enthusiast?

No.

Read my final paragraph AGAIN:


Accordingly, and respectfully, it might be apropos to talk about him with more than just negative epithets, even if they happen to be true.

Your extreme bluntness and role as forum scold is, quite frankly ... pathetic.


This picture for me has always begged the question "how is this funny?" and why would you point a gun at your friends head next to his wife on their wedding day? This is bizarre behaviour indeed.

Well, he was Elvis -- a person with a rather eccentric sense of humour.

We shouldn't really excoriate him in such circumstances (not that you're doing that personally, JJ).

I mean, a joke is a joke, isn't it?

[SleepyJack]

I don`t think that Elvis was too interested in politics either way..... but I do think that he was impressed with people who achieved positions of power and authority,ordinary people who became leaders. As to the rest of the "discussion"...I`d rather keep my own personal views on that to myself.;)

[Getlo]

Your extreme bluntness and role as forum scold is, quite frankly ... pathetic.

Live with it ... If I don't take the time to do it, who will? ;)

[utmom2008]

This picture for me has always begged the question "how is this funny?" and why would you point a gun at your friends head next to his wife on their wedding day? This is bizarre behaviour indeed.

Hard to argue with that point Matt. Yes, it was.........different!;);):lol:

[KPM]

Elvis was a huge ball of contradictions, mean & moody, joyful & happy, weird & wonderful, eccentric & bizarre and yes in some cases completely off his rocker :lol:

There is something for everyone in Elvis, even the gun toting loonies

http://www.elvispresleynews.com/images/GunCollection02.jpg

This picture for me has always begged the question "how is this funny?" and why would you point a gun at your friends head next to his wife on their wedding day? This is bizarre behaviour indeed.
As far as the photo-perhaps it was a tongue in cheek play on the "old shot gun wedding" idea. Just a thought.
Not to excuse such behavour-but how many have read any bios of Sinatras?
He had some eccentricities also-he was never into any medication problems or drugs-but he was a pretty good boozer and womanizer-horribly jealous of his woman and insecure. He would get drunk and pick fights-(once with John Wayne?) He could hold a grudge-forever-even with some of the best friends of his life(Peter Lawford!-maybe even Dean Martin who some say he never forgave for up and leaving their last concert tour together). Frank did have some underworld friends (althought he played it up much bigger than it was) and they did offer him help from time to time-did he take it?

My point is I think you can go through most celebrities lives and find some pretty bizarre activity, hangups, relationships, mental quirks.
Most "regular people" have the odd things-mental quirks-insecurities, but I think celebrity status magnifies them greatly-because they can afford to humor themselves.

[Getlo]

He could hold a grudge-forever

That's what grudges are for ... to be held forever! Otherwise, what's the point?

If someone crosses me, they are removed from my life without a second thought, with no possibility of patching things up. Ever. They get one chance to explain themselves though. Just one.

If someone tries to screw with me, then watch out. I get them back, just as badly as they got me.

Revenge is a dish best served cold, naturally. And the person to whom I exact my revenge will know exactly from whom it's coming and why.

If you think I'm joking, check with my former best friend of 32 years, who screwed me over at Christmas '07. He let me down as a friend, tried to screw me over, so I got him back. And he knew that a) he was wrong to have hurt me and b) that I was the one who got him back.

And, before you ask, yes ... I sleep very well at night! (y)

[Cryogenic]

That's what grudges are for ... to be held forever! Otherwise, what's the point?

If someone crosses me, they are removed from my life without a second thought, with no possibility of patching things up. Ever. They get one chance to explain themselves though. Just one.

If someone tries to screw with me, then watch out. I get them back, just as badly as they got me.

Revenge is a dish best served cold, naturally. And the person to whom I exact my revenge will know exactly from whom it's coming and why.

If you think I'm joking, check with my former best friend of 32 years, who screwed me over at Christmas '07. He let me down as a friend, tried to screw me over, so I got him back. And he knew that a) he was wrong to have hurt me and b) that I was the one who got him back.

And, before you ask, yes ... I sleep very well at night! (y)

And this has WHAT to do with Elvis Presley?

[KPM]

That's what grudges are for ... to be held forever! Otherwise, what's the point?

If someone crosses me, they are removed from my life without a second thought, with no possibility of patching things up. Ever. They get one chance to explain themselves though. Just one.

If someone tries to screw with me, then watch out. I get them back, just as badly as they got me.

Revenge is a dish best served cold, naturally. And the person to whom I exact my revenge will know exactly from whom it's coming and why.

If you think I'm joking, check with my former best friend of 32 years, who screwed me over at Christmas '07. He let me down as a friend, tried to screw me over, so I got him back. And he knew that a) he was wrong to have hurt me and b) that I was the one who got him back.

And, before you ask, yes ... I sleep very well at night! (y)
Well Getlo when someone you trust does a number on you-I can understand your feelings. I always look at the situations involved-that makes a difference.
But the grudges Sinatra held were not on that level of someone breaking a trust-IMO many were petty.
Lawfords is a prime example of what I would call an unreasonable grudge:
Most everyone knows of Sinatra's dissatisfaction with Lawford in the 60's because of his inability to sway the Kennedy administration to get the president to stay at his house (the "West Coast White House" as Frank called it) and only Sammy remained friends with him into the next decade (Dean Martin never cared for Peter and Joey Bishop never cared for the Rat Pack lifestyle which Peter embodied).

Ostracized from Sinatra, Lawford never starred in another major motion picture again. He was relegated to lesser roles and parts.
He was slated to co-star in "Robin and the 7 Hoods" but the role was given to Bing Crosby instead. Peter spent the remainder of his career guest-starring on Password, Laugh-in and other game shows as a relic of a bygone era.
Actor Brad Dexter saved Sinatra from drowning when he had swum too far out into huge waves-for a few years after Dexter was a close friend Of Franks.
But Dexter was also his own man and he told Frank what he thought when he felt Frank was in the wrong. Frank through spaghetti into his chefs face because it was not to his liking and Dexter told him-"That was unkind"
Then months later when Frank asked for Dexters opinion about marrying Mia Farrow 30 years his junior Dexter told him as honestly as he could-its a bad idea. Frank was furious. Everytime Dexter gave him honesty-Frank could not take it. Finally during the making of a film The Naked Runner that Dexter was helping produce Sinatra left for home. He did not return and demanded that Dexter stop the film. Sinatras lawyers got involved and Dexter went to see Sinatra man to man to no avail.
From this point on Brad Dexter the man who saved Franks life some years before was referred to as "Brad who?" by Sinatra.
He also claimed after this that Dexter had never saved his life. This was not Dexters fault IMO
Finally the problem with his lifelong friend Dean Martin. Martin did not want to tour-his son had been killed in a plane during National Guard Training. Martins health was failing and he had withdrawn. Sinatra convinced Sammy Davis that they need to help get Dean out and I commend him for the thought. But it took months of badgering Martin to get him to agree-by all accounts from day one his heart was not in it. He wanted to go home.
Finally Sinatra ranted to Deans aides that he was not singing well, he was not giving all he had on stage and that he needed to step it up. Martin left and went home. Sinatra held this against him till he died-and some say Sinatra regretted it in Deans situation. I do not see this also a reason for a huge grudge between these 2. Sinatra meant well, but Dean did not want to do it-and caved in to Frank. It was a mistake-a sad note for a life of friendship to close.

[KPM]

And this has WHAT to do with Elvis Presley?
I made a post in response to one by Matt, in which I mentioned other celebrities with similar odd quirks and personality flaws and I brought up Sinatra among others that is what Getlo was responding to.

[Lyndon]

That's what grudges are for ... to be held forever! Otherwise, what's the point?

If someone crosses me, they are removed from my life without a second thought, with no possibility of patching things up. Ever. They get one chance to explain themselves though. Just one.

If someone tries to screw with me, then watch out. I get them back, just as badly as they got me.

Revenge is a dish best served cold, naturally. And the person to whom I exact my revenge will know exactly from whom it's coming and why.

If you think I'm joking, check with my former best friend of 32 years, who screwed me over at Christmas '07. He let me down as a friend, tried to screw me over, so I got him back. And he knew that a) he was wrong to have hurt me and b) that I was the one who got him back.

And, before you ask, yes ... I sleep very well at night! (y)

Scary. Lets get back on topics...

[Getlo]

I made a post in response to one by Matt, in which I mentioned other celebrities with similar odd quirks and personality flaws and I brought up Sinatra among others that is what Getlo was responding to.

Thank you, KPM.

Any fool could have seen that.

[Lisarose]

There are a lot of stars today joining politics. Are you campaigning or…?

Elvis: No sir I'm not. I'm not involved in that at all, I'm just an entertainer.

First of all, Elvis, you are more than an entertainer to me!:)

I doubt that he did vote. If he did - especially in the early years, there would surely be someone there to steal the page where he would have had to signed in. And of all the memoribilia, I've never seen a copy of his Voter's Registration Card. Of course, he could have talked some of his pals to vote his way. . .:lmfao:

[Cryogenic]

Thank you, KPM.

Any fool could have seen that.

Spurious ad hominem -- and yet more proof of your troll-like conduct.

You took the opportunity to wax lyrical in a totally extraneous way about your personal life. Your comments had ZERO to do with Elvis.

Ironically, you defended a subjective observation made by KPM about Sinatra, by rambling on about your own attitudes, clearly indicating that you see no problem with that trait of Sinatra's ...... after having made barbed comments in every other post about Elvis.

Sinatra gets your empathy, Elvis gets your bile. You have made a clear symbolic distinction in this thread. To me, that seems at odds with WHO this message board is dedicated to and WHY we're all here.

[Getlo]

I doubt that he did vote.

He did not.


Spurious ad hominem.

Pretentious much? ;)

[Sonny]

No more of these personal remarks please.

Get back on topic or don't react at all.

[Unique Dog]

Any man who eats his meals with a handgun sitting by his side is a gun nut in my book.

And - death threats aside - going on stage with a gun in his belt and boots is somewhat nutty as well.

Any man who fires a gun into his bathroom, narrowly missing his girlfriend, is also a gun nut in my book.


LOL You haven`t spent much time in the south have you? ;)

[Getlo]

LOL You haven`t spent much time in the south have you? ;)

Plenty, actually.

And I saw enough gun nuts there to last me a lifetime.

[Unique Dog]

Plenty, actually.

And I saw enough gun nuts there to last me a lifetime.


If you have truly spent any time in the south and taken the time to interact with the people there, you would come to realize that their fondness for firearms isn`t "nutty" by any means.